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Channel log from 13 August 2010 (all times are UTC)
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| 02:39 | <lumpy4565> hi
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| 02:58 | <biomorph> hi lumpy4565
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| 04:14 | <rauz> hi
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| 04:14 | does the current ltsp work with slackware ?
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| 04:19 | <johnny> rauz, it would have to be created for slackware
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| 04:19 | it's distro specific
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| 04:19 | each distro has to build a build-client plugin which builds the chroot and write init scripts to boot the client environment
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| 04:20 | quite a few people have came in here to ask about a slackware build, but nobody wants to write one
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| 04:21 | <elias_a> rauz: What is it gonna be this time? :D
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| 04:22 | Just teasing. Is there really a reason not to use Ubuntu or Debian?
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| 04:31 | <rauz> i have no problem to use debian i'm not realy familiar with debian so i thought i ask for slackware
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| 04:33 | <elias_a> I would set up my first LTSP on Ubuntu. After that I would think over.
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| 04:35 | <rauz> ok i will try it with ubuntu thx for helping me
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| 04:37 | <elias_a> rauz: You're welcome. Stay on the channel! :)
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| 04:39 | <rauz> thanks, i will
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| 09:28 | <Blinny> abeehc-: What distro/version are you on?
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| 09:47 | <Blinny> Can you attach files to emails directed to ltsp-discuss ?
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| 09:48 | <vagrantc> Blinny: i think so, though there may be some size limits or something
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| 09:48 | Blinny: in general, better to post a URL
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| 09:50 | <Blinny> D'oh
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| 09:50 | just clicked send
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| 09:51 | I just pasted into the email. That's probably a nono. I have no netiquette.
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| 09:53 | vagrantc: Perhaps you can answer - to what package should I file that nbd bug?
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| 09:53 | tcpd, inetd, ltsp?
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| 09:54 | <vagrantc> Blinny: if it's just plain text, probably fine.
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| 09:54 | Blinny: which nbd bug?
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| 09:55 | <Blinny> I've been detailed in ltsp-discuss the last few days. nbd-server processes aren't being killed after client shutdown.
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| 09:56 | I see it on Hardy, but another user reported similar results on Lucid.
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| 09:56 | abeehc- (in this channel) reported 600+ nbd-server processes yesterday on his 30-client server.
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| 10:06 | <vagrantc> wow
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| 10:06 | * vagrantc should try and confirm on debian | |
| 10:06 | <vagrantc> seems like something borked the keepalive stuff
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| 10:07 | i wonder if there's some other service you could test keepalive with, to test if it's just nbd that's having the problem
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| 10:08 | <Blinny> Yeah. I have tons of RAM, but on Hardy nbd_swap fills up my 8GB /tmp pretty quickly and I'm considering cron'ing server reboots.
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| 10:09 | <vagrantc> ouch
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| 10:10 | * vagrantc wonders if somehow the name matching in /etc/hosts.allow is borked | |
| 10:10 | <Blinny> The thing is, I can't figure out what update was the first domino.
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| 10:10 | Yeah.
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| 10:10 | <vagrantc> Blinny: have you tried an older kernel?
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| 10:11 | i.e. a security update might have caused the issue
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| 10:11 | <Blinny> I don't think so: http://pastebin.com/S0eB3ZD6
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| 10:11 | I have tried the -27 kernel. Not yet -26 or earlier
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| 10:11 | <vagrantc> Blinny: another thing worth exploring is switching to NFS until it can get sorted out...
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| 10:12 | though you'd still have the nbdswap problems...
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| 10:12 | <Blinny> Right. And those are the only show-stoppers for me.
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| 10:12 | (Speaking selfishly of course ;)
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| 10:13 | <vagrantc> ah
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| 10:13 | the nbdroot isn't causing so much trouble?
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| 10:13 | <Blinny> Like I said, I have tons of RAM.
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| 10:14 | I was fortunate to over-engineer in planning for future growth.
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| 10:15 | <vagrantc> i wonder if you'd need to try an older kernel on both the server and the clients, too ...
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| 10:15 | <Blinny> Hmm. I am fully up to date on the client side too.
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| 10:16 | Did you read that thread in ltsp-discuss?
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| 10:16 | <vagrantc> since it affects both lucid and hardy, you could probably figure out which packages between the two dists have recently recieved the same/similar updates
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| 10:16 | <Blinny> Looks to me like the server isn't sending the keepalive requests
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| 10:16 | <vagrantc> Blinny: i've read over it... but haven't had too many ideas to contribute that weren't already said
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| 10:17 | <Blinny> I take that as a compliment!
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| 10:17 | I must be doing the gruntwork correctly then.
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| 10:17 | <vagrantc> Blinny: sounds fairly good.
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| 10:17 | <vagrantc> i don't know why, but my hunch is trying older kernel versions
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| 10:18 | <Blinny> Yeah, that was my first hunch too. I guess I should have followed it further than one version regression.
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| 10:18 | <vagrantc> i think it's the one thing i know gets updated semi-regularly
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| 10:18 | Blinny: you can check /var/log/dpkg.log* to determine when a given package was updated
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| 10:19 | you can try to compare it to when the problem started happening
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| 10:20 | <Blinny> Yeh. I went to 2.6.24-28.71 on July 9th. That's when things hit the fan, so that's why I tried downgrading to -27
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| 10:21 | Interesting idea that I should downgrade both client and server kernels
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| 10:25 | I'm now kicking them both back to -26 on one of my servers.
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| 10:36 | OK. Tonight we'll be back to -26
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| 17:38 | <Luke_Wolf> So I'm back home to Fedora on the server since I couldn't get the others to work. but I was trying to install firefox to the /opt/ltsp/i386 and it appears yum is broken.. http://pastebin.com/t4ZSXysk
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