IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 16 September 2016 (all times are UTC)
| 00:00 | <bwmarcus> thanks. will back it up and start exploring it more. thanks for answering, appreciated.
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| 06:32 | <alkisg> !ram
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| 06:32 | <ltsp> I do not know about 'ram', but I do know about these similar topics: 'lts-parameters', 'lowram-initramfs', 'server-ram'
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| 06:32 | <alkisg> !server-ram
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| 06:32 | <ltsp> server-ram: LTSP server RAM *really* depends on the usage. But anyway here's an approximation: Server RAM in MB = 1500 + 30*number-of-fat-clients + 300*number-of-thin-clients
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| 07:16 | <al-geo> cyberorg thank you for helping me. this is clien screen (i texted it) http://paste.opensuse.org/87040722
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| 07:17 | in var/log/messages no new lines after i reboot client.
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| 07:18 | <cyberorg> al-geo, is 192.168.50.10 correct server IP?
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| 07:19 | * cyberorg waves @ alkisg | |
| 07:20 | <al-geo> yes its my suse13.2
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| 07:22 | <alkisg> Good morning cyberorg :)
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| 07:22 | <cyberorg> hmm, then you should see requests for files in server log, is there no way that server can get to internet?
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| 07:23 | <alkisg> al-geo, where is your TFTP dir? E.g. in /var/lib/tftpboot?
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| 07:24 | Somewhere there there's pxelinux.cfg/default, and it probably points to boot/linux, and that last file doesn't exist in TFTP
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| 07:24 | I.e. it sounds like a broken setup
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| 07:25 | <cyberorg> al-geo, pastebin ll /srv/tftpboot/boot and cat /srv/tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/default
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| 07:26 | yes, ltsp does not request boot/linux
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| 07:27 | al-geo, also pastebin rpm -qa|grep ltsp
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| 07:31 | <cyberorg> alkisg, we(me and couple of friends) have just launched a startup here, http://myscoolserver.com/ hopefully if all goes well then we may hire developers to work on ltsp in a year's time
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| 07:31 | <al-geo> just a second please
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| 07:32 | <cyberorg> alkisg, to work on ubuntu ltsp, that is
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| 07:40 | <al-geo> http://paste.opensuse.org/41185171 this is all
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| 07:40 | here
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| 07:42 | <cyberorg> al-geo, rm /srv/tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/default and run kiwi-ltsp -c
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| 07:43 | then cat /srv/tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/default proper one should be created by that command
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| 07:44 | then boot your client
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| 07:46 | <zsdregas> Καλημέρα! Θέλουμε να εγκαταστήσουμε LTSP Ubuntu σε server που έχει ήδη windows 10.
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| 07:46 | Κάτι με το uefi μας προβληματίζει...
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| 07:55 | <muppis> !greek
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| 07:55 | <ltsp> greek: Στο παρόν κανάλι μιλάνε μόνο Αγγλικά, για υποστήριξη στα Ελληνικά από την υπηρεσία Τεχνικής Στήριξης ΣΕΠΕΗΥ διαβάστε το http://ts.sch.gr/wiki/IRC και στη συνέχεια πληκτρολογήστε /j #ts.sch.gr
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| 07:55 | <al-geo> cyberorg progress was great :) ltsp welcome menu i chose i386 but just tumbleweed icon and than black screen with blinking cursor and after 1-2 minutes restarts
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| 07:56 | <cyberorg> al-geo, pastebin /srv/kiwi-ltsp/ and ps ax|grep vblade
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| 07:56 | <al-geo> in var/log messages still nothing
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| 07:57 | <cyberorg> ll /srv/kiwi-ltsp/
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| 07:58 | you can also select "debug" from boot menu to see what goes on in client
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| 07:58 | <al-geo> http://paste.opensuse.org/7555717
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| 07:59 | debug doing nothing like other 4. just local-boot reboots
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| 08:00 | on my client there is no hdd (maby its important)
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| 08:00 | <cyberorg> hdd is not needed, debug should show debug messages on client screen and give you shell when boot fails instead of reboot
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| 08:02 | <al-geo> after pressing enter it blinks and again same screen
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| 08:03 | earlier while testing on EDU there was debug and i did try to fix something but i failed
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| 08:03 | <cyberorg> ok, ln -s /srv/tftpboot/boot/initrd-i386 /srv/tftpboot/boot/initrd-ltsp && ln -s /srv/tftpboot/boot/linux-i386 /srv/tftpboot/boot/linux-ltsp
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| 08:04 | <cyberorg> then reboot in debug mode
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| 08:13 | <alkisg> cyberorg: that's very nice!!! Hope it works out for you!!!
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| 08:14 | cyberorg: you may even have use for sch-scripts, our computer lab administration tool (managing users and ltsp server)
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| 10:35 | <cyberorg> alkisg, thanks :)
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| 11:18 | <administrador> hola
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| 11:47 | <al-geo> cyberorg on client in debug mode there is only /var/log/boot.kiwi and only errors i find in it is some dhcp errors : Failed to setup DHCP interface !
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| 11:49 | should i start over? reinstall 42.1 and start from beginning?
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| 12:00 | <cyberorg> al-geo, do you have different client to test?
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| 12:01 | it could be your client NIC kernel module missing, you can get boot.kiwi on usb stick and pastebin it to know for sure
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| 12:29 | <darkend> good morning to everyone here. I need someone to help me solve a couple of problems that come presenting the images of my thin clients. A couple of days went to ltsp-chroot and update the libreoffice image. Then I made a ltsp-update -sshkeys; ltsp-update-kernels and ltsp-update -image. When I turn on the thin clients icons directories are not visible, only the desktop icons can be seen. Any idea that could go wrong and how to fix it?
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| 12:52 | <alkisg> darkend: switch to ltsp-pnp? :)
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| 12:52 | !ltsp-pnp
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| 12:52 | <ltsp> ltsp-pnp: ltsp-pnp is an alternative (upstream) method to maintain LTSP installations for thin and fat clients that doesn't involve chroots: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
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| 12:52 | <alkisg> If maintaining a chroot with all its weird things becomes difficult... then better to do it graphically from the normal user interface
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| 12:56 | <muppis> Ok... Localapps works in Gnome Classic, but not in LXDE, installed in Ubuntu 14.04
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| 13:02 | <alkisg> muppis: maybe lxde doesn't respect the XDG variables?
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| 13:03 | <muppis> Looks like.
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| 13:06 | <alkisg> localapps is a fragile technology.. only good for a few use cases
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| 13:07 | <muppis> Like vlc and web..
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| 13:07 | Where both are needed in this case.
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| 13:08 | <alkisg> Why would someone have vlc and web as localapps instead of the whole session?
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| 13:08 | In which use case the web can run locally and the session cannot?
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| 13:11 | <muppis> I started to think about it. Could be more useful run all things locally. Wish I could have time to test.
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| 13:11 | <alkisg> For me, thin clients make more sense only when you have ancient clients with 256 mb ram and can't upgrade it
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| 13:14 | <muppis> I need to run some tests next week, if I have some spare time.
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| 13:14 | but now off for a weekend.
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| 13:14 | <alkisg> Setting up ltsp-pnp takes about 1 hour
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| 13:14 | bb :)
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| 13:14 | (along with the os, that is; otherwise just 10 minutes)
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| 14:08 | <MeLLy> Can someone help me? We are running Debian 8 on LTSP 5. We are having an issue that when users log out, sometimes they still have a process running for systemd. This creates an issue when they log back in they have more than one session opened. Is there a workaround for this?
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| 14:08 | I have tried using LDM_LIMIT_ONE_SESSION = True but that didn't seem to solve the issue
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| 14:29 | <alkisg> MeLLy: are you using thin or fat clients?
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| 14:29 | And, which process is that? Maybe you can google about the proper way to make it exit...
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| 14:30 | <MeLLy> It's: /lib/systemd/systemd --user & (sd-pam)
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| 14:31 | My systems admin says he has a workaround, I just wanted to make sure there wasn't a directive to put into the lts.conf possibly that I was missing
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| 14:31 | We are using thin clients
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| 14:33 | <alkisg> In general, lts.conf doesn't mess with the server-side of things
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| 14:33 | systemd --user is actually the user session
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| 14:33 | So it's probably waiting for something else to finish, before it considers the session ended and exits
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| 14:34 | <MeLLy> Ahhhh, I gotcha. I didn't think about that.
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| 19:18 | <adrianorg> Hi! I'm testing firefox as a localapp on a thin client, on Debian 8. Is it possible to make firefox, as a localapp, invoke a "non-localapp" as an external viewer? Say, firefox would invoke libreoffice when a link to an .odt file is clicked on firefox, but only firefox is a localapp, libreoffice runs on the server.
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