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02:06 | <astroboy> Hmm .. gdm fails with /var/log/gdm/:0.log message "(EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable
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02:06 | ", previously "(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
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02:06 | "
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02:09 | .. followed by 5 nested lines.
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02:10 | like " xkb_keycodes { include "xfree86+aliases(qwerty)" };
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02:10 | "
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02:12 | .. comment out section "DRI" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
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02:16 | No comment ? OK, here goes .. reboot ..
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05:31 | <bip> i need some help dealing with multiple dhcp servers ...
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05:31 | i an testing some ltsp servers as virtual machines in their own separate virtual network ...
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05:32 | but now i d love to insetr em into my phyisical netowork to do some further testing
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05:32 | but i have 2 issues to fix:
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05:33 | 1 how to convert from a dual nic setup to a single one setup
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05:33 | 2 how i can keep runnin a dhcp server on my gateway machine and on my ltsp machine w/out conflicts
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05:37 | <cliebow_> gateway is a windows b ox? or a router?
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09:01 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> g'morning 4 * #ltsp
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09:08 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> hi friends!!!
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09:09 | have problems with users :(
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09:10 | have problem with some pendrives and sistem file system.. someones catch it! ok . and other no...
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09:10 | <zald> how do i customize the applications on each ltsp clients?
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09:16 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> someone please help me with this... take a look -> http://pastebin.ca/382333
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09:51 | <viking-ice> whats the diffrence between PXEclient & Etherboot?
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09:52 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> boot mode?
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10:01 | <zald> hello, when i plug my usb printer on my thin client this is the message on shell prompt 'new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4; usb 202: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice; drivers/usb/class/usblp.c; usblp0; usb bidirectional printer dev 4 '
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10:02 | <zald> how do i add that printer on my printer admin on my gnome environment?
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10:07 | <sbalneav> Morning all
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10:17 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> sbalneav: morning
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10:19 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> sbalneav: why you think about this ? http://pastebin.ca/382333
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10:30 | <sbalneav> sh3mh4mf0r4sh: The pen drive is unpartitioned.
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10:30 | i.e. it's formatted as /dev/sda, instead of fdisking it, and formatting /dev/sda1
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10:30 | fdisk the pendrive, and format it for fat.
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10:31 | <pscheie> hey sbalneav, how was Toronto?
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10:31 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> sbalneav: but my linux box works ok with this pendrive type
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10:32 | <sbalneav> Sure
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10:32 | but ltsp doesn't support unpartitioned pen drives.
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10:32 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> then?
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10:32 | users why they to?
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10:33 | do?
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10:33 | <sbalneav> Like I say: partition and format the pen drive.
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10:33 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> how?
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10:33 | <sbalneav> Either on a windows box, or on a linux box.
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10:33 | <zald> hi i have an ltsp thin client , when i attached my usb printer it does saying 'new full speed USB device detected', how do i install it on my gnome environment? i try printer-manager using locally-conneted,ipp,lpd,smb,ncp its not working
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10:33 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> i do that and nothing
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10:34 | <sbalneav> zald: CHeck the wiki.
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10:34 | !wiki
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10:34 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: "wiki" is the LTSP wiki. You can find it at http://wiki.ltsp.org
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10:34 | <sbalneav> we've got a section on printing.
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10:34 | <bricode> What a nice bot.
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10:35 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> sbalneav: i save all files on that pen drive i formated on windows i copy again the files inside and the client ltsp keep going unrecognize :|
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10:36 | the navigatio room have 50% users with this problem
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10:36 | other 50% works they flash(s)
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10:36 | <sbalneav> but exist others pen drives when are mounted system not recognize and have this list by shell Disk /dev/sda: 131 MB, 131070976 bytes
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10:36 | You said /dev/sda
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10:36 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> it's same
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10:36 | <sbalneav> a drive that's formatted /dev/sda is unpartitioned.
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10:36 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> look
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10:37 | my linux is mounted by sda1
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10:37 | in the server
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10:37 | <sbalneav> some pen drives have this volumes and can see by clients ltsp Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 1 9589 77023611 83 FAT32
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10:37 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> was by sdb1
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10:37 | <sbalneav> right.
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10:37 | a drive with an /dev/sda1 will work
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10:37 | a drive with no partition table shows up as /dev/sda
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10:38 | the '1' indicates that it's the first partition
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10:39 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> sbalneav: yes i know that about '1'
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10:39 | but why out many partitions what i do?
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10:39 | formated?!
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10:39 | i do that and nothing
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10:41 | <sbalneav> you need to do this
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10:41 | in the server
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10:41 | as root
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10:41 | fdisk /dev/sda
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10:42 | <Blinny> I hope his server isn't scsi
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10:42 | ('course, I can see from the pastes that no worries, but heh)
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10:42 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> sbalneav: what does that?
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10:42 | <sbalneav> He's giving me an example of /dev/sda for his memory stick.
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10:43 | partition the memory stick
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10:43 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> sbalneav: but users can't erease the contentss
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10:43 | <sbalneav> sh3mh4mf0r4sh: I'll re-iterate
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10:43 | LTSP 4.2 doesn't support unpartitioned memory sticks.
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10:43 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> 5.0 have?
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10:44 | <sbalneav> so if you have an unpartitioned memory stick, it won't work in 4.2
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10:44 | 5.0 does.
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10:45 | <pscheie> I didn't realize 5.0 supported unpartitioned usb sticks; how does it manage that?
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10:45 | isn't the F in fuse for filesystem?
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10:46 | <sbalneav> 5.0 uses a newer udev with better rules.
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10:46 | <pscheie> does it allow the user for partition the usb stick?
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10:46 | at the client I mean
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10:46 | <sbalneav> No
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10:47 | it's just a mount. you can't do formatting, cd burning, etc.
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10:47 | <pscheie> ok, now I'm really confused: don't you need a filesystem on the stick in order to use it?
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10:47 | <sbalneav> yes
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10:47 | you can have a filesystem on /dev/sda
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10:47 | it's UNPARTITIONED, not UNFORMATTED
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10:48 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> sbalneav: sbalneav ok... have to test in other pc to install 5.0 ver and test that with pendrives..
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10:48 | <pscheie> ok, one learns something new every day
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10:48 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> while i fix in the real server upgrade version
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10:48 | to change again
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10:48 | and not stop the service
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10:48 | <pscheie> I thought filesystems had to be contained within partitions
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10:49 | <sbalneav> Nope, you can put a filesystem on a whole drive, but then, you only get ONE filesystem on a drive.
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10:49 | partitioning allows you to have MULTIPLE filesystems on a drive.
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10:51 | <pscheie> I always thought the two were related, that to have a filesystem, there had to be a partition even if it consumed the whole drive
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10:51 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> sbalneav: so my solution is upgrade 4.2 to 5.0 version
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10:52 | <skyadmin> hi all
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10:55 | <AMSmith42> The home page says that LTSP can run applications from both Linux and Windows servers. What method does it use to run Windows apps? Emulation? Dual boot?
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10:56 | <jammcq> rdesktop
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10:56 | <AMSmith42> Thanks.
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10:56 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> tsclient
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10:56 | <jammcq> ltsp doesn't actually run any apps. it's the servers that run the apps
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10:56 | <AMSmith42> Yes, thank you for the correction.
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10:57 | <AMSmith42> With rdesktop, one still needs a Windows TS and applicable licenses, correct?
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10:57 | <jammcq> probably
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10:57 | <AMSmith42> In order to run more than one desktop on the Windows server, that is.
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10:57 | <jammcq> dunno about such things
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10:58 | I completely avoid those types of things
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10:58 | <AMSmith42> No problem. Thank you for your help.
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11:00 | <AMSmith42> I'm a victim of circumstance, or I'd avoid it as well.
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11:01 | <zald> sbalneav: i already did put the PRINTER_0_TYPE = U, PRINTER_0_DEVICEPRINTER_0_DEVICE, MODULE_01 = usblp, under /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf, but still the thin client wasnt able to install the usb printer although it is detected when i plug it on the workstation
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11:02 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall <- fix some words?
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11:02 | <zald> * PRINTER_0_DEVICE = /dev/usb/lp0
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11:05 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> ltsp website said ltsp integrin excellent with ubuntu edgy
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11:05 | have here 2 isos
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11:05 | desktop and alternative..
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11:05 | what i installed like server
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11:05 | to install ltsp 5?
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11:11 | <sbalneav> alternative
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11:13 | <jammcq> GodFather: hey
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11:14 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> thanxs
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11:14 | i test that 5
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11:15 | ermm other things.. dhcp can works with 1eth?
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11:15 | i mean
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11:15 | eth0 only physical ethernet
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11:15 | and type
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11:15 | eth0:1 to clients?
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11:15 | and eth0 for internet?
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11:15 | <GodFather> jammcq, u bak
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11:15 | <jammcq> yep
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11:24 | <ogra> jammcq, sbalneav, pong pong
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11:24 | <jammcq> hey
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11:24 | look who's still around
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11:27 | <zald> arg i still cant run my usb printer :(
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11:36 | <sol> hey, pulseaudio and flashplayer 9.0.31.0? how do u get it to work?
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11:44 | <PMantis> jammcq, ping
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11:44 | <jammcq> PMantis: hey
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11:45 | <PMantis> jammcq, # up2date tzdata
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11:45 | This system may not be updated until it is associated with a channel.
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11:45 | jammcq, I thought I updated webserver
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11:45 | <jammcq> PMantis: not here, priv chan plz
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11:58 | <cliebow> Hallooo ltsp!
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11:58 | <vagrantc> i can't speak for ltsp as a whole, but hello :)
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11:58 | <cliebow> 8~)
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12:05 | yikes! my laptop hard drivedied..
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12:06 | <vagrantc> mine's been dying for a remarkable ... 9 months!
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12:06 | <cliebow> used it all morning..put it in the car..needed at Lamoinr..No grub..weord noises intewrnally
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12:07 | <vagrantc> time to move to compact flash drives.
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12:13 | <Patina> You can get a flash disk intended for military use, so it should be very reliable, 90GB only USD40,000
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12:13 | (thats fourty thousand dollars)
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12:14 | <cliebow> hmm..maybe ill wait til ghenry snds the 20 million in small bills he promised
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12:15 | <sol> flashplayer on thin client? anyone?
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12:15 | with pulseaudio
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12:20 | <mistik1> Will people ever read?
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13:09 | <Blinny> My $LD_PRELOAD environmental variable contains: "/usr/lib/libesd.so.0:/usr/lib/libesddsp.so.0" which is causing errors when starting a terminal. I've googled and only found three semi-relevant links -- is this a common issue? It seems to have started today, no doubt because of something I changed.
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13:11 | I'm guessing this has something to do with Erik's ESD hacks in K12LTSP
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13:12 | <Blinny> Ah, yes. It's from setting REMOTE_SOUND_HACKS to 'yes' in /etc/sysconfig/k12ltsp, enabling the use of non-esd apps to use esd
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13:12 | er
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13:13 | :s;the use of;;
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13:27 | <KeepWalking_> hola...
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13:28 | <mistik1> como estas KeepWalking_
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13:28 | <KeepWalking_> pregunta, yo tengo fuse en el server, si en un cliente deseo montar el fd0 como lo hago? con ltspfs dev mountdir ?
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13:30 | <vagrantc> KeepWalking_: que distro de linux ?
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13:31 | <KeepWalking_> vagrantc: edubuntu en este caso
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13:31 | <vagrantc> KeepWalking_: edgy o feisty o dapper ?
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13:32 | <KeepWalking_> 6.10 edgy
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13:34 | vagrantc: estas?
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13:35 | <vagrantc> tengo problemas con mi disco duro ...
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13:35 | lo siento
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13:39 | <KeepWalking_> ok, me puedes ayudar o en otro momento_
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13:39 | ?
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13:48 | <vagrantc> ogra: do you know if floppy drives are working with ltspfs?
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13:48 | ogra: in edgy?
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13:48 | tiagovaz: hi :)
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13:48 | <tiagovaz> vagrantc, hey
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13:49 | <vagrantc> KeepWalking_: ogra trabaja en edubuntu y ltsp
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13:51 | <vagrantc> KeepWalking_: creo que problemas con ltspfs y fd0 en edgy ... pero no estoy seguro.
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13:54 | <tiagovaz> vagrantc, i didnt know you speak spanish. Next time i will speak portguese with you
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13:54 | <vagrantc> tiagovaz: heh. i'm listening to some portuguese music right now :)
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13:54 | tiagovaz: i studied spanish for a couple weeks after debconf in guatemala
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13:55 | <tiagovaz> vagrantc, nice!
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14:38 | <ltspbot> One: rjune was last seen in #ltsp 1 week, 2 days, 14 hours, 19 minutes, and 48 seconds ago: <rjune> cliebow_:
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14:47 | <cliebow> Scottie is here!!!!!!!!!
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15:45 | <Mighty-D> hi, does anyone has worked with qmail?
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15:54 | <mistik1> That's a little off topic here Mighty-D
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15:54 | what is the qmail question anyway?
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15:59 | <Mighty-D> i had the smtp working, but no it isnt
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15:59 | i know is off topic mistik1, but i haven't find any clue of whats going on... and i dont know where to ask
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16:10 | <mistik1> Mighty-D: ask in #qmail
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16:11 | I know qmail but there are much to many ways to configure it for me to answer with any degree of acuracy
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18:31 | <jammcq> hello all
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18:32 | <mistik1> Hey Jim
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18:33 | <jammcq> hey
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18:35 | <mistik1> still running strong with my new kernel
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18:36 | <jammcq> cool, I tried the latest driver, it didn't clear up my problem
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18:36 | <mistik1> bummer
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18:36 | <jammcq> I'll get over it
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18:37 | i'll prolly switch to an nvidia card
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18:37 | if it'll fit in the chassis
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18:37 | <mistik1> I would if I could believe me
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18:37 | I did not want this ATI in this laptop but I got it at a super deal sans the nvidia
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18:38 | $700 bux is hard to turn down for a new amd64 dual core laptop with 1Gig ram
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18:39 | Got one other treat with this new kernel too, my hdd LEDs work ;)
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20:05 | <sbalneav> Evening all
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20:06 | <jammcq> Scotty SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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20:06 | * sbalneav smashes typewriter | |
20:06 | <sbalneav> :)
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20:07 | I'm hanging out in #dbus for a few minutes, gonna bug some people in there :)
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20:07 | <jammcq> sbalneav: you should configure your gaim client to pop up a new window when you get private messages
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20:07 | <vagrantc> evenin
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20:09 | <cliebow_> /join #dbus
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20:10 | <cliebow_> Steve!!!!!!!!!!
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20:13 | <sbalneav> Hello PMantis
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20:13 | <PMantis> Hi sbalneav!!!
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20:24 | <jammcq> ogra: ping
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20:29 | <vagrantc> !seen ogra
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20:29 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: ogra was last seen in #ltsp 9 hours, 4 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: <ogra> jammcq, sbalneav, pong pong
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20:32 | <knight> hi
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20:32 | all
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20:32 | <sbalneav> Hello
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20:54 | <kcbanner> I'm trying to install LTSP on my server
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20:54 | but the problem is the ltspcfg script says tftpd ins't installed
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20:54 | even though it is
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20:57 | <jammcq> kcbanner: what distro?
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20:57 | <kcbanner> jammcq, Arch Linux
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20:57 | its in /usr/sbin/tftpd perhaps the script doesn't look there?
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20:57 | <jammcq> hmm, ltspcfg doesn't know anything about Arch, so it's having a hard time figuring it out. don't worry about it, and just configure tftpd yourself
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20:58 | <kcbanner> ah ok, so it wont stop me
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20:58 | cool
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21:20 | <KeepWalking_> buenas noches
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21:22 | <sbalneav> Hello
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21:22 | <KeepWalking_> sbalneav: hi
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21:24 | <petre> evening all
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21:25 | <KeepWalking_> petre: evening
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22:50 | <Bhaskar> we develope Nepalinux based on debian, we want to add LTSP package , so where can i find the necessary package and how to integrate this package? can anyone help me with smile
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22:51 | <mistik1> !ltsp5
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22:51 | <ltspbot> mistik1: "ltsp5" is (#1) The next version of LTSP, and the future of Thin Client computing on GNU/Linux. Find out more on wiki.ltsp.org, or (#2) ltsp5 is The next version of LTSP, and the future of Thin Client computing on GNU/Linux. http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Ltsp5
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22:52 | <mistik1> Bhaskar: You should look there, however if you are debian based I think most of the work has already been done and for you it should be a matter of adding the right repos
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22:53 | Bhaskar: Talk to vagrantc and ogra when they are active for even more info about merging the debian flavor of LTSP into your distro
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22:54 | And thanks for your interest in doing this
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22:55 | <Bhaskar> mistik1, thanks
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22:55 | <mistik1> You're Welcomed
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22:55 | <Bhaskar> ogra, hello
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22:56 | we want to integrate LTSP in our Linux based on debian
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22:56 | how can we start to integrate
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22:56 | <mistik1> https://wiki.edubuntu.org/HowtoWriteLTSP5Plugins
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22:56 | another usefull link
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22:57 | <Bhaskar> which package we need ?
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22:58 | <mistik1> I'm really not sure what the package names are, I'm one of the gentoo guys
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22:59 | ogra == Ubuntu, vagrantc == debian
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22:59 | <Bhaskar> debian
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22:59 | <mistik1> I think you start with ltsp-build-client iirc
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22:59 | Then you would write a plugin with the specifics of your distro
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23:00 | <Bhaskar> ok
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23:00 | <mistik1> You could prolly reuse most of the debian stuff
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23:00 | ogra: ping
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23:02 | <Bhaskar> ogra, which package we need in debian based
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23:03 | ogra, so that we can integrate
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23:10 | <sbalneav> Bhaskar: take a look at ltsp-server and ltsp-server-standalone, as well as ltsp-client, and their dependencies
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23:11 | <Bhaskar> sbalneav, ya
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23:12 | sbalneav, from http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=sourcenames&version=all&exact=1&keywords=ltsp, sure me
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23:12 | <sbalneav> Those would be the ones
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23:13 | <Bhaskar> sbalneav, ltsp-client,ltsp-cient-builder,ltsp-server,ltsp-serevr-standalone all should be downloaded, ya
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23:15 | sbalneav, and how to start integration of those in my Nepalinux?
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23:16 | <sbalneav> Well, if it's based on Debian, then the usual way you port over packages from debian.
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23:16 | first thing would be to get the source packages, and try simply building and installing them. They may work out of the box.
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23:17 | <Bhaskar> sbalneav, now how
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23:18 | sbalneav, i download all these package, now what will my further steps
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23:20 | <sbalneav> I thought you said you had your own distro, right?
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23:20 | Nepalinux?
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23:23 | <Bhaskar> sbalneav, Nepalinux is based on debian
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23:25 | <sbalneav> do you work on the distribution?
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23:26 | <Bhaskar> sbalneav, ya
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23:27 | sbalneav, i want to integrate LTSP in this distribution
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23:29 | <sbalneav> Do you know anything about packaging in debian?
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23:30 | <Bhaskar> sbalneav, no
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23:31 | sbalneav, our aim is to integrate LTSP in Nepalinux
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23:32 | <vagrantc> Bhaskar: is nepalinux based on any other linux distros?
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23:33 | <Bhaskar> vagrantc, it is based on debian
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23:33 | <sbalneav> Debian, apparently, but Bhaskar doesn't know anything about packaging, so he might have a bit of a problem.
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23:33 | <vagrantc> Bhaskar: debian etch, or debian sarge?
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23:35 | <Bhaskar> vagrantc, debian etch based
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23:36 | vagrantc, our Nepalinux is based on debian etch
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23:36 | <vagrantc> Bhaskar: can't you just take the ltsp packages from debian etch and use those for nepalinux ?
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23:36 | <Bhaskar> vagrantc, so how?
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23:37 | <vagrantc> Bhaskar: apt-get install ltsp-server
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23:37 | Bhaskar: or whatever other method you use to install packages.
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23:37 | Bhaskar: and then, at some point, you run "ltsp-build-client"
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23:38 | Bhaskar: and you'll need to configure DHCP, NFS and tftp
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23:38 | <Bhaskar> vagrantc, ya
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23:38 | <vagrantc> so, what's left to integrate?
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23:39 | <Bhaskar> vagrantc, script of configure DHCP,NFS,tftp
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23:40 | <vagrantc> Bhaskar: there's an example DHCP configuration file in /usr/share/doc/ltsp-server/examples
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23:40 | Bhaskar: or if you prefer, you can use the dnsmasq one with the dnsmasq package
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23:41 | Bhaskar: NFS configuration is fairly simple- add the line "/opt/ltsp *(ro,no_root_squash)" to /etc/exports, if it isn't already added.
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23:41 | Bhaskar: and if you're using tftpd-hpa, you can use the defaults.
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23:45 | <Bhaskar> vagrantc, ya
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23:45 | vagrantc, now we want to pack it in live CD?
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23:48 | <vagrantc> Bhaskar: are you using debian-live ?
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23:49 | <Bhaskar> vagrantc, ya
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23:50 | <vagrantc> Bhaskar: probably ask in the #debian-live channel on irc.debian.org
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23:52 | Bhaskar: though you'll have a very difficult time getting DHCP working properly off a live CD plugged into any random network
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23:53 | <Bhaskar> vagrantc, ok
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23:57 | <Bhaskar> vagrantc, i will install fresh Nepalinux in my PC , and do all the steps that you have already told, then any problem , i will contact]
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23:58 | <vagrantc> we really need to include a basic howto of how to install it...
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