IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 12 September 2015 (all times are UTC)
| 00:00 | <Neytiri> well looks like its time to rewrite x
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| 05:04 | <alkisg> Neytiri: why, do you know of any other graphics system that natively supports that?
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| 05:05 | <maldridge> alkisg: wayland can iirc
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| 05:06 | <alkisg> Moving windows between different user sessions is about remote viewing part of a session, not about a graphics system
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| 05:06 | maldridge: I think wayland doesn't care at all about networking
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| 05:06 | X is network transparent, I think wayland decided from the beginning that this was not one of their goals
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| 05:07 | <Neytiri> if all the applications are running on the server, it should be easy to have it show up on another screen session
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| 05:07 | <alkisg> Neytiri: on another user session?
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| 05:08 | <Neytiri> yes, thats the end goal
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| 05:08 | <alkisg> It's not easy to do that as part of a graphics system
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| 05:08 | The client state is owned by the user
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| 05:08 | You can't easily transfer that to another user, you need to design the system to be able to do that from the start
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| 05:09 | And, losing a lot of performance while doing so
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| 05:09 | Since that's a corner case, it's usually much easier to do the opposite
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| 05:09 | To have an application that reads the screen contents and then transfer them elsewhere
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| 05:09 | (vnc, rdp like)
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| 05:10 | That part would be easy, especially with compositing managers etc
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| 05:10 | VNC, vbox etc do support showing only specific windows
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| 05:10 | Maybe even x2go, not sure
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| 05:11 | <Neytiri> i dont just wnat to show the window, i wnat to be able to hand it off to that user
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| 05:11 | <alkisg> Do you know of any software in any OS that does that?
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| 05:12 | <Neytiri> apart from goverment setup's no, thats why i was asking here
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| 05:12 | <alkisg> There's a reason why they don't do that :) See above...
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| 05:12 | What you can do is grab the window contents and show them wherever you like
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| 05:13 | The window can be hidden in the first place, so to you it would look like you "hand it over"
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| 05:13 | But I know of no graphics systems that were designed for that. Only screen capturing applications that can do that.
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| 05:15 | See a first hit on google that talks about such software: http://superuser.com/questions/393747/how-can-i-share-a-single-application-window-with-tightvnc
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| 05:15 | <maldridge> I can *sort of* do that in plan 9, but there's a lot of other things that don't work there
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| 05:54 | <alkisg> Another thing to consider is that when you e.g. "pass a window" to another user, that user then has access to a process with your uid. That's a major security issue, imagine e.g. giving him access to an office application and him using it to file open->locate terminal shortcut->right click run... and then him installing keyloggers, erasing your files etc
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| 05:54 | * alkisg waves | |
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| 12:15 | <vmlintu> vsuojanen: just read your mail about localboot / 3-partition layout.. Do you have a specific usecase for it?
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