IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 30 September 2012 (all times are UTC)
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| 08:17 | <markit> hi, from ldm login to the desktop, the fat client has to load all the desktop environment, correct? anyone can measure network traffic with iftop using gnome?
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| 08:18 | or anyone here using FAT clients that can tell me how fast is from ldm to a responsive desktop?
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| 08:40 | <muppis> markit, yes, fat can be counted as local install, but only booted from network. From login to responsive desktop it mostly depends from network and it's other traffic.
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| 08:41 | One client in 1 Gbps network is really fast and lots of clients in 100 Mbps are... well, slow. :D
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| 08:44 | <markit> muppis: ehm, how much slow? with kde they are slow like hell = unusable
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| 08:45 | with iftop I see 600MB of traffic flowing
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| 08:45 | alkisg told me that with gnome he had 30MB, but now I was thinking that you can't have Gnome be only 30MB of code
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| 08:46 | muppis: do you have the possibility to do this test for me? I mean, go to ldm login in the client, then in the server run iftop -i ethWhatever and tell me the total traffic flown when you have login in the client and the desktop is responsive
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| 08:59 | <Inar> Morniong all... wondered if someone could point me to a "howto-run-sound-on-client-for-localapps" site...
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| 09:02 | Meaning to say - how can I make local apps on the client use the client's audio hardware?
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| 10:21 | <ltspuser_23> hi
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| 10:22 | i am unable to install ltsp
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| 10:22 | can anybody please help me out
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| 10:25 | please
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| 10:25 | help !!
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| 10:26 | <knipwim> ltspuser_23: be patient
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| 10:26 | ltspuser_23: it would also help if you stated what's the problem
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| 10:28 | <ltspuser_23> i had installed the LTSP at centos
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| 10:28 | version 6
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| 10:28 | & when i run the command ltsp-server-tweeks
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| 10:28 | then it gives me error
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| 10:29 | <knipwim> ltspuser_23: i don't know that command (using Gentoo), but perhaps someone else
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| 10:29 | ltspuser_23: not everyone here is fully active in the weekend on this channel
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| 10:29 | <ltspuser_23> please provide mr steps for Gentoo too
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| 10:30 | <knipwim> well, Gentoo doesn't have the ltsp-server-tweeks command
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| 10:30 | so, i don't know what it does
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| 10:30 | <ltspuser_23> then what it is
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| 10:30 | pls let me knw the steps for gentoo
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| 10:30 | <knipwim> in fact, it's not an "official" ltsp command
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| 10:31 | http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/LTSP
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| 10:32 | you can find other distro docs via the ltsp wiki: http://wiki.ltsp.org
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| 10:32 | ltspuser_23: I gotta run now, have to get breakfast
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| 10:32 | good luck
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| 10:32 | <ltspuser_23> bbye
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| 10:32 | thanxx
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| 11:20 | <muppis> markit, I think my data is not comparable. Less than 5 MB with 2 logins, with Unity 2D and Gnome Shell. o.0
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| 11:44 | <markit> muppis: how can it be?
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| 11:44 | muppis: I mean, if you run gnome from hard disk, I don't think that the whole gnome DE is just 2.5MB of code
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| 11:44 | <muppis> I know.
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| 11:45 | <markit> I ask because I want to post in kde dev the problem, but seems to me that I'm missing something
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| 11:45 | <muppis> I launched my htpc, which autologins and launches xbmc as local-apps, it took less than 150 MB and it's a fat client.
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| 11:45 | <markit> muppis: but you had 5 mb with 2 fat client with gnome?
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| 11:46 | you measured from ldm login to DE working? (and why you tested with 2?)
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| 11:47 | <muppis> I measured From LDM to DE and tried twice with same client beacuse could not believe it. :)
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| 11:47 | *because
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| 11:48 | I even dropped DirectX to false.
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| 11:49 | Which doesn't seems to have any effect in fats.
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| 11:51 | <markit> muppis: could you please reboot the fat client? maybe it cached something locally
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| 11:52 | iftop on the bottom left shows TOTAL... is the value you reported me?
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| 11:52 | sorry to ask, but seems too low! Alkisg told me about 35MB but seems few for a DE, and 5MB seems impossible
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| 11:55 | <muppis> markit, that's the value what I've reported.
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| 11:55 | Now I booted as thin and got 61 MB
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| 12:03 | <markit> much better
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| 12:03 | and in any case 5-10 times better than kde
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| 12:05 | muppis: thanks a lot for the test
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| 13:40 | <markit> anyone knows how ssh in a fat client (that is in LDM stage). I've added a password to root in chroot
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| 13:41 | but when I ssh into it, I get an Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer
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| 13:47 | I've changed ssh_config, but now I got Connection closed by 192.168.20.103
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| 22:25 | <cliebow_> #seen jammcq
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| 22:25 | <vagrantc> !seen jammcq
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| 22:25 | <ltsp> jammcq was last seen in #ltsp 1 week, 3 days, 4 hours, 55 minutes, and 14 seconds ago: <jammcq> err... hello friends
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| 22:26 | <cliebow_> !seen sbalneav
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| 22:26 | <ltsp> sbalneav was last seen in #ltsp 14 weeks, 2 days, 7 hours, 38 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <sbalneav> Looks like crap right now, but it's actively parsing the XML, and at least getting some structure out there.
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| 22:27 | <cliebow_> heh
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