IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 13 July 2011 (all times are UTC)
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| 02:39 | <warren> stgraber, please don't forget to use "Ubuntu:" prefixes on distro-specific checkins
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| 04:11 | <alkisg> Good morning
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| 04:11 | Hyperbyte: nubae.com/logs has been down for a few days, maybe we should them in your server instead...
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| 04:12 | stgraber: do you have access to sourceforge, so that we make a php script that puts them there?
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| 04:12 | _UsUrPeR_: or, if you can create an irclogs.ltsp.org CNAME that points to Hyperbyte's server...
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| 04:52 | <vagrantc> Hyperbyte: only on untranslated string and one fuzzy
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| 06:42 | <kingmilo> hi all
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| 06:43 | I am booting the alternate install cd, normally to install LTSP I get the nice graphical install menu and I can push F4 and select to install LTSP. Unfortunately my graphics card cannot show the graphical install menu so I have the text install menu, how do i specify to install ltsp from the text menu?
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| 06:49 | <alkisg> Not sure, but *maybe* file=/cdrom/preseed/ltsp.seed is what you're looking for
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| 06:53 | <kingmilo> alright ill try thnx
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| 06:54 | <alkisg> kingmilo: Or, if you want to do it blindly, here are the keystrokes:
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| 06:54 | Enter, F4, End, Enter
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| 06:55 | And another Enter
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| 06:57 | <kingmilo> thanks alksig. I get the text install so i have the option for install or expert install, so no chance for blind install
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| 07:00 | <alkisg> OK, then just try adding file=/cdrom/preseed/ltsp.seed to your kernel parameters
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| 07:00 | <kingmilo> ill give that a shot thanks
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| 08:27 | <Hyperbyte> alkisg: sure, LTSP logs online sounds fine
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| 08:28 | Should I make a virtualhost ltsp.middelkoop.cc that links to ~/www/ on the ltspbot account?
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| 08:28 | <alkisg> Let's wait for _UsUrPeR_ or stgraber to answer, if they don't, I'll send a mail to the ltsp-developers list and ask where they want the logs to be
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| 08:29 | If they don't want them in ltsp.org or in sourceforge, yup, ltsp.middelkoop.cc sounds fine
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| 08:29 | <Hyperbyte> I still say best place is wiki. :)
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| 08:29 | But either way is fine with me
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| 08:29 | <alkisg> The domain is there, it's a shame not to use it because of a single CNAME entry in dns
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| 09:01 | <alkisg> Ah, ltsp.org is already using the sourceforge web space, so adding a vhost for irclogs.ltsp.org should be easily doable. _UsUrPeR_ ?
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| 09:13 | <Hyperbyte> Hey layus :)
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| 09:15 | <layus> hell
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| 09:16 | *hello
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| 09:16 | <Hyperbyte> :)
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| 09:50 | <layus> hello again !
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| 09:50 | <Hyperbyte> Hi again. :P
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| 09:51 | <layus> i found how to setup idesk to get some icons and a light desktop.
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| 09:51 | <Hyperbyte> :)
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| 09:52 | <layus> it looks pretty nice. i'll try to add a snapshot if i remember the x snapshot programm
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| 09:54 | I just get trouble to assign each X session a new display.
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| 09:54 | <alkisg> idesk? Why so manual? Wouldn't lxde be easier?
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| 09:54 | <layus> i tought xinit would take care of that
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| 09:55 | <layus> i used idesk 1) for fun, 2) for headaches :-) and 3) because i didn't find a kiosk mode in lxde. And i dont want user to modify local thin client.
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| 09:56 | but if you know how to setup lxde, it would be really usefull !
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| 09:56 | <alkisg> Why would you need icons for a kiosk mode? Isn't that supposed to only have a browser running?
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| 09:56 | Or you need other apps too?
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| 09:57 | <layus> kiosk is the only word approximating wat i want.
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| 09:58 | i need icons, one per server. When you click on icon "server1", it starts a new x server ans launches remote connection to server1
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| 09:58 | so i need icons, but i dont want user to start a shell, nor any other programm
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| 09:59 | <alkisg> Ah, no, then you need a modified ldm, if I got your problem
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| 10:00 | The new ldm supports plugins, I think you could write one there
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| 10:00 | (haven't looked at the new code)
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| 10:00 | <layus> i have to go for lunch. But i appreciate your idea.
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| 10:00 | see you in one hour
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| 10:17 | <astbis> Hi.
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| 10:18 | Is there someone, who can explain to me how and why x_mode_0 has no effect at all?
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| 10:18 | <alkisg> distro/version?
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| 10:18 | <astbis> Ubuntu Natty, latest update
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| 10:19 | <alkisg> You're getting a low resolution, and are trying to force a higher one, and it doesn't work?
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| 10:19 | <astbis> No opposite. I get a too high resolution and want to set 1024x768 as default
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| 10:19 | <alkisg> OK, then try this: XRANDR_MDOE_0=1024x768
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| 10:20 | *MODE
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| 10:20 | (without setting X_MODE_0)
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| 10:20 | <astbis> Yes. I will try
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| 10:26 | Where is this documented, i find it a lot useful, but outdated information on the net.
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| 10:26 | -it
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| 10:27 | It didn't work
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| 10:27 | any suggestions
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| 10:28 | <Hyperbyte> Yeah
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| 10:28 | Use XRANDR_MODE_01
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| 10:28 | <astbis> Trying
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| 10:28 | <Hyperbyte> So XRANDR_MDOE_01=1024x76
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| 10:29 | <astbis> got it
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| 10:29 | <Hyperbyte> :)
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| 10:29 | <astbis> Didn't work either
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| 10:30 | XRANDR_MDOE_0=1024x768
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| 10:30 | in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf
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| 10:30 | <Hyperbyte> No, XRANDR_MODE_01=1024x768
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| 10:30 | <astbis> wrong copy paste :-) ... i've got XRANDR_MODE_01=1024x768
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| 10:31 | <Hyperbyte> Heheh, okay
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| 10:31 | Open an xterm on the client, type "xrandr" and pastebin the output
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| 10:31 | <astbis> What is the login?
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| 10:32 | <Hyperbyte> I mean just a regular xterm. Not locally, but just on a logged in client, go to accessoires menu, start terminal
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| 10:32 | <astbis> ok
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| 10:32 | <Hyperbyte> You should get output from xrandr displaying all available outputs and video modes
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| 10:33 | <alkisg> astbis: do you put [Default] on top of your lts.conf?
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| 10:33 | Also, I did a typo above, and I said to use "MODE" instead of "MDOE"
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| 10:33 | So if you tried with XRANDR_MDOE_0=1024x768, that's why it didn't work
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| 10:34 | To learn more about these commands, see the lts.conf manpage
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| 10:34 | !lts.conf
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| 10:34 | <ltsp> alkisg: lts.conf: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf.
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| 10:34 | <Hyperbyte> alkisg, manpage also says you need to need to use XRANDR_MODE_01-09, rather than XRANDR_MODE_0
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| 10:34 | <alkisg> Hyperbyte: it needs a single digit, XRANDR_MODE_01 won't work
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| 10:34 | Typo in the manpage then
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| 10:34 | <Hyperbyte> Or I read wrong manpage version. :\
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| 10:35 | <astbis> http://pastebin.com/553zXtGA
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| 10:35 | <alkisg> astbis: now run this:
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| 10:35 | ltsp-localapps xterm
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| 10:35 | An xterm will open
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| 10:35 | On that xterm, run: getltscfg -a
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| 10:35 | And pastebin the output
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| 10:36 | <Hyperbyte> Manpage for lucid says XRANDR_MODE_01-09 and manpage for oneric says XRANDR_MODE_0-8
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| 10:36 | But I'm gonna butt out and get some lunch. ;-)
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| 10:36 | <alkisg> Hyperbyte: apparently they fixed the typo :)
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| 10:36 | <astbis> Nothing to paste ... no output.
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| 10:36 | Hyperbyte: Thanks and a good lunch
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| 10:37 | <Hyperbyte> Thanks. :)
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| 10:37 | <alkisg> astbis: now, pastebin your /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf
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| 10:38 | <astbis> http://pastebin.com/N26tpuJA
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| 10:39 | <alkisg> astbis: ok, there's something wrong there, getltscfg should have returned those values
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| 10:39 | <alkisg> For starters, fix your lts.conf, so that it says XRANDR_MODE_0
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| 10:39 | instead of XRANDR_MODE_01
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| 10:39 | But that's not your biggest problem, the biggest problem is that the client doesn't read your lts.conf at all
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| 10:40 | <alkisg> On that xterm again. If you run `cat /etc/lts.conf`, do you see your lts.conf, or you see another lts.conf which you didn't create?
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| 10:41 | <astbis> I see it is showing the default, from /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf
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| 10:41 | It seems /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf is not used.
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| 10:41 | <alkisg> OK. Now try to see if you can get your new one from tftp, with the following command:
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| 10:42 | cd /tmp; tftp server -v -m binary -c get /ltsp/i386/lts.conf
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| 10:42 | On the xterm again
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| 10:42 | <astbis> Thanks for the help by the way.
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| 10:42 | <alkisg> No problem
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| 10:43 | <astbis> Error code 1: File not found
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| 10:43 | <alkisg> It's possible that your tftp server uses the wrong dir.
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| 10:43 | Did you upgrade to natty from a previous installation, or did you install from scratch?
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| 10:44 | <astbis> upgrade from previous
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| 10:44 | <alkisg> OK. Do you have an /srv/tftp directory?
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| 10:44 | <astbis> Yes. With the ltsp dir in it
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| 10:45 | <alkisg> OK, run: sudo rm -rf /srv/tftp
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| 10:45 | :)
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| 10:45 | <astbis> Sure?
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| 10:45 | <alkisg> If you only have ltsp there, yes
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| 10:45 | Now pastebin your /etc/default/tftpd-hpa file
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| 10:46 | <astbis> http://pastebin.com/aY8zxNjy
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| 10:46 | <alkisg> TFTP_DIRECTORY="/var/lib/tftpboot"
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| 10:47 | And: sudo restart tftpd-hpa
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| 10:47 | Reboot the client, it should work now
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| 10:48 | <astbis> trying
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| 10:49 | <alkisg> I assume that your ltsp kernels are also on /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386, if they aren't, a `sudo ltsp-update-kernels` will put them there
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| 10:50 | <astbis> Yes they are
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| 10:51 | Now the lts.conf is on the client, but the resolution is the same. Maybe with x_mode_0 = ...
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| 10:52 | <alkisg> No, don't try it. Can you pastebin the result of getltscfg -a ?
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| 10:52 | <astbis> Ok.
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| 10:53 | <alkisg> Ah. It's possible that you changed the settings from the gnome monitors dialog
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| 10:53 | Check on gnome-terminal: ls -l ~/.config/monitors.xml
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| 10:53 | Is that file there, for the user you're trying with?
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| 10:54 | <astbis> http://pastebin.com/xAzJ7PG1
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| 10:54 | <alkisg> XRANDR_MODE_01="1024x768"
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| 10:54 | You didn't fix that
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| 10:54 | XRANDR_MODE_0="1024x768"
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| 10:54 | (01:39:35 μμ) alkisg: For starters, fix your lts.conf, so that it says XRANDR_MODE_0
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| 10:54 | (01:39:41 μμ) alkisg: instead of XRANDR_MODE_01
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| 10:54 | <astbis> No monitors file
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| 10:55 | <alkisg> Yeah the problem is the wrong spelling above ^
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| 10:55 | Remove the "1" in the end
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| 10:56 | <astbis> Done ... so it is 0-9
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| 10:56 | <alkisg> Yes
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| 10:56 | <astbis> It sieems i didn't get that part earlier.
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| 10:56 | Rebooting
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| 10:57 | It is working... I owe you one
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| 10:57 | <alkisg> You're welcome
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| 10:58 | <astbis> What does you experience say on the topic "Multimedia web content" and ltsp?
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| 10:58 | <alkisg> And more specifically? Flash?
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| 10:59 | <astbis> Flash, youtube and most important flash animated educational applications
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| 10:59 | <alkisg> A btw let's fix a few other problems in your lts.conf
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| 10:59 | <astbis> Gladly
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| 10:59 | <alkisg> You cannot put multiple DNS_SERVERS
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| 10:59 | Put a single one, separated with commas
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| 10:59 | <astbis> Done
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| 10:59 | <alkisg> Also, you shouldn't need the "chmod_fix" etc patch anymore
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| 10:59 | Remove it
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| 11:00 | <astbis> Done
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| 11:00 | :-)
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| 11:00 | This is fun
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| 11:00 | <alkisg> Ah - sorry I was wrong above. Use spaces, not commas, for separation
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| 11:01 | So: DNS_SERVER="ip1 ip2 ip3"
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| 11:01 | <mgariepy_> good morning everyone
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| 11:01 | <alkisg> Hey mgariepy_
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| 11:01 | <astbis> " for all value?
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| 11:01 | Morning? Which timezone?
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| 11:01 | <alkisg> No, just around all of them. Or don't put any at all
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| 11:01 | Now for flash...
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| 11:01 | !flash
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| 11:01 | <ltsp> alkisg: flash: Yes, flash sucks. Make sure you have LDM_DIRECTX=True in your lts.conf file, or if it's just youtube you're after, try some flash replacing plugin like https://addons.mozilla.org/el/firefox/addon/161869/ (per user installation, gecko-mediaplayer is also needed)..
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| 11:02 | <astbis> Yeah.. i meant variable="value"
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| 11:02 | <alkisg> Basically flash will work ok for a few clients, and then it will suck your server cpu and your network bandwidth
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| 11:02 | So for many clients, localapps or fat clients work better with flash
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| 11:03 | <astbis> Yes. The network issue, is why we cant run one class on webapps with flash
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| 11:03 | Up to 5 client work ok. After that nothing goes :-(
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| 11:03 | <alkisg> With flash as a localapp, or with fat clients, you won't need a good network nor a good server
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| 11:04 | <astbis> I tried local app. But then the client was too slow :-( ...
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| 11:04 | <alkisg> What are the client specs?
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| 11:05 | cpu/ram?
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| 11:05 | <astbis> 1ghz, 512 i guess
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| 11:05 | <alkisg> Yeah it's a bit low for modern flash web content
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| 11:05 | <astbis> Yeah . that is what i figured.
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| 11:05 | <alkisg> So the best you can do is to put LDM_DIRECTX=True
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| 11:06 | After that you can only upgrade your hardware, server or clients
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| 11:06 | <astbis> Done that right now. Will give it a try
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| 11:06 | I have a last questing now that i am talking to an expert :-)
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| 11:06 | How can i get the login localized to danish?
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| 11:07 | <alkisg> Haha nah, no expert here, just a teacher
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| 11:07 | <astbis> :-)
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| 11:07 | <alkisg> What's the language code for danish?
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| 11:07 | <astbis> LDM_LANGUAGE="da_DK.UTF-8" doesnt get the result needed.
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| 11:07 | <alkisg> Try LANG="da_DK.UTF-8"
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| 11:08 | astbis: is your language there? http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ldm-trunk/files/head:/po/
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| 11:08 | If not, you need to translate ldm first :)
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| 11:09 | <astbis> It look like i have to translate it.
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| 11:09 | <alkisg> !learn ldm-po as To see if LDM is translated in your language: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ldm-trunk/files/head:/po/ If it isn't, send a mail with the translation to the ltsp-developers mailing list.
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| 11:09 | <ltsp> alkisg: The operation succeeded.
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| 11:17 | <astbis> Translated the file :-)
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| 11:22 | Posted.
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| 11:23 | Can i put it in myself?
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| 11:31 | <Hyperbyte> No, mail it to the ltsp-developers mailing list :)
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| 11:32 | <astbis> Done. Can it be that attachments get rejected? ... I send a second message with pastebin.
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| 11:32 | <Hyperbyte> No, I don't think that's the case.
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| 11:32 | Did you sign up for the mailing list before sending mails to it?
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| 11:32 | <astbis> Yes i did.
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| 11:33 | Maybe at somepoint the message get through. I haven't received any ... yet.
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| 11:34 | <Hyperbyte> Me neither.
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| 11:40 | <layus> Ok, i'm back. Sorry for leaving so fast, i did not intend to be rude...
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| 11:40 | <astbis> Now i go to lunch... thanks for all the help. It is working like a charm now and the danish translations hopefully is coming soon :-)
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| 11:41 | <layus> So my problem is to get a nice interface, allowing the final user to chose his server amongst windows and linux ones.
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| 11:42 | So i made a simple desktop with idesk, and put some icons that launch screen.d scripts.
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| 11:42 | <Hyperbyte> astbis: got it
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| 11:43 | <astbis> :-) ... have a nice day.
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| 11:43 | <Hyperbyte> You..... too
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| 11:43 | Heh
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| 11:44 | <layus> ...
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| 11:44 | <Hyperbyte> Too fast for me. :)
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| 11:44 | <layus> he he !
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| 11:45 | <Hyperbyte> So where are you at now, layus? :) Making progress?
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| 11:46 | <layus> my biggest problem is that new X servers tend to use the same display as idesk, leading to errors.
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| 11:47 | Do you know how to ensure that each new x server gets a new display and a new vt ?
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| 11:47 | (new = unused)
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| 11:48 | * Hyperbyte shrugs | |
| 11:49 | <layus> ltsp uses openvt, but it doesn't gets called when i use direclty screen.d scripts.
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| 11:50 | is there another entry point into ltsp scripts than calling them directly ?
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| 11:50 | <Hyperbyte> How are you launching idesk?
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| 11:54 | <layus> i added a screen.d script...
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| 11:54 | and used lts.conf to launch it
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| 12:02 | <Hyperbyte> Maybe silly question, but can't you just kill idesk and run the screen script?
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| 12:02 | And when the screen script ends, restart idesk?
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| 12:03 | Mind you, I have zero experience with this. Just thinking out loud.
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| 12:06 | <layus> Yes... and no... :)
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| 12:07 | i need to keep idesk open and accessible, as user may want to open more than one remote desktop
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| 12:08 | <Hyperbyte> Oh wow. This sounds like a nice add-on feature for LTSP though
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| 12:08 | <alkisg> astbis: yes you can convert it to .mo yourself and put it in your chroot and run ltsp-update-image
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| 12:08 | <Hyperbyte> Sort of like a "screen switcher"?
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| 12:09 | <layus> yes
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| 12:09 | <Hyperbyte> alkisg, he's gone. But you could reply to his mail on ltsp-developer. :)
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| 12:09 | <alkisg> Hmm my pidgin has serious problems, it thinks people are still online
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| 12:09 | <Hyperbyte> Really? Does it show me as online too?
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| 12:10 | Because I've been gone since an hour or so as well.
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| 12:10 | :P
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| 12:10 | <alkisg> :D
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| 12:11 | <Hyperbyte> layus, I really like your idea though. So CTRL+ALT+F2 (or whatever) always bring you to the screen chooser
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| 12:11 | And from there you can pick different sessions
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| 12:11 | <alkisg> Why not reuse the same X screen instead?
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| 12:12 | For multiple screens, defining SCREEN_XX in lts.conf sounds more logical
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| 12:14 | <alkisg> Yup now I get the correct user list :)
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| 12:15 | <Hyperbyte> alkisg, layus needs have multiple screens, for both rdesktop clients as well as ldm
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| 12:15 | <alkisg> I thought he was just trying to login to different servers, using the same screen
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| 12:15 | <Hyperbyte> But he doesn't want them all active when not needed, because the rdesktop login prompt times out
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| 12:16 | <alkisg> That's easily solved with XINITRC_DAEMON=True
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| 12:17 | <Hyperbyte> Undocumented LTSP secrets being spread here. :o
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| 12:17 | <alkisg> Haha
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| 12:17 | Well, RDP_DAEMON in previous ltsp versions
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| 12:18 | Ouch that too wasn't too documented, it seems :D
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| 12:18 | <Hyperbyte> Only five hits on Google for "lts.conf" "XINITRC_DAEMON"
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| 12:18 | Six if you leave out "lts.conf"
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| 12:18 | I'd say this has to be one of the biggest kept secrets regarding LTSP :-D
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| 12:19 | <alkisg> Haha no the best kept secrets have negative google results
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| 12:19 | <Hyperbyte> Hehe
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| 12:19 | <alkisg> "RDP_DAEMON" => also 5... weird
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| 12:20 | <Hyperbyte> Did I mention layus wants a GUI to switch between screens?
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| 12:20 | <alkisg> Nope, I was still thinking he'd only have 1 session active each time
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| 12:21 | <Hyperbyte> So basically... let's say you have XINITRC_DAEMON=False, so rdesktop restarts
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| 12:21 | <alkisg> If he wants task switching and multiple rdesktop screens etc etc, I think that logging in *first* and launching those from the normal gnome session would make more sense :P
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| 12:21 | <Hyperbyte> And have idesk on SCREEN_02 with icons to switch between screens
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| 12:22 | <Hyperbyte> I get the impression some are Windows users, others are Gnome users, and some are both.
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| 12:22 | And they're all on LTSp
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| 12:22 | <alkisg> Then, SCREEN_07=ldm, SCREEN_08=rdesktop, and for the "both" case, just launch rdesktop from within the gnome session
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| 12:23 | I don't see where idesk would be needed there
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| 12:23 | <Hyperbyte> Heh
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| 12:23 | layus, time for you to pitch in here. =)
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| 12:33 | <layus> ok, let's make it clear.
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| 12:33 | We have three windows servers, and five linux, (3 suse enterprise, + 2 others)
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| 12:34 | Each user is allowed to connect to all of these servers.
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| 12:34 | I dont want to setup 8 login screens.
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| 12:34 | <alkisg> That's why I was proposing the new ldm with the plugins subsystem, which would support this use case
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| 12:35 | It has support for ssh sessions, rdesktop sessions etc
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| 12:35 | Anyway, time for work, bb online later
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| 12:35 | <layus> and a scrollling list for each server ?
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| 12:36 | because if it's the case... i might be interrested...
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| 12:36 | But again it seems to lack documentation, isn't it ?
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| 12:37 | And i'm not quite sure it's possible to start two sessions at a time.
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| 12:37 | Unless you start ldm in all screens, wich could be a solution.
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| 12:50 | <layus> alkisg said "I think that logging in *first* and launching those from the normal gnome session would make more sense :P", And i have to agree but it's a very thin client, an i think a full gnome is a bit too much :)
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| 12:59 | <Hyperbyte> layus, I think he meant logging in via ldm as a thin client, then launching rdesktop as a localapp
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| 13:02 | <layus> i dont really understand... no need to login into thin client, isn't it ?
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| 13:05 | <Hyperbyte> I don't think it's a good solution, just saying what I think he meant. :P
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| 13:51 | <tl1000s77> Hey everyone. Has anyone here tried ltsp-cluster?
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| 13:52 | <Hyperbyte> !ask | tell tl1000s77
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| 13:56 | <tl1000s77> If so, would you recommend it over having multiple ltsp servers.
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| 14:14 | <Hyperbyte> I have a guest account, for which I would prefer not to save any settings at all whatsoever. I don't want to allow users to make changes to their home directory, basically. But a read-only home directory is not going to work with Gnome.
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| 14:15 | I was thinking maybe I could mount the home for this user as tmpfs, but that doesn't seem very elegant. Does anyone have a good solution to accomplish this?
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| 14:19 | <alkisg> Either tmpfs or erase everything on login/logout. But why you don't think that tmpfs or nbd cow isn't elegant?
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| 14:20 | <Hyperbyte> Well
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| 14:21 | No idea actually... just seems like hacking is required
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| 14:21 | Or is there an easy way to accomplish this?
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| 14:22 | Maybe it would be a useful lts.conf option even? LDM_GUESTTMPFS? :)
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| 14:22 | Seems not too hard to hack in there somewhere.
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| 14:23 | Although I'm attempting to do this on the client - that's not right is it, I need to do this on the server on login/logout
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| 14:23 | <alkisg> Yeah that would be useful, but also, ubuntu has a guest account mode, maybe that could be used instead.
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| 14:24 | <Hyperbyte> How can I use that with LDM?
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| 14:26 | <alkisg> What I'd do... I wouldn't want to give server access at all to a guest account
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| 14:27 | So, for fat clients, I'd mount /home/username from a cow nbd export on the server
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| 14:27 | Unfortunately for thin clients that would not be possible, server access would be required
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| 14:29 | So I'd have one guest account per thin client on the server, otherwise each client would have access to other clients' processes
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| 14:29 | <Hyperbyte> Not important.
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| 14:29 | <alkisg> I don't think the ubuntu guest login supports multiple logins, so that wouldn't work
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| 14:29 | <Hyperbyte> Well, for Firefox maybe, but that I can figure out
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| 14:30 | But we sometimes have students, volunteers working in the office... they need websites, office and printing...
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| 14:30 | <alkisg> No the problem isn't firefox, with an nbd home it would start multiple times without problems
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| 14:30 | <Hyperbyte> Ah
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| 14:31 | <alkisg> The problem is that one student could read the processes from other students, so he could possible see passwords in ram etc
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| 14:31 | <Hyperbyte> Not a problem either.
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| 14:31 | <alkisg> Or even run keyloggers to other user's X displays
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| 14:31 | So as I said I'd use one guest account per thin client
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| 14:32 | <Hyperbyte> Yeah but that's overkill for me. These aren't the hacker types.
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| 14:32 | <alkisg> With either cow home (nbd, tmpfs, whatever) or clearing at logon/logout
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| 14:32 | Overkill? It would take 1 minute to create e.g. 256 guest accounts
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| 14:33 | Other than that, there would be no difference in the implementation
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| 14:34 | Anyway, back to work again... :)
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| 14:35 | <Hyperbyte> I still don't see how an nbd home would solve the Firefox problem. It would if Firefox is a localapp, but on the server one users' home is shared between all logged in users, isn't it?
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| 14:37 | I just thought of something brilliant. Reason I can't create a bunch of guest accounts, is that all my servers are tied into one NIS. Including my mail server. I could create all the guest accounts locally on the terminal server though, seperate from the NIS.
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| 14:37 | Well 'brilliant'... maybe a bit stupid that I didn't think of that before, but alas.
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| 14:40 | <Hyperbyte> Maybe I could even set up autofs5 to automatically mount their home dirs as tmpfs?
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| 14:56 | <tl1000s77> I was on the ltsp-cluster.org website and saw that they ran MS Office apps from a Windows Terminal server on an Ubuntu thinclient. Is it possible to do that with a regular thin client? If so, how?
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| 15:04 | <Hyperbyte> alkisg, oh man this works sweet!
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| 15:05 | tmpfs via automount!
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| 15:05 | And I did end up creating 7 guest accounts, outside of my NIS server
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| 15:08 | <layus> It's cool to see that it works for you.
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| 15:08 | <layus> note : it works for me too :)
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| 15:09 | <Hyperbyte> :D
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| 15:09 | What'd you do? =)
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| 15:09 | <layus> maybe a small tuto next week
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| 15:09 | i enden by using openvt to start /usr/share/ltsp/screen.d/xxx -options myserver
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| 15:10 | *ended
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| 15:10 | <Hyperbyte> Would be nice to hear more about that. :)
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| 15:10 | <layus> all this launched by one icon on idesk
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| 15:10 | <Hyperbyte> Maybe a small tutorial somewhere on the wiki. ;)
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| 15:11 | <layus> remakr : using xfreerdp allow 32 bit color depth, wich rdesktop doesn't support. Any mistake here ?
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| 15:17 | <Hyperbyte> Sounds like Windows is configured for 32-bit colors and rdesktop only supports 16-bit
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| 15:17 | I'd use 16-bit colors over network anyways
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| 15:25 | <Hyperbyte> !ogra
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| 15:25 | <ltsp> Hyperbyte: ogra: ogra!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
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| 15:28 | <layus> we have a very good local network :-) (VERY good in facts...)
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| 15:29 | <Hyperbyte> Not my point. :P
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| 15:32 | <highvoltage> ogeraaaaaah!
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| 18:42 | <alkisg> _UsUrPeR_, stgraber, shall we do something about the channel logs? nubae.com/logs has been down for sometime now, it'd be nice if we could get them either to ltsp.sf.net or if we could get a cname for irclogs.ltsp.org to point to Hyperbyte's server...
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| 18:42 | (btw vagrantc do you have admin to the sf site?)
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| 18:50 | <vagrantc> nope
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| 18:52 | <stgraber> alkisg: I'm not an admin either
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| 18:52 | alkisg: I just have editor/admin rights on mediawiki IIRC
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| 18:52 | <alkisg> Ah... ok I'll send a mail to the ltsp-developers ML about it. stgraber can you make me and Hyperbyte wiki editors?
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| 18:53 | I'm alkisg, and I think Hyperbyte what's your sf name again?
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| 18:53 | *s/think//
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| 18:55 | He's janmiddelkoop, I believe
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| 18:59 | Hmmm only jammcq and sbalneav are admins to the sf page... http://sourceforge.net/project/memberlist.php?group_id=17723
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| 19:00 | <vagrantc> i don't even have an sf account i can use
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| 19:00 | <alkisg> Hehe... it'd be nice to have a little better ltsp.org site though
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| 19:00 | (it's hosted on sf)
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| 19:01 | <stgraber> I just did a password recovery on mine so I can login on the wiki and maybe add some more editors
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| 19:04 | <vagrantc> i had an account, and could never get the password recovery to work.
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| 19:04 | kinda never reall yhad much enthusiasm for sf after they went closed-source
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| 19:04 | <alkisg> I tried to host a project there too and was disappointed with their services, so I moved it to my own servers
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| 19:04 | <stgraber> alkisg: you should have edit rights now
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| 19:04 | <alkisg> stgraber: ty, trying...
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| 19:05 | <stgraber> I can't find Hyperbyte though (tried both nicknames)
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| 19:06 | <alkisg> Yup, it's working, I updated the greek ltsp forum url at https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ltsp/index.php?title=Ltsp_Support
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| 20:26 | <TheMatrix3000> !lts.conf
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| 20:26 | <ltsp> TheMatrix3000: lts.conf: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf.
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| 22:24 | <Hyperbyte> stgraber: I'm janmiddelkoop on sourceforge
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| 22:25 | User ID 3469081
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| 22:26 | That's my login name anyways
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| 22:26 | Public display name is Jan Middelkoop
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