IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 11 December 2012 (all times are UTC)
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| 08:03 | <tarzeau> good morning
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| 08:04 | i have an ltsp server on ubuntu 1204 (precise) 64-bit, with ltsp client in /opt/ltsp/i386 for i386 pxe clients... however they only boot into initramfs, what could i do to debug, get it to work?
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| 08:11 | <work_alkisg> !quiet-splash
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| 08:11 | <ltsp> quiet-splash: to disable the splash screen in Ubuntu, in order to see any boot error messages, run sudo gedit /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default and remove quiet splash plymouth:force-splash vt.handoff=7
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| 08:26 | * Hyperbyte yawns | |
| 08:36 | <knipwim> morning Hyperbyte
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| 08:44 | <Hyperbyte> Morning. :)
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| 09:17 | <vicd> Hi. Is LOCALDEV working on 12.04?
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| 09:24 | <vicd> no /etc/udev/rules.d/ltspfsd.rules file, no ltspfsd running
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| 09:58 | <markit> hi, a friend of mine has all clients x86_64. Is it better have a chroot of 32 bit or 64? and the host?
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| 09:58 | I've heard and seen some tests where 64 bit reduce latency and increase performances, but I think eats more memory (in theory, just for integers...)
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| 10:01 | <Hyperbyte> It's simple. You use 64-bit when your processor supports it and 32-bit when it doesn't.
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| 10:03 | If you have a 64-bit capable host, you use a 64-bit os on the host. If you have 64-bit capable clients, you use a 64-bit client chroot.
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| 10:35 | <markit> Hyperbyte: 32 bit are much better tested by ltsp guys, I'm sure
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| 12:07 | <Hyperbyte> markit, why are you so sure?
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| 12:19 | <markit> Hyperbyte: I'm not so sure... lookint some disk transaction benchmark.. 64 bit is 5x better than 32, sigh
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| 12:19 | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_1204_3264&num=2
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| 12:20 | but except of this there is not a big advantage
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| 12:42 | <Hyperbyte> markit, why are you even making an issue out of this?
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| 12:42 | Do you have some special hardware?
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| 13:34 | <markit> Hyperbyte: hi, as I said, I've been asked for a suggestion by a friend
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| 13:34 | so far I've always deployed 32 bit in chroot, since my clients are not 64 bit
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| 13:35 | and following alkisg's suggestion, 32bit pae for the server too
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| 13:54 | <Hyperbyte> Where did alkisg suggest that?
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| 14:33 | <markit> Hyperbyte: because 32 bits saves ram, and if you have to update the server and then the chroot, you can share the same apt cache, with a big bandwidth, time and effort savings
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| 14:33 | (btw, this is the most lagged, not interrupted, conversation I've seen so far in irc ;P))
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| 16:44 | <knipwim> markit: yeah, not much going on here these days
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| 17:28 | <alkisg> Indeed, 1 sentence per hour :D
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| 20:19 | <vagrantc> so, with lightdm on xubuntu 12.04, somehow the login managerdistinguishes between xfce and xubuntu.
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| 20:19 | with LDM, it doesn't seem to be the case.
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| 20:19 | both xfce.desktop and xubuntu.desktop have Exec=startxfce4
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| 20:19 | i think LDM only pays attention to the Exec line, not whatever magic distinguishes the two
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| 20:19 | so even if you select xubuntu, it just logs in with xfce.
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| 20:19 | * vagrantc wonders if lubuntu has similar problems. | |
| 20:20 | <vagrantc> and i really wonder, what magic does lightdm do that makes it work.
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| 20:20 | i haven't tested with newer versions of LDM, which re-worked that code a lot, but i sus pect it has the same problem- it doesn't seem to do anything except run the Exec line.
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| 20:22 | <alkisg> vagrantc: ldm doesn't run /etc/profile*, could that be related?
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| 20:22 | <vagrantc> dunno how
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| 20:22 | <alkisg> By setting env vars or something...
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| 20:23 | <vagrantc> don't see any such vars
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| 20:24 | <alkisg> Not in profile.d/ either, right?
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| 20:24 | <vagrantc> nope
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| 20:25 | <vagrantc> lightdm itself, and presumably other DMs presumably set some env var
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| 21:20 | <vagrantc> i think we may need to set DESKTOP_SESSION
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