IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 7 December 2018 (all times are UTC)
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| 07:05 | <vagrantc> alkisg: anything left to push to LTSP before uploading?
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| 07:05 | <alkisg> Heya
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| 07:05 | Hmm give me 1 minute...
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| 07:05 | <vagrantc> oh, i have to make an rsa ssh key to push to launchpad
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| 07:06 | <alkisg> One thing could be the new remoteapps implementation... if you agree with depending on sudo...
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| 07:07 | <vagrantc> i have no qualms depending on sudo
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| 07:07 | i'm also not in a good position to test ltsp ... so i might do an upload but make it delayed
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| 07:08 | <alkisg> I can invoke a launchpad build and test, sometime in the next week...
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| 07:08 | Oh anyway let's postpone the new remoteapps implementation for another release; so go ahead and tag it
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| 07:09 | Remoteapps don't behave well nowadays because most of the apps require dbus to be running, so we'll need to rethink our strategy there, how to have a remote dbus daemon running the first time a remoteapp is invoked, and all the next remoteapps then to use the same dbus
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| 07:10 | And I don't mind "not supporting thin clients" in ltsp6, but remoteapps are always handy
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| 07:11 | <vagrantc> hmmm.
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| 07:12 | things start to freeze in january... might be able to get one more upload in in january or maybe february, but then it starts to get progressively harder
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| 07:12 | <alkisg> About distro releases, I only care that they're stable, I don't mind if they don't have the latest stuff
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| 07:12 | <vagrantc> sure
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| 07:13 | <alkisg> We can e.g. do new ltsp releases in february or march, and just not upload them to buster...
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| 07:13 | <vagrantc> sure, just depends on how well it's working and all that
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| 07:13 | <alkisg> Currently ltsp feels stable here; I haven't tested debian recently
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| 07:13 | <vagrantc> on ubuntu 18.04 ?
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| 07:13 | <alkisg> Yes
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| 07:14 | I'm guessing around 500 schools have upgraded to it
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| 07:14 | (the rest are still using 12.04 or 16.04)
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| 07:16 | * vagrantc wonders how different buster will eventually be | |
| 07:17 | * alkisg really hopes that at some point, debian will freeze at the same time as ubuntu lts releases, and after that, "release when it's ready"... | |
| 07:17 | <alkisg> It would make it easier for developers to spend some time on their software before distro freezes
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| 07:24 | <vagrantc> i think this hard freeze is in march, which is pretty similar to ubuntu's release freeze, no?
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| 07:25 | it's basically "get things mostly ready before the new year, and bugfixes early in the year
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| 07:26 | * vagrantc looks at patches for ltsp-build-client and hopes to someday not have to maintain that anymore | |
| 07:26 | <vagrantc> there's some bizzare stuff going on in the add_mirrors function
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| 07:28 | oh, now i get it ... file mirrors need to extract the directory
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| 07:32 | <alkisg> Let's hope this year's gsoc brings us ltsp6 :)
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| 07:32 | <vagrantc> hmmm...
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| 07:33 | * vagrantc is more and more inclined to start from scratch | |
| 07:45 | <alkisg> Oh, that's absolutely certain! I'm only having doubts on if we should keep the old name and all its legacy and problematic domain and servers, or if we should switch to a new name
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| 08:00 | * vagrantc nods | |
| 08:01 | <vagrantc> hrm. don't have launchpad credentials... hrm.
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| 08:02 | oh, found them...
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| 08:13 | <vagrantc> hrm. already having second thoughts about file:/// repositories defaulting to trusted...
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| 08:16 | <alkisg> Who is using that?
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| 08:17 | <vagrantc> debian-edu
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| 08:17 | networkless installs off of media
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| 08:18 | <alkisg> They pass that in the command line, right? Why don't they pass the [trusted] part themselves?
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| 08:19 | <vagrantc> i think it should support that, then they have to pass the full sources.list line rather than just the mirror
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| 08:19 | <alkisg> For example, instead of passing mirror=http://ts.sch.gr/repo, I would pass mirror="[trusted=yes] http://ts.sch.gr/repo"
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| 08:19 | (or file://)
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| 08:21 | <vagrantc> i think you need to do 'deb [trusted=yes] http://.../repo DIST COMPONENTS'
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| 08:21 | currently
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| 08:21 | it's been so long ago that i used this stuff
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| 08:27 | * alkisg wonders why file:// repositories aren't trusted by default anyway... | |
| 08:32 | <vagrantc> they used to be, but it was deprecated behavior
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| 09:20 | <alkisg> vagrantc: are you going to switch to NFS by default?
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| 09:20 | <vagrantc> alkisg: no
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| 09:20 | <alkisg> Great :)
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| 09:21 | <vagrantc> alkisg: but enabling the flag to make it possible, since it sounds like it works again, seemed reasonable
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| 09:21 | although it probably should also have the /etc/exports and all that other stuff...
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| 09:21 | <alkisg> Sure sure that's a nice option to have
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| 14:31 | <mwalters> Struggling to get UEFI booting working on my new server =/ Am I missing something? Is there a way to enable TFTP logging in dnsmasq? I felt like I was able to see "File not founds" on my 14.04 server
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| 14:32 | UEFI clients
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| 14:33 | Looking at the syslog, looks like dnsmasq is pointing the client at /ltsp/amd64/grub/grubnetx64.efi.signed, which is correct... the client just sends 2 more requests then fails, though
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| 14:40 | nvm, incorrectly assumed it was something with the server, but it's client related
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| 14:40 | I see tftp logs in syslog when I boot another client
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| 14:40 | foot, meet mouth
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