IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 25 November 2019 (all times are UTC)
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| 05:58 | <linux_user> is alkisg around?
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| 05:58 | I have been struggling with getting PXE setup and he mentioned this project and so I was reading and now have a bunch of questions!
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| 06:01 | <uumas> Ask away. If they're not around now, they'll see it later.
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| 06:02 | <linux_user> ok
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| 06:03 | 1. Fedora, CentOS, Debian, Ubuntu, ProxMox, and OpenMediaVault are OSes I would need to remotely boot from time to time to do installs of.
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| 06:03 | 2. I sometimes would need to serve up a Windows 10 installation, can it do that (not a big deal if it can�t), just a nice to have.
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| 06:03 | 3. How hard would it be to get LTSP working in a Gargoyle or OpenWRT environment?
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| 06:03 | 4. How hard would it be to build a Virtual Machine to be the server for LTSP?
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| 06:05 | 5. What distros work best for being the server? Can I use Debian?
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| 06:08 | 6. Can LTSP PXE boot Windows Workstation (say I want to re-image a bunch of laptops with a fresh Windows 10 installation)?
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| 06:08 | (Win10 Pro say)
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| 06:18 | <uumas> 3. Should work fine. Ltsp can either do proxydhcp or you can setup your own dhcp server, possibly on your router depending on how much options the fw offers.
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| 06:18 | 4. Shouldn't be more difficult than a physical one. Many people like me do that.
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| 06:18 | 5. Most distros work, Debian is one of the main targets along with Ubuntu so should work really well.
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| 06:18 | Haha, those were supposed to be 3, 4 and 5. Thanks auto-fromatting!
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| 06:20 | <linux_user> they do say 3, 4 and 5
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| 06:20 | <uumas> Oh, okay xD It's my client doing the formatting then.
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| 06:21 | <alkisg> Back
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| 06:21 | Reading...
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| 06:22 | linux_user: LTSP is mostly for *using* netbooted images. If you just want to install them, maybe the fog project is more suitable
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| 06:23 | It's easy to boot a live cd with ltsp, but you still need to provide the necessary lines in ipxe menu for that
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| 06:23 | <linux_user> oh
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| 06:25 | fog is for imaging I was told, like install this, make an image, and then stamp the image on these machines...I want to network boot different Linux distros so I can do custom installs of them each time.
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| 06:26 | <alkisg> Click the little blue ipxe menu *picture* in ltsp.org
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| 06:26 | E.g. I have entries to netboot debian-live or ubuntu live there
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| 06:26 | <linux_user> I want to get some malware of a system, and I want to PXE boot the Kaspersky disk for example
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| 06:26 | <alkisg> To make those, I just needed 5 lines in the ipxe menu
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| 06:26 | LTSP can help you up to the menu
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| 06:27 | It can't help you with custom menu entries, you'd do those manually
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| 06:27 | And note that not all OSes support netbooting
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| 06:27 | PXE can't magically add netbooting support, the OS must support it
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| 06:27 | All linux versions do support netbooting
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| 06:27 | But not windows or hirens or stuff like that
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| 06:27 | <linux_user> ok
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| 06:27 | I am mostly caring about Linux booting
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| 06:27 | not Windows
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| 06:28 | <alkisg> So to netboot windows, you'd need to put them in .wim and use sanboot etc
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| 06:28 | OK. Also note that each distribution live cd uses different netbooting parameters
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| 06:28 | <linux_user> so forget Windows, its rare I do it
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| 06:28 | <alkisg> There's a github project that lists most of these
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| 06:28 | So for each distro, you'd need a different line in the ipxe menu
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| 06:28 | While for ltsp images, the line is common
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| 06:29 | https://github.com/mytbk/liveusb-builder/tree/master/distro
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| 06:29 | This project contains lines for booting cds; you'd need to find the line for each distro and put it in ipxe
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| 06:30 | E.g. https://github.com/mytbk/liveusb-builder/blob/master/distro/fedora/entry.common says that fedora needs: rd.live.dir=liveusb-data/fedora/$version
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| 06:30 | <linux_user> well, if it will allow me to make a USB stick with most of the distros I need on it that is as good as network booting
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| 06:30 | <alkisg> That's where it will search for the "live cd"
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| 06:31 | <linux_user> ah ok
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| 06:31 | <alkisg> Sure, usb stick is fine too
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| 06:31 | <linux_user> so I could use that project to learn what would go in the menu
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| 06:31 | <alkisg> Yes
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| 06:31 | But if you're ok with usb booting,it will be easier
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| 06:31 | E.g. https://github.com/alkisg/liveusb
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| 06:31 | <linux_user> yes and is portable.
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| 06:31 | <alkisg> I have that booting windows, ubuntu and debian
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| 06:32 | And again with a couple of lines in grub, you could add more
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| 06:32 | <linux_user> I just need to add CentOS, Fedora, Debian, and OpenMediaVault to it
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| 06:33 | <alkisg> Maybe liveusb-builder already supports that, give it a look
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| 06:33 | <linux_user> ok
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| 06:33 | <alkisg> I opted for my own implementation in order to support secure boot
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| 06:33 | So my stick works in uefi/bios, and with secure boot; and it just needs .isos without preparation. I didn't find those elsewhere
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| 06:35 | <linux_user> you project boots directly from ISOs?
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| 06:36 | <alkisg> I put the .isos inside a folder and it boots them, yes
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| 06:36 | <linux_user> let me read what I'd have to do to create your project and make it work
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| 06:39 | I like your liveusb project. I am moving away from Ubuntu, but, I'd imagine it would not be that hard to get CentOS, Fedora, and Debian booting under your project.
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| 06:39 | <alkisg> Yes you'd just need their cmdlines
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| 06:39 | bootfromiso= or rd.live= etc etc
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| 06:39 | <linux_user> which I could get from the other project
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| 06:39 | <alkisg> Yes
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| 06:40 | Or you could use the other project, I haven't looked into what it offers
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| 06:40 | There are many similar projects in github, some already supporting fedora
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| 06:59 | <linux_user> ok
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