thanks. will back it up and start exploring it more. thanks for answering, appreciated.
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I do not know about 'ram', but I do know about these similar topics: 'lts-parameters', 'lowram-initramfs', 'server-ram'
server-ram: LTSP server RAM *really* depends on the usage. But anyway here's an approximation: Server RAM in MB = 1500 + 30*number-of-fat-clients + 300*number-of-thin-clients
cyberorg thank you for helping me. this is clien screen (i texted it) http://paste.opensuse.org/87040722
in var/log/messages no new lines after i reboot client.
al-geo, is 192.168.50.10 correct server IP?
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yes its my suse13.2
Good morning cyberorg :)
hmm, then you should see requests for files in server log, is there no way that server can get to internet?
al-geo, where is your TFTP dir? E.g. in /var/lib/tftpboot?
Somewhere there there's pxelinux.cfg/default, and it probably points to boot/linux, and that last file doesn't exist in TFTP
I.e. it sounds like a broken setup
al-geo, pastebin ll /srv/tftpboot/boot and cat /srv/tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/default
yes, ltsp does not request boot/linux
al-geo, also pastebin rpm -qa|grep ltsp
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alkisg, we(me and couple of friends) have just launched a startup here, http://myscoolserver.com/ hopefully if all goes well then we may hire developers to work on ltsp in a year's time
just a second please
alkisg, to work on ubuntu ltsp, that is
http://paste.opensuse.org/41185171 this is all
al-geo, rm /srv/tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/default and run kiwi-ltsp -c
then cat /srv/tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/default proper one should be created by that command
then boot your client
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Καλημέρα! Θέλουμε να εγκαταστήσουμε LTSP Ubuntu σε server που έχει ήδη windows 10.
Κάτι με το uefi μας προβληματίζει...
greek: Στο παρόν κανάλι μιλάνε μόνο Αγγλικά, για υποστήριξη στα Ελληνικά από την υπηρεσία Τεχνικής Στήριξης ΣΕΠΕΗΥ διαβάστε το http://ts.sch.gr/wiki/IRC και στη συνέχεια πληκτρολογήστε /j #ts.sch.gr
cyberorg progress was great :) ltsp welcome menu i chose i386 but just tumbleweed icon and than black screen with blinking cursor and after 1-2 minutes restarts
al-geo, pastebin /srv/kiwi-ltsp/ and ps ax|grep vblade
in var/log messages still nothing
you can also select "debug" from boot menu to see what goes on in client
debug doing nothing like other 4. just local-boot reboots
on my client there is no hdd (maby its important)
hdd is not needed, debug should show debug messages on client screen and give you shell when boot fails instead of reboot
after pressing enter it blinks and again same screen
earlier while testing on EDU there was debug and i did try to fix something but i failed
ok, ln -s /srv/tftpboot/boot/initrd-i386 /srv/tftpboot/boot/initrd-ltsp && ln -s /srv/tftpboot/boot/linux-i386 /srv/tftpboot/boot/linux-ltsp
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then reboot in debug mode
cyberorg: that's very nice!!! Hope it works out for you!!!
cyberorg: you may even have use for sch-scripts, our computer lab administration tool (managing users and ltsp server)
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alkisg, thanks :)
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cyberorg on client in debug mode there is only /var/log/boot.kiwi and only errors i find in it is some dhcp errors : Failed to setup DHCP interface !
should i start over? reinstall 42.1 and start from beginning?
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al-geo, do you have different client to test?
it could be your client NIC kernel module missing, you can get boot.kiwi on usb stick and pastebin it to know for sure
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good morning to everyone here. I need someone to help me solve a couple of problems that come presenting the images of my thin clients. A couple of days went to ltsp-chroot and update the libreoffice image. Then I made a ltsp-update -sshkeys; ltsp-update-kernels and ltsp-update -image. When I turn on the thin clients icons directories are not visible, only the desktop icons can be seen. Any idea that could go wrong and how to fix it?
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darkend: switch to ltsp-pnp? :)
ltsp-pnp: ltsp-pnp is an alternative (upstream) method to maintain LTSP installations for thin and fat clients that doesn't involve chroots: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
If maintaining a chroot with all its weird things becomes difficult... then better to do it graphically from the normal user interface
Ok... Localapps works in Gnome Classic, but not in LXDE, installed in Ubuntu 14.04
muppis: maybe lxde doesn't respect the XDG variables?
localapps is a fragile technology.. only good for a few use cases
Like vlc and web..
Where both are needed in this case.
Why would someone have vlc and web as localapps instead of the whole session?
In which use case the web can run locally and the session cannot?
I started to think about it. Could be more useful run all things locally. Wish I could have time to test.
For me, thin clients make more sense only when you have ancient clients with 256 mb ram and can't upgrade it
I need to run some tests next week, if I have some spare time.
but now off for a weekend.
Setting up ltsp-pnp takes about 1 hour
(along with the os, that is; otherwise just 10 minutes)
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Can someone help me? We are running Debian 8 on LTSP 5. We are having an issue that when users log out, sometimes they still have a process running for systemd. This creates an issue when they log back in they have more than one session opened. Is there a workaround for this?
I have tried using LDM_LIMIT_ONE_SESSION = True but that didn't seem to solve the issue
MeLLy: are you using thin or fat clients?
And, which process is that? Maybe you can google about the proper way to make it exit...
It's: /lib/systemd/systemd --user & (sd-pam)
My systems admin says he has a workaround, I just wanted to make sure there wasn't a directive to put into the lts.conf possibly that I was missing
We are using thin clients
In general, lts.conf doesn't mess with the server-side of things
systemd --user is actually the user session
So it's probably waiting for something else to finish, before it considers the session ended and exits
Ahhhh, I gotcha. I didn't think about that.
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Hi! I'm testing firefox as a localapp on a thin client, on Debian 8. Is it possible to make firefox, as a localapp, invoke a "non-localapp" as an external viewer? Say, firefox would invoke libreoffice when a link to an .odt file is clicked on firefox, but only firefox is a localapp, libreoffice runs on the server.
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