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Channel log from 8 February 2008 (all times are UTC)
| 00:04 | <AzMoo> Is there a way I can set the client's network details statically?
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| 00:04 | <vagrantc> this is over a wan ?
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| 00:05 | <vagrantc> what kind of bandwidth and latency?
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| 00:05 | <AzMoo> 10Mbit, about 70ms
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| 00:05 | er, wait, no it seems the latency is far less than that.
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| 00:06 | wow. Windows is reporting <1ms
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| 00:07 | linux is reporting 3-4ms.
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| 00:30 | <tuukka> Hi! i ran into this problem (in gutsy) where nautilus ends up taking all the processor time after it's closed on some occasions = process is left open. i found several similar statements by googleing but none could help me ... any insights/ideas/solutions/reasons into this problem??
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| 01:05 | <daduke> vagrantc: hi there! we're running LTSP5 on Debian etch and would like to add entries to the xorg.conf font path. Do you happen to know how/where the xorg.conf is generated? Haven't been able to figure it out yet.... thanks.
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| 01:28 | <vagrantc> daduke: are you using the ltsp packages in etch, or the backports of newer ltsp?
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| 01:29 | daduke: dpkg -l 'ltsp*' | egrep ^ii ; dpkg --root=/opt/ltsp/i386 -l 'ltsp*' ldm | egrep ^ii
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| 01:29 | !pastebot
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| 01:29 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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| 02:02 | <Pascal_1> Bonjour !!
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| 02:28 | <daduke> vagrantc: sorry for the delay... we use alioth.debian.org backports: ii ltsp-server 5.0.40~bzr20071229-1~40.etch.0 basic LTSP server environment
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| 02:28 | ii ltspfs 0.5.0~bzr20080109-3~40.etch.0 Fuse based remote filesystem for LTSP thin c
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| 02:28 | ii ldm 5.0.39debian1~40.etch.0 LTSP display manager
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| 02:28 | ii ltsp-client 5.0.39debian1~40.etch.0 LTSP client environment
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| 02:28 | ii ltsp-client-core 5.0.39debian1~40.etch.0 LTSP client environment
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| 02:28 | ii ltspfsd 0.5+debian1~0.fg.1 Fuse based remote filesystem daemon for LTSP
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| 02:28 | vagrantc: ooops, didn't see pastebot in time. my bad.
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| 02:30 | <vagrantc> daduke: ok, so a bit out of date....
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| 02:31 | i don't think any major changes in xorg.conf handling though ...
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| 02:32 | daduke: by default, it calls the script /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/lib/ltsp/configure-x.sh
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| 02:32 | daduke: with the newer version of ltsp-client-core, you can override that ... not sure if it's in the version you have
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| 02:32 | daduke: what entries do you want to add to the font path?
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| 02:44 | <daduke> vagrantc: we need 2 additional font paths for mathematica.
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| 02:44 | vagrantc: thanks a lot for the info, I will have a look immediately. Probably that was the missing info.
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| 02:45 | <vagrantc> daduke: you can also specify a static xorg.conf ... using X_CONF=/path/to/xorg.conf in lts.conf
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| 02:46 | <daduke> vagrantc: yes I know, and that's what we did in the beginning, but we got different clients needing different xorg.confs
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| 02:47 | <vagrantc> daduke: if you want local device support, i would recommend upgrading ldm and ltspfs and ltspfsd
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| 02:49 | <daduke> vagrantc: that's the other thing we're still working on! multiple USB sticks didn't work. Is this fixed now? That'd be terrific news!
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| 02:49 | <vagrantc> daduke: should be working better.
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| 02:49 | !debian
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| 02:49 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "debian" is is a GNU/Linux based operating system that makes an excellent LTSP server. You can find it at http://www.debian.org. for information about LTSP on debian see http://wiki.debian.org/LTSP
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| 02:50 | <vagrantc> daduke: check out the howto page
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| 02:50 | <daduke> vagrantc: thanks so much! You're the man.
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| 02:52 | vagrantc: we're rolling out LTSP clients to our PhD students at the Physics Dept. of the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology. Lotsa fame for LTSP ;)
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| 02:53 | <vagrantc> daduke: hope it fixes your issues ... there's one glitch with the new backports ... it requires upgrading mount or symlinking /etc/mtab to /proc/mounts
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| 02:53 | otherwise output from df gets confused
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| 02:54 | spent a fair amount of time working on ltspfs the last two months
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| 02:54 | <daduke> vagrantc: would mount from backports help? or is symlinking /etc/mtab to /proc/mounts safe without side effects?
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| 02:54 | vagrantc: time well spent! thanks so much for the effort.
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| 02:55 | <vagrantc> daduke: there may be side-effects to the symlink approach ... but mostly it should be safe. if you regularly mount the server's floppy drive or CDROM or whatever, you might get some issues.
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| 02:56 | daduke: backports.org doesn't seem to have a new version of mount
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| 02:56 | daduke: so you'd have to backport it yourself
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| 02:57 | <daduke> vagrantc: nope, that's all network. backporting is not problem. We have ppl doing that all day ;) any specific version to look for?
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| 02:57 | <vagrantc> daduke: should be fixed in 2.13 of util-linux
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| 02:59 | daduke: still haven't figured out the "white background" problem with the backported ldm on etch.
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| 02:59 | <daduke> vagrantc: can you please specify? Not sure we've seen that...
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| 02:59 | <vagrantc> daduke: at some point, i tried the backported etch binaries on lenny, and it worked fine. (although now i think GTK has diverged too much)
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| 03:00 | daduke: login screen shows a white background instead of the bg.png ...
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| 03:00 | <vagrantc> so i think it's some change in the gtk stuff that ldm uses.
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| 03:00 | <daduke> vagrantc: yep, but that's no prob for us, we just replaced the logo in a new theme. That's all we need.
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| 03:01 | * vagrantc wants to be able to change the background too ... | |
| 03:01 | <vagrantc> especially white backgrounds...
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| 03:02 | * daduke agrees, but mathematica fonts and USB sticks are more important to us ;) | |
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| 03:02 | <vagrantc> heh
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| 03:02 | well good luck with that. i should get some sleep.
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| 03:03 | <daduke> vagrantc: thanks so much again. More progress in 10 min than in the last 2 weeks ;)
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| 03:03 | vagrantc: good night
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| 03:17 | <vagrantc> daduke: well, the util-linux from lenny builds ok on etch ... not sure if it runs properly or anything ...
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| 03:18 | (i couldn't resist)
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| 03:25 | <Pascal_1> hello is there a good link for explaination about nbd ?? the new version doesnt use nfs anymore but nbd and i would like to know more about it
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| 04:06 | <Pascal_1> arf!!
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| 04:06 | i've got some problem to make works ltsp on ubuntu 7.10
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| 04:07 | when i try to connect on thin client i've got this error : read : connection refused
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| 04:07 | what does that mean ?
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| 04:10 | anybody to help me ?
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| 04:10 | i made a classic install of ubuntu
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| 04:11 | then apt-get install ltsp-server openssh-server
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| 04:11 | then ltsp-buil-client
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| 04:11 | no trouble for that the problems came after during boot of thin client
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| 04:11 | read : connection refused
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| 04:13 | i thought ubuntu didnt use nfs, my problem could came from that ?
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| 04:13 | help !
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| 04:23 | <Pascal_1> anybody to help me ?
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| 04:25 | does the new version need nfs ?
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| 04:34 | nobody here ?
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| 04:48 | <Pascal_1> with the new version what is the syntaxe for dhcpd.conf when nbd is used and not nfs ?
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| 04:50 | <Pascal_1> ogra could you help me please ?
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| 05:11 | <Pascal_1> !paste
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| 05:11 | <ltspbot> Pascal_1: Error: "paste" is not a valid command.
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| 05:13 | <Pascal_1> here is my config and the problem i meet : http://pastebin.com/m60a03736
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| 06:41 | <marcellod> hello
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| 06:41 | anyone is using
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| 06:41 | ltsp
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| 06:41 | on heavy load?
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| 06:48 | <humbolt> marcellod: what is heavy?
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| 06:48 | I only run it on 3-6 terminals
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| 06:57 | <Pascal_1> anybody for my problem ?
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| 06:57 | http://pastebin.com/m60a03736 the same configuration works with ubuntu dapper
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| 07:00 | <tuukka> marcellod: i'm running ltsp on 13 terminals
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| 07:01 | <sep> 4 servers with 40-50 terminals on each
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| 07:01 | <Pascal_1> somebody told me that ltsp5 on gutsy didnt use anymore nfs but it seems to be used , i dont understand
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| 07:01 | <johnny> it's not used
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| 07:01 | on my system at all
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| 07:02 | <johnny> the rootfs is delivered via nbd
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| 07:02 | <Pascal_1> via have you seen my pastebin ??
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| 07:03 | this configuration works with ubuntu dapper but not with gutsy, what i have to change ?
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| 07:03 | <johnny> start over
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| 07:03 | <Pascal_1> ?
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| 07:03 | <johnny> well keep your dhcp and tftp config
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| 07:03 | <Pascal_1> what do you mean ?
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| 07:03 | my config is good for you ?
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| 07:04 | it looks like it try to use nfs to download fs
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| 07:05 | johnny, you told me that i have to install again ubuntu and ltsp ?
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| 07:07 | <humbolt> I know you can make LTSP5 on gutsy use NFS by tweaking some things in the client environment. My question is, if it is possible to use the same client environment for both NFS and NBD clients?
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| 07:07 | <johnny> no
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| 07:07 | err
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| 07:07 | humbolt, yes it is
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| 07:08 | people do devel that way
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| 07:08 | and testing
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| 07:08 | <Pascal_1> do i have to keep this argument passed to the kernell "nfsroot=192.168.39.199:/opt/ltsp/i386"
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| 07:08 | <johnny> they don't run at the same time
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| 07:08 | Pascal_1, no
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| 07:08 | humbolt, it's set at the server level globally
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| 07:08 | <Pascal_1> johnny, what i have to do ?
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| 07:08 | <johnny> purge your ltsp config files
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| 07:08 | err install files
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| 07:08 | and reinstall
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| 07:08 | <Pascal_1> where they are ?
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| 07:09 | <johnny> Pascal_1, read your docs for yoru os :)
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| 07:09 | <Pascal_1> reinstal ltsp ?
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| 07:09 | <johnny> yes
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| 07:09 | and then rebuild the image
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| 07:09 | ltsp-build-client
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| 07:09 | <Pascal_1> do i have to make ltsp-build-client
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| 07:09 | <johnny> yes
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| 07:09 | <johnny> delete your old one
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| 07:09 | <johnny> create a new one
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| 07:09 | in fact.. maybe that'll just work
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| 07:09 | <Pascal_1> you told me to read the doc, could you give me url ?
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| 07:10 | <johnny> man apt-get ?
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| 07:10 | etc
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| 07:10 | <Pascal_1> hmm, y dont reinstall ltsp (apt-get install) only ltsp-build-client ??
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| 07:10 | <johnny> because who knows what you might have lying around
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| 07:10 | <Pascal_1> i make apt-get install ltsp-server openssh-server what more ?
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| 07:10 | <johnny> i don't actually know what generates /var/lib/tftpboot files
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| 07:11 | you could backup /var/lib/tftpboot and /opt/ltsp
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| 07:11 | or rather move them
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| 07:11 | and then run ltsp-build-client
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| 07:12 | <marcellod> thank all for replies
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| 07:12 | i m going to install an try
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| 07:13 | my only dubt is only on multimedia performances/capabilities
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| 07:14 | <Pascal_1> johnny, is there log created during ltsp-buil-client ?
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| 07:17 | <johnny> maybe.. i don't know :)
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| 07:17 | i'm not an expert
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| 07:17 | i'm sure it's feasible
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| 07:17 | i just know it works for me :)
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| 07:17 | <Pascal_1> could you show me your config file (dhcp and default file ) ?
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| 07:18 | <johnny> i just dnsmasq
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| 07:18 | not dhcp
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| 07:18 | it wouldn't be relevant for you
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| 07:18 | or rather.. not dhcpd
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| 07:18 | just try buidling the image
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| 07:18 | see what happens
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| 07:19 | <Pascal_1> but why it works with dapper and not with gutsy ?
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| 07:20 | <johnny> i'm not going to help you figure that out ..would prolly take too long
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| 07:20 | just build it :)
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| 07:20 | gutsy is different enough is the easy answer
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| 07:27 | <Pascal_1> then first apt-get autoremove --purge ltsp-server ?
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| 07:28 | and apt-get install ltsp-server ??
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| 07:28 | <johnny> just try building a new client
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| 07:28 | after doing what i said
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| 07:28 | moving those two directories
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| 07:29 | <Pascal_1> i reinstalling ltsp-server and i've got this error : Paramétrage de nbd-server (1:2.9.6-1ubuntu3) ...
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| 07:29 | ** (process:8677): WARNING **: Could not parse config file: Unknown error
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| 07:29 | ** Message: Nothing to do! Bye!
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| 07:29 | nbd-server.
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| 07:30 | <johnny> think i got that too
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| 07:30 | ignore it for now
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| 07:31 | <Pascal_1> ok
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| 07:31 | lets ltsp-build-client !!
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| 07:32 | at the end of this apt-get it talk about nfs ??
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| 07:32 | <johnny> huh?
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| 07:34 | <Pascal_1> where i can paste in other place than here ?
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| 07:34 | <johnny> pastebin of some kind
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| 07:34 | !pasteboot
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| 07:34 | <ltspbot> johnny: Error: "pasteboot" is not a valid command.
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| 07:34 | <johnny> err
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| 07:34 | !pastebot
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| 07:34 | <ltspbot> johnny: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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| 07:35 | <Pascal_1> johnny, http://pastebin.com/m2737f824
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| 07:35 | the installation speak about nfs i dont understand why
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| 07:35 | <johnny> who cares :)
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| 07:35 | just go
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| 07:35 | <Pascal_1> ok
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| 07:35 | I: Retrieving makedev
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| 07:35 | W: Couldn't download package makedev
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| 07:36 | <johnny> lol..
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| 07:36 | that sucks
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| 07:36 | <Pascal_1> is it important ?
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| 07:40 | <johnny> you'll find out i guess
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| 07:40 | if it's still going it's prolly fine
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| 07:42 | <Pascal_1> the installation failed
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| 07:42 | have you got a knife ?
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| 07:43 | <johnny> failed where?
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| 07:45 | <Pascal_1> depend make dev ;-)....
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| 07:45 | makedev
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| 07:46 | <Pascal_1> i try again apt-get install ltsp-server-standalone
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| 07:46 | <johnny> does that run build-client?
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| 07:46 | <Pascal_1> (standalone option)
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| 07:47 | n,o
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| 07:47 | no
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| 07:48 | <johnny> then i don't think it'll help
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| 07:48 | <johnny> if it can't download it.. maybe your mirror is bad?
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| 07:48 | that's pretty basic package
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| 07:48 | needed on your system anyways
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| 07:49 | <Pascal_1> arf now : Retrieving libpci2
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| 07:49 | W: Couldn't download package libpci2
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| 07:49 | may be the mirror
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| 07:51 | I: Configuring initramfs-tools...
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| 07:51 | W: Failure while configuring base packages. This will be attempted 5 times
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| 07:51 | it's crasy
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| 07:52 | <johnny> yeah.. it must be your mirror or something
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| 07:52 | uggh.. soo late
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| 07:52 | almost 9am
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| 07:52 | <Pascal_1> oups sorry
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| 07:53 | <johnny> try again in an hour or so
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| 07:57 | <Pascal_1> actually this is this default mirror : http://security.ubuntu.com//ubuntu gutsy main restricted
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| 07:57 | is there a better mirror than this one ?
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| 08:12 | <Pascal_1> reinstall completed....................connection refused
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| 08:12 | i dont understand anything, the same configuration worked on dapper ............... :-(
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| 08:20 | anybody ?
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| 08:21 | i think i m going to reinstall dapper :-(
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| 08:31 | <Pascal_1> Gadi, !!!! could you help me ?
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| 08:31 | i'm lost
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| 08:33 | Gadi, http://pastebin.com/m60a03736
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| 08:36 | <Nubae> hi
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| 08:36 | <Nubae> what happens during this stage of bootup: * Loading manual drivers?
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| 08:38 | If this is loading things like nvidia/ati drivers I would like to skip it altogether, but not sure where to disable that startup option
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| 08:42 | <Gadi> Pascal_1: sounds like ur 2 dhcp servers are conflicting
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| 08:42 | Nubae: that is udev - you need that
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| 08:42 | <Pascal_1> i've got only one dhcp
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| 08:42 | <Gadi> LTSP installation on a second server "ltsp" @ip 192.168.39.199
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| 08:42 | not according to that
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| 08:42 | :)
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| 08:43 | <Pascal_1> only ltsp on this server no dhcp
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| 08:43 | <Gadi> ps -ale|grep dhcp on that box
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| 08:44 | <Pascal_1> nothing
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| 08:44 | netstat -ntulp give nothing
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| 08:44 | <Nubae> this is for a fat client
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| 08:45 | <Gadi> Pascal_1: how about: showmount -e
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| 08:45 | <Pascal_1> on the ltsp serve ?
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| 08:45 | <Nubae> the system hangs on udev looks like
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| 08:45 | <Gadi> yes
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| 08:45 | <Pascal_1> i've not this command
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| 08:45 | <Gadi> Nubae: then, you may have a bad udev rule
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| 08:45 | Pascal_1: did you install nfs-kernel-server?
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| 08:45 | <Nubae> I haven't touched udev
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| 08:45 | <Pascal_1> no
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| 08:46 | <Gadi> well, how is it going to nfsmount if you have no nfs?
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| 08:46 | <Nubae> but I'll check it out, maybe there is something thin client specific
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| 08:46 | <Pascal_1> i thought that ltsp on gutsy didnt use nfs
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| 08:46 | <Gadi> you are telling it to
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| 08:46 | nfsroot=192.168.39.199:/opt/ltsp/i386
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| 08:46 | <Pascal_1> yes this the config wich works with dapper, what i have to do on gutsy ?
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| 08:46 | without nfs ?
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| 08:46 | you are right ;-)
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| 08:47 | when i erase this param i've nfsmount need path
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| 08:47 | <Gadi> remove: root=/dev/nfs ip=dhcp nfsroot=192.168.39.199:/opt/ltsp/i386
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| 08:47 | and MOPTS=nolock,ro,wsize=2048,rsize=2048
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| 08:47 | <Pascal_1> if i do that (if i remember well) it told me nfsmount need path
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| 08:48 | i try now ..... wait
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| 08:48 | <Gadi> also, make sure you are serving it *gutsy's* kernel and initrmamfs
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| 08:49 | *initramfs
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| 08:49 | NOT debian's
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| 08:49 | <Pascal_1> it told me "nfsmount need a path"
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| 08:50 | how i can know what kernel i serve
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| 08:50 | you mean in the tftp server ?
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| 08:50 | <Gadi> filename in dhcpd.conf
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| 08:50 | yeah
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| 08:50 | <Pascal_1> you think it could be the reason ??
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| 08:50 | <Gadi> you need to give a gutsy chroot a gutsy kernel+initramfs
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| 08:51 | definitely
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| 08:51 | <Pascal_1> may be it's an old installation and i keep the debian kernel...... you think it could be the answer ?? but why it worked with dapper ?
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| 08:55 | <Nubae> I took out ltsp-client-core out of init.d, would that affect udev?
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| 08:55 | figured it was getting in the way of starting up as a fat client
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| 08:55 | <Gadi> Nubae: that will break your thin client
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| 08:55 | <Gadi> and no
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| 08:58 | <Nuba2> Nubae: ok, here's some background... I tried to make a minimal X based fat client system by apt-get install edubuntu-addon-light gdm
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| 08:58 | (03:57:01 PM) Nubae: nfs stuff and ldap client stuff too
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| 08:58 | (03:57:48 PM) Nubae: but the startup always freezes, though if I do a totally minimal install, ie... just gdm and xfce with no apps, it works
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| 08:58 | (03:57:51 PM) Nubae: startup is fine
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| 08:59 | I spoke with ogra, and he mentioned ltsp-client-core could be getting in the way
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| 09:00 | <Nuba2> so moved the run levels, so gdm was before ltsp-client-core, but that made no difference
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| 09:00 | <Gadi> where does it freeze?
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| 09:00 | <Nuba2> I'm not exactly sure where to look for the freezes
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| 09:00 | well, right now its on udev, like you said
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| 09:01 | but it has gotten further than that... all the way to ltsp-client-setup or starting gdm
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| 09:01 | I'm sort of playing a guessing game by taking stuff out of init.d, but I'm sure thats not the right way to do this :-)
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| 09:02 | <Gadi> is it a low-powered client?
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| 09:02 | <Nuba2> what I dont get is that the chroot can be working fine, and then I install just one or 2 packages with apt-get, and startup no longer works
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| 09:03 | no way, its a core 2 duo with 1 gig or ram
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| 09:03 | I have 20 of them, laptops, which is why I'm desperate to get this working
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| 09:03 | <Gadi> do a dpkg -L on the edubuntu pkg you installed
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| 09:03 | see what it added
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| 09:04 | * Gadi doubts its gdm's fault | |
| 09:04 | <Nuba2> ok, I'm gonna make a fresh chroot, and install just edubuntu-addon-light, gdm, nfs, and ldap
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| 09:04 | I'll tell u when its at that point...
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| 09:04 | I'm making a wiki howto, but till I get it working right every time, the instructions are useless :-/
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| 09:07 | <Pascal_1> gadi imake the modification : from my ltsp server i copy the contain of tftpboot on my tftp server, now i've got this error : mounting sys on /root/sys failed no such file or directory, same for proc
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| 09:07 | target filesystem doesnt have /sbin/init
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| 09:08 | before i've got mountin rofs on /root/rofs failed invalid argument
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| 09:11 | gadi ?
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| 09:11 | any idea ?
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| 09:13 | <r3zon8> im coming off of k12ltsp (fc4 based), and i want to get some advice of which is most current os to run ltsp on for about 30 clients?
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| 09:14 | <Nuba2> debian or ubuntu
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| 09:14 | <r3zon8> fc4 is outdated, and ubuntu feels right
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| 09:14 | and i really liked the 'prebundled' install of k12ltsp, but i have no prob getting it working on my own
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| 09:15 | <Nuba2> well, the basics are the same with ubuntu, its pretty simple
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| 09:15 | <r3zon8> i definitely would like ot give ubuntu a try nuba
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| 09:15 | <Nuba2> should be plug and play
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| 09:15 | <r3zon8> i read the server version comes prebundled
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| 09:15 | with ltsp
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| 09:16 | <Guaraldo> Someone had problems with ltsp4.2 on gutsy about LocalDevices?
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| 09:16 | <Nuba2> well, if you are feeling experimental try the new alpha4 hardy
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| 09:16 | if its a production server though, maybe stick to gutsy
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| 09:17 | well, gutsy comes with ltsp 5
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| 09:19 | <r3zon8> yes, this would be production
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| 09:19 | what id like is to setup ubuntu server on a test box i ve got, maybe hookup a tc to it and see how it goes
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| 09:20 | check out the new office apps, usb key support, vmware
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| 09:20 | ive just never ran an ubuntu box before :/
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| 09:20 | red hat then fedora for many years
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| 09:22 | is there a ubuntu,ltsp wiki around?
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| 09:22 | ubuntu+wiki
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| 09:22 | ubuntu+ltsp i mean
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| 09:32 | <Nuba2> well, if you want to test, I suggest going for hardy
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| 09:33 | there are some problems with local devices, shared vnc sessions and some hardware detection in gutsy
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| 09:33 | but its all fixable
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| 09:33 | <daduke> r3zon8: https://wiki.ubuntu.com and search for ltsp
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| 09:33 | <Nuba2> there are several ubuntu wikis
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| 09:33 | <Nuba2> the best is under community.ubuntu.com I believe
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| 09:34 | help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP
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| 09:35 | vmware you'll have to set up aside, its not included in the default installs
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| 09:35 | but its not hard, I've got it working here
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| 09:37 | <Pascal_1> Gadi, now i've got" mounting rofs on /root/rofs failed invalid argument"
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| 09:40 | <r3zon8> so i should definitely concentrate on edubuntu for my ltsp enviroment?
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| 09:40 | environment
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| 09:45 | <Nuba2> I would
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| 09:46 | the ltsp5 developers are very involved with ubuntu and debian
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| 09:46 | so I think you'll see the most advances if you stick to edubuntu
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| 09:46 | <r3zon8> nice, i keep getting disconnected while download the image
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| 09:47 | <Nuba2> using wget?
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| 09:47 | <r3zon8> just off the website
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| 09:48 | nm, looks like it going now, picked another mirror
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| 09:49 | gonna grab some lunch then try to set it up
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| 09:53 | <Pascal_1> gady ??
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| 09:53 | Gadi, ?
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| 09:54 | my problem, is it a bug ? => http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2007/06/21/%23edubuntu.txt
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| 09:55 | ogra, ?
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| 10:01 | i thought i've just to install ubuntu ltsp and run....................... i'm desesperate
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| 10:12 | nobody to help me?
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| 10:12 | Gadi, i make what you told me to do...it doesnt work anymore
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| 10:19 | <Nuba2> Pascal, why dont you try installing Gutsy
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| 10:20 | its already got nbd functionality built in
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| 10:23 | <Pascal_1> Nubae, but it's gutsy i installed
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| 10:23 | <Nubae> and whats the problem you're getting?
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| 10:24 | <Pascal_1> when i boot the thin client i've got this error message "mounting rofs on /root/rofs failed invalid argument"
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| 10:24 | <Nubae> why dont you try rebuilding the chroot
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| 10:24 | <Pascal_1> ltsp-build-client ?
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| 10:24 | <Nubae> sudo rm -rf /opt/ltsp/i386
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| 10:24 | <Pascal_1> i do that twice
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| 10:24 | <Nubae> and then ltsp-build-client
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| 10:25 | ah, and you get the same error every time?
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| 10:25 | <Pascal_1> yes
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| 10:25 | <Nubae> you're on i386 or x64?
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| 10:26 | <Pascal_1> i386
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| 10:30 | <Nubae> and you get a busybox prompt?
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| 10:31 | <Pascal_1> you a command line ?
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| 10:31 | yes
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| 10:32 | initramfs
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| 10:33 | <Nubae> paste your dhcpd.conf and /etc/network/interfaces into pastebot.ltsp.nl
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| 10:35 | <Pascal_1> http://pastebin.com/m60a03736
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| 10:35 | there is something starnge : on my tftp server on the log the thin client try to get lts.conf
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| 10:36 | usualy it try to found it on the ltsp server
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| 10:36 | no ?
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| 10:36 | <Nubae> it looks for lts.conf here: /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/
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| 10:37 | <Pascal_1> yes but if you saw my configuration, the ltsp server is on a machine and the dhcp-tftp server are on an other machine
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| 10:38 | why it try to get lts.conf here ?
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| 10:39 | <Nubae> yeah I see that, it looks like your clients are not finding the tftp server
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| 10:39 | <Pascal_1> they find it at the beginning of the boot to load kernel
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| 10:39 | did you see my config ?
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| 10:40 | <Nubae> yeah, but y are you mounting via nfs and not nbd?
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| 10:40 | <Pascal_1> yes i modify it : http://pastebin.com/m5870a0aa
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| 10:40 | nbd
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| 10:40 | <Pascal_1> it was an old config file, Gadi make modify it
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| 10:42 | <Nubae> ok, so your tftp and dhcp servers are on .247
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| 10:42 | <Pascal_1> the error is not the same than on the pastebin now its "mounting rofs on /root/rofs failed invalid argument", because the kernel on my tftp was not a "gutsy one"
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| 10:42 | <Nubae> and actual ltsp server is .199?
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| 10:42 | <Pascal_1> Nubae, yes
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| 10:42 | yes
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| 10:42 | this configuration because i used already tftp server
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| 10:43 | <Nubae> and how does your setup know the ltsp server is at .199?
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| 10:43 | <Pascal_1> :-( i dont know :-(
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| 10:44 | where i could write that ?
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| 10:45 | <Nubae> where is your nbdserver?
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| 10:45 | <Pascal_1> i understand what you say but i dont know wherre to put this information, whan i use d it with nfs it was indicated in my default file (nfsroot....) but with nbd ???
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| 10:45 | <Nubae> on .199?
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| 10:45 | <Pascal_1> the nbdserver is on the ltsp machine
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| 10:45 | yes on 199
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| 10:46 | <Nubae> ok.. well normally you can define the port of the image by adding nbdport=2001 or something
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| 10:46 | the nbd image is defined in inetd.conf
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| 10:46 | so check what you have there
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| 10:46 | you might be able to point to the full machine, have a check what options are allowed for pxelinux.cfg for nbd stuff
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| 10:46 | <Pascal_1> i try this "NBDPORT=2000" on my "default" file may be i have to put the ip adresse non ?
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| 10:47 | <Nubae> yes... but not sure where
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| 10:47 | nbdhost=
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| 10:48 | so try adding that, nbdhost= 192.168.33.199
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| 10:48 | to pxelinux.cfg/default
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| 10:48 | that should fix it
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| 10:48 | <Pascal_1> i try now
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| 10:51 | <Pascal_1> that dont change, it try again on my tftp server and not on my ltsp server
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| 10:51 | <Nubae> did u restart the dhcp and tftp server?
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| 10:52 | <Nubae> and inetd
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| 10:52 | <Pascal_1> no
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| 10:52 | <Nubae> do /etc/init.d/openbsd-inetd restart
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| 10:53 | <Pascal_1> no more
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| 10:53 | <Pascal_1> he want to get it on my tftp server
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| 10:53 | <Nubae> wait, so where is pxelinux.cfg/default starting from?
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| 10:54 | <Pascal_1> ??
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| 10:54 | <Pascal_1> look my default file :
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| 10:54 | kernel vmlinuz
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| 10:54 | append initrd=ltsp/initrd.img nbdhost=192.168.151.199 nbdport=2000
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| 10:54 | <Nubae> yeah, but where is that file?
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| 10:54 | on which machine?
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| 10:54 | <Pascal_1> this file is on the tftp server (199)
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| 10:54 | oups 247
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| 10:54 | this file is on the tftp server 247
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| 10:54 | <Nubae> hmm, then it should be ok
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| 10:55 | <Pascal_1> you speak about the default file ?
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| 10:55 | <Pascal_1> if yes it's on the tftp server 247
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| 10:55 | then why the client try to get lts.conf on it ?
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| 10:56 | no idea ?
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| 10:57 | what it's strange is when i try with gutsy and nfs it works fine
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| 10:57 | <Pascal_1> not gutsy dapper
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| 10:57 | <Nubae> right, but because the nfs server is pointing to the correct place
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| 10:57 | the thing here is getting your tftp server to go to the nbdserver
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| 10:57 | it should be with the nbdhost=
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| 10:58 | lts.conf it tries to get on the tftp server because it doesnt know where the nbd image is
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| 10:58 | <Pascal_1> i understand that
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| 10:59 | <Nubae> im just not sure the tftp server really restarted
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| 10:59 | it should be pointing to the new place otherwise
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| 10:59 | <Gadi> Pascal_1: sorry - I am in and out today, but try: nbdroot=<server>:<port>
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| 11:00 | with port = 2000
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| 11:00 | <Pascal_1> gadi !!!!
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| 11:00 | i try
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| 11:01 | <Nubae> u've got a might complex set up there... would be easier to have things on the same machine ;-)
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| 11:02 | <Pascal_1> Nubae, i know that :-(
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| 11:02 | anyway if it works it's great
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| 11:03 | for the moment it stay on "filename : ltsp/nbi.img
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| 11:04 | wait....
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| 11:05 | :-(
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| 11:05 | it freeze on this line
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| 11:06 | <Nubae> why ltsp/initrd.img and not just initrd.img?
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| 11:06 | <Pascal_1> kernel vmlinuz
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| 11:06 | append initrd=ltsp/initrd.img nbdroot=192.168.39.199:2000
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| 11:06 | because i put it on the ltsp directory i didnt want to "melt"
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| 11:07 | <Nubae> ok, and you changed inet.conf to reflect that?
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| 11:07 | inetd.conf
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| 11:07 | <Pascal_1> the inetd.conf of my ltsp server ?
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| 11:08 | 2000 stream tcp nowait nobody /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/nbdrootd /opt/ltsp/images/i386.img
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| 11:08 | and hosts.allow
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| 11:08 | nbdrootd: ALL: keepalive
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| 11:08 | is it good
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| 11:08 | ?
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| 11:08 | <Gadi> Pascal_1: I have only: DEFAULT vmlinuz ro initrd=initrd.img quiet splash
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| 11:08 | so, you should have something like that + nbdroot=server:2000
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| 11:08 | <Nubae> yeah but he moved it the .img to ltsp
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| 11:09 | <Gadi> which image?
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| 11:09 | the squashfs image?
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| 11:09 | <Nubae> (06:06:54 PM) Pascal_1: because i put it on the ltsp directory i didnt want to "melt"
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| 11:10 | <Gadi> what is "it"
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| 11:10 | and which ltsp directory?
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| 11:10 | <Nubae> initrd.img
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| 11:10 | <Pascal_1> wait i show you it's the arborescence of my tftpserver
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| 11:10 | <Gadi> ah - here's an idea - lets not change everysingle path away from the default and see what happens :P
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| 11:11 | <Nubae> hehehe
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| 11:11 | * Nubae goes for a smoke | |
| 11:12 | <Pascal_1> here is my tftp server arbo
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| 11:12 | http://pastebin.com/m1fba08f4
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| 11:14 | it doesnt works like that Gadi "DEFAULT vmlinuz ro initrd=initrd.img quiet splash"
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| 11:14 | <Gadi> initrd=initrd.img should still be correct
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| 11:14 | i believe
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| 11:15 | as long as your filename is: /ltsp/....
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| 11:15 | in dhcpd.conf
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| 11:15 | <Gadi> Pascal_1: you should put:
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| 11:16 | LABEL Test_LTSP MENU LABEL LTSP kernel vmlinuz append ro initrd=initrd.img quiet splash nbdroot=server:2000
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| 11:17 | and that entry should be in: /tftpboot/ltsp/pxelinux.cfg/default
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| 11:18 | otherwise, if you want to use /tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/default, then it should be: ltsp/vmlinuz
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| 11:18 | and ltsp/initrd.gz
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| 11:18 | er, initrd.img
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| 11:19 | <Pascal_1> wait
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| 11:19 | it works !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 11:19 | i didnt touch to my arborescence
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| 11:19 | look my default
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| 11:19 | <Nubae> thats logical then
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| 11:20 | <Pascal_1> LABEL Test_LTSP
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| 11:20 | MENU LABEL LTSP
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| 11:20 | kernel vmlinuz
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| 11:20 | append ro initrd=ltsp/initrd.img nbdroot=192.168.39.199:2000
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| 11:20 | Nubae, Gadi you are wonderfull !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 11:20 | <Pascal_1> how to thank you !!!
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| 11:20 | <vagrantc> Pascal_1: so you have vmlinuz and initrd.img in a different directory?
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| 11:21 | <Pascal_1> yes
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| 11:21 | may be it's pathological
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| 11:21 | look
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| 11:21 | * vagrantc certainly wouldn't recommend it | |
| 11:21 | * vagrantc doesn't see much logic to those paths | |
| 11:21 | <Pascal_1> http://pastebin.com/m54542493
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| 11:22 | <Nubae> u could always move your inetd server to another server too to make it consistent ;-)
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| 11:22 | <Pascal_1> because i wanted to separate different things
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| 11:22 | ghost images ltsp ....
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| 11:22 | <Gadi> vagrantc: did you commit your changes to ldm-trunk yet?
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| 11:22 | <vagrantc> Gadi: which changes?
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| 11:22 | <Pascal_1> Nubae, you laughing ??!!
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| 11:22 | <Gadi> vagrantc: since 799?
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| 11:23 | I think thats the last rev I have
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| 11:23 | <Nubae> yes Pascal, was a joke
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| 11:23 | <Gadi> the autologin button, et al
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| 11:23 | <vagrantc> Gadi: i'm up to 801
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| 11:23 | <Pascal_1> you find my organisation is bad ?
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| 11:23 | <vagrantc> Gadi: you know about "bzr missing" ?
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| 11:23 | <Gadi> ah, no
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| 11:23 | good tip
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| 11:23 | <vagrantc> Gadi: very handy :)
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| 11:23 | <Gadi> I made some patches against 799
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| 11:24 | I gotta remember how to merge and stuff again
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| 11:24 | first, I'll test
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| 11:24 | <Pascal_1> anyway thanks a lot to you Gadi Nubae vagrantc you save me it's a pleasure now to use ltsp
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| 11:24 | <vagrantc> Pascal_1: i would recommend keeping the vmlinuz for ltsp in the same directory as the initrd.img for ltsp
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| 11:24 | <Gadi> Pascal_1: np - you should consider a little cleanup of your tftpboot dir to keep everything straight
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| 11:24 | <Pascal_1> ok
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| 11:25 | then i should do taht after : kernel ltsp/vmlinuz
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| 11:25 | append ro initrd=ltsp/initrd.img nbdroot=192.168.39.199:2000
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| 11:25 | ?
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| 11:25 | <vagrantc> Gadi: the "guest login button" patches haven't been merged yet. what sort of patches you have pending?
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| 11:25 | Pascal_1: yeah
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| 11:26 | <Pascal_1> you are wonderful thanks again and sorry for my insistance !!
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| 11:27 | now i've got to "plug" authentication on ldap ........................
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| 11:27 | see you latter good evening
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| 11:33 | <Gadi> vagrantc: I patches the get_ip in the greeter to return first UP interface (not eth0 specifically)
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| 11:33 | I also fixed the directx bug ogra mentioned to me
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| 11:33 | hmm... right now just testing those two
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| 11:34 | <vagrantc> Gadi: post your patches and i can test them out too
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| 11:34 | <Gadi> oh, and added a "-w 5" to the nc call in the ldm screen script
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| 11:34 | I need to also check if I can safely exclude the nc call altogether when LDM_SESSION is set
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| 11:35 | <vagrantc> LDM_SESSION?
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| 11:35 | <Gadi> but, it creates a file, so I dont know how ldm reacts to no file/empty file
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| 11:35 | yeah
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| 11:35 | <vagrantc> ooooh. i didn't know about that one
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| 11:35 | <Gadi> the basic idea would be, if I force LDM_SESSION, dont go querying ldminfod
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| 11:36 | <vagrantc> ldminfod is also used to get language settings
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| 11:36 | * Gadi is thinking of remote servers which may have ldminfod's port blocked | |
| 11:36 | <Gadi> right
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| 11:36 | would have to do a -a LDM_LANGUAGE perhaps
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| 11:36 | or whatever it is
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| 11:37 | <vagrantc> oh, there's also LDM_LANGUAGE .... wonder if i should consider either of those for the autologin support
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| 11:37 | <Nubae> I have a custom xorg.conf file for my thin 'fat' client, I've put it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, that won't get overwritten will it?
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| 11:37 | <vagrantc> and/or "guest login button"
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| 11:39 | <Gadi> vagrantc: what form are the sessions returned in?
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| 11:39 | <vagrantc> Ryan52: i just thought of another feature you could work on that's a little beyond me ... being able to select the theme from lts.conf ...
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| 11:39 | <Gadi> are they /path/to/executable
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| 11:39 | or session name?
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| 11:39 | <vagrantc> Gadi: well, either /path/to/executable or simply executable
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| 11:40 | not always full paths anymore
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| 11:40 | * Gadi also noticed that a bunch of paths changed in the ldm-trunk migration | |
| 11:40 | <Gadi> do you have a mapping somewhere?
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| 11:40 | :)
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| 11:41 | like /usr/share/ldm -> /usr/libexec/ldm
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| 11:41 | <vagrantc> Gadi: well, /usr/libexec is basically a variable now
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| 11:42 | Gadi: on debian systems, it should probably be /usr/lib ... that's what i've been doing for debian
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| 11:42 | <Nubae> Gadi: I've just installed auth-client-config libpam-ldap libnss-ldap in the thin client environment, and thats what is making it hang, so I guess my ldap settings are screwed up... I'm following these setup steps, but something must be wrong there: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=597056
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| 11:44 | <vagrantc> Gadi: that's a compromise for the fedora folks ... i would prefer all that stuff stay in /usr/share ...
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| 11:46 | <Gadi> vagrantc: but if I specify it as /usr/share, it still is not the same as before, right?
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| 11:46 | <vagrantc> Gadi: "it" being ?
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| 11:46 | <Gadi> bec some stuff will still not be in the right place?
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| 11:46 | say I want to make it like gutsy
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| 11:46 | so, I can just drop it in
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| 11:47 | would it be sufficient to do: --libexec-prefix=/usr/share
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| 11:47 | or some such?
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| 11:48 | <vagrantc> Gadi: then the gtkgreeter ends up in /usr/share, which it really shouldn't
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| 11:48 | <Gadi> shouldnt because ldm wont find it?
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| 11:48 | <vagrantc> Gadi: not sure
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| 11:48 | <Gadi> ah
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| 11:48 | yeah
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| 11:48 | this is a bit of a p-i-t-a to test
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| 11:48 | <vagrantc> Gadi: but it's definitely the wrong place for an architecture-specific file
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| 11:48 | <Nubae> ok, I took out xorg.conf from /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and it works again
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| 11:49 | <vagrantc> Gadi: like i said, it was something the fedora folks did
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| 11:49 | (although it's actually good, in that it used to go in /usr/bin)
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| 11:49 | * Gadi considers keeping libexec to test and symlinking | |
| 11:49 | <Nubae> why does my bootup freeze if I put xorg.conf where its supposed to be?
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| 11:50 | <Gadi> Nubae: where does it freeze?
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| 11:50 | <vagrantc> Gadi: i would recommend /usr/lib and symlinking ... but you'll have to tweak the packaging
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| 11:51 | <Gadi> *sigh*
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| 11:51 | <vagrantc> Gadi: you'll have to tweak the packaging either way
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| 11:51 | * Gadi still doesnt know where to checkout a debian dir to roll ubuntu debs | |
| 11:51 | * vagrantc has no control over ubuntu developers | |
| 11:51 | <Gadi> now, ideally: ltsp-client and ldm together replace the old ltsp-client, ya?
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| 11:52 | <vagrantc> Gadi: ldm has been separated from ltsp-client for years... ?
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| 11:52 | <Nubae> at the last step, when X is supposed to start up
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| 11:52 | <Gadi> ah, thats right
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| 11:52 | they were just in the same source deb
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| 11:52 | * Gadi slaps head | |
| 11:52 | <Gadi> well, that might make life easier
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| 11:52 | <Nubae> if I put xorg.conf in the right place, it doesnt work, but if I do dpkg-reconfigure from the command line and tehn startx, no problem
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| 11:53 | <Gadi> I can uninstall ldm and install the new one
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| 11:53 | Nubae: sounds like a bad xorg.conf file
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| 11:54 | check the logs
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| 11:54 | <Nubae> I'm copying the xorg.conf file that I know worked doing dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg on the same machine
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| 11:54 | <Gadi> check the logs
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| 11:54 | maybe ur calling a module that you didnt install
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| 11:54 | <Nubae> I cant, because the system freezes
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| 11:54 | I cant login, cant get to the command line in any way
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| 11:55 | <Gadi> compare the one you get when you dpkg-reconfigure to the one you are trying to copy
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| 11:55 | <vagrantc> Gadi: the main change i noticed was moving /usr/share/ldm/rc.d to $libexec/ldm/rc.d
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| 11:55 | <Nubae> its the same file
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| 11:55 | <vagrantc> Gadi: but i have a branch which adds backwards compatibility for that
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| 11:55 | <Gadi> but, I thought if you dpkg-reconfigure and then startx it works?
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| 11:55 | <Nubae> exactly
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| 11:56 | when I put that exact same file in the chroot under /etc/X11/xorg.conf
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| 11:56 | remake the image and restart the client, the system freezes
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| 11:56 | <vagrantc> Nubae: have you disabled x configuration?
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| 11:56 | Nubae: because that file gets overwritten at boot by default
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| 11:56 | <Nubae> in ltsp-client-core?
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| 11:56 | <Gadi> so, you dpkg-reconfigure, scp the xorg.conf to the server, put it in the chroot, ltsp-update-image, and it fails?
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| 11:56 | <vagrantc> in lts.conf
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| 11:56 | <Nubae> where is that?
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| 11:57 | yes Gadi
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| 11:57 | not only fails, freezes
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| 11:57 | <Gadi> ah, then what vagrantc says is correct
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| 11:57 | <Nubae> yeah I can put it in lts.conf
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| 11:57 | <Gadi> add: X_CONFIG = /etc/X11/xorg.conf
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| 11:57 | to lts.conf
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| 11:57 | <Nubae> that would work
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| 11:57 | <vagrantc> X_CONF
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| 11:57 | <Gadi> sorry
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| 11:57 | X_CONF
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| 11:57 | <vagrantc> or, X_CONF = /some/other/path
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| 11:57 | and copy it there
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| 11:58 | <Nubae> but cant I take out xorg autoconfig from the init?
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| 11:58 | <vagrantc> Nubae: yes, you can.
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| 11:58 | i think it's even documented
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| 11:58 | <Nubae> editting ltsp-client-core?
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| 11:58 | <vagrantc> oh, it's not documented really
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| 11:58 | <Nubae> :-)
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| 11:59 | <vagrantc> Nubae: add CONFIGURE_X=False to lts.conf
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| 11:59 | <Nubae> ahhh
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| 11:59 | now that's a new one =)
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| 12:00 | <vagrantc> too many lts.conf variables ... so little time
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| 12:00 | <Nubae> yeah well, better coding than documenting I say ;-)
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| 12:00 | <Q-FUNK> so many vars. so little time.
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| 12:00 | * vagrantc stands corrected | |
| 12:01 | * vagrantc is always amazed at the crazy things people are trying to do with ltsp | |
| 12:01 | <Nubae> crazy? like what?
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| 12:03 | another little question, I'm assuming fstab is also auto-written by the ltsp startup, where can I set my nfs settings?
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| 12:06 | <Nubae> I need to mount my /home somewhere in the thin client, but if I cant do it in fstab, then where?
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| 12:09 | <vagrantc> Nubae: write a script that mounts it, and point RCFILE_NN to it
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| 12:10 | <Nubae> ok, put it in init.d?
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| 12:11 | <vagrantc> RCFILE_NN=/path/to/some/file
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| 12:11 | Nubae: put it whereever you want.
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| 12:11 | Nubae: just like X_CONF=/path/to/some/xorg.conf
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| 12:12 | <Nubae> ah RCFILE_NN is another lts.conf variable?
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| 12:13 | <vagrantc> yes
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| 12:13 | RCFILE_00, RCFILE_01, RCFILE_02 ...
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| 12:13 | <Nubae> ok, think that should do it then, finally a working thin 'fat' client...
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| 12:13 | thanks for that
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| 12:22 | <Tilllinux> We set up a Ubuntu LTSP in school (on a Ubuntu64 gutsy, with ltsp- --arch=i386 for the clients) however, we did set it up without a graphical frontend/XServer. We tried to boot the pxelinux.0 file with one laptop, which works pretty well, and eventually were able to use the login screen. After login we got an error-message (something with X blabla) so we installed ubuntu-desktop on the server. Now this test-laptop seems to hang somewhere while boo
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| 12:27 | <Nubae> does this script look ok: http://pastebin.com/d7d14f9cb
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| 13:32 | <PMantis> mistik1: Hey there!
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| 13:48 | <cliebow_> PMantis:Hey there!
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| 13:50 | <PMantis> hi cliebow_
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| 13:58 | <PMantis> ahhh, mistik1 sux - he's not right there ready to reply when I want him. :)
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| 14:04 | <cliebow_> PMantis:you have a windows command to set up a system service??something olike sc?
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| 14:12 | <PMantis> Hmmm, in the NT days, there was a resource CD that had a "wrapper" program to run a program as a service.
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| 14:12 | Running something as a service is not as easy under windoze
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| 14:17 | <warren> PMantis, I remember using that wrapper to get cygwin's sshd to work...
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| 14:17 | <PMantis> warren: I haven't used it is quite some time.
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| 14:32 | <cliebow_> sc create lexia binPath= d:\"Program Files"\LexiaServer/LexiaServer.exe start= auto type=own
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| 14:32 | syntax seems fine..bloody thing won't go...GD M$
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| 14:33 | <cliebow_> doesn't get much more ot than this
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| 14:37 | <PMantis> cliebow_: Might be the quotes in the wrong place. Have you checked the event viewer?
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| 14:37 | <cliebow_> give it a whirl
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| 14:38 | not a blessed thing..of course.
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| 14:39 | <cliebow_> WOOT
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| 14:40 | <Pascal_1> hello all !!
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| 14:41 | <cliebow_> moving the quotes did the tricksy
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| 14:50 | PMantis:i owe you for a tall one..and not a blond either 8~)
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| 14:50 | cya...
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| 15:45 | <^Migs^> I'm trying to build an LTSP server to support up to about 40 or 50 clients, and have some specs, but not sure if it's sufficient. Single quad-core processor 2x4MB cache 2.4GHz, 8GB RAM...
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| 15:46 | do I need to go with two processors or anything?
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| 15:46 | and also, would it be a bad idea to run two LTSP servers in VMware?
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| 15:55 | <vagrantc> ^Migs^: see:
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| 15:55 | !serversizing
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| 15:55 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: Error: "serversizing" is not a valid command.
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| 15:55 | <vagrantc> !serversize
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| 15:55 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "serversize" is http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/ServerSizing
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| 16:03 | <^Migs^> cool, thanks
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| 16:25 | <cesar__> hi people
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| 16:26 | I have problem with sound in client terminal
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| 16:27 | in the client It has a CM8738 sound card
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| 16:28 | in the file configuration for this client I have the next configuration
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| 16:28 | SMODULE_01 = cmpci
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| 16:28 | SOUND = Y
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| 16:29 | SOUND_DAEMON = nasd
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| 16:29 | <cesar__> not work with configuration
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| 16:29 | <vagrantc> cesar__: what linux distro ?
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| 16:30 | <cesar__> server distro?
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| 16:30 | <vagrantc> yes
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| 16:30 | <cesar__> Debian
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| 16:30 | <PMantis> ^Migs^: My opinion is one LTSP server in VMWare is fine. However, if you are out of horsepower with one LTSP machine, it probably doesn't help to create two VMs and run it on one server.
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| 16:30 | <cesar__> 2.6.18-5-amd64
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| 16:30 | <vagrantc> cesar__: have you configured it to use nasd ?
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| 16:30 | <PMantis> Hmmm, just missed him.
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| 16:30 | <vagrantc> cesar__: what version of ltsp ?
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| 16:30 | <cesar__> 4.2
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| 16:31 | <vagrantc> cesar__: dpkg -l 'ltsp*' | egrep ^ii
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| 16:31 | <cesar__> ltsp-utils 0.25-1
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| 16:31 | <vagrantc> !sound
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| 16:31 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "sound" is http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Sound
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| 16:31 | <vagrantc> i work on ltsp5 for debian ...
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| 16:32 | !debian
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| 16:32 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "debian" is is a GNU/Linux based operating system that makes an excellent LTSP server. You can find it at http://www.debian.org. for information about LTSP on debian see http://wiki.debian.org/LTSP
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| 16:32 | <cesar__> i try with esd sound daemon
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| 16:32 | and not working
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| 16:34 | when the linux is starting in the terminal client
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| 16:34 | it say
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| 16:35 | Fatal cmpci not found sound driver
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| 16:35 | and then say "the module not load"
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| 16:40 | <cesar__> the message error is "Fatal: Module mcpci not found"
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| 16:42 | "Sound driver not loaded, please especific the correct driver in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf"
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| 16:44 | I search for similar errors in google and not found any similar question/answer
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| 18:16 | <Ryan52> vagrantc: what do you mean the theme?
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| 18:18 | <vagrantc> Ryan52: the look of the login screen. it supports multiple themes, but it would be good (and hopefully fairly simple) to configure it on the fly.
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| 18:18 | <Ryan52> how do you choose the theme now?
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| 18:19 | <vagrantc> Ryan52: looking at the gtkgreet/greeter.c code, i think it only would take making it possible GTKRC_DIR and PIXMAP_DIR settable by an environment variable...
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| 18:20 | Ryan52: currently, you change it with a symlink. but that doesn't allow you to have a different theme for each thin-client ... you can do some crazy stuff to get that working ... but that's another story.
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| 18:20 | <Ryan52> okay
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| 18:21 | <vagrantc> Ryan52: will you be around tomorrow and/or sunday?
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| 18:21 | <Ryan52> tomarrow yes, and sunday I can be.
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| 18:21 | why?
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| 18:21 | <vagrantc> actually, i did just think of a simpler workaround than i was previously doing ... but it still would be nice to have it settable in lts.conf/environment variables
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| 18:21 | Ryan52: just wondering if you wanted to come to the ltsp hackfest :)
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| 18:22 | <Ryan52> I will. What time?
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| 18:22 | <vagrantc> Ryan52: 10:30-whenever saturday ... not sure on the sunday hours
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| 18:22 | <Ryan52> okay. Can you let me in at 10:30 tomarrow?
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| 18:23 | <vagrantc> Ryan52: yeah, i'll be letting in dberkholz around then
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| 18:24 | <Ryan52> should I call when I get there or what...
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| 18:24 | <vagrantc> Ryan52: i'll keep an eye out, and just knock on the meeting room windows if i don't see you
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| 18:24 | <Ryan52> okay
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