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Channel log from 20 September 2012 (all times are UTC)
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| 06:24 | <mealstrom> good morning
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| 06:46 | <knipwim> morning :)
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| 06:49 | <alkisg> Καλημέρα :)
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| 06:51 | <muppis> Huomenta :)
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| 10:17 | <garymc> Hi Guys, im having real problems with my LTSP server. All units keep losing internet connectivity and after about 5 minutes they will get it back, but sometimes its longer and sometimes it quicker to regain connection.
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| 10:17 | How can I troubleshoot this or fix it as it has become a pure bane and I am considering installing windows on each machine so they have internet access without interuption
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| 10:18 | <muppis> Clients go thru server?
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| 10:18 | <garymc> yes but they are FAT clients
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| 10:19 | <garymc> Its not the internet connection because we have machines using the same internet connection that run windows or Mac Os with no problems
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| 10:20 | <muppis> How aboit livecd?
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| 10:20 | About..
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| 10:40 | <xsl> garymc what distro your using?
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| 12:02 | <markit> alkisg: still sshfs working fine and a better choice than nfs?
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| 12:03 | <alkisg> markit: no idea, I haven't heard any complains yet though
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| 12:14 | <NeilSorrel> Apols first for my knowledge level but for a multi distro ltsp environ do you have to have separate ltsp servers ?
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| 12:14 | and anybody managed to run ltsp on bodhi ? as its a super tiny image ?
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| 12:34 | <garymc> xsl its ubuntu
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| 13:00 | <garymc> I have been away for a bit any help would be great
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| 13:00 | Hi Guys, im having real problems with my LTSP server. All units keep losing internet connectivity and after about 5 minutes they will get it back, but sometimes its longer and sometimes it quicker to regain connection.
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| 13:00 | How can I troubleshoot this or fix it as it has become a pure bane and I am considering installing windows on each machine so they have internet access without interuption
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| 13:00 | Its UBUNTU build
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| 13:01 | I dont want to throw away my LTSP setup I just need the internet to stay on as it costs money if it breaks
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| 13:02 | <muppis> garymc, tried those clients with livecd?
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| 13:05 | <garymc> i dont know what that is
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| 13:05 | Its a live system, my staff use it to access a website that we enter information on to
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| 13:06 | <muppis> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/try-ubuntu-before-you-install
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| 13:06 | <garymc> they speak to people on the phone and take down details into a web system
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| 13:07 | oh ok so just install ubuntu on each machine and see how the connection is then?
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| 13:07 | I have 30 machines
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| 13:08 | but shouldnt the internet just work ok through LTSP?
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| 13:08 | <muppis> Should, so that's why try it with livecd to see is it hardware or software problem.
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| 13:09 | garymc, no need to install. Just boot it from Desktop CD and use it as is.
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| 13:09 | <garymc> but I need a solid system that works, if a CD drive fails then im back to square 1
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| 13:09 | that also means burning 30 cds
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| 13:09 | <muppis> Just one.
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| 13:10 | <garymc> just one what?
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| 13:10 | <muppis> Cd
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| 13:10 | You don't need to test them at same time. One by one.
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| 13:12 | <garymc> ok but our problem is intermittent. So the connection fails when it wants to
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| 13:13 | <gothaggis|work> hello, is there a way to see all of the ip addresses that the thin clients have (from when logged into the server that isn't the dhcp server)?
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| 13:14 | <muppis> gothaggis|work, command w shows logged in users and where they's IP.
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| 13:15 | <gothaggis|work> thanks!
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| 14:04 | <Stile> Hello, I'm having a problem with LTSP5 on Ubuntu 12.04. I can't get LDM to allow password changes when a password is expired.
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| 14:05 | Unexpired passwords allow login and LTSP works as expected.
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| 14:09 | The ldm.log on the client shows "CRITICAL: no response, restarting"
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| 14:20 | <mgariepy> apt-cahe show rtl
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| 14:20 | oops hehe ;)
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| 14:21 | Stile, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp/+bug/412197
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| 14:24 | <Stile> So this is expected behavior at this point in time?
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| 14:24 | The final entry is Alkis Georgopoulos (alkisg) on 2012-02-17
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| 14:24 | no longer affects: ldm (Ubuntu)
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| 14:24 | <alkisg> Stile: that's just an organizational comment
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| 14:25 | It means it's not ubuntu specific, it's a distro-agnostic ltsp problem
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| 14:25 | But that bug is not related to what you're asking
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| 14:25 | Password error != password expiration
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| 14:25 | I think ldm has code for password expiration
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| 14:25 | <Stile> True.
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| 14:26 | <alkisg> Not sure if it has been tested/working lately
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| 14:26 | <Stile> I would think that would be a common occurence.
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| 14:26 | <alkisg> Not all installations use a password expiry policy
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| 14:26 | !screen_02
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| 14:26 | <ltsp> screen_02: To get a root shell on an Ubuntu thin client: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ClientTroubleshooting#Using_a_shell_SCREEN
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| 14:27 | <alkisg> You can try `ssh user@server` from screen_02 to test
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| 14:27 | If you get an ssh prompt to update your password,
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| 14:27 | and you're able to change it, and then switch to ldm and login,
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| 14:27 | then yeah we can safely say it's a bug and you need to file it to launchpad
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| 14:27 | Change "user" to an existing user with an expired password, but leave "server" as it is, don't replace it with anything
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| 14:32 | <Stile> using the console I do get a password change prompt.
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| 14:32 | After changing it from the console I am able to login.
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| 14:33 | <Stile> Looks like a bug needs to be filed.
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| 14:44 | <alkisg> !ltsp-bug
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| 14:44 | <ltsp> ltsp-bug: To file a bug report for upstream LTSP, go to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp
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| 15:33 | <gothaggis|work> is there anyway to force all ltsp users to log off each night?
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| 16:07 | <knipwim> gothaggis|work: yes, by setting SHUTDOWN_TIME=12:00:00 in your lts.conf
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| 16:08 | ah, no, that's shutdown
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| 16:08 | but the users will be logged off :)
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| 16:30 | <ltspuser_88> Hello folks
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| 16:30 | Can someone give some help please?
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| 16:31 | <||cw> that's really going to depend on the question
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| 16:31 | <ltspuser_88> hahah
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| 16:32 | is about runing LDM on a local system.
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| 16:32 | i am testing a raspberry pi as thinclinet
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| 16:33 | i tested berryterminal, but it was a lillte slow, and i have no way of see whats is the problem, if it is CPU or network.
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| 16:35 | now i am thinking of running LDM directed from raspbian so i can use htop and other resources to see whats is going on
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| 16:35 | does anyone can help?
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| 16:35 | ||cw:
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| 16:36 | <||cw> are you pxe booting the rpi?
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| 16:36 | <ltspuser_88> nops, raspberry pi does not support this
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| 16:36 | bytheway it is an ARM
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| 16:37 | <||cw> I know about it.
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| 16:37 | <ltspuser_88> oh sorry.
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| 16:37 | <ltspuser_88> so i am just trying to start LDM and make it connect to my LTSP server
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| 16:37 | as berryterminal o does
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| 16:38 | <||cw> have you tried disabling compress/encryption?
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| 16:39 | <ltspuser_88> not on this particular test
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| 16:39 | <||cw> set LDM_DIRECTX=true
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| 16:39 | <ltspuser_88> i could try
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| 16:40 | i will try this
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| 16:40 | but do you know how to configure LDM from a local system?
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| 16:41 | <ogra_> isnt there a recent u-boot for the RPi ? you should be able to PXE boot it
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| 16:41 | you just need an armel nbd image on the server and indeed uImage and uInitrd in the tftp dir
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| 16:43 | <ltspuser_88> ||cw: i guess i am not able to disable SSH compression, cause this conf comes from client right? I am not hable to "edit" any conf on berryterminal
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| 16:43 | ogra_: let me look for it!
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| 16:44 | <||cw> I'm not sure how berryterminal works. it's not impossible for it to grab the servers lts.conf, in fact it would be smart to do so
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| 16:45 | <ltspuser_88> yeah, but the developer said is not getting it right now ..
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| 16:45 | <||cw> seems odd that you wouldn't be able to edit the local file. worst case, you stick the sd card in your pc and edit it, right?
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| 16:47 | <ltspuser_88> it seens that it odes not have the lts.conf
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| 16:47 | let me check
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| 16:47 | the developer implemented part of LDM
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| 16:52 | <||cw> it might be easier to go the pxe route than to build your own arm thin distro
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| 16:54 | <ltspuser_88> ||cw: i am just trying to get LDM to work on raspbian but can't get it right now.. once i teste and see what th eproblem is i might work on a thin distro
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| 16:54 | <vagrantc> nice!
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| 16:54 | * vagrantc would be happy to help, although has limited free time today | |
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| 17:30 | <jammcq> heyllo friends
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| 17:30 | err... hello friends
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| 17:37 | <alkisg> Hello
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| 17:50 | <highvoltage> howdy
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| 18:41 | <alkisg> vagrantc: thanks for the packaging, successfully built on launchpad, will try it tomorro
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| 18:41 | w
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| 18:42 | <vagrantc> yay
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