IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 14 August 2012 (all times are UTC)
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| 00:22 | <shh> How can I check the temp of an Ubuntu 12.04-LTSP (amd64) thin client? It is a Toshiba laptop that pxe boots 12.04-amd64. This is not configured as a thick client. The server is Proxmox host, and Ubuntu LTSP server runs in a VM (Great BTW!).
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| 00:37 | <passstab> hi
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| 00:38 | <shh> hello
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| 00:38 | <passstab> i'm using debian testing with ltsp 5.4.2
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| 00:39 | i'v set up a chroot that works but i can't get it to pxe boot
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| 00:40 | <shh> i am still a noob, but update the image?
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| 00:41 | Others here might be of more help. It has been quiet here for a little while.
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| 00:41 | <passstab> apt-get update/upgrade in chroot?
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| 00:41 | <shh> I think it is: ltsp-update-image
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| 00:43 | <passstab> command not found
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| 00:44 | i installed ltsp-server-standalone
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| 00:44 | <shh> yeaah, debian might be different than ubuntu.
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| 00:46 | <passstab> how do i configure dhcp?
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| 00:46 | <shh> just verified, that is the command i use under ubuntu 12.04 ltsp
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| 00:46 | well there are two ways
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| 00:46 | that i know of
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| 00:47 | it depends if you have an existing router providing dhcp
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| 00:47 | <passstab> i do
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| 00:47 | <shh> ok
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| 00:49 | look at the dnsmasq stuff, if you google for ubuntu dnsmasq ltsp you will find what I used. I have a server that runs in a vm, and it just passes the dhcp stuff only needed for tftp/pxe goodness. The router passes net and ip stuff.
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| 00:50 | this info might not pertain to debian, but it will get you started.
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| 00:50 | <passstab> thanks
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| 00:51 | <shh> :)
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| 00:51 | shit works like a charm
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| 00:53 | there are some other little kernel boot entries mods needed in my case, so if your thin client doesn't boot all the way, it may be because of a missing boot entry
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| 00:54 | if you do, remember to google "ipappend 3".
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| 00:56 | <passstab> ok
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| 01:12 | still failing :(
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| 01:14 | <shh> hmm
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| 01:15 | <passstab> i should change ipappend 2 to ipappend 3 ?
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| 01:15 | <shh> it might be 2
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| 01:15 | I am stoned, but I thought it was a 3
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| 01:15 | <passstab> the instructions you gave me said 3
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| 01:16 | but it has 2 in the defaults
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| 01:16 | <shh> i can check my server if you wish, I think its 3. When I told you 3 intially I was stoned then too. :)
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| 01:16 | <passstab> :)
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| 01:17 | * shh checking | |
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| 01:26 | <shh> yep, 3
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| 01:27 | ipappend 3
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| 01:28 | on a line all by itself.
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| 01:28 | <passstab> but if it can't get to the boot screen thats not the problem, right?
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| 01:28 | <shh> I would get the splash and then fail.
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| 01:29 | does your pxe client even get an answer when it boots?
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| 01:31 | <passstab> no
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| 01:32 | <shh> ahhh
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| 01:32 | well the dnsmasq thing should be of interest then.
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| 01:34 | your pxe client needs that tftp payload, and it is waiting for a server to tell it where to get the goods. Just to confirm, you do have network / pxe booting enabled in your thin client's BIOS?
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| 01:49 | <passstab> yes i got it to work with the edubuntu liveCD
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| 01:55 | <shh> out of ideas :(
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| 01:56 | <passstab> thanks for trying
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| 02:10 | <shh> np. it's pretty sweet once you get it going.
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| 02:23 | <passstab> ssh what do you use it for?
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| 02:23 | shh what do you use it for?
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| 02:24 | lol your name confuses anyone on IRC :P
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| 02:25 | thanks, good night
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| 02:47 | <blakes> Hyperbyte, are you really there are just sleeping?
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| 03:07 | <blakes> still having a boot problem on ltsp and 12.04... anyone brave enough to take it on?
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| 07:05 | <Hyperbyte> blakes, usually at 4:47 AM I'm sleeping. :)
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| 07:06 | <elias_a> Hyperbyte: I guess blakes is walking upside down and does not know it :P
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| 07:07 | <Hyperbyte> :-D
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| 07:08 | <elias_a> Hyperbyte: Try to explain him, please!
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| 07:08 | blakes: Wakey wakey!
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| 07:09 | blakes: You descendants of passengers of Mayflower sleep in the middle of the day!?
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| 07:43 | <Hyperbyte> elias_a, you running fat clients by any chance?
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| 07:45 | <[omicron]> Hi all
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| 07:48 | <Hyperbyte> Hey
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| 07:49 | <Hyperbyte> [omicron], what's up?
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| 07:50 | <[omicron]> here... about to killing myself :)
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| 07:50 | someone using likewise-open??
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| 07:50 | <Hyperbyte> !ask
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| 07:50 | <ltsp> Hyperbyte: ask: Don't ask to ask a question, simply ask it, and if someone knows the answer, they'll respond. Please hang around for at least a full hour after asking a question, as not everybody constantly monitors the channel.
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| 07:50 | <[omicron]> it seems to work fine.... EXCEPT (of course) when the user passwork expires...
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| 07:51 | then the seats (and the master server) becomes bit crazy
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| 07:51 | s/passwork/password :P
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| 07:59 | <[omicron]> hummm... I'm trying to change a user password using CLI and I can see... "Password does not meet requirements" and "Autentication token manipulation error"
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| 08:00 | any ideas?
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| 09:05 | <elias_a> Hyperbyte: No. Sorry :(
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| 09:05 | Hyperbyte: Ask vmlintu. He is.
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| 09:13 | <vmlintu> yep
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| 09:15 | <Hyperbyte> vmlintu, how large is your /tmp tmpfs partition?
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| 09:15 | 512mb, right?
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| 09:15 | (on the fat clients)
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| 09:18 | <vmlintu> depends on how much the client has memory.. some seem to have 256mb, some 1.5gb
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| 09:18 | <vmlintu> /tmp size, that is
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| 09:19 | <muppis> Dos that use tmpfs?
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| 09:19 | <vmlintu> Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
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| 09:19 | tmpfs 1676072 88 1675984 1% /tmp
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| 09:20 | <vmlintu> that's from one of the fat clients
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| 09:20 | <muppis> So it is totally relative to available ram because nature of tmpfs.
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| 09:23 | <vmlintu> yes, tmpfs seems to default to half of available ram
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| 09:58 | <edgarin> Hi!
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| 09:58 | somebody here?
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| 10:20 | <knipwim> !ask echo edgarin
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| 10:20 | <ltsp> knipwim: Error: "ask" is not a valid command.
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| 10:20 | <knipwim> !ask
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| 10:20 | <ltsp> knipwim: ask: Don't ask to ask a question, simply ask it, and if someone knows the answer, they'll respond. Please hang around for at least a full hour after asking a question, as not everybody constantly monitors the channel.
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| 10:34 | <edgarin> Can I use a Vortex86mx with las ubuntu?
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| 10:37 | <cyberorg> knipwim, you work on gentoo right?
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| 10:38 | <knipwim> edgarin: it's x86 arch right?
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| 10:38 | cyberorg: yes
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| 10:38 | <cyberorg> knipwim, does nbd > 3 work for you?
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| 10:38 | nbd version
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| 10:39 | <knipwim> haven't tried
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| 10:39 | i tried once to implement, but found a lot of problems
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| 10:39 | <cyberorg> k, seems broken, last one that works here is 2.95
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| 10:40 | <knipwim> gentoo still runs nfs-only
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| 10:40 | <cyberorg> it should be broken on upcoming ubuntu/debian as well, wanted to know IF it works there
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| 10:40 | <knipwim> is it broken in all 3+ versions?
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| 10:41 | gentoo has a 3.0, 3.1.1 and 3.2 available in testing
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| 10:41 | <cyberorg> knipwim, i tested 3.1.1 and 3.2, both broken, for opensuse 12.2 we may have to default to aoe
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| 10:41 | probably you ran into that, try old nbd
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| 10:42 | <knipwim> i think i tried all versions below 3
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| 10:42 | but still problems
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| 10:42 | but i think it's an issue with the initramfs rather than nbd itself
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| 10:43 | <cyberorg> on 12.1 we had 2.9.20, i think last ubuntu had 2.9.25
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| 10:45 | will find out from alkisg/vagrantc if they run into any issues on new nbd
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| 12:24 | <rickogden> hmm, sudo ltsp-update-image --cleanup / is not creating a new .img file :/
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| 12:39 | <bieb> Hyperbyte: you here??
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| 13:26 | <[omicron]> hi again guys
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| 13:27 | one question ... how it is supposed to change the users passwords when they expire? The seats logon manager crashes when the system prompts the user to enter the new password and restarts itself
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| 13:28 | some plan to prevent this?
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| 13:29 | <muppis> Isn't it root job anyway to change expired password?
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| 13:37 | <[omicron]> absolutely not
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| 13:37 | I've 742 users in 192 stations in different hours and turns
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| 13:37 | how I must change all of this?
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| 13:37 | <dead_inside> you could use ldap, i use that and built my users a simple php web page to enter their un/old pass/new pass
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| 13:37 | <[omicron]> think in active directory way...
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| 13:38 | when the password is expired, a prompt appears to the user telling him to change its password
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| 13:38 | <dead_inside> yea we get the same problem
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| 13:38 | <[omicron]> this is a good way (if you don't want see me jumping over a bridge :D )
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| 13:38 | <dead_inside> which bridge?
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| 13:39 | lol
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| 13:39 | <[omicron]> the golden gate... for example
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| 13:39 | :D
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| 13:39 | <dead_inside> thats not the best water for a swim
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| 13:39 | <[omicron]> I don't know... I'm from Spain... I told you some famous bride ;)
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| 13:40 | <dead_inside> oh lol
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| 13:40 | jump off hoover dam, gives you a nice view for a while before…..
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| 13:41 | <[omicron]> jumping always provide another way to see the thins
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| 13:41 | hahaha
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| 13:41 | thinGs
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| 13:41 | <dead_inside> are you using ldap or active directory or something like that?
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| 13:41 | <[omicron]> in this case I need to use AD
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| 13:42 | <dead_inside> ok sorry but i wont be much help, all i know is ldap and nothing about AD
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| 13:42 | <[omicron]> well... this is my firs AD (OMG! xD)
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| 13:42 | firsT
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| 13:42 | <dead_inside> lol
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| 13:42 | good luck
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| 13:42 | <[omicron]> my keyb is in holidays...
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| 13:44 | well, thank you for your time
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| 13:44 | I will try to make some GTK-THING to prompt the users
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| 13:44 | pray for me :D
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| 13:44 | <dead_inside> hey no problem, always willing to help
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| 13:45 | real quick, is there a shadowMax attribute in AD?
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| 13:45 | thats the thing in ldap that causes passwords to expire
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| 13:46 | <[omicron]> well in AD you can define some values... for example: you can put a date to expire (totally) the accound (I think this locks the account itself... but I'm not absolutely sure)
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| 13:46 | there is also another value than tells the user that it HAS TO change the password in the next time to logs on the system
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| 13:46 | <dead_inside> maybe if you set the date to expire like a very long time from now they will stop expiring and stop prompting your users
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| 13:47 | <dead_inside> or do you want them to change their passwords?
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| 13:47 | <[omicron]> yes but in spain we've a law about privacy and security and we must change our passwords at least one time a year (in the case of this users...)
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| 13:47 | <muppis> As my experience as user in large systems I had to contact to support person if my password expired.
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| 13:48 | <dead_inside> oh wow
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| 13:48 | <[omicron]> in administration users (who manages money, accounts, etc) it must be changed at least twice
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| 13:48 | <dead_inside> thats got to be a fun law
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| 13:48 | <[omicron]> that's it... fun
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| 13:48 | hahahah
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| 13:49 | and well there is another way to see the problem
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| 13:49 | <[omicron]> if I give you a password (as your sysadmin)... I'm sure than you will change it immediately... or not? ;)
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| 13:50 | <[omicron]> I need to provide (too) this option
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| 13:50 | <dead_inside> lol i would just recommend ldap
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| 13:50 | <[omicron]> I'll be in the same problem
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| 13:50 | the problem is not the password or their expiration
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| 13:51 | <dead_inside> the problems the users
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| 13:51 | <[omicron]> is the logon manager on LTSP
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| 13:51 | for example I put in AD a demo user called dummymaster
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| 13:51 | passwd: n3rds4all
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| 13:52 | the password expires today and the linux system prompts me the time to change it
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| 13:52 | I can change using, kpasswd for example
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| 13:52 | but LTSP logon manager only prints : dummymaster@lstspserver: password
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| 13:52 | then crashes
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| 13:52 | and then restarts itself
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| 13:53 | THIS is the problem
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| 13:53 | hehehe
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| 13:53 | <dead_inside> but your using AD
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| 13:53 | <[omicron]> AD also implements kerberos and ldap
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| 13:53 | <dead_inside> not correctly
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| 13:53 | and according to RFC standards
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| 13:54 | but then again i know nothing about AD, like i didnt even know it integrated with the LDM to be able to change passwords
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| 13:55 | but i know microsoft
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| 13:55 | <[omicron]> let me show something, one sec ;)
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| 13:55 | <dead_inside> kk
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| 13:57 | <[omicron]> shit... I can't find the link :(
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| 13:57 | <dead_inside> lol its ok
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| 13:58 | <[omicron]> well it shows how the ubuntu 11.04 logon manager prompts for the change of the password
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| 13:58 | Password expired: put your current password
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| 13:58 | new password
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| 13:58 | retype
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| 13:58 | ok, all done
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| 13:58 | it is something like that... but in images
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| 13:58 | xD
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| 13:59 | <dead_inside> then use the ubuntu login manager instead of the ltsp one...
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| 13:59 | * dead_inside thought they were the same | |
| 13:59 | <[omicron]> hummm...
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| 13:59 | interesting
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| 14:00 | <dead_inside> i am sure someone around here can tell you how, not sure whos awake right now though
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| 14:01 | <[omicron]> time to read about this ;)
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| 14:01 | thanks a lot
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| 14:01 | <dead_inside> np bud
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| 14:01 | <[omicron]> cu
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| 14:17 | <Hyperbyte> bieb, hi
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| 14:18 | bieb, afaik, home directories aren't created automagically.
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| 14:18 | There maybe some way to do that, but I haven't looked into it
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| 14:18 | But - a user needs a home dir to log in with LTSP. :)
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| 14:20 | <bieb> Hyperbyte: if I login to AD from the server.. it creates their homedir then.
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| 14:20 | Hyperbyte: but the 2 test users in that pastebin, have homedirs already
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| 14:24 | <Hyperbyte> Ah.
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| 14:25 | What happens when you set SCREEN_02 and login to <user>@server from there?
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| 14:25 | <bieb> havent tried that
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| 14:25 | <Hyperbyte> (don't change the @server part)0000000000000000
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| 14:26 | <bieb> so should I just ctrl-alt-f2 and login there?
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| 14:33 | <Hyperbyte> bieb:
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| 14:33 | !screen_02
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| 14:33 | <ltsp> Hyperbyte: screen_02: To get a root shell on an Ubuntu thin client: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ClientTroubleshooting#Using_a_shell_SCREEN
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| 14:33 | <Hyperbyte> Then ssh bieb@server
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| 14:33 | Replace 'bieb' with your username, leave '@server'
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| 14:33 | <bieb> so @server not the actual server name
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| 14:36 | <bieb> after making the lts.conf change, I need to update the image correct?
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| 14:37 | <muppis> bieb, noep. Just reboot the client.
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| 14:37 | <Hyperbyte> bieb, 1st, correct, 2nd, nope.
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| 14:37 | alkisg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111111
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| 14:38 | <alkisg> Hi Hyperbyte - by the pool, so won't be online for long :)
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| 14:39 | <Hyperbyte> Quick question then before you drop your laptop in the water!
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| 14:39 | <Pecker> sup people
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| 14:39 | <alkisg> Hyperbyte: shoot :)
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| 14:39 | <Hyperbyte> On fat clients (ltsp-pnp), the /tmp dir is 512MB tmpfs
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| 14:40 | How can I make this, say, oh, 2 GB?
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| 14:40 | <bieb> alkisg: waterproof keyboard?
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| 14:40 | <alkisg> Hyperbyte: that's made by Ubuntu, not by LTSP, I think tmpfs by default uses half of the client RAM
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| 14:40 | <Hyperbyte> Oh and also - where is tmpfs space actually coming from? Is it stored in RAM memory?
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| 14:40 | <muppis> tmpfs uses ram as long it can, then expands to swap.
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| 14:40 | <alkisg> bieb: hehe, unfortunately not... GLURK... whoops... need to wipe it... :P
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| 14:41 | Hyperbyte: what muppis said :)
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| 14:41 | <muppis> IIRC, tmpfs leaves 1/4 free atleast.
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| 14:41 | <bieb> alkisg: lol
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| 14:41 | <Hyperbyte> muppis, really? So when you type mount and it says tmpfs mounted on /tmp, size 512MB that isn't actually the size?
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| 14:41 | <alkisg> Hyperbyte: so basically you shouldn't care about tmpfs, and if the default 512MB swap isn't enough for you, just increase it
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| 14:42 | <muppis> Hyperbyte, yes.
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| 14:42 | <alkisg> tmpfs grows dynamically
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| 14:42 | (up to the max)
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| 14:42 | <Hyperbyte> Are you guys sure? Because I'm using recording software to record raw audio (Audacity)
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| 14:42 | And it stops after ~50 minutes of recording, which equals around 500 MB data
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| 14:42 | <alkisg> Hyperbyte: although in my real system, /tmp isn't a tmpfs, /run is though
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| 14:43 | <Hyperbyte> And it's not running out of memory (it has 2GB, not running out of swap either)
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| 14:43 | <alkisg> So maybe your recording software tries to do something fancy?
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| 14:43 | <muppis> Hyperbyte, only unsure how much it leaves free, but sure it doesn't eat all and expands to swap.
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| 14:43 | <Hyperbyte> alkisg, it's regular Audacity. I think it's just running out of resources.
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| 14:44 | <bieb> Hyperbyte: I can ssh with both test accounts
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| 14:44 | <Hyperbyte> Let's say for the sake of science I'd want to make it say 1 GB instead of 512 MB. How would I go about doing that?
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| 14:44 | <muppis> man tmpfs ;)
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| 14:44 | <alkisg> Hyperbyte: it sounds to me like it's using NBD swap, not tmpfs
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| 14:45 | So, increase NBD swap to e.g. 2 Gb and see if it helps
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| 14:45 | grep tmp /proc/mounts in the client would help
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| 14:45 | And du/ls on the server /tmp/nbd-swap
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| 14:45 | <Hyperbyte> alkisg, the machine has 2 GB memory, 700 MB used, 1 GB swap, 0 MB used at the moment Audacity stops.
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| 14:46 | muppis, fail. It has no manpage.
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| 14:46 | <muppis> Sounds like it uses swap and only half of it.
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| 14:46 | <alkisg> If audacity forces swap usage instead of ram/tmpfs/whatever, then the swap is the problem
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| 14:46 | What's the swap size? The default is 512 mb normally...
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| 14:46 | <Hyperbyte> Hrm, could be 512 MB
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| 14:46 | <muppis> :D
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| 14:46 | <alkisg> grep tmp /proc/mounts etc
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| 14:47 | <Hyperbyte> Not at the radio station at the moment
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| 14:47 | How do I increase the nbd swap size?
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| 14:48 | Because right now our deejays are recording 2x 30 minute files and I get to paste them together. That's gonna grow old really fast. :)
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| 14:51 | <Hyperbyte> Looks like there's NBD_SWAP_THRESHOLD=800 in the ltsp source code. Where does it get the 512 MB default from?
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| 14:56 | <bieb> Hyperbyte: the odd thing is in that pastebin from yesterday.. it accepts the user's password and authenticates them... it then opens a session.. then subsystem request sftp by user.. that where it disconnects
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| 14:56 | <Hyperbyte> bieb, that's sshfs, which is used for mounting the homedir of the user on the client.
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| 14:57 | <bieb> Hyperbyte: ok.. a permissions error?
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| 15:06 | <Pecker> can someone hilight me a second?
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| 15:09 | <bieb> Pecker: hi
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| 15:10 | <Pecker> hmm
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| 15:10 | <alkisg> Hyperbyte: /etc/nbdswap.conf, SIZE=2048
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| 15:10 | bb in 2 days :)
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| 15:44 | <blakes> Still having trouble with booting thinclient on 12.04. This problem is related to nbd and busybox reporting: Failure: Insufficient information to set up nbd, quitting (nbdroot=:ltsp_i386, host=192.168.0.254, name=ltsp_i386, port=,nbd-device=). Any advice out there?
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| 15:51 | <||cw> blakes: it's missing the port and device name? which is odd... I don't know how to debug that one
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| 15:56 | <blakes> That's what I thought too... i have tried to add that parameter to the nbd-server/conf file but it didn't work.
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| 16:33 | <blakes> I know it sounds like i am begging... at this point not too proud to beg. Still can't crack this nut of thin client on 12.04 not booting. This problem is related to nbd and busybox reporting: Failure: Insufficient information to set up nbd, quitting (nbdroot=:ltsp_i386, host=192.168.0.254, name=ltsp_i386, port=,nbd-device=)
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| 16:57 | <||cw> blakes: care to post your lts.conf on a pastebin? I can compare to mine
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| 16:59 | <blakes> ||cw: http://pastebin.com/HztMy51B
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| 17:04 | <||cw> hm. I have SERVER= in mine, really the only difference.
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| 17:04 | is this a new clean install?
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| 17:04 | <blakes> Nah... its an upgrade from 10.04
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| 17:05 | <||cw> there were many changes from 10.04. did you upgrade the chroot install too?
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| 17:05 | <blakes> server=what? is that ltsp server?
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| 17:05 | <||cw> yes
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| 17:05 | I don't recall why i added it, think maybe i had a thin client with an issue
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| 17:06 | <blakes> and yeah, I did the chroot install, build and update client all night last night in as many ways as possible
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| 17:06 | <||cw> so upgraded server, new clean chroot?
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| 17:07 | <blakes> I don't think i am getting to the point where it is actually loading the image. It's an nbd problem....
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| 17:07 | server is upgraded, clean chroot, installed dnsmasq as directed.
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| 17:09 | <||cw> any harm in purging ltsp from the server and reconfiging it from scratch? I know there were a lot of changes. I have no experience with upgrades though
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| 17:09 | <blakes> in the previous version, the system used ltsp-server-standalone, ics-dhcpd and NAT. dnsmasq replaced all that according to what I read. so being a good little follower....
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| 17:09 | <blakes> Yeah... this is a live system for a school.
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| 17:09 | <||cw> but in general, I've 2 out of 2 12.04 upgrades fail horribly, non-LTS's
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| 17:10 | <||cw> dnsmasq is awesome. I don't think that's the issue since you're getting tftp to the client
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| 17:10 | <blakes> YAY! I do have a dump of 10.04lts... maybe I should start boning up on my restore skills
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| 17:12 | There is a bit of funk about the way the former admin set up the network cards... they are "unmanaged". so dnsmasq won't let me change resolv.conf and so on.
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| 17:12 | <||cw> in your pxelinux.cfg, what's hte append line for your thin clients
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| 17:14 | <blakes> append ro initrd=initrd.img quiet nbd_proxy=false nbdroot=:ltsp_i386
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| 17:14 | IPAPPEND 3
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| 17:16 | Know of any good examples of /etc/network/interfaces for a two NIC setup.
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| 17:17 | heres another thing. When I add the line (as suggested in some quarters) boot=nbd_ltsp the thin client does a total kernel panic and crashes.
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| 17:17 | coffee's ready.brb
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| 17:19 | <||cw> I have nbdroot=10.212.1.38:2000
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| 17:19 | so that's probably it
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| 17:21 | <stgraber> nbdroot=IP:PORT is for the inetd-spawned nbd, that syntax isn't supported in 12.04 and 12.10 (well, probably still kinda work, but the ltsp tools don't expect it to exist anymore)
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| 17:24 | <blakes> stgraber: I did try that config
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| 17:25 | What do you think about taking down the nbd server and returning to the inetd.conf type set up?
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| 17:25 | <stgraber> blakes: it might work, though don't expect it to work indefinitely as LTSP upstream is getting rid of that from the scripts
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| 17:26 | blakes: FWIW I tried a clean 12.04 install yesterday and everything just works (using isc-dhcp-server, tftpd, nbd-server, ... the default stuff)
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| 17:27 | <blakes> Ok... I'm game.... let's talk about a strategy to restore home directories on a from.scratch.server
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| 17:29 | maybe backup /etc/passwd & /etc/shadow, then pull the drive mounted on /home, then install 12.04 from scratch, then restore the passwd/shadow files then install and remount /home?
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| 17:32 | stgraber, can you pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces (assuming that you are using a machine with two NICS)?
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| 17:35 | <stgraber> blakes: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1147245/
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| 17:37 | blakes: you could probably go with something along the lines of (after backing up the relevant files): remove all of /opt/ltsp, remove all of /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp, remove all of /etc/nbd-server, apt-get remove --purge ltsp-server ltsp-server-sandalone nbd-server tftpd-hpa
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| 17:37 | blakes: then apt-get install ltsp-server-standalone and run ltsp-build-client, then restart /etc/init.d/nbd-server
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| 17:37 | that should get you back on the supported isc-dhcp-server + tftpd-hpa with a clean config and chroot
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| 17:37 | <blakes> ooooo that's good.
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| 17:40 | bounce this back to me: since the old admin did a funky network config (unmanaged) something is making port 2000,2001 unavailable. changing to textbook config might help.
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| 18:02 | <elias_a> blakes: So you got tired of sleep-walking upside down and woke up? :P
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| 18:04 | <blakes> Actually (and this may be unfamiliar to you) a good looking blonde came into my office and enticed be to dinner.... it made me forget to log out.
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| 18:05 | ^^enticed me to^^
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| 18:06 | <elias_a> blakes: Dude, women are really dangerous sometimes... :P
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| 18:06 | Actually it is not that unfamiliar to me...
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| 18:07 | In my case she's brunette.
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| 18:07 | <blakes> That's why I married one ;)
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| 18:07 | <elias_a> And I call this brunette my wife ;-)
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| 18:07 | <blakes> So got anything to add to this f*ing nbd issue that was keeping me awake?
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| 18:18 | <mikec> hey all. i'm now able to boot and log in, but after entering my password I'm getting a "Failed to load session "Ubuntu"" message, and when I click ok on it, the client just reboots. In the syslog of my cluster's root server, i see Aug 14 13:10:02 <severname> nbd_server[1187]: Can't open authorization file (null) (Bad address).
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| 18:18 | any ideas appreciated!
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| 18:53 | <mikec> on the thin-client, i log into the image and check the syslog and see kernel: [14.687863] nbd9: unknown partition table
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| 19:13 | <muppis> mikec, normal. Can be ignored.
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| 19:26 | <mikec> ok, then i suppose that doesn't define my problem. I wonder how I can troubleshoot the pop up message that says Failed to load session "Ubuntu"
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| 19:27 | I'm following these instructions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSP-Cluster
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| 19:29 | <muppis> Does that pop up come whe trying to log in?
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| 19:30 | *when
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| 19:30 | <mikec> yes, right after i enter my password
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| 19:30 | im using 12.04 LTS for both the root and app servers
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| 19:32 | <muppis> Try to select different session from Preferences -menu. If that helps, then you're propably missing Unity, which defines Ubuntu -session. But I'm not familiar with cluster, so I don't know where to install that.
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| 19:33 | <mikec> All it gives me are Default and Failsafe xterm
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| 19:33 | not sure what the sessions are all about - didn't appear in any documentation
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| 19:34 | <blakes> Sessions are the windows manager. Xterm will give you a BASIC xwindows environment and should tell you whether or not the nbd server is dishing out its device properly
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| 19:36 | <muppis> mikec, what I read from that cluster howto, you should got ubuntu-desktop -package installed in application server and that package depends from unity.
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| 20:06 | <mikec> ubuntu-desktop is installed on the application server. but here could be another clue: when looking at the terminal logs for the cluster, its showing that the client's appserver is the same ip address as the root server
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| 20:06 | so its not reporting the correct application server ip
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| 20:07 | however, in /etc/ltsp/lbsconfig.xml, I have the proper IP address listed
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| 20:10 | x-session-manager[30726]: WARNING: Session 'ubuntu' runnable check failed: Failed to execute child process "/usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test" (No such file or directory)]
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| 20:12 | and i dont have ubuntu-desktop installed on the root server, so if its looking to use the root server as the application server, this error would make sense
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| 20:12 | so perhaps the problem is that my cluster is not using the application server (i only have one at the moment)
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| 20:26 | <muppis> mikec, you're on track. :) Now need to find why it doesn't find your application server or tries to use root as one.
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| 20:34 | <mikec> is it simply lbsconfig.xml that causes ltsp cluster to find its app servers? or are there other places to look?
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| 20:35 | the lbserver log has a lot of these entries: code 400, message Bad request syntax ('getkey')
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| 20:36 | "getkey" 400 -
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| 20:37 | <blakes> stgraber. You ROCK!! I followed your directions 1) made a back-up. 2) removed /opt/ltsp & /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp & /etc/nbd-server. 3) apt-get remove --purge ltsp-server ltsp-server-sandalone nbd-server tftpd-hpa 4)apt-get install ltsp-server-standalone 5) ltsp-build-client 6) service nbd-server restart
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| 20:37 | <||cw> I kinda sorta hinted at that this morning....
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| 20:38 | <blakes> The tftp server from dnsmasq wasn't working, so I reinstalled tftpd-hpa and POOF!
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| 20:38 | thanks to you too ||cw!
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| 20:39 | <||cw> you shouldn't be able to even get to where it complains about nbd without tftp working
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| 21:02 | <elias_a> blakes: Congrats! :)
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| 22:03 | <igor__> Hi. Is there a way to run LTSP on AWS?
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| 22:04 | <jocarter> short answer: not really
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| 22:05 | <igor__> What/s the reason? I see that Windows Terminal server is available as an AMI
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| 22:09 | <jocarter> you could start an application server on AWS, can't boot from it though, which is core to LTSP
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| 22:10 | otherwise you might actually want something like nx of x2go
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| 22:12 | <muppis> And you will need a good syncronous internet connection to keep it usable.
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| 22:13 | <igor__> I'm trying to understand why is a Terminal server on public cloud impossible / bad idea.
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| 22:14 | <muppis> Mostly its not usable.
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| 22:15 | <igor__> Why? Performance due to bandwith?
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| 22:16 | <muppis> Yes and in LTSP case, it loses point when you need get machine booted somehow to connect outside of lan.
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| 22:16 | <igor__> The thing is I'm building an enterprise application. I don' want it to be a windows application which needs to be installed locally. So I see two options: web and a terminal server.
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| 22:17 | <muppis> I know there are routers that are capable to server dhcp and tftp via dnsmasq.
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| 22:17 | <igor__> Are you familiar with Bloomberg terminal?
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| 22:19 | As I understand it tftp is not very secure. This is a deal breaker for me because the clients are financial services
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| 22:21 | <muppis> Tftp is used only during kernel load so it's no really matter in view of security.
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| 22:22 | <jocarter> igor__: windows terminal clients that boot over the network also uses tftp. but it sounds like your machines already boot some system, so you might want to look into NX.
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| 22:25 | <igor__> Thanks guys. I'll check out nx and x2go
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