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Channel log from 31 January 2020 (all times are UTC)
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| 20:30 | <mnevans> I got NAT working! I know, it is easy now.
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| 20:30 | I'm having trouble getting clients to read display information.
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| 20:31 | I've modified /etc/ltsp.conf, under [clients], I have INCLUDE=[crt_monitor].
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| 20:31 | Under [crt_monitor] I have:
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| 20:32 | X_MODES='"1920x1080" "1280x960" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"'
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| 20:36 | then ltsp image / , ltsp ipxe , ltsp initrd . Then reboot client. Still display goes to 720 x 480 refresh 0.0 Hz.
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| 20:36 | What am I doing wrong? Thank you...
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| 20:39 | service ltsp restart after making the ltsp.conf changes and reboot client?
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| 20:41 | <mnevans> One of my clients does auto pickup the right display. It is one make of client, and the ones not pickping up decent display specs are of another make.
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| 21:25 | For one client, with a display that should be 1280x960, I get 640x480. That is even when I have
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| 21:25 | X_MODES='"1280x960"
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| 21:26 | only.
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| 21:34 | <mnevans> And for another client with a display that should be 1920x1080, I also get 640x480.
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| 21:35 | The client that is getting the display at high resolution is at 1920x1080.
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| 21:51 | <alkisg> It's /etc/ltsp/ltsp.conf
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| 21:51 | You can create a custom xorg.conf and test it
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| 21:51 | You don't need ltsp image, just ltsp initrd
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| 21:52 | After updating ltsp.conf, you just run ltsp initrd and you reboot the clients, nothing more
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| 21:52 | It sounds like a xorg problem though, if one works and another doesn't; so just try to manually make an appropriate xorg.conf
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| 22:04 | <mnevans> Alkis - thanks. I hadn't looked at xorg.conf. Let me try that.
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| 22:14 | <alkisg> You can get a shell with epoptes, modify xorg.conf with nano, and run systemctl restart lightdm until you get it right
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| 22:15 | No need to reboot the client at all
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| 22:16 | <mnevans> I think the first problem is: I haven't got an xorg.conf. I read the man pages for xorg.conf, though...
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| 22:16 | :)
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| 22:16 | so could make such a file using Xorg :2 -configure.
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| 22:17 | Would I do that in the epoptes shell? Or on the server?
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| 22:17 | <alkisg> mnevans, if you use X_MODE in ltsp.conf and you run ltsp initrd and you don't have a xorg.conf... then you really did something wrong :)
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| 22:18 | *X_MODES
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| 22:18 | As X_MODES creates an /etc/X11/xorg.conf
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| 22:18 | In the epoptes shell; you want a xorg.conf on the client not the server
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| 22:18 | <mnevans> Hmm. Well, I have the following in /etc/ltsp/ltsp.conf:
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| 22:19 | <alkisg> Use termbin/pastebin if you want
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| 22:19 | As you may have syntax errors or things in wrong section
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| 22:20 | <mnevans> hmm, ok...
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| 22:20 | https://pastebin.com/aCf7M6xy
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| 22:21 | when I run service ltsp restart, no errors to the terminal window.
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| 22:21 | <alkisg> You only need ltsp restart for nat
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| 22:21 | <mnevans> maybe things in wrong section...
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| 22:21 | <alkisg> It won't do anything for any other parameters
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| 22:22 | OK and did you use LIKE=crt_monitor anywhere?
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| 22:22 | Because that section won't do anything if you don't put it under some mac address etc
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| 22:22 | That's why I asked for all of ltsp.conf
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| 22:22 | <alkisg> This part that you pasted does nothing at all
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| 22:22 | <mnevans> Yes, above that, first noncommented line under [clients], I have INCLUDE=crt_monitor
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| 22:23 | <alkisg> Do you want me to see over vnc?
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| 22:23 | It'll take hours with little information...
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| 22:23 | !vnc-edide
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| 22:23 | <ltspbot> vnc-edide: To share your screen with me, open Epoptes → Help menu → Remote support → Host: srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr, and click the Connect button
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| 22:24 | <mnevans> You are very kind.
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| 22:24 | <alkisg> np; it's usually faster that way :)
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| 22:25 | <mnevans> I do keep notes - but then system is stable and things evolve... like ltsp5 --> 19
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| 22:27 | <alkisg> mnevans, save, and run ltsp initrd
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| 22:27 | then reboot client
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| 22:27 | Nah nah I really don't want to learn emacs
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| 22:27 | I already have to remember 5 vi shortcuts :P
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| 22:29 | mnevans, and what's the goal?
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| 22:29 | Which client to get which resolution?
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| 22:32 | mnevans, you don't want a xorg.conf
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| 22:32 | You want a newer kernel and possibly xorg
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| 22:33 | Now it's not using the amdgpu driver at all
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| 22:33 | So even if you did the resolution, it would be slow with no graphics acceleration
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| 22:33 | <mnevans> I'm at Debian 10.2. I could install that package you just found. I thought I had installed X already...
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| 22:33 | <alkisg> For example, I saw that in Ubuntu, some AMD clients needed kernel 5.3
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| 22:34 | You have kernel 4.19
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| 22:34 | Do not try with xorg.conf
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| 22:34 | Ask in #debian or google whichkernel/xorg you need, and how to install it
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| 22:34 | <mnevans> Hmm. Was using Xorg with Debian Wheezy
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| 22:34 | <alkisg> On that client?
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| 22:34 | <mnevans> Yes
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| 22:34 | <alkisg> OK then it's the opposite
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| 22:34 | The problem is that you don't have a driver
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| 22:34 | You need an older kernel/xorg then
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| 22:35 | [Radeon HD 6310
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| 22:35 | Debian also has some firmware paackages
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| 22:35 | <mnevans> yes
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| 22:35 | I bet that's it
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| 22:35 | <alkisg> Which may be needed for the driver to work
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| 22:35 | So, don't bother with xorg or ltsp
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| 22:35 | <mnevans> This was a bare metal reinstall
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| 22:35 | <alkisg> Ask how to properly use that card on debian
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| 22:35 | <mnevans> Hmm ok.
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| 22:36 | That would explain why a newer client (intel NUC box, ca 2018) works but these older clients do not.
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| 22:37 | <alkisg> https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo
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| 22:37 | apt-get install firmware-linux-nonfree libgl1-mesa-dri xserver-xorg-video-ati
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| 22:38 | Then ltsp image /, to send it to the clients
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| 22:39 | <mnevans> not the xserver-xorg-video-radeon package you found before?
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| 22:39 | <alkisg> But you already have that one
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| 22:39 | amdgpu, not radeon
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| 22:39 | I didn't search for radeon
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| 22:39 | But that's for newer cards
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| 22:39 | <mnevans> Ah - reading the page you pointed out: ATI/HOWto
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| 22:40 | <alkisg> Anyway, I'm off; if this doesn't work ask in #debian
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| 22:43 | <mnevans> Thanks - all that software is installed already. Except firmware-linux-nonfree doesn't seem to exist in buster?
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| 22:43 | I might need to add a repository
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| 22:44 | <alkisg> Or read the wiki page :) 2. Add "contrib" and "non-free" components to /etc/apt/sources.list, for example: # Debian 10 "Buster"
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| 22:44 | Search for that phrase, then continue reading
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| 22:45 | * alkisg thinks mnevans doesn't really like reading wikis and man pages :D | |
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| 22:47 | <mnevans> You are making fun of me. OK, I deserve it, but it's hard for this poor scientist to keep up with you all!
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| 22:49 | <alkisg> mnevans, it's just humor, I hope you dind't get offended or anything. I'm a teacher supporting 10+ teachers per day, 9 of them don't read man pages and wikies, so we're constantly teasing each other, don't think that I was being serious...
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| 22:49 | Anyway I"m off for real now, good night all
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| 22:50 | <mnevans> Not at all! I can take a joke. Thanks again for your help!
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| 22:50 | <alkisg> ;)
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