IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 19 July 2007 (all times are UTC)
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| 00:57 | <iMav> are there any performance issues with the Symbiont Mini?
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| 00:59 | <dsmith> hi
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| 00:59 | <iMav> howdy
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| 00:59 | <dsmith> so ltsp is like citrix but for linux
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| 01:00 | <iMav> pretty much.
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| 03:00 | <m_pahlevanzadeh> hi
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| 03:00 | i have probelm
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| 03:00 | <iMav> howdy
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| 03:01 | <m_pahlevanzadeh> iMav, i wanna boot from wireless card, Do you have an idea?
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| 03:02 | <iMav> AFAIK, wireless cards don't do PXE booting.
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| 03:03 | <m_pahlevanzadeh> iMav, can i write a module for kernel?
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| 03:03 | <iMav> do you have to use a wireless card, or do you just not havee wired connectivity to the server? (cuz a wired NIC using a wireless bridge should work fine)
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| 03:05 | <m_pahlevanzadeh> iMav, no,i wanna use wireless card
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| 03:06 | iMav, can i implement PXE for wireless card?
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| 03:07 | iMav, Is it FreeCode?
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| 03:09 | <iMav> I don't think LTSP via wireless is viable at this time...
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| 03:09 | <m_pahlevanzadeh> iMav, Do you know same project?
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| 03:17 | What's license of PXE protocol?
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| 03:17 | <iMav> you could boot off a live CD (such as knoppix) which has support for your wireless card...and then "X -query <ip of your LTSP server>
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| 03:17 | it's not a true thin client setup, but would work.
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| 03:20 | <m_pahlevanzadeh> iMav, oh, i wanna start a same project,i wanna implement it.But i don't know that same project was performed or not!
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| 05:37 | <iMav> has anyone used the SYM1110's? (Symbiont Mini)
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| 05:42 | <gvy> m_pahlevanzadeh, google for wifi pxe -- there was something but not really mature
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| 05:43 | <m_pahlevanzadeh> gvy, ty
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| 05:43 | <gvy> btw there's no such thing as a "protocol license" afaik
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| 05:43 | a proto may be patent-encumbered (in loser countries that do swpats) but not licensed itself
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| 06:32 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> mornings
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| 06:33 | <ohmbr> hi... i'm getting "rc.sysinit completd, switching to multi-session mode" and after that nothing happends... what can be?
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| 06:34 | I did remove a inittab file, but i have recreated ... i dont know if is write...
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| 06:34 | can be that?
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| 06:35 | <jammcq> ohmbr: sounds like LTSP-4.2, and you don't have a 'SCREEN_01 = startx' in your lts.conf file
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| 06:35 | oh
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| 06:35 | and you shou'dn't have removed that inittab file. it was supposed to have been a symlink, not a real file
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| 06:35 | that's more likely the problem in your case
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| 06:36 | yeah, that's prolly it
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| 06:37 | <ohmbr> humm... is thare a way to recreate that link?
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| 06:37 | <jammcq> sure
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| 06:37 | remove the file
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| 06:37 | then, do: ln -s /tmp/inittab inittab
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| 06:37 | while you are in the /opt/ltsp/i386/etc directory
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| 06:39 | <ohmbr> jammcq: yep!!! that is it!!! its wotrking now!!
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| 06:39 | thanks a lot!!!!
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| 06:39 | <jammcq> :)
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| 07:12 | <scane> Hi. I have a very old notebook (ibm thinkpad 600E) and a pcmcia networking card. Is there any chance I can make a thinclient boot cd with such a networking card?
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| 07:13 | I want to use it as a thinclient and pxe boot from an edubuntu server directly connected to the card through a lan cable
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| 07:13 | <joebaker> scane: I don't think pcmcia cards work. You could boot a live CD, then start X like
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| 07:14 | this... X :7 -query ltspserver_IP
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| 07:15 | <scane> sounds good
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| 07:15 | <joebaker> My answer is quit old however. Things may have changed. PXEBoot requires some integration between the laptop manufacturer and the nic.
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| 07:15 | There's a space after the X
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| 07:15 | <scane> I have already running xubuntu on the laptop
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| 07:15 | <joebaker> excellent!
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| 07:16 | <scane> so i would close the running local session and start a new one like you said
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| 07:17 | <joebaker> NoMachine is a cool way to connect to your ltsp server also. Persistent sessions, low bandwidth. I've got to leave for work now... Cheers!
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| 07:17 | No
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| 07:17 | I'd fall back to CTRL-ALT-F1
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| 07:17 | <joebaker> then type it there... replace 7 with 8
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| 07:18 | Bye...
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| 07:18 | <scane> ok thank you i will do further inverstigations starting with your information
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| 07:18 | Bye
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| 07:18 | cool
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| 07:38 | <joebaker> scane: I'm back... at work now.
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| 07:40 | scane: there is also a program called xnest to investigate.
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| 08:08 | <Blinny> My 1225e is doing weird things today. It's dropping the network connection for about 1 second every 30 seconds or so.
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| 08:09 | I would suspect slight power issues, but the monitor/keyboard stuff isn't affected. It happened while typing the last sentence, and every character I typed during that short lock surged in after the connection came back.
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| 08:27 | <jammcq> g'morning
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| 08:30 | <ogra> hey jammcq
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| 08:30 | <jammcq> ogra: when are you arriving/departing Portland ?
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| 08:31 | <ogra> sat 20:14
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| 08:31 | departing on wed 8:30
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| 08:36 | <jammcq> hmm
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| 08:37 | ogra: we're arriving around noon on sunday
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| 08:37 | and hanging around until about noon on friday
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| 09:07 | <sbalneav_> Morning all
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| 09:07 | <ogra> !sw
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| 09:07 | <ltspbot> ogra: Error: "sw" is not a valid command.
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| 09:07 | <ogra> bah
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| 09:07 | !s
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| 09:07 | <ltspbot> ogra: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 09:07 | <sbalneav_> hehe
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| 09:08 | How are you, ogra?
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| 09:08 | <ogra> fighting with broken liveCds
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| 09:08 | <sbalneav_> Oh no!
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| 09:08 | Bummer
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| 09:08 | <ogra> yeah
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| 09:09 | i didnt test enough yesterday
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| 09:09 | i dont think anyone did amd64 tests this time either
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| 09:10 | and we have a weird bug where the livefs fills scripts with binary rubbish etc
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| 09:11 | so they dont finish booting
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| 09:11 | <sbalneav_> eurgh
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| 09:13 | <ogra> yeah
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| 09:13 | something changed in the loopdevice handling in intramfs
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| 09:14 | i'm trying to fix that ... but indeed that needs a CD rebuild after every small change
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| 09:14 | very time consuming
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| 09:23 | <whiprush> sbalneav_: jammcq: hey, you guys wanna hang out with some GNOME people in portland?
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| 09:23 | <scane> joebaker, are you still around?
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| 09:24 | <sbalneav_> whiprush:unfortunately, I won't be in Portland
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| 09:24 | <scane> xnest looks amazing.
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| 09:24 | <ogra> whiprush, are there gnome ppl as well ?
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| 09:24 | <whiprush> sbalneav_: dude what? that was like half the reason I was going
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| 09:24 | ogra: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeEvents/PDXMeetup2007
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| 09:24 | pass it around!
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| 09:24 | <ogra> i thought they are all stuck at guadec
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| 09:24 | (with no power and spare network :) )
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| 09:24 | <sbalneav_> My wife's having trouble at work, so I need to be home to help her.
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| 09:25 | <ogra> whiprush, heh, the usual suspects
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| 09:25 | <whiprush> ogra: plenty of people are coming right from birmingham.
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| 09:25 | <ogra> i wont be there at sat (arriving after 8pm)
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| 09:25 | <whiprush> heh.
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| 09:25 | yeah that's why we have 2 parties.
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| 09:25 | <ogra> but i'll see if i can make tuesday
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| 09:26 | <whiprush> ogra: it's open invite, so feel free to invite whoever
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| 09:26 | <ogra> even tuesday is the last evening for most canonical employees, the company might have planned something
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| 09:27 | <whiprush> we'll figure something out
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| 09:43 | <rjune> ogra: Canonical closing?
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| 09:43 | <ogra> ??
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| 09:43 | <rjune> even tuesday is the last evening for most canonical employees, the company might have planned something
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| 09:44 | just seeing that makes it sound like canonical is folding. but that would be odd
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| 09:46 | <whiprush> he means last day of ubuntulive
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| 09:46 | <ogra> rjune, we just rented http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millbank_Tower and the company grew by 100% over the last 8 months
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| 09:47 | unlikely that we'll close during te next years :)
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| 09:48 | <rjune> well, seeing as your funded by an eccentric millionaire
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| 09:50 | wait, the company rented the entire tower?
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| 09:50 | <ogra> nah
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| 09:50 | one floor for the start ;)
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| 09:50 | we still all work from home ...
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| 09:50 | <rjune> also, who do I file a bug report on the vmware package in the commercial aps repo?
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| 09:50 | <ogra> thats mainly admin people sitting there
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| 09:51 | rjune, not sure where bugs for that go, but i heard that fabbione will be caring for that repo now
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| 09:51 | <rjune> the vmware package is flaky
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| 09:52 | <ogra> we had a bunch of vmware people at the sprint last week ...
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| 09:52 | but i'm not involved there s i have no clue what they were there for ...
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| 09:53 | but we're partnering very tightly with vmware, intel and dell ... one would think that things should be smooth :)
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| 09:59 | <sbalneav_> ogra: What's german for beautiful?
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| 10:01 | ah schon
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| 10:13 | <rjune> the o is umlaut
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| 11:13 | <scane> joebaker, thanks a lot for hinting me to xnest - that's would be the way to go for me
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| 11:14 | <joebaker> scane... How does your command line look for Xnest?
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| 11:15 | You're very welcome scane.
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| 11:15 | <scane> :-) i will have to install a new server first that will take a while. No idea yet about the command line
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| 11:16 | <scane> But I thought I'd run xnest on the server
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| 11:16 | <joebaker> scane: Do you run Openvz?
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| 11:17 | I saw you're logged into that channel. Is that like vmware?
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| 11:17 | <scane> joebaker, I am using 2 virtual servers
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| 11:18 | from hosters, and they use virtuozzo
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| 11:18 | <joebaker> I see.
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| 11:19 | <scane> All the guests and the host share the same kernel and they say they have only 1 per cent overhead
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| 11:20 | <mistik1> scane: When done with Xnest, if you need and even better sandbox environment for text x apps try Xephyr
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| 11:20 | <scane> but of course only linux
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| 11:20 | <mistik1> Its the replacement for Xnest but it supports all the latest X extensions like Damage, Xrandr, Composite etc, etc
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| 11:21 | <scane> mistik1, I already stumbled over xephyr recently and I will certainly try both and compare whcih one is faster for my setup
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| 11:21 | <mistik1> And that is even if your host display dont support them
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| 11:21 | ;)
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| 11:40 | <Gadi> ogra: ping
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| 11:43 | <meduxa> hi all, I just wrote an e-mail about ltsp-es that I would want yo to answer to if you have time...thanks
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| 11:44 | <indradg> sbalneav, hi
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| 11:45 | <sbalneav_> indradg: hello
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| 11:45 | <indradg> sbalneav, as suspected, my trouble with local CD-ROM support on 4.2, was due to it being turned off from the BIOS
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| 11:45 | :P
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| 11:46 | <sbalneav_> meduxa: Having support for more languages is a fine idea, did you copy jammcq on the email? I suspect if you're willing to do the work, he'll be happy to let you run with it.
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| 11:46 | indradg: Well, good. Easy fix.
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| 11:47 | <indradg> sbalneav, is the ltspwebcam package available for 4.2 ?
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| 11:47 | <sbalneav_> No idea. I didn't have anything to do with it.
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| 11:47 | <meduxa> first I have to say this idea on the old ltsp-es list to see if people want to swich and collaborate
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| 11:48 | <indradg> sbalneav, ok
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| 11:49 | <meduxa> if I can convice 3 or 4 people, wewill go for it beginning with 1 wiki page and open a mailing list under ltsp domain
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| 11:49 | in spanish
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| 14:56 | <MrChicken> Hello
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| 14:56 | I have two Dell Optiplex GX50
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| 14:56 | but one of them is able to boot ltsp and the other one isnt
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| 14:57 | the latter loads vmlinuz and initrd and dies there
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| 14:58 | what can be happening?
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| 14:58 | ideas?
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| 14:58 | suggestions?
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| 14:58 | flames>
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| 14:58 | ?
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| 15:05 | <MrChicken> hrmmm
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| 15:06 | <jammcq> MrChicken: what version of ltsp ?
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| 15:07 | <MrChicken> 5
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| 15:07 | <jammcq> hmm
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| 15:07 | try setting SCREEN_07 = shell
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| 15:07 | and see what happens
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| 15:08 | <MrChicken> just checked the log
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| 15:08 | it says tfp: client does not support options
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| 15:08 | <jammcq> that's not a problem
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| 15:08 | just part of the tftp negotiation
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| 15:09 | <MrChicken> o so screen_07?
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| 15:09 | <jammcq> SCREEN_07
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| 15:10 | <MrChicken> SCREEN_07=shell
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| 15:11 | and I have a great big amount of nothing happening
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| 15:11 | (same error)
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| 15:11 | <jammcq> how much ram in the client?
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| 15:11 | <MrChicken> it was 256 a min ago
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| 15:11 | just replaced it with 128 2 see what happened
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| 15:12 | <jammcq> maybe it's just a good ole fashioned hardware problem
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| 15:26 | <joebaker> http://netjack.sourceforge.net/ Somebody just showed me this link. Network audio using Jackd.
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| 15:26 | Looks like it needs to be a _VERY_ good network connection though.
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| 15:26 | otherwise stability issues ensue.
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| 15:26 | If I read that page right.
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| 16:26 | <Q-FUNK> what could possibly make LDM fail to launch?
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| 16:26 | I see X start and the X appear, but LDM fails to load.
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| 16:31 | <lmveloso> ogra, ping!
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| 17:09 | <RyanRyan52> I'm trying to set it up and it says: "No up Ethernet interfaces detected!" How do I fix it?
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| 18:13 | <shale_> ok got sound working in rdesktop
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| 18:14 | if anyone wants to verify/test our ltsp5/rdesktop setup, it'd be appreciated!
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| 18:14 | http://akgeeks.net/ltsp-w2k3
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| 19:38 | <akSeya> hi there!!
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| 19:38 | does anyone here already tried to install LTSP 5 on SLackware?
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| 20:35 | <petre> evening all
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| 20:38 | <jammcq> sbalneav: ping
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| 21:19 | <edgarin> Hi
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| 21:19 | hi jammcq
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| 21:19 | jammcq, how are you?
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| 21:20 | <jammcq> hey
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| 21:20 | how's it going?
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| 21:21 | <edgarin> fine thanks! and you?
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| 21:21 | <jammcq> doing great as usual
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| 21:21 | <edgarin> cool!
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| 21:22 | jammcq, I'm working in projects for the mayan people with laboratories with ltsp and the translation of several free software to mayan languages :D!
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| 21:25 | <jammcq> wow, sounds cool
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| 21:35 | <edgarin> jammcq, yes but in this moment I have several problems because in Guatemala I don't have a support for this projects :(
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| 22:52 | <youngun> hey y'all
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| 22:52 | <iMav> howdy
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| 22:52 | <youngun> I need some help if you don't care
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| 22:53 | <iMav> what's up?
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| 22:53 | <youngun> well i don't know if it is firefox or esd or what but hopefully we can find out
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| 22:53 | i have ubuntu 7.04 with ltsp 5.0
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| 22:54 | all the clients play system sounds but will not play out of browsers i do have the flash non-free installed
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| 22:55 | i have a very generic lts.conf file sound=y localdev=y so on
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| 22:55 | and with the distro the clients can not choose to use kde in hopes i could rebuild arts
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| 22:56 | so my question is
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| 22:56 | is it ubuntu the distro
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| 22:56 | the new ltsp
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| 22:56 | flash
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| 22:56 | or firefox
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| 22:57 | <iMav> 32-bit?
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| 22:57 | <youngun> 64
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| 22:57 | I have tried both
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| 22:57 | they do the same thing
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| 22:58 | <iMav> clients are 64-bit as well or just the server?
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| 22:58 | <youngun> server
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| 22:58 | the clients are 32
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| 22:58 | i have two laptos and 2 p4
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| 22:59 | <iMav> if you launch browser from the command line, do you see any reoccuring errors when you try and play sound?
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| 22:59 | <youngun> hmm hold on
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| 23:04 | do you know how to push windows through if the ltsp server is dishing out addys
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| 23:05 | my wife is gung ho bout windows but i have to run her a speacial line to the router
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| 23:05 | <iMav> This thread seems quite applicable to you. http://www.nabble.com/No-Sound-with-Flash-in-Firefox-t4069915.html
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| 23:05 | specifically, "The difference is they aren't using thin clients. Until recently flash
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| 23:05 | didn't work with sound on thin clients, period. Only the most recent flash
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| 23:05 | plugin with extra pulseaudio support added by the revolutionlinux guys
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| 23:05 | solved this.
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| 23:05 | http://pulseaudio.revolutionlinux.com/PulseAudio "
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| 23:18 | <youngun> ok i am trying to build it right now
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| 23:19 | thank you
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| 23:38 | <youngun> it worked thank you so very much
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| 23:38 | <iMav> no problem
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| 23:38 | <youngun> one last question
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| 23:39 | <iMav> shoot
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| 23:39 | <youngun> how do i push a windows box through a linux dhcpd sever?
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| 23:40 | when my wife uses windows it says the network has limited to no connectivity
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| 23:40 | and won't access the net
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| 23:40 | <iMav> The LTSP server is between your windows box and the internet connection?
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| 23:40 | <youngun> yes
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| 23:41 | well no
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| 23:41 | i have a wireless router
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| 23:41 | i have to run her a seacial chord all the way across the house for her windows but i have a switch right next to it for linux
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| 23:42 | <iMav> does the windows system pull an IP from the LTSP[/DHCP] server?
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| 23:42 | <youngun> yes
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| 23:42 | 192.168.0.200
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| 23:43 | <iMav> if the windows box can connect to the router directions, as long as it has the appropriate default route and working DNS, it should be f ine.
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| 23:43 | uhhh "directly"
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| 23:43 | <youngun> right route and dns
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| 23:44 | i have to configure the card in other words
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| 23:44 | <iMav> do you have two NIC's in your LTSP server?
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| 23:44 | <youngun> yes
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| 23:44 | one to connect to the router and one to the clients
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| 23:44 | i would like to get rid of the router though
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| 23:45 | <iMav> so, isn't the windows system pulling an IP from the router?
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| 23:45 | ahh, I see what you are saying.
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| 23:45 | <youngun> it is
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| 23:45 | right now but i would like to pull from linux
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| 23:45 | i have to run a speacila line to the router
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| 23:46 | <iMav> why can't she connect wirelessly to the router?
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| 23:47 | personally, unless there is a compelling reason to ditch the router, my preference would be to keep the router and not make the LTSP server your edge device.
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| 23:48 | <youngun> k
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| 23:49 | the dignal at the back of the house is too low for internet
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| 23:49 | too much junk
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| 23:49 | i will try to run it out side the house lmao
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| 23:50 | <iMav> :)
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| 23:50 | <youngun> I do greatly appreaciate all of your help
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| 23:50 | <iMav> no problem
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| 23:50 | <youngun> gud night
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