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Channel log from 20 October 2010 (all times are UTC)
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| 04:40 | <antilyman> hi all
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| 04:41 | has anyone tryed to deploy ltsp from ubuntu 10.04 ?
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| 05:01 | <muppis> antilyman, in use. Why so?
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| 05:02 | <antilyman> @muppis when booting the client hangs after "........done"
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| 05:02 | seems like it's a kernel panic as numlock stops working
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| 05:03 | but the client can be booted with lubuntu live cd
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| 05:04 | <muppis> antilyman, remove quiet splash from /var/lib/tftboot/ltsp/<arch>/pxelinux.cfg/default so you can see reason for hang.
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| 05:06 | <antilyman> muppis, I did it already but still don't have message, it still hangs after ".......................................done"
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| 05:07 | do I have to rebuild image after changing this file ?
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| 05:08 | <muppis> No.
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| 05:11 | <antilyman> it seems like the client use the "nbi.img" then decompressing it, then hangs
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| 05:13 | <muppis> Ok, try this: Comment out if -statement from /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf, except line filename " .../pxelinux.0";
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| 05:13 | <antilyman> ok, gonne try
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| 05:19 | <antilyman> it boots now, thank you, I thought this if statement was important (because it depends on clients card)
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| 05:20 | I still have problems with drm, nouveau but I'll try to fix it
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| 05:20 | (but if you have any advice to help me start searching...)
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| 05:22 | <muppis> I'm sorry, but I have no idea.
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| 05:25 | <antilyman> no problem, it boots now :) I was stuck at this boot problem, now that it's more X problem, i think I find out :) thanx again
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| 05:27 | <muppis> No problem. :)
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| 06:19 | <Hyperbyte> Hi muppis. :-) On monday you were helping me with a problem regarding ownership of the /home/<user>/ directory on thin clients... would you mind helping me a little bit more? ;-)
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| 06:19 | <muppis> Sure.
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| 06:19 | <Hyperbyte> This is the output of the 'mount' command on the ltsp client
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| 06:19 | http://secondary.recreatie-zorg.nl/jan/ltsp-mount-client.txt
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| 06:20 | The /home/jan/ directory shows with ownership nobody.nobody, but the 'jan' user -is- able to write to it without problems
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| 06:21 | Only some programs don't run because they complain about the /home/jan/ directory not owned by jan
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| 06:22 | <Hyperbyte> Aaaand... the /home/ on the terminal server is mounted with NFSv4 from a file server. I'm also running NIS across the servers, it's all working fine so it seems to me.
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| 06:22 | But somehow the LTSP terminal's /home/jan/ dir is nobody.nobody.
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| 06:23 | <muppis> Does server show correct owner and group?
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| 06:27 | <Hyperbyte> Yessir.
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| 06:28 | Wait
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| 06:28 | It did.
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| 06:28 | It doesn't anymore.
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| 06:28 | Oh that's embarassing.
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| 06:28 | I checked it when I set up NFS and since then I didn't look at it again assuming it was still ok
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| 06:29 | Ok so then it's an NFS problem.
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| 06:30 | <muppis> If it shows something big number for both, you need idmapd running. Enable it from /etc/default/nfs-common on both.
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| 06:32 | <Hyperbyte> It's running on both
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| 06:32 | Last time I had this it was an NFS protocol mismatch... server with NFSv3 and client with NFSv4
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| 06:32 | Now both server and client are running the same NFS version though
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| 06:35 | <muppis> What distro you are using?
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| 06:36 | <Hyperbyte> Fedora 13, x86_64
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| 06:37 | <muppis> Sorry, no much experience from that, but try look out place where sshfs parameters are set.
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| 06:38 | <Hyperbyte> Well, you know... since it's not an #ltsp problem I should probably head over to #fedora. :-)
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| 06:38 | <Hyperbyte> Lots of thanks though.
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| 06:38 | <alkisg> sshfs over nfs4? cool :D though it makes a lot of roundtrips, why not use just nfs4?
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| 06:39 | <Hyperbyte> alkisg, I was actually wondering about that
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| 06:39 | alkisg, I thought it might make more sense to mount the entire /home/ directory on the thin clients over NFS
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| 06:39 | <alkisg> You'd need to patch a couple of lines in some initscripts, but it should work otherwise..
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| 06:39 | <Hyperbyte> Which scripts? :-)
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| 06:39 | <alkisg> (don't know about fedora though, but for ubuntu it's exactly 2 lines that need to be changed)
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| 06:40 | <Hyperbyte> Because that's the part where I got stuck with this idea.
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| 06:40 | <alkisg> Hmmm I can't look into the source code right now, if you're around in a couple of hours..
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| 06:40 | <Hyperbyte> Sure, I'll stick around. :-)
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| 06:40 | Or if you could give me a hint on what I can search for, I could just do a grep on /etc/
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| 06:41 | <alkisg> on chroot, /usr/share/ltsp, grep for NFS_HOME
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| 06:41 | *or /usr/share/initramfs-tools or whatever else (dracut?) fedora uses
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| 06:41 | (again in the chroot)
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| 06:43 | ...and if it doesn't have that part of the ltsp code, you could search for sshfs, i.e. the line where it mounts the user dir
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| 06:43 | bbl
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| 06:43 | <Hyperbyte> Thanks!
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| 06:45 | Seems to be in /usr/share/ldm/rc.d/X01-localapps on the chroot. :-)
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| 06:46 | <pmatulis> alkisg: so i upgraded my rig to lucid and i'm able to launch a remote app manually but when i plug in '/usr/bin/remoteapps evince' in the (localapp) FF dialog it complains (does not exist essentially)
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| 06:46 | <alkisg> You need that part commented out, and nfs mounted before that in some additional script
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| 06:46 | Again bbl :D
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| 07:09 | <Hyperbyte> alkisg, not really working... I'm probably missing something crucial on the thin client that causes it to mount with 4294967294 permissions... I think I did everything right, started all the rpc stuff... anyway, just gonna stick with sshfs for now. :)
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| 07:09 | <Hyperbyte> If have any more tips that would be nice, I'm gonna try again some other time probably.
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| 07:10 | <Uzzi> hi, mt client on lenny ltsp server tell me pxe-T01: File not found
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| 07:14 | <Hyperbyte> Oh, hi Da-Geek!
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| 07:15 | <Da-Geek> Hi Hyperbyte
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| 07:15 | <Hyperbyte> Read your message on Bugzilla on you maintaining LTSP for Fedora. :)
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| 07:15 | How's that going?
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| 07:15 | <Uzzi> http://pastebin.com/uvemme3w this is my config
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| 07:17 | what is the problem?
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| 07:18 | <Appiah> ile not found means wrong path
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| 07:18 | file*
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| 07:18 | <muppis> Uzzi, path in dhcpd.conf is pointing wrong place, refer to /var/lib/tftboot/
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| 07:20 | <Uzzi> muppis: in /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf option root-path "/var/lib/tftboot/" ?
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| 07:21 | <muppis> Uzzi, no, filename "/ltsp/pxelinux.0"; should be filename "/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0";
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| 07:23 | <Uzzi> option root-path "/opt/ltsp/i386"; filename "/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0"; filename "/ltsp/i386/nbi.img"; invoke-rc.d dhcp3-server restart ---> the same error muppis
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| 07:28 | <mgariepy> good morning everybody
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| 07:30 | <pmatulis> mgariepy: morning. did you say the other day that you have FF as localapp using remoteapps ok?
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| 07:31 | <mgariepy> i managed to make it work correctly with chromium
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| 07:32 | <pmatulis> mgariepy: ok
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| 07:32 | <mgariepy> firefox do a lot of weirdness
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| 07:32 | i need to tests with ff4 tho
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| 07:32 | <vvinet> good morning mgariepy
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| 07:32 | <mgariepy> and i'm not sure i'll have time to do so before BTS-2010
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| 07:32 | <muppis> Uzzi, tried to comment out whole if -statement except pxelinux.0 -line?
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| 07:34 | <Uzzi> muppis: in dhcpd.conf?
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| 07:34 | <muppis> Uzzi, yes.
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| 07:37 | <Uzzi> muppis: dhcp doesn't assign ip
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| 07:39 | <muppis> Uzzi, does dhcpd.conf look like this: http://pastebin.com/MW2ymN3y
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| 07:40 | <Uzzi> muppis: the same error pxe-T01: File not found
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| 07:43 | <muppis> Uzzi, tricky.
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| 07:45 | Uzzi, try locally access to tftp, can you obtain files from it.
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| 07:45 | <Uzzi> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr now works!!!!! next-server was wrong
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| 07:45 | now the error is about nfs server
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| 07:45 | <muppis> :D
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| 07:46 | <Uzzi> rootserver and rootpath nfsmount: need a path
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| 07:50 | <Hyperbyte> muppis, just as a conclusion... I fixed the nobody.nobody nfs4 problem... idmapd domains didn't match.
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| 07:50 | :)
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| 07:51 | <muppis> Hyperbyte, good you got it working. :)
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| 08:01 | <alkisg> pmatulis: there was a bug in the remoteapps launcher and it didn't process parameters correctly, so either manually update the related ltsp script or make a two-lines script named "launch-evince" that contains "ltsp-remoteapps evince" within it.
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| 08:02 | <Uzzi> muppis: now works fine but very low!
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| 08:04 | <pmatulis> alkisg: thanks. is there a bug on that? what change is needed to ltsp-remoteapps?
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| 08:05 | <alkisg> I don't know if there was a bug, but it was fixed, you can search the launchpad tree for the exact lines changed
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| 08:05 | I don't use localapps/remoteapps so I didn't note down which commit it was in...
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| 08:05 | <muppis> Uzzi, what you mean with low?
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| 08:06 | <Uzzi> internet navigation not farst, but now i'll testing all
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| 08:08 | <Hyperbyte> Hrm... have another weird issue.
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| 08:09 | In a local terminal, when I run pactl (to adjust the microphone volume of the thin client), it gives me an error "Operation not allowed"
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| 08:09 | When making a symlink from my home dir to a file in the temp dir
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| 08:09 | When I manually make the symlink it's not a problem though
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| 08:10 | http://secondary.recreatie-zorg.nl/jan/ltsp-symlinks.txt
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| 08:11 | <muppis> pactl runs as different uid/gid?
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| 08:12 | Hyperbyte, try running with strace
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| 08:12 | <Hyperbyte> Those are from the exact same terminal/session
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| 08:12 | <Uzzi> muppis: authenticated mount request from 172.16.1.165:892 for /opt/ltsp/i386 (/opt/ltsp/i386) but my range is range 172.16.1.132 172.16.1.139; !!!!!!
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| 08:12 | <Hyperbyte> I just added a white line for readability. =)
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| 08:13 | <muppis> Uzzi, are you sure there is no other dhcpd nor fixed IP's in network?
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| 08:14 | <Uzzi> My network administrator tell me NO, but there is atest that i can do it?
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| 08:15 | <muppis> With wireshark atleast.
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| 08:16 | But now I need to go. Bye for now.
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| 08:17 | <Hyperbyte> muppis, the strace output is huge... working through it now
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| 08:20 | http://secondary.recreatie-zorg.nl/jan/ltsp-strace-pactl.txt
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| 08:21 | The error has also changed slightly. :S It now says 'invalid argument' while trying to stat /home/jan/.pulse/....somerandomfile
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| 08:22 | <alkisg> !xauthority
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| 08:22 | <ltspbot`> alkisg: "xauthority" :: to access the client X session from a local root shell, try: eval $(tr '\0' '\n' < /proc/$(pidof -s ldm gdm-simple-greeter gnome-session | cut -d' ' -f1)/environ | egrep '^DISPLAY=|^XAUTHORITY=') && export DISPLAY XAUTHORITY
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| 08:48 | <mgariepy> Hello, for BTS 2010 if someone need a ride from Bangor to SouthWest Harbor on thursday, just ping me.
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| 08:49 | I will be leaving sherbrooke on Thursday morning and it's about a 5 hour ride from here.
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| 09:21 | <pmatulis> alkisg: tried your shell script idea for evince. it opens but the document does not load. do i need an argument? (using just '/usr/local/bin/ltsp-remoteapps evince')
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| 09:21 | <alkisg> Yes
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| 09:21 | ltsp-remoteapps evince $1
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| 09:21 | <pmatulis> ah right
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| 09:21 | <alkisg> "$1" is better actually
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| 09:25 | <pmatulis> alkisg: just slightly better: "Unable to open document - Error opening file: No such file or directory"
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| 09:26 | <alkisg> Can that file be accessed from the localapp?
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| 09:26 | A sorry no, the server app?
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| 09:26 | ...so ignore that... :)
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| 09:27 | You can temporarily replace /usr/bin/evince on the server with a shell script that does: echo "$@" >> /tmp/localapps.output
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| 09:27 | So you'll be able to see exactly what is passed to evince
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| 09:28 | <Uzzi> I'm mounting local usb hd but my user cannot umount its, why?
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| 09:29 | <alkisg> Uzzi: ltspfsd doesn't support unmounting, it flushes data every 2 seconds so you just wait 2 secs and then directly unplug any sticks/HDs
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| 09:31 | <pmatulis> well i did a find on the client and the file is stored in /tmp (locally) so i don't see how the server app can access it
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| 09:31 | <Uzzi> alkisg: but if i write 2gb How long i have to wait?
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| 09:31 | <alkisg> 2 secs after it finishes. Does your UI display the progress?
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| 09:32 | <Uzzi> ok It's doungerous for usb fs?
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| 09:32 | <alkisg> From what I've heard, nope. But I've never used ltspfs.
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| 09:33 | <Uzzi> ok thanks alkisg
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| 09:33 | <alkisg> np
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| 09:34 | <pmatulis> alkisg: any idea on my last comment?
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| 09:38 | <mgariepy> pmatulis, maybe you can write a wrapper that copies the file to $USER home directory then open this file ?
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| 09:39 | <pmatulis> mgariepy: possibly. but i'm giving up for now
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| 09:40 | <mgariepy> you were trying to make firefox launch stuff ?
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| 09:41 | <pmatulis> mgariepy: i did get it launch stuff, just that the target document could not be found/loaded
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| 09:42 | <mgariepy> you made modification to /etc/mailcap or did you do something else?
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| 09:43 | <pmatulis> mgariepy: wrote a one-line script that invokes 'ltsp-remoteapps evince $1'
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| 09:44 | <mgariepy> pmatulis, and the link with firefox is made by ?
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| 09:45 | <pmatulis> mgariepy: i suppose i could put a line before that one that copies the file (known to be stored in local /tmp) to ~user, and then replace $1 with that path
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| 09:46 | <pmatulis> mgariepy: would be easier if i could tell FF to put the doc there directly
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| 09:46 | mgariepy: that should be doable
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| 09:48 | <mgariepy> yeah probably, taking a quick look into about:config and i didn't see any config for that.
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| 09:51 | <mgariepy> pmatulis, try : Create a new string named browser.cache.disk.parent_directory , set the value to something else.
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| 09:52 | in about:config of firefox
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| 09:53 | <pmatulis> mgariepy: yeah
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| 09:53 | <Hyperbyte> How can I change/translate the LTSP login screen language?
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| 09:54 | <mgariepy> lts.conf LANG
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| 09:54 | <Hyperbyte> Doesn't work. :(
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| 09:54 | I put LANG=nl_NL
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| 09:55 | <mgariepy> fr_CA.UTF-8
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| 09:55 | this is working
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| 09:55 | nl_NL.UTF-8 perhaps
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| 09:56 | if the translation has been made.
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| 09:58 | <Hyperbyte> nl_NL.UTF-8 doesn't work, neither does fr_CA.UTF-8
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| 10:01 | <alkisg> Hyperbyte: ls /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/locale*/*/LC_MESSAGES/ldm.mo
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| 10:01 | ==list of translations
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| 10:04 | <Hyperbyte> Hrm
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| 10:04 | Well, there's no Dutch
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| 10:04 | But still I can't seem to change the language
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| 10:05 | I just tried fi_FI, before fr_CA
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| 10:05 | I can make a Dutch translation if that's of interest to anyone by the way.
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| 10:07 | <alkisg> Sure, why not, send it to the ltsp-developers list
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| 10:07 | <Hyperbyte> Okay, I will.
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| 10:08 | Any suggestions on how to further debug this language selection problem?
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| 10:10 | <alkisg> Hyperbyte: no idea about fedora, but try cat /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/default/locale
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| 10:11 | <Hyperbyte> Fedora doesn't use /etc/default that much
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| 10:11 | <mgariepy> pmatulis, the firefox configuration is working for you ?
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| 10:11 | <Hyperbyte> I confired the terminal to use Dutch locale though, the terminals on the thin client actually already use Dutch locale
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| 10:11 | *configured
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| 10:12 | Hm.... maybe the Dutch locale setting I configured in Fedora is overwriting the lts.conf one
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| 10:12 | Causing it to fall back to English.
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| 10:14 | Are the locale '.mo' files editable by me somehow?
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| 10:15 | <alkisg> You can convert .mo to .po and edit it with poedit, or you can just get the upstream .po files from the source code
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| 10:15 | <Hyperbyte> Okay, cool. :)
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| 10:16 | I'll have a look at it tomorrow.
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| 10:16 | Thanks for all, good day. :)
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| 10:31 | <[GuS]> Guys, i've installed LTSP 5 (5.2.4-r1) on Gentoo. After many fixes that i've applied, now i am at LDM login screen. When i login, the ldm restarts. This is the ldm.log: http://pastebin.com/C5V0df9t
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| 10:31 | any Tip?
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| 10:32 | As it seems the login success but i dont know why the ldm restarts...
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| 10:32 | <komunista> [GuS]: ssh knowhosts?
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| 10:33 | <[GuS]> is added, cause otherwhise you will notice in that log komunista
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| 10:33 | as i said, the login is correct
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| 10:35 | in the server log I have: http://pastebin.com/ggvp6Dks
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| 10:37 | <robb994> good afternoon all....
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| 10:37 | got a q....
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| 10:37 | can you set up a multi lingual enviribnment with ltsp5.2?
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| 10:37 | environment*
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| 10:37 | in a way that someone can choose prefered language of the desktop
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| 10:38 | <robb994> i'd like a french and a dutch desktop because the school the ltsp server is going to be used is bi-lingual
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| 10:39 | <[GuS]> Also tried connecting with sftp from tty console on the terminal and connects well to the server...
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| 10:40 | <Gadi> robb994: I believe (American speaking here) that if you install the language support on the server, you should be able to choose the desktop language from the LDM login screen
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| 10:41 | robb994: the only thing is the username/password will be in just one language at the login
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| 10:41 | <robb994> that's not a problem I think... :)
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| 10:42 | I'l have to check what language support I have installed currently...
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| 10:59 | <jammcq> hello friends
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| 11:03 | <ogra_ac> hey jammcq
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| 11:04 | <jammcq> hey ogra_ac
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| 11:04 | ogra_ac: scotty was thrilled to hear that you are gonna be with us at bts
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| 11:05 | <ogra_ac> hehe
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| 11:05 | all flights booked ... though i'll arrive late in the evening (i booked a rental car too)
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| 11:05 | <jammcq> cool
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| 11:06 | * jammcq wishes he could be at UDS in Orlando | |
| 11:06 | <ogra_ac> that would be cool
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| 11:06 | i catually have a thin client spec this time ;)
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| 11:06 | <jammcq> oh cool
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| 11:06 | <ogra_ac> though its not clear yet where that will go
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| 11:07 | might be a preinstalled mini desktop
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| 11:07 | i was asked to do it but didnt get details what is wanted
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| 11:07 | <jammcq> like on a flash drive?
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| 11:14 | <pmatulis> mgariepy: i got it to work with a wrapper shell script
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| 11:14 | mgariepy: the about:config parameter you mentioned is for something else, the main FF cache
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| 11:15 | mgariepy: wonder if anyone else would be interested in my solution/hack
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| 11:18 | <chupacabra> yeehaa
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| 11:22 | <jammcq> chupacabra: hey hey
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| 11:43 | <mgariepy> pmatulis, i am
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| 11:44 | <pmatulis> mgariepy: i'm going to send a message to ltsp-discuss ML
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| 11:44 | <mgariepy> great
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| 14:09 | <robb_> good evening all....
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| 14:09 | <Lns> hi robb_
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| 14:10 | <robb_> anyone can explain why a newly created standar user can't login to ltsp?.... with my own (root priveliges) account I have no problems
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| 14:10 | what do I need to change? does a user need certain rights?
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| 14:10 | <Lns> robb_: nope..should "just work". have you been able to log in with that user to the server itself?
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| 14:11 | <robb_> yup
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| 14:11 | <alkisg> !compiz
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| 14:11 | <ltspbot`> alkisg: "compiz" :: if compiz is giving you problems, one way to disable it for all users is: sudo gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory --type string --set /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager metacity
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| 14:11 | <Lns> lol alkisg
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| 14:11 | <robb_> I allso updated ssh-keys and image
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| 14:11 | <Lns> would compiz actually prevent the user from logging in?
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| 14:12 | <alkisg> It would accept the password and then crash X causing ldm to reappear
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| 14:12 | <abeehc> compiz will eat your young
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| 14:12 | <alkisg> It's the most common cause for 1 user logging in and another not
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| 14:12 | <cliebow> jammcq: anything to know before bts?
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| 14:12 | <robb_> I don't think I have compiz active....
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| 14:12 | <mgariepy> i've seen compiz crashing X when the video card doesn't support dual screen with compiz and stuff.
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| 14:13 | <robb_> and on the same terminal.. I can log in with my own account and not with the newly created account
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| 14:14 | so I'm a bit puzzled why
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| 14:14 | <mgariepy> robb_, do you uses dual screens ?
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| 14:14 | <alkisg> robb_: it's enabled by default, so if that's the problem, you need to disable it
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| 14:14 | <robb_> no
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| 14:14 | no dual screens
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| 14:15 | <robb_> is there a console command to disable compiz?
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| 14:15 | <alkisg> Actually I don't think that's exactly compiz but the default window manager, whatever that is... gnomewm? Replacing it with metacity works though
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| 14:15 | Yes, see above
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| 14:15 | <robb_> gnome
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| 14:15 | <jammcq> cliebow: HEY !!!!
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| 14:16 | <alkisg> We need to file a bug for that, causes grief to many ltsp users :)
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| 14:17 | <robb_> so I can edit in gconf-editor....??
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| 14:17 | <alkisg> robb_: I wrote a command above, you can try that.
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| 14:17 | OK let me write it again
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| 14:17 | !compiz
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| 14:17 | <ltspbot`> alkisg: "compiz" :: if compiz is giving you problems, one way to disable it for all users is: sudo gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory --type string --set /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager metacity
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| 14:18 | <mgariepy> robb_, yes you can set is as mandatory with gconf-editor if you have root access
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| 14:18 | but the commands is quite easy to copy/paste too :)
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| 14:18 | <robb_> done
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| 14:19 | I'll retry loggin in with new user
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| 14:19 | thnx so far
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| 14:19 | might be back later... ;)
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| 14:20 | <cliebow> jammcq: i saw you pinged..but was occupied everything looking good?
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| 14:21 | <salomon_> Hi alkisg, I read that the LTSP has problem with OpenBox, which is the window manager that LXDE uses, do you think LTSP works fine with XFCE instead of LXDE?
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| 14:21 | <alkisg> No idea, you can ask in the channel though, maybe other people know :)
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| 14:21 | <jammcq> cliebow: yep everything looks good
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| 14:21 | <salomon_> Ok, thanks
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| 14:22 | <jammcq> cliebow: we'll be there sometime thursday afternoon/evening
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| 14:22 | <cliebow> looking forward to it..got a world class turnout it seems
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| 14:22 | <jammcq> some people will arrive on friday
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| 14:23 | <cliebow> ill see you then Thursday night for sure then..guess i should brush up on my Portuguese
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| 14:23 | <jammcq> heh
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| 14:23 | me too
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| 14:23 | <cliebow> since i cant even say hello
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| 14:23 | <jammcq> we'll see if this year, we can learn some brazilian drinking songs, to go along with the norwegian drinking songs
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| 14:23 | <cliebow> and the mad Canadian
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| 14:24 | !
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| 14:24 | <jammcq> ah yes
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| 14:24 | he's SOOOO excited
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| 14:24 | he'll be flying here on saturday. then we'll visit NYC for several days
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| 14:24 | <cliebow> havnt eseen him since forever here..Scottie that is
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| 14:24 | ohh Marlon?
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| 14:24 | <salomon_> Does anyone have tested LTSP with Xubuntu 10.10?
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| 14:25 | <jammcq> scotty will fly here, then we'll meet up with Marlon and Alberto in NYC on monday
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| 14:25 | <cliebow> salomon_, i dont know of anyone..
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| 14:25 | Beautiful..
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| 14:35 | <cliebow> brb
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| 14:47 | <atkuepker> Has anyone run into problems with Ubuntu and DBus lately in high user count environments?
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| 14:47 | <Appiah> what kind of problems?
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| 14:49 | <atkuepker> Took months of digging, but we finally figured it out. Dbus was locking up after it hit the 1024 per-process file handle limit at around 50 users. Just wondering how widespread those same symptoms are within the LTSP fold.
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| 14:50 | <atkuepker> Once it locks up, no users can log in and existing application slowly become unusable. Very annoying and tough to diagnose since DBUS creating almost no usable logging.
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| 14:56 | <cliebow> Godd night all..
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| 14:59 | <mgariepy> atkuepker, did you try to boost it in /etc/security/limits.conf ?
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| 15:00 | # dbus-daemon --system needs more than the default 1024 open files allowed.
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| 15:00 | messagebus soft nofile 65000
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| 15:00 | messagebus hard nofile 65535
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| 15:01 | <atkuepker> Yes, but /etc/init/dbus.conf is supposedly the correct workaround nowadays due to Upstart
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| 15:01 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus/+bug/381063
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| 15:08 | <Mip5> Is there a way to set up 4 or 5 PCs to function as an LTSP server? I've read up on the cluster, and it looks like things are distributed across the cluster, such that if any server died, the whole thing would go down. I'm wondering if it would be possible to setup the ltsp servers sort of like RAID, where if one of machines died, the clients would just boot from another server.
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| 15:09 | <mgariepy> atkuepker, adding the configuration to /etc/security/limits.conf works quite well too.
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| 15:16 | <Mip5> I'll keep reading up on the cluster and check back in with y'all. Thanks!
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| 15:23 | <atkuepker> good to know. thanks.
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| 15:48 | <abeehc> rts working atleast)
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| 15:48 | 11:36 <@Rein> will 'translate' it back to english
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| 15:48 | 12:41 <@Rein> is micheal shanks in RED?
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| 15:49 | wtfpastefailsry
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| 16:05 | <robehend1> Hey All, quick question with OpenOffice on LTSP. I'm getting an input/output error when I'm trying to save documents sometimes. It only lets me export as a PDF
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| 16:07 | anyone ran across that before?
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| 16:37 | <atkuepker> yes, it was 1) the user didn't have write access to that directory or 2) they weren't putting a file extension on it and OO3.1 was complaing or 3) we never did figure it out and remove and re-installed OO.org completely which fixed it.
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| 22:11 | <bucky_> hey need some ideas anyone here to talk
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| 22:14 | <bucky_> mistik1_: hey you know about ltsp
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| 22:23 | <vagrantc> !question
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| 22:23 | <ltspbot`> vagrantc: "question" :: if you have a question about ltsp, please go ahead and ask it, and people will respond if they can. please also mention the linux distro and release you're using. :)
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