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Channel log from 11 April 2007 (all times are UTC)
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| 02:59 | <lzap_> hi all
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| 02:59 | !localdev
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| 02:59 | <ltspbot`> lzap_: "localdev" is Information regarding using pluggable devices and cdroms with LTSP can be found at http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LTSP-42-LocalDev
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| 03:02 | <lzap_> when I insert a floppy in the terminal what should I do then? does it automatically recognize floppy in the drive,
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| 03:02 | ?
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| 03:04 | <Bhaskar1> I have downloaded ltsp5 for debian , but how can i install ?
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| 03:06 | dem, hello
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| 04:10 | <lzap_> where can I get ltspfs sources (the 4.2 version) ?
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| 04:10 | I was told to search the WIKI but I didnt find it
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| 04:11 | I need to compile a debug version
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| 04:16 | anyone?
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| 04:19 | http://ltsp.mirrors.tds.net/pub/ltsp/utils/ -- contains binaries only
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| 05:37 | <killsalad> hi all
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| 05:37 | <BlueRaid> hi
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| 05:40 | <killsalad> i've got problem with ATI rage and LTSP-5, when i set XSERVER = ati there is a small black square in the top left corner of the screen
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| 05:40 | <BlueRaid> why you don't use auto?
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| 05:40 | <killsalad> any ideas how to get rid of this?
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| 05:41 | well auto sets it to ati
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| 05:42 | <killsalad> curious it's disapered
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| 05:44 | hm it seams that it is some kind of video memory issue, because when i change resolution it appears for a while and then disapperars
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| 05:49 | <ogra> killsalad, set the HWCursor option
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| 05:49 | gah, he's gone
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| 05:52 | <killsalad> one more thing how can i configure printer in LTSP-5 (xubuntu)
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| 05:52 | <lzap_> what package I need to install when configure of ltspfs says: Perhaps you should add the directory containing `x11.pc'
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| 05:53 | checking for LTSPFSD... configure: error: Package requirements (x11) were not met
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| 05:54 | <ogra> killsalad, set the HWCursor option for yxour yti problem ... since ubuntus Xserver autoconfig doesnt accept that as an option you should go with a static xorg.conf that contains this parameter
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| 05:55 | killsalad, /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/doc/ltsp-client/examples/lts-parameters.txt.gz hasd all options listed ltsp5 accepts ... for a printer it should sufice to set PRINTER_DEVICE_0 in lts.conf
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| 05:55 | s/yti/ati
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| 06:06 | <antgel> hi, in muekow (ltsp5), if i want to make more fonts available for users, i don't install them in the ltsp chroot, do i? should i just install them on the server without going into the chroot?
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| 06:06 | <ogra> right
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| 06:06 | <antgel> thanks
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| 06:07 | i know i could have tried it before asking, but this deployment is very precarious and i need to look authoratitive :)
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| 06:07 | <ogra> :)
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| 06:19 | <lzap_> is v5 stable?
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| 06:22 | <killsalad> back again :)
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| 06:24 | one last problem, when somebody (me) plugs a usbstick in the server's port every ltsp users can see contents of my pendrive, and what's more there are able to modify data on the stick
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| 06:25 | xubuntu 7.04 + LTSP-5
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| 06:38 | <Leo> alguem?
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| 06:43 | Alguem jah teve problema no LTSP-4.2 com a montagem cd CDROM nas estações?
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| 06:57 | * lzap_ gave up LocalDev support in 4.2 on Madriva 2006 and trying to install LTSP-5 on that old distro... | |
| 06:57 | <lzap_> does LTSP-5 have LocalDev support?
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| 07:23 | <ogra> lzap_, yes
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| 07:25 | <antgel> i'm using jetpipe with debian ltsp5, but it seems to lock up from time to time, often with large files. any way i can debug this?
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| 07:27 | <ogra> antgel, hmm ... how much mem does the client have ?
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| 07:28 | jetpipe doesnt have any cache meachanism or something, it just pipes through ... so if the printer isnt fast enough, the kernel will start caching the data somehow in memory ...
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| 07:28 | i'd suggest to enable NBD_SWAP in lts.conf ;)
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| 07:28 | <antgel> ogra: also, sometimes it's printing gibberish
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| 07:29 | ogra: client has 128MB
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| 07:29 | <ogra> can also be a out of mem problem ... try if adding swap helps
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| 07:29 | <antgel> will do
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| 07:30 | ogra: NBD_SWAP not USE_NFS_SWAP?
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| 07:30 | <ogra> jetpipe is still very young ... sadly the licensing of lp_server is broken else we could have kept it ...
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| 07:50 | <antgel> ogra: how do i control swapfile size with USE_NBD_SWAP? SWAPFILE_SIZE = 128m doesn't work
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| 08:01 | <cliebow_> ogra: you come across an fsck at every boot ..saying it hasnt been checked for 11998 days?
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| 08:01 | in ppc?
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| 08:02 | <ogra> seems your HW clock is off
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| 08:08 | * lzap_ suggest to use "mktemp" command instead "tempfile" in ltsp-update-sshkeys | |
| 08:08 | <lzap_> tempfile is not present in older distros
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| 08:11 | <ogra> how old would that be ?
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| 08:13 | <ogra> (we surely wont care about stuff like FC4, but if you send a bzr branch url with a sane fix i'll happily merge it ;) )
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| 08:20 | <antgel> did anyone answer me ^^ re nbd swapfile size? my laptop battery ran out :/
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| 08:21 | <ogra> antgel, grep SIZE /usr/sbin/nbdswapd ;)
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| 08:22 | <ogra> and see /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/doc/ltsp-client/examples/lts-parameters.txt.gz ... use NBD_SWAP=True
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| 08:24 | <antgel> ogra: grr, only file in there is /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/doc/ltsp-client/examples/lts.conf
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| 08:25 | <cliebow_> lemme look
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| 08:27 | antgel..no gz in there?
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| 08:28 | <lzap_> haha ubuntu LTSP-5 kernel does not fit in memory when loading...
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| 08:28 | <antgel> ogra: no :(
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| 08:29 | <lzap_> whats wrong? the terminal has 256MB RAM
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| 08:29 | I am getting: segment [xxxxx] does not fit in any memory region
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| 08:35 | <antgel> cliebow_: would be ever so grateful
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| 08:35 | <cliebow_> what is the client??
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| 08:35 | shall do
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| 08:36 | <ltsppbot> "cliebow" pasted "lts params" (155 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/93
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| 08:36 | <lzap_> whats wrong with the kernel size?
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| 08:37 | <antgel> so there's no way to set swapsize via lts.conf in muekow?
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| 08:37 | cliebow_: thank you btw
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| 08:38 | <cliebow_> 8~)
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| 09:18 | <lzap_> LTSP-5 Ubuntu now boots on Mandriva 2006 server, but booting process hangs
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| 09:19 | I can see 2% progress, the screen is frozen /Ubuntu logo/
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| 09:19 | how could I boot without this framebuffer?
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| 09:21 | <cliebowx> lzap_:pxelinus?
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| 09:21 | lzap_:pxelinux/
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| 09:21 | Balls!
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| 09:26 | <lzap_> wow pxelinux works
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| 09:26 | but it cant mount the root
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| 09:27 | I am getting "bad file descriptor"
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| 09:27 | <cliebowx> so nfs is ok? portma?
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| 09:27 | <cliebowx> perhaps showmount -e will verify that nfs is ok?
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| 09:27 | <lzap_> 192.168.47.128:/opt/ltsp/ubuntu_6.10_i3
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| 09:27 | <pc01> hi
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| 09:28 | <lzap_> it seems it doesnt read full path
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| 09:28 | is it limited or something?
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| 09:28 | the path ends with "i386"
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| 09:28 | and thats what I have in my DHCP conf
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| 09:28 | <cliebowx> lzap_:in dhcp.conf do you have the server ip in the root-path statenment?
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| 09:28 | <pc01> Hi i've got local printer when i add one in kde he prints nothing, but kde find the printer
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| 09:28 | <lzap_> yup: option root-path "192.168.47.128:/opt/ltsp/ubuntu_6.10_i386";
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| 09:29 | <cliebowx> you need only /opt/ltsp/i386
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| 09:30 | <pc01> can i see in a log that the pc became a file to print?
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| 09:31 | <ogra> lzap_, drop the ip
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| 09:32 | <lzap_> really?
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| 09:32 | ok
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| 09:32 | <cliebowx> hmm..guess i shoulderloooked a little closer
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| 09:33 | so you have a fhen..older /opt/ltsp/ubuntu--> then..not /opt/ltsp/i386?
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| 09:33 | Good Grief!
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| 09:33 | so you have a folder /opt/ltsp/ubuntu*
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| 09:35 | <lzap_> yes i have
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| 09:35 | I am installint v5
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| 09:35 | installing...
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| 09:35 | it mounts now but the boot process ends after several lines, the last message is "eth0 link is up"
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| 09:37 | hmmm bad
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| 09:38 | it seems its trying to load from .254 address
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| 09:38 | my tftp server is .128 (the same as the DHCP server)
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| 09:38 | <cliebowx> tftp only loads the kernel
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| 09:39 | your nfs is on sam machine as dhcp server/
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| 09:40 | <lzap_> yes
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| 09:40 | sorry, nfs is on the same machine
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| 09:41 | after the message link is up it halts for several minutes and then tries to load from 192.168.47.254...
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| 09:42 | I am there!
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| 09:42 | ldm shows!
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| 09:42 | <lzap_> oh I have clicked on "languages" and the window doesnt want to close :-D
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| 09:43 | ah theres a close button, I had to scroll down
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| 09:43 | I login but the screen is blank for 2 seconds and then ldm appears. how to configure ldm?
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| 09:44 | <ogra> run ltsp-update-sshkeys on the server
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| 09:44 | <pc01> How can i see , that or that a print job not came to the client? In a log?
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| 09:44 | <ogra> your ssh keys on the client are not up to date
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| 09:48 | <lzap_> I did run it
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| 09:48 | <lzap_> result: Setting up ssh_known_hosts in: /opt/ltsp/ubuntu_6.10_i386
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| 09:48 | <ogra> right
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| 09:49 | and adding your server
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| 09:49 | so ldm knows it if it wants to connect
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| 09:49 | next release of ldm will have more clear error handling to tell you whats wrong
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| 09:50 | <lzap_> still cannot login
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| 09:50 | [16:48] <ogra> and adding your server -- what you mean exactly?
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| 09:50 | <ogra> ltsp-update-sshkeys should generate keys for your server and add them to ssh_known_hosts in the client environment
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| 09:51 | at least thats what it does on ubuntu and debian :)
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| 09:51 | <lzap_> the keys are there
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| 09:51 | ll try to reboot
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| 09:51 | <ogra> also make sure that your ssh server is running on the server and allows X forwarding
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| 09:52 | ... should be enabled on all recent distros by default ...
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| 09:54 | <cberlo> ogra: What are the odds of getting your thoughts on Active Directory? :)
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| 09:55 | <ogra> i have had no microsoft software near me since ages, so i'm likely not the right person for a tech review :) but i heard the auth stuff shall work fine, whie the directoy mounting is tricky
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| 09:56 | <cberlo> I knew there was a reason I liked you... ;)
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| 09:56 | Okay, I'll bug someone else. I know my server isn't in the "standard" shape you Ubuntu folk support....
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| 09:57 | <ogra> actually there is no kind of network authentcation we officially support yet afaik
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| 09:57 | <cberlo> Yeah, that's a feisty+1 kinda thing, isn't it?
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| 09:58 | <ogra> yep, even though i dont know about the server side that might even be a +2 or later thing
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| 09:58 | we wont support anything half breeded and developing a proper solution takes time
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| 09:59 | <cberlo> Okay. I'm sure you guys will get it. I'm patient! Just need to work around the issue for now with my existing setup. I'll get a complete rebuild with Proper Ubuntu going when you guys have it ready.
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| 09:59 | <lzap_> reboot didnt help
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| 09:59 | <cberlo> ttyl
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| 09:59 | <lzap_> ogra: aaah forwarding...
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| 09:59 | <cliebowx> cberlo:dont suppose you can isolate your time issue to pam or samba?
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| 10:00 | <lzap_> ogra: lemme se
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| 10:00 | <cliebowx> heh
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| 10:00 | <lzap_> well its running and it has: X11Forwarding yes
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| 10:00 | <ogra> X11Forwarding yes is the option in your sshd_config
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| 10:00 | <lzap_> :-(
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| 10:01 | <ogra> hmm, then check yur users .xsession-errors
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| 10:01 | <lzap_> ldm does not let me in
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| 10:01 | ok
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| 10:01 | <ogra> the server is not ubuntu/debian, right ?
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| 10:02 | <lzap_> server is Mandriva 2006 ;-)
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| 10:02 | <ogra> ah
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| 10:02 | <lzap_> not my choice...
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| 10:02 | _X11TransSocketINETConnect() can't get address for localhost:6010: Name or service not known
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| 10:02 | many times in the .xsessin-errors
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| 10:03 | I use KDE, not GNOME... maybe a problem with that?
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| 10:04 | <ogra> no
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| 10:04 | a system problem
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| 10:04 | <lzap_> xsetroot: unable to open display 'localhost:10.0'
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| 10:04 | <ogra> debian based systems have a default X session in /etc/X11/Xsession
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| 10:04 | its likely you dont have that
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| 10:04 | <lzap_> /usr/X11R6/bin/xauth: (argv):1: bad display name "localhost:10.0" in "list" command
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| 10:04 | <ogra> the _X11TransSocketINETConnect is unrelated to ltsp
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| 10:05 | <lzap_> I have got the file
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| 10:05 | <ogra> at least there is nothing usinng port 6010
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| 10:06 | try setting LDM_REMOTECMD=/usr/bin/startkde ... or however the default kde session is called
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| 10:06 | in your lts.conf in the client environment
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| 10:08 | <lzap_> okay I will continue tomorrow, thanks for help. I will try that...
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| 10:08 | <ogra> you will be the first person running ltsp5 on mandriva btw :)
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| 10:09 | would probably be nice to take notes so you could put some documentation up for others
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| 10:09 | <lzap_> of course, I will do. see ya tomorrow.
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| 10:10 | <ogra> ciao
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| 10:10 | <lzap_> our client need to run local devices
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| 10:10 | and I must enable it
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| 10:10 | <ogra> check the lts.conf file, if the tarball was recent it should be enabled by default
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| 10:10 | heh ... gone
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| 10:26 | <SBNet> anyone available to help?
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| 10:27 | <cliebowx> available yes..to help..not so sure
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| 10:28 | <SBNet> lol
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| 10:28 | ok, i got my new ltsp server up and running, woohooo!
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| 10:28 | <cliebowx> Woohoo!
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| 10:28 | <SBNet> problem is that tftp isn't working right, but it's setup the same as the vmware machine that is currently running ltsp
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| 10:29 | if i tftp to it from itself, i get files fine. if i try it from another computer, i get a timeout
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| 10:29 | firewall is off and selinux is off
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| 10:29 | server is running
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| 10:30 | <cliebowx> for the hell of it.why not post results of netstat -anp|grep ":69"
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| 10:32 | <SBNet> ok
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| 10:32 | just a sec
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| 10:32 | <cliebowx> unfortunately jim and scottie are travelling today..
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| 10:33 | <SBNet> http://www.pastebin.ca/434694
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| 10:34 | <Lumiere> a
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| 10:35 | <cliebowx> that looks great!..what else could be borking it? hosts.allow..hosts.deny/
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| 10:36 | <SBNet> used ltspcfg to set those up
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| 10:36 | but i'll post to pastebin
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| 10:38 | <SBNet> www.pastebin.ca/434703 is hosts
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| 10:39 | www.pastebin.ca/434707 is hosts.allow
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| 10:40 | <cliebowx> Whoa...this is 4.2/
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| 10:40 | ?
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| 10:41 | <SBNet> yeah, everyone said to use 4.2 so i use 4.2
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| 10:41 | would it be better to use 5?
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| 10:41 | <cliebowx> i Love 4.2..whish tftp server..i know you said before..
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| 10:41 | !tftp
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| 10:41 | <ltspbot> cliebowx: Error: "tftp" is not a valid command.
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| 10:42 | <SBNet> the only difference between my vmware machine and my true server is vmware uses fc5 and server uses fc6
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| 10:42 | the default tftp server in fc6, package is tftp-server
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| 10:42 | lol
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| 10:42 | should i try another server?
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| 10:42 | see if it works then
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| 10:42 | <cliebowx> http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/TFTP
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| 10:42 | i think you need to switch
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| 10:43 | <SBNet> so why would it work in fc5 but not in fc6?
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| 10:43 | that's a good question i think!!!
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| 10:43 | :)
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| 10:43 | <cliebowx> hmm.
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| 10:44 | i am using tftp-server-0.39-1
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| 10:46 | <ltsppbot> "cliebow" pasted "/etc/xinetd.d/tftp" (19 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/94
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| 10:47 | <SBNet> ok, i get in my log for tftp no route to host from the tftp server to my remote host
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| 10:48 | <cliebowx> fwiw..you can pastebot your dhcpd.conf
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| 10:49 | <SBNet> can't pastebot the dhcpd.conf, it's hosted on a windows 2003 server and it's setup right, cause the clients are booting from the vmware box,not this server so i should be able to change them out
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| 10:49 | once i get this tftp issue fixed
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| 10:50 | <cliebowx> ahhh...
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| 10:53 | <cliebowx> so youve used options 17 66 and 67 in windows dhcp
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| 10:54 | <SBNet> yep all that is right, just can't tftp, it's something in the server. i'm trying tftp from my laptop on the terminal and i connect, but can't get anything
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| 10:55 | <cliebowx> laptop to server you mean..
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| 10:56 | <SBNet> yeah, my laptop typing tftp 10.40.0.29 and then trying get test.txt
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| 10:56 | and the log keeps reporting no route to host
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| 11:04 | <cliebowx> boot-server host name in option 66 is by ip?
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| 11:05 | <SBNet> all is by ip, so i can swap servers and clients won't know
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| 11:07 | <cliebowx> sure there is just one dhcp-server..
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| 11:07 | <SBNet> yes
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| 11:07 | * cliebowx cliebow grasps at straws | |
| 11:07 | <SBNet> if there wasn't we would have all kinds of havok
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| 11:08 | i'm trying to figure out why i can ssh to the box from any of my computers but tftp won't get anything
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| 11:08 | let me try a send
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| 11:08 | or put rather
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| 11:10 | that didn't work either
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| 11:10 | WHY CAN'T YOU ROUTE TO MY LAPTOP!!!!!
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| 11:11 | or my desktop for that matter
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| 11:12 | <cliebowx> steady..man
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| 11:12 | 8~)
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| 11:13 | <SBNet> it doesn't make any sense that the sam config of two machines doesn't work. i can ssh, i can http i can https i can even telnet and ftp but tftp ohhhhh no
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| 11:14 | brb
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| 11:14 | what about this mtu setting under ehternet device? could it change something?
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| 11:15 | <vagrantc> is it different?
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| 11:15 | <SBNet> it just has a thing that says set mtu to then a box to change the mtu number you can enable or disable it
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| 11:17 | * vagrantc was just asking if there was a difference in the mtu settings between the two servers | |
| 11:18 | <SBNet> i don't think so, brb this time for real
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| 11:21 | <ltsppbot> "cliebow" pasted "syslog" (7248 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/95
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| 11:21 | <ogra> cliebow, you are crazy ... 7k to a pastebot :)
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| 11:22 | <dmorar> hi, i would like to know if there is a way to limit my users to have only one active session, i'm having problems, because they forget to log out and then they go into another machine and log in, so they can't open firefox, openoffice... because its already openned
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| 11:23 | <cliebow__> ok.point taken...what would you like done with it..
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| 11:24 | never looked for size 8~)
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| 11:26 | <ogra> cliebow__, see #edubuntu
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| 11:26 | <cliebow__> roger
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| 11:27 | <ogra> heh, and we should stop cross posting on IRC *g*
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| 11:27 | <cliebow__> 8~)
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| 11:39 | <SBNet> cliebow: i think i'll try moving my vmware box over and seeing if that works
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| 11:54 | <blinky_ghost> hi can anybody tell me how do I remote control a terminal on ltsp5? I installed x11vnc but it doesn't work
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| 12:00 | <ogra> blinky_ghost, x11vnc doesnt have an initscript ... you need to write one and as well make sure to connect the vnc server to the right display (in ltsp5 usually :6)
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| 12:00 | <blinky_ghost> ok, thanks
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| 12:00 | <ogra> for testing just set a rootpw in the client chroot and log in on the console on the terminal
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| 12:01 | <vagrantc> "With x11vnc you can export your currently running X11 session to any VNC client.
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| 12:01 | <ogra> right
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| 12:02 | <vagrantc> so, wouldn't you log in and run x11vnc, rather than running an init script?
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| 12:02 | <ogra> but x11vnc has a horrible amount of manual options you need to set to make it run properly
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| 12:02 | <vagrantc> ah.
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| 12:02 | <ogra> well, you can make it run from an initscript and conncet to the ldm display
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| 12:02 | that should work just fine ...
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| 12:04 | <vagrantc> it's been a while since i messed with this stuff
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| 12:05 | <cliebow__> vagrantc: login via ssh is what i do with it..from Teach2.py which is a python gui
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| 12:05 | at least with 4.2
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| 12:06 | Karl Runge wrote it..He is a real nice guy if anything needs tweaking
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| 12:06 | <ogra> vagrantc, i plan to have a proper initscript in the thin-client-manager package for feisty+1
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| 12:06 | so just installing the x11vnc package should suffice then ...
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| 12:07 | (and thats even something i can let update-managet handle directly from the TCM gui with a button or something ... it got so easy to make apps instal packages in ubuntu :) )
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| 12:08 | apt and aptitude so last century :)
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| 12:08 | +are
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| 12:08 | vagrantc, btw, will we meet in spain or not ?
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| 12:09 | <vagrantc> ogra: looks promising :)
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| 12:09 | <ogra> rich didnt tell me anything what you guys talked about
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| 12:09 | he just told me he was talking to you
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| 12:09 | <vagrantc> ogra: got the official invite this morning
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| 12:09 | <ogra> YAY
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| 12:10 | did you tell jammcq and sbalneav ? we can have a big ltsp tapas session :)
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| 12:10 | even though i suspect its not enough meat in tapas for jammcq
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| 12:10 | <vagrantc> "tapas" ?
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| 12:11 | well, jammcq can have all the meat i would've eaten.
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| 12:11 | <ogra> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tapas
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| 12:12 | the best you can eat in spain :)
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| 12:13 | <vagrantc> sounds good, minus the squid
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| 12:13 | <ogra> you arent even vegaquarian ?
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| 12:13 | i thougt you eat fish
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| 12:13 | <vagrantc> oh, i guess i was focusing on the olives.
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| 12:13 | <ogra> heh
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| 12:13 | <vagrantc> if it swam, flew or walked, i don't generally eat it
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| 12:14 | actually, if it locomoted, i don't generally eat it
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| 12:15 | mmmmmm... aioli
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| 12:15 | * ogra cant help to think of the simpsons "i'm a fourth leevel vegan, i dont eat anything that drops a shadow" :) | |
| 12:15 | <blinky_ghost> don't forget to try the paella :P
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| 12:15 | <Lumiere> so you eat eggs and milk?
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| 12:15 | <ogra> blinky_ghost, bad idea for vegetarians :)
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| 12:15 | <Lumiere> yea
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| 12:15 | paella almost always has meat
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| 12:15 | lots of meat
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| 12:16 | <ogra> and fish
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| 12:16 | and often chicken
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| 12:16 | <blinky_ghost> paella with sea food it's best thing you eat in spain ;-)
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| 12:17 | <vagrantc> i eat eggs and milk products, but i sometimes avoid even those.
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| 12:17 | all this food talk makes me want to skip work. :)
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| 12:17 | * vagrantc waves | |
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| 12:17 | <Lumiere> lol
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| 12:20 | <ogra> heh
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| 13:18 | <SBNet> what is the recommended tftp server? tftp-hp or something like that
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| 13:20 | <sepski> i use atftpd
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| 13:20 | <ogra> ubuntu/debian use tftpd-hpa by default
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| 13:26 | <SBNet> where can i get it for fedora? cause i think the tftp server that comes with fedora 6 is broken, twice i've tried and it doesn't work, but fedora 5 works fine so it must be in fedora 6
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| 13:29 | <jammcq> hey kids
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| 13:34 | <ogra> jammcq, !
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| 13:34 | jammcq, we'll have tapas with vagrant :)
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| 13:38 | <twinprism> SBNet: You may try looking how K12LTSP does it on fedora 6 for a clue.
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| 13:38 | <cliebow__> jamcq!!
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| 13:38 | jammcq!!
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| 13:38 | <ogra> !s
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| 13:38 | <ltspbot> ogra: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 13:38 | <sbalneav> Afternoon all!
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| 13:39 | Hey Ogra!
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| 13:39 | <cliebow__> !
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| 13:39 | <sbalneav> Greetings from Porto Alegre!
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| 13:39 | <cliebow__> Cool! you got there!!
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| 13:39 | <ogra> unlike jono
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| 13:39 | <sbalneav> Yes, we did.
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| 13:41 | <cliebow__> remember:jammcq promised to eat foe me too!
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| 13:43 | <sbalneav> Jono not make it yet?
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| 13:43 | * sbalneav checks planet | |
| 13:44 | <ogra> seems there was something weird with his flight ...
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| 13:44 | i have no details though
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| 13:44 | <jammcq> hey
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| 13:44 | !s
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| 13:44 | <ltspbot> jammcq: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 13:53 | <sbalneav> Hey jammc
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| 14:23 | <SBNet> ok here's a questions for you guys
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| 14:24 | my new server is working and my client gets an ip and boots the image, but when it goes to mount the nfs it gets permission denied, why?
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| 14:43 | <jammcq> SBNet: check your /etc/exports file
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| 14:44 | and do this: showmount -e
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| 14:45 | <cliebow_> SBNet: you get tftp squared up then ???
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| 14:47 | <SBNet> yep, tftp is working now
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| 14:48 | <cliebow_> what was the deal?
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| 14:48 | <SBNet> don't know, uninstalled it then reinstalled it and it started working fine
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| 14:49 | <cliebow_> just being bitchyu
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| 14:49 | <SBNet> i did showmount -e and it said can't get address for einsteind <- my server name but in dhcp it is all done using ips
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| 14:49 | yep
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| 14:49 | <cliebow_> your /etc/exports file governs what is nfs shared..give that a peek..or is that fixed too
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| 14:50 | <SBNet> would the nfs mount be an issue if my server is on 10.40.0.* and my client ip is 10.40.1.* but my subnet is 255.255.254.0 so all can talk, but the hosts doesn't have 10.40.1.* addresses only 10.40.0.*
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| 14:50 | <knitoperu> Hi eveybody
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| 14:51 | <SBNet> ok heres' the exports lines
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| 14:51 | /opt/ltsp 10.40.0.0/255.255.254.0(ro,no_root_squash,sync)
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| 14:52 | <knitoperu> do you know how can I allow access from the internet to my ltsp server, only for some users?
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| 14:52 | <cliebow_> take their browser away??
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| 14:52 | <SBNet> /var/opt/ltsp/swapfiles 10.40.0.0/255.255.254.0(rw,no_root_squash,async)
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| 14:52 | <jammcq> "FROM" or "TO" the internet ?
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| 14:53 | SBNet: what's your broadasts set to ?
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| 14:53 | <knitoperu> FROM the internet
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| 14:53 | (via VNC)
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| 14:53 | <SBNet> 10.40.1.255
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| 14:53 | <cliebow_> SBNet life depends on a good broadcast addrss..
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| 14:54 | <jammcq> that seems correct fora 254.0 mask
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| 14:54 | <SBNet> it is
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| 14:54 | if it was 255.255.255.0 it would just be 10.40.0.255
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| 14:54 | <jammcq> SBNet: and 'showmount -e' didn't work?
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| 14:54 | <SBNet> if it was 255.255.252.0 it would be 10.40.3.255
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| 14:54 | nope said it couldn't get an address
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| 14:55 | <jammcq> SBNet: too many people don't have a clue about that broadcast/netmask stuff
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| 14:55 | <SBNet> can't get address for einstein
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| 14:55 | <jammcq> what is 'einstein' ?
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| 14:55 | <SBNet> well, luckly i'm cisco certified and the network admin
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| 14:55 | my server
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| 14:56 | <cliebow_> is einstein entered wierd in /etc/hosts??
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| 14:56 | <SBNet> nope
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| 14:57 | <jammcq> i'm guessing einstein isn't even in /etc/hosts
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| 14:57 | <SBNet> my line for einstein is
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| 14:57 | ::1 einstein localhost.localdomain localhost
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| 14:57 | <jammcq> hmm, ipv6 stuff
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| 14:57 | <SBNet> ipv6 is off
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| 14:57 | <cliebow_> SBNEt:You're scasring your partner
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| 14:57 | <SBNet> i don't use it but fc6 for some reason adds it in there
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| 14:58 | <cliebow_> yeah it did that in netstat for m
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| 14:58 | me
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| 14:58 | do netstat -anp|grep ":2049"
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| 14:58 | <SBNet> i'm booting my vmware server to check it out and see if there is a diff
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| 14:58 | <cliebow_> have bunch of dots therte too?
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| 14:59 | i post4ed on this ipv6 stuff
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| 14:59 | <SBNet> nope it's right
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| 15:00 | <ltsppbot> "SBNet" pasted "tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:2049 0.0.0.0:*" (2 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/96
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| 15:00 | <cliebow_> so like 0.0.0.0:2049?
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| 15:01 | tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:2049 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN -
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| 15:01 | <SBNet> !sbnet
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| 15:01 | <ltspbot> SBNet: "sbnet" is great!
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| 15:02 | * cliebow_ cliebow is goink home | |
| 15:02 | <SBNet> why?
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| 15:02 | <cliebow_> let thge dogs out..ill be in from there..
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| 15:02 | <SBNet> well, i might try a restart of the server and see if that does any good
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| 15:03 | <jammcq> what is your root-path set to?
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| 15:03 | <cliebow_> hasta la vista...get that showmount command to work ..8~)\
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| 15:03 | <SBNet> depends, which option is that?
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| 15:03 | <cliebow_> 17
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| 15:03 | <SBNet> i have a 2003 windows dhcp
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| 15:03 | ohh ohhh i know this one
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| 15:04 | i think /opt/ltsp
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| 15:04 | <str4nd> /opt/ltsp/i386 maybe
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| 15:04 | <SBNet> i don't now right now, haven't looked at it in a day or so
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| 15:04 | mostlikely
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| 15:04 | <cliebow_> just remember windows pads that
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| 15:04 | <jammcq> well, it has to match, or be a subdir of whatever you are exporting in /etc/exports
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| 15:04 | <SBNet> according to my laptop it is /opt/ltsp/i386
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| 15:04 | <str4nd> SBNet: I have Win Server 2003 too.. (dhcp)
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| 15:04 | <SBNet> line from laptop trying to boot ltsp
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| 15:05 | <cliebow_> so if you put /opt/ltsp/i386 windows will translate that to look for /opt/ltsp/i386000
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| 15:05 | <str4nd> SBNet: I can get configs to you at thursday
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| 15:05 | <SBNet> mounting root filesystem: /opt/ltsp/i386 from 10.40.0.10
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| 15:05 | <cliebow_> hmm maybe 2003 is fixed
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| 15:05 | <SBNet> well, ltsp works with my vmware machine, just switching it over to a dedicated server
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| 15:05 | <str4nd> good night ->
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| 15:06 | <SBNet> 2003 doesn't pad
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| 15:07 | <knitoperu> I use to access my server from my home via Internet. login with my name and with root
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| 15:07 | I have a very strong password for me and for root
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| 15:07 | but others users have not strong passwords
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| 15:08 | I want to limit acces from the internet for them
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| 15:09 | I have fount in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/security some files that seems to manage that kind os security
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| 15:09 | <jammcq> hmm, no, I don't think that's what you need to change
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| 15:10 | knitoperu: do you know their IP address from where they are coming?
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| 15:10 | <knitoperu> I want to make my server safer from Internet's attacks
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| 15:11 | if my users have weak passwords... And it's difficult to control the strongest of my users passordw
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| 15:12 | I can Deny all the trafic from the internet (via iptables) but I will deny my access too
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| 15:12 | Can I limit some users login?
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| 15:12 | <jammcq> I really don't know
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| 15:13 | <knitoperu> or allow some users login via some rth?
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| 15:13 | <jammcq> this is a vnc issue, not an LTSP issue
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| 15:13 | <knitoperu> via some eth?
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| 15:13 | ok
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| 15:13 | I will search vnc documentation
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| 15:14 | but I think that it could be an usual backdoor for ltsp servers
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| 15:14 | <jammcq> only if you use vnc
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| 15:14 | LTSP has nothing to do with vnc
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| 15:14 | <knitoperu> I have not an vnc server installed!!!
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| 15:14 | <jammcq> it's a backdoor for "Linux" servers
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| 15:15 | not necessarily LTSP servers
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| 15:15 | <knitoperu> I access my ltsp server from port 5900, that i think is installed by ltsp
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| 15:15 | <jammcq> no
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| 15:15 | it might be installed by 'k12ltsp', but not by 'ltsp
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| 15:15 | '
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| 15:15 | <SBNet> 5900 is the vnc port
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| 15:15 | <knitoperu> (I use k12ltsp... could be a k12ltsp issue?)
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| 15:15 | <SBNet> default prot
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| 15:16 | <jammcq> it's the "k12" part of k12ltsp
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| 15:16 | <knitoperu> ahhhhh, ok
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| 15:16 | that I will search in k12ltsp documentation
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| 15:16 | <jammcq> and you should NEVER put a k12ltsp server directly on the internet
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| 15:16 | <SBNet> hey, guess what, a restart fixed it
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| 15:16 | <jammcq> there should always be a firewall between the server and the internet, that would filter out (or allow) connections
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| 15:16 | <SBNet> no idea what the hell that was about but it fixed it
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| 15:16 | <jammcq> SBNet: I was gonna suggest you do: exportfs -ra
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| 15:17 | to re-export the exports
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| 15:17 | <knitoperu> SBNet: That's a windows method!!!! the reboot
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| 15:17 | <SBNet> still waiting on a desktop, just got a grey screen with an x or a cursor
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| 15:17 | well i had to reboot to update the kernel so it was kinda nessesary
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| 15:17 | <knitoperu> lol
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| 15:18 | <SBNet> windows has to restart if it updates a text file
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| 15:18 | <jammcq> windows has to restart if you move the mouse
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| 15:18 | <SBNet> linux only restarts if there is a kernel update
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| 15:19 | lol
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| 15:19 | <knitoperu> jammcq: If I find a way to limit access for some users? Do you think that It would remain unsafe to connect my k12 to internet?
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| 15:19 | <jammcq> knitoperu: yes
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| 15:19 | there's other services that you shouldn't be exposing to the internet, like mountd
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| 15:19 | knitoperu: if you really know what you are doing, you can configure iptables to make your system MUCh more safe
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| 15:20 | <knitoperu> jammcq: I have a shorewall in my k12, denyng all but some services (I allow VNC)
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| 15:21 | jammcq: I can allow VNC only for my home's IP
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| 15:21 | <SBNet> maybe it's just me but this is taking way tooo long
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| 15:21 | it ran faster on my vmware server
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| 15:22 | <jammcq> SBNet: what's your 'SERVER' parameter set to in lts.conf ?
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| 15:22 | <SBNet> who knows, maybe it will work after an full update only 551mb
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| 15:22 | umm just a sec, should be right, but i did have a problem once cause of changing ips, forgot to check that
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| 15:23 | yep, set to another ip that i haven't ever used on this server
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| 15:23 | figure that out
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| 15:23 | <SBNet> i always forget about that server option
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| 15:24 | definately gotta change that xdmcp login screen tooo plain and ugly
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| 15:25 | <SBNet> now if i can just get it to authenticate using ldap against my active directory server, i'll be set
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| 15:25 | <michael> Hello, I have a local device problem
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| 15:26 | <michael> is there an local dev expert on the list
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| 15:26 | Jim :-)) ?
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| 15:26 | <jammcq> scotty is the local app guy, and he's taking a nap right now, after about 24 hours of travelling
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| 15:27 | <michael> puh, no good time
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| 15:28 | he asked me to send some trouble shooting data, but he did not resp for a week
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| 15:28 | this might be the reason ?
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| 15:28 | Guess I wait.
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| 15:28 | <jammcq> could be. he's a very busy guy
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| 15:28 | <SBNet> what's the issue with local device support?
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| 15:28 | <michael> I got the impression
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| 15:29 | <jammcq> what's the problem?
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| 15:29 | <michael> you all do a great job!
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| 15:29 | the prob is simple... I get not icons for local devs
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| 15:29 | <jammcq> what distro?
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| 15:29 | <michael> but... all test are positive
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| 15:29 | openSUSE 10.2
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| 15:29 | <jammcq> ugh
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| 15:29 | <michael> agree
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| 15:29 | <jammcq> i'm really not familiar with suse
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| 15:30 | is it 64-bit too?
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| 15:30 | making it even trickier
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| 15:30 | <michael> 32
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| 15:30 | <jammcq> we've been inviting Novell in, to become active in LTSP. They've chosen to go their own route
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| 15:31 | <michael> I am kind of in the loop, but I am far away from been Novel or SuSE
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| 15:31 | <SBNet> by default though you should be getting a folder icon for local devices
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| 15:31 | <michael> there is absolutely nothing
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| 15:32 | I can fire of the eventhandler manually this works
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| 15:34 | <SBNet> got me, last time i messed with suse was in like 9.2 i think
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| 15:34 | <michael> Jim, Daniel do you think we can follow this up or should we wait for Scott an I will post a solution on the mailing list
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| 15:34 | <SBNet> and that was just for a few weeks then off to fedora
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| 15:35 | <michael> well 9.2 was not too bad
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| 15:35 | <michael> the last real SuSE version
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| 15:35 | how ever SuSE was and is different
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| 15:36 | <SBNet> i would let scott know. he would be able to handle it the best as he worked on that part fo the system
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| 15:36 | <michael> I plan on moving to wards ubuntu
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| 15:37 | <SBNet> i would check out Fedora Core 6 and at the end of this month Fedora 7 is released so it's going great
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| 15:37 | <michael> thanks, I will be online for a wihle -- but since he was travelling a lot I may better let him sleep :-)
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| 15:37 | <SBNet> last thing i heard about ubuntu was that they were in talks with microsoft about stuff
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| 15:37 | that would be best
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| 15:38 | <michael> stuff as in MS employees work for / with canonical ?
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| 15:39 | <SBNet> i mean like ms looking at maybe buy or investing heavily in ubuntu and related software, just a rumor though
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| 15:40 | <michael> well Novell is going toward MS, cooperation is ok and better that confrontation but
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| 15:40 | every medal as two sides...
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| 15:42 | <SBNet> well, i guess i'm off. gonna go home and relax. i might be on later guys. bye
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| 15:50 | <TheGuy> is anyone here using or have tried using LTSP 5 on any SuSE distro?
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| 15:52 | <akazia> Last thing I read is that Novell did show interest to ltsp..
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| 15:53 | <TheGuy> Yeah, but has anyone tried just installing the tarballs from the downloads section?
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| 15:55 | <akazia> I ran in lot of probs and choose to use 4.2u4 but I have not really worked on the problems
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| 15:56 | as soon as it was under the impression that this is more than a little massage to the distro I stopped
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| 16:01 | <akazia> Guess I get some sleep... bye
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| 18:10 | <cliebow> ogra:thanks for the help today..got ldap/samba and everything ready to go bacjk to Otis..
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| 18:11 | <ogra> cool
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| 19:45 | <paavum> Hello, hello
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| 19:46 | hey... ummm I need to run a really old dos program in ltsp
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| 19:46 | which emulator would you guys recommend?
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| 23:03 | <Bhaskar> i have download ltsp5 143MB, now how can install , there is no doc to install in this bundle?
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| 23:03 | <vagrantc> !tarball
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| 23:03 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "tarball" is http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Ltsp5TarballInstructions
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| 23:03 | <vagrantc> that's the instructios
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