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Channel log from 14 October 2009 (all times are UTC)
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| 03:34 | <pacifica> sbalneav: unfortunately removing ldm_directx=true makes no difference....
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| 03:34 | signing off for now...
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| 03:34 | <cyberorg> pacifica, it is LDM_DIRECTX=True
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| 08:39 | <sbalneav> Morning all
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| 08:55 | <Gadi> !s
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| 08:55 | <ltspbot> Gadi: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 08:56 | <Gadi> wow - turnaround time on !s is getting too long
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| 08:56 | <Gadi> gotta check the network
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| 08:58 | <sbalneav> Morning Gadi-daddy
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| 09:10 | <Gadi> :)
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| 09:40 | <bart1> Hi my thin client Intel Atom is producing a high-pitched electric, annoying sound, if I stop moving the mouse it disappears, no problems with speakers, what could be causing this? Thanks, I'm using Ubuntu 9.04, w/ updated chroot
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| 09:42 | Hi can anybody help me? Is my computer grounded? Haven't been able to try a livecd boot yet, just want to get some ideas if there's any. thanks!
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| 09:46 | <Blinny> Probably monitor refresh rate.
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| 09:46 | :s;probably;perhaps
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| 09:49 | <sbalneav> bart1: Sounds like a hardware problem.
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| 09:50 | <alkisg> bart1: can you change the resolution or the refresh rate from the system > preferences > screen dialog, and see if the sound stops or changes?
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| 09:51 | <bart1> Damn these are ALL great ideas! But the computer is in the office, and it's 11pm in my place, I will try it tomorrow, thanks a lot, keep them coming! I found another person experiencing the same problem here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1289375
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| 09:52 | thanks Blinny, sbalneav, and alkisg
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| 09:58 | <bart1> Oh, yea, once I also had experience with the monitor refresh, but my case is different, if I turn off the speakers the sound disappears.
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| 09:59 | <bart1> are they still the same?
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| 10:56 | <chrisinajar> stgraber: Hey, one of the presentation things your doing is on "fat clients"... I'm curious as to what that's going to be on...
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| 10:56 | at ltsp-bts, that is...
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| 11:12 | <sbalneav> stgraber, any opposition to me applying: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bug/419081 to the bzr repo?
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| 11:39 | <sbalneav> Well, better to beg forgiveness. :)
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| 11:39 | Done.
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| 12:22 | <stgraber> chrisinajar: that'll be about the current fat client (diskless but full session) in ltsp-trunk and changes that have to be done to get it complete and working for everyone
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| 12:38 | <chrisinajar> stgraber: diskless but full session, meaning like the entire session is run locally on a thin client?
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| 12:39 | <stgraber> yes
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| 12:40 | <chrisinajar> neat, just curious as to what it meant, thanks
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| 12:42 | <Lns> stgraber: this is probably a stupid question, but with fat clients, you can, say, plug a firewire dv-cam in and use it in kino, right?
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| 12:42 | as long as it works in a standalone install.. just curious about ram usage mainly
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| 12:44 | <zamba> how can i check if i have the correct display driver installed on my TC?
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| 12:45 | <Lns> zamba: check the TC logs in /var/log
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| 12:46 | <zamba> Lns: on the TC?
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| 12:46 | <Lns> yeah
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| 12:46 | like dmesg, your X log, etc.
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| 12:46 | <zamba> what am i looking for?
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| 12:46 | agpgart-intel 0000:00:00.0: Intel i810 Chipset
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| 12:46 | * Lns wonders why someone nuked the introduction/template links in ubuntu ltsp wiki..ugh | |
| 12:47 | <Lns> zamba: look at Xorg.6.log or similar in /var/log for the lines that pertain to detection of your video card..
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| 12:48 | <zamba> (--) PCI:*(0@0:1:0) Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 (CGC) Chipset Graphics Controller rev 3, Mem @ 0xf8000000/67108864, 0xfe980000/524288
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| 12:48 | <alkisg> zamba, here's a quick hackish method: if you can run glxgears, your driver's fine :P :D
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| 12:49 | <zamba> alkisg: as a local app?
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| 12:49 | <alkisg> No no normally
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| 12:49 | <Lns> good idea alkisg
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| 12:49 | <zamba> X Error of failed request: BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)
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| 12:49 | <alkisg> (ok ok you may also try xvinfo and glxinfo)
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| 12:50 | <zamba> this doesn't really tell me anything :)
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| 12:50 | i actually miss the windows approach here.. pretty clear when you lack the driver :p
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| 12:51 | * Lns slaps zamba | |
| 12:51 | <alkisg> lsmod ?
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| 12:51 | <Lns> ;)
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| 12:51 | <stgraber> Lns: yeah, ram is the issue but that's basically the only issue
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| 12:51 | <zamba> alkisg: server or TC?
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| 12:51 | <Lns> stgraber: cool, thx
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| 12:51 | <alkisg> zamba, in tc, and locally...
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| 12:52 | <zamba> intel_agp is installed
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| 12:52 | <alkisg> What does xvinfo say?
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| 12:52 | (in tc, in gnome-terminal)
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| 12:53 | If it says "no adaptors present" then yeah it's not the correct driver
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| 12:53 | <zamba> http://pastebin.com/m19b07f4c
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| 12:53 | well.. i feel the performance is sluggish
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| 12:53 | <alkisg> If it outputs a bunch of modes... yeah seems fine
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| 12:53 | <zamba> it's very sluggish
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| 12:53 | <alkisg> zamba: LDM_DIRECTX?
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| 12:54 | <zamba> alkisg: True
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| 12:54 | <alkisg> Network speed?
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| 12:54 | <zamba> 100 Mbit/s
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| 12:54 | but only one TC
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| 12:54 | <alkisg> OK, it should be fine...
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| 12:54 | <zamba> X_COLOR_DEPTH=16
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| 12:54 | and X_RAMPERC=80
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| 12:54 | and yet it isn't
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| 12:54 | <alkisg> And getltscfg -a (in tc, locally) verifies all those settings?
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| 12:54 | <zamba> yeah
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| 12:55 | <alkisg> Hrm... got some divx movie to playback with totem?
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| 12:55 | <zamba> hah
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| 12:55 | that never works
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| 12:55 | <alkisg> Why not?!!!
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| 12:55 | <zamba> lags
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| 12:55 | <alkisg> It only needs ~50mbps with xv acceleration
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| 12:55 | <zamba> looks like the frame rate is 12 fps
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| 12:55 | but ok.. i'll try
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| 12:55 | <alkisg> Not a dvd; an divx/xdiv
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| 12:56 | <zamba> sure
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| 12:56 | <alkisg> A dvd needs ~125mbps
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| 12:56 | <zamba> hold on, i'll give it a go
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| 12:57 | and opening big images in firefox grinds the TC to a near halt
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| 12:57 | <alkisg> firefox plays tricks with the pixmaps... that's why i prefer totem for testing
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| 12:57 | <zamba> going to test now
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| 12:57 | <alkisg> Also run iftop on the server if you can, to get a measure of the traffic
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| 12:58 | <zamba> lags
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| 12:58 | <alkisg> Client CPU?
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| 12:59 | <zamba> not over 1
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| 12:59 | load average at 0.60 or something
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| 12:59 | <alkisg> Erm, while playing the divx movie?
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| 12:59 | Try: ltsp-localapps xterm
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| 12:59 | <zamba> on the client
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| 12:59 | yeah
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| 12:59 | <alkisg> in that terminal: top
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| 12:59 | <zamba> i'm using 'top' now
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| 13:00 | <alkisg> Huh? How fast is your client?! :)
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| 13:00 | <zamba> PIII
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| 13:00 | at around 1000 MHz
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| 13:00 | 128 MB RAM
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| 13:01 | <alkisg> Ah, sorry, "load average" - I thought cpu usage
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| 13:01 | <zamba> cpu is around 23 %
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| 13:01 | <alkisg> And video dimensions? 640x400?
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| 13:01 | (the movie, not the window size)
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| 13:02 | *and fps?
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| 13:02 | <zamba> 624x352
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| 13:02 | 23.98 fps
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| 13:02 | but i have to admit.. it works much better in totem than in mplayer
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| 13:02 | <alkisg> ~=63 mbps
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| 13:03 | Plus a few for the sound... it shouldn't have any lag at all
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| 13:03 | <zamba> yeah.. iftop says something around there
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| 13:03 | video worked fine now, actually
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| 13:03 | <Guest17597> hmm . never heard somebody say what you just said.. but that is great
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| 13:03 | <zamba> but firefox looks to be the problem..?
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| 13:03 | <Guest17597> about totem better than mplayer
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| 13:03 | that's the point !
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| 13:03 | oops.. my nick..
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| 13:04 | <zamba> hehe
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| 13:04 | * alkisg bets that's johnny | |
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| 13:04 | <alkisg> (09:04:35 μμ) ***alkisg bets that's johnny ==> alkisg wins the bet :)
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| 13:04 | <zamba> alkisg: what can be done about the firefox problem? i see lots of emails about it on the mailing list
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| 13:04 | <alkisg> zamba: well... replace it with google chrome? :P :D
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| 13:05 | You do know about the xlib problem and its fix, right?
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| 13:05 | <zamba> riight :)
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| 13:05 | <johnny> alkisg, finally have nickserv problem almost licked.d.
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| 13:05 | <zamba> alkisg: nope?
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| 13:05 | <alkisg> zamba: distro/version?
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| 13:05 | <johnny> my transport does set nickserv most of the time now..
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| 13:05 | <zamba> alkisg: ubuntu jaunty
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| 13:05 | <johnny> most of the time..
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| 13:05 | <alkisg> zamba: use stgraber's ppa, it contains the fixed xlib
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| 13:06 | There's a big bug report for this problem in launchpad, but I never have it handy...
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| 13:06 | E.g. if you right click on firefox, it takes 3-5 secs. With the patch it's instant.
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| 13:06 | <zamba> yup
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| 13:06 | that's my problem
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| 13:06 | and also just sluggish performance
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| 13:06 | especially when i have a few tabs open
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| 13:07 | just add his ppa to the repos and do a update?
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| 13:07 | <johnny> alkisg, i hope that fix is upstreamed..
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| 13:07 | <alkisg> zamba: that's *one* problem fixed; the exessive pixmap usage is another, not solved yet.. :(
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| 13:07 | zamba: yes, but do that on the chroot as well (to have the same ltsp version)
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| 13:07 | johnny: I think it is..
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| 13:07 | johnny: totem vs mplayer: if mplayer used x11 for output, it would need a lot more bandwidth, and it would be laggy
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| 13:08 | if it was configured to use xv, it should be the same...
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| 13:08 | <johnny> alkisg, i hope people drop mplayer altogether in the future..
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| 13:08 | gstreamer is the future
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| 13:08 | * alkisg too, yup, ^^^ | |
| 13:08 | <johnny> altho.. ffmpeg is still a great tool for now..
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| 13:09 | <alkisg> What I'd really love to see would be a gstreamer plugin for capturing window contents
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| 13:09 | I could broadcast my screen with that, no more need for italc :P
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| 13:09 | <zamba> alkisg: his ppa brings with it other packages as well.. like cups.. that's fine?
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| 13:10 | <alkisg> zamba: I've been using it for some time, works for me (and lots of others) - but as you know, no guarantees :)
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| 13:10 | zamba: if you want, download only that one deb
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| 13:11 | <zamba> so.. chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 ; alter /etc/apt/sources.list ; aptitude update ; aptitude full-upgrade .. ?
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| 13:11 | and the ltsp-update-client?
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| 13:11 | then*
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| 13:11 | * alkisg usually uses etc/apt/sources.list.d/stgraber.list :D | |
| 13:11 | <zamba> yeah, sure :)
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| 13:11 | <alkisg> But yup, something like that, also a mount proc may be needed
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| 13:12 | See the "updating chroot" wiki for the whole deal
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| 13:12 | <zamba> we'll see
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| 13:12 | but generally.. do you have to update the chroot often?
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| 13:12 | if you're not running any local apps, i mean?
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| 13:18 | <alkisg> Well... personally I don't care much about security, so I only update it out of habbit :)
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| 13:30 | Anyone cares to explain me why squid downloads images twice, instead of caching them?
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| 13:30 | 1255544936.952 6707 10.160.31.130 TCP_MISS/200 1487121 GET http://blogs.sch.gr/7lykioan/files/2009/10/balloons.jpg - DIRECT/194.63.238.45 image/jpeg
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| 13:30 | 1255544954.833 6262 10.160.31.10 TCP_MISS/200 1487121 GET http://blogs.sch.gr/7lykioan/files/2009/10/balloons.jpg - DIRECT/194.63.238.45 image/jpeg
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| 14:03 | <stgraber> sbalneav: yeah, looks good and useful
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| 14:04 | <_UsUrPeR_> is anybody else having problems with LOCAL_APPS_MENU = true making changes to 9.10's menu items?
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| 14:05 | <sbalneav> stgraber: ok, I've applied it.
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| 14:07 | <cliebow_> Gadi?
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| 14:19 | <cliebow_> Gadi:?
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| 14:21 | <Gadi> present
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| 14:22 | <cliebow_> any other bright ideas to determinwe if a machine has stopped offering dhcp..i tried nc without any love and have tried this..but when i turn off dhcp the command says the port is still open/filtered.sudo nmap -sU 10.10.0.3-9 -p 67-68
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| 14:22 | .
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| 14:22 | <Gadi> ah, nc had issues with udp and determining status
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| 14:22 | <cliebow_> yeah..
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| 14:22 | <Gadi> hmm...
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| 14:23 | it may be a udp thang
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| 14:23 | maybe you can have a dhcp client do a dry run or something
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| 14:23 | <cliebow_> yeah i thought as much.i ping 10.10.0.3-9 and thre say closed..the last open even is dhcp is stopped
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| 14:24 | i was thinking that..ill do some more googling/..
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| 14:25 | and thank you just the same 8~
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| 14:25 | )
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| 14:25 | <Gadi> duh
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| 14:25 | UDP is connectionless
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| 14:25 | which is why you cannot really check the status
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| 14:25 | you doing this in Perl?
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| 14:25 | <cliebow_> nope..not yet
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| 14:26 | <Gadi> if so, you can prolly make a dhcp client request to the port in perl, see if you get an answer or not
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| 14:26 | <cliebow_> seems like Everyone would like to be emailled if their dhcp is down
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| 14:26 | <Gadi> and if not within a timeout, bail
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| 14:26 | if so, just discard what you get
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| 14:27 | <Lns> For anyone interested, I just created a howto on creating shared Gnome desktops for users: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/SharedDesktops - any input appreciated
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| 14:28 | <Gadi> http://search.cpan.org/~shadinger/Net-DHCP-0.66/lib/Net/DHCP/Packet.pm
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| 14:29 | <cliebow_> ahhh..i also found something like DHCPClient.pm
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| 14:54 | * alkisg just loves those random xorg restarts... :( Lns, could you repost that link? | |
| 14:54 | <Lns> the shared desktop link?
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| 14:54 | <alkisg> Yup
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| 14:55 | <Lns> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/SharedDesktops
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| 14:55 | <alkisg> I was just today thinking about "virtual users" :)
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| 14:55 | (= 1 user account, many shared dirs)
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| 14:55 | <Lns> what's a use case for that?
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| 14:56 | <alkisg> Avoid nfs/ldap/multiple wine installations/transfering user settings etc
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| 14:56 | <Lns> hrm
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| 14:56 | interesting idea
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| 14:56 | what about file locking?
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| 14:56 | <alkisg> The students don't even know their own passwords; the teacher just click on the "logon the a2 class" and automatic logon gets activated
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| 14:56 | <alkisg> All home dirs shared with sshfs, so users cannot see the other users' files
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| 14:57 | (all the files belong to the teacher :))
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| 14:57 | Also it's easier for the teacher to transfer files between students
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| 14:57 | <Lns> If you create a doc on that lemme know, sounds neat
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| 14:57 | <alkisg> (so basically, logon == symlink)
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| 14:58 | * alkisg reads Lns's page... | |
| 14:59 | * Lns needs to get on creating a "real" guest user thingy which creates random users upon "guest login" and wipes homedir afterwards, to avoid multiple static guest user accounts and getting passwords via looking at environment variables.. was this done already? I know I'm still in the stone age w/ubu 8.04 | |
| 15:00 | <alkisg> Lns should upgrade to the computer age, and leave the stone age in the past... :)
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| 15:00 | Guest accounts was implemented in 8.10, I think...
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| 15:00 | <Lns> No, 8.04 has it
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| 15:00 | you just have to create real accounts for it and map to them via lts.conf
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| 15:00 | <alkisg> Ehm, sorry, what?
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| 15:01 | <johnny> uhmm..
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| 15:01 | what's wrong with multile static guest user accounts?
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| 15:01 | that'll make the login quicker
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| 15:01 | Lns, that is what i do
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| 15:01 | one per pc
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| 15:01 | <Lns> lol..johnny, think about it. "guest" accounts aren't good when you have multiple users using them
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| 15:02 | especially in your environment
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| 15:02 | you probably have a script to wipe their files though after logout or something
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| 15:02 | I think we've talked about this before
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| 15:03 | <alkisg> Lns, this isn't working: sudo echo "This is a test" > /home/share/Desktops/MrsSmithsClass/testfile.txt
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| 15:03 | This is: echo "This is a test" | sudo tee /home/share/Desktops/MrsSmithsClass/testfile.txt
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| 15:03 | <Lns> ah crap, that's right =) thx!
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| 15:04 | *updated
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| 15:05 | <johnny> that's what i mean.. one per pc
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| 15:05 | one guest account for each computer
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| 15:05 | named by the computer
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| 15:06 | sorry.. not ubuntu's guest accounts..
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| 15:06 | <alkisg> Lns, also, instead of symlinking etc, you could update the users's ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs file to point to the same dir
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| 15:06 | <johnny> alkisg, or /etc/xdg/user-dirs.default
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| 15:06 | no need to symlink then
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| 15:06 | <alkisg> XDG_DESKTOP_DIR=/the/same/dir
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| 15:06 | <Lns> hmm
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| 15:06 | <alkisg> johnny: sure, but I thought he only wanted it to happen for a couple of users
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| 15:07 | <Lns> either way should work the same I'd think
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| 15:07 | <johnny> Lns, i created one account on the LTSP server, named after each computer, then setup the ssh keys,
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| 15:07 | so logins work based on the hostname with ssh key auth
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| 15:07 | so my lts.conf is just LDM_AUTOLOGIN
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| 15:07 | <alkisg> Yeah, you just save yourself all the symlinking, backing up the old dirs etc
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| 15:07 | <johnny> no other settings
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| 15:08 | <alkisg> johnny: "setup the ssh keys"?
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| 15:08 | You mean the classic ltsp-update-sshkeys, or something else?
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| 15:10 | <Lns> alkisg: i like your idea because it simplifies stuff. I'll update the wiki.
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| 16:21 | <pacifica> G'day
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| 16:21 | We're having a funny issues with Ubuntu 8.04 LTS / LTSP 5
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| 16:22 | <sbalneav> Did you try removing the LDM_DIRECTX=True from the one machine?
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| 16:23 | <pacifica> Hi sbalneav.
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| 16:24 | We've got it to work!
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| 16:24 | I only don't know if thats due to LDM_DIRECTX (the report from my buddy isn't conclusive)
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| 16:24 | but the important thing is ... it works (we also rebooted all machines)...
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| 16:26 | <pacifica> Now we can move on to the next (last?) thing.
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| 16:26 | <sbalneav> So, was that the funny issue, or did you have a different one?
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| 16:26 | ok
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| 16:26 | What is it?
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| 16:27 | <pacifica> all usb stick icons appear on all desktops
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| 16:27 | not only on the one you're using
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| 16:27 | <pacifica> and they remain there if people don't unplug them before they log out.
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| 16:27 | <sbalneav> Are all your users in the same primary group?
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| 16:27 | <pacifica> so I made a little script that runs every 5 mins to unmount any usb sticks that are no longer thhere
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| 16:28 | all in the same primary group....i need to check that
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| 16:29 | <sbalneav> The normal method is to have users have their own unique primary group
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| 16:29 | i.e. sbalneav:sbalneav
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| 16:29 | then if you have a SHARED group, you create that, and add the users to it.
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| 16:29 | <pacifica> and shared means that users can see other's USB sticks?
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| 16:29 | <sbalneav> Yep.
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| 16:30 | <pacifica> they can now see others sticks but not use them.
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| 16:30 | <sbalneav> Correct.
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| 16:30 | It's a "feature" in gnome.
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| 16:30 | <pacifica> so what is the point of having this "shared" ability?
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| 16:30 | Ah.. :-) ... a "feature" :-) ok...
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| 16:30 | <sbalneav> None. You shouldn't use it.
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| 16:31 | <pacifica> we're using ldap..
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| 16:31 | checking primary groiup now...
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| 16:31 | <sbalneav> Do things the "normal" modern way. Every users' in their own group.
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| 16:32 | <pacifica> yep all users are in same primary group
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| 16:32 | <sbalneav> How many users do you have?
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| 16:33 | <pacifica> so the solution is move them to their own primary group?
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| 16:33 | <sbalneav> yes. Which is the "standard" that pretty much all linux distros fillow these days.
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| 16:33 | <Gadi> pacifica: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LocaldevCommonGroupWorkaround
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| 16:34 | <Gadi> :)
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| 16:34 | <pacifica> ok many thanks sbalneav for your help... will look into moving users to their own primary group
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| 16:35 | <sbalneav> Gadi: ugh
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| 16:35 | <Gadi> pacifica: that link should save you a lot of trouble
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| 16:35 | <sbalneav> do NOT like that solution.
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| 16:35 | <Gadi> :P
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| 16:35 | <sbalneav> it's not a solution. It's a nasty hack.
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| 16:35 | <Gadi> the core problem is a nasty hack
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| 16:35 | one nasty hack deserves another
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| 16:35 | <pacifica> I see there are two ways out :-)
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| 16:36 | one nasty and one less nasty ?
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| 16:36 | <Gadi> and if you are working with 1000's of ldap users, any other method is painful
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| 16:36 | <pacifica> why is Gadi's suggestion nasty?
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| 16:36 | <Gadi> or if they are AD users, for that matter
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| 16:36 | its not
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| 16:36 | <pacifica> well yes... we don't have 1000 fortunately... but 50 on three sites.
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| 16:36 | <Gadi> it is cute and adorable
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| 16:36 | <sbalneav> I disagree. But whatever.
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| 16:36 | Heading home for the day.
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| 16:36 | <pacifica> sbalneav: why do you disagree?
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| 16:37 | <Gadi> most central auth schemes do not have users in their own groups
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| 16:37 | <sbalneav> See you all on later tonight.
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| 16:37 | <Gadi> to force that schema is a bug
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| 16:37 | <pacifica> ok fair enough... many thanks for all your help sbalneav - much appreciated.
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| 16:37 | <Gadi> and is nasty
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| 16:37 | <pacifica> sleep well!
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| 16:37 | <Gadi> :)
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| 16:37 | pacifica: the method above simply adjusts the permissions on the mountpoint
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| 16:38 | so it doesn't trigger gvfs
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| 16:38 | and therefore only mounts for the user
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| 16:38 | and not everyone in the user's group
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| 16:39 | if the bug were fixed in ltspfs, it would not make the mountpoint group readable to begin with
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| 16:39 | anyhow, I gotta go, too
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| 16:39 | cheers!
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| 16:40 | <pacifica> Thanks Gadi!
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| 17:10 | <Lns> hmm
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| 17:11 | sbalneav: what's your beef with giving other users icons to use stuff in /media if they actually have permissions for it?
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| 17:12 | I agree its kind of bass-ackwards if you're talking about stuff in /media (which is hardly ever stuff you'd want more than one person to see) but if they have perms, they have perms...
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| 17:45 | <wesblake> Hello all. I have an issue perhaps you all will be able to help me with. I am using nubae's fat client. It copies passwd, group, etc to the client for login. I have a user that was deleted, then re-created to refresh their profile, so lets say he was id 1005 and now he is 1006. For some reason, after a period of time, both his old and new user lines are showing up in the clients /etc/passwd, etc, even though their for sure gone from the servers files. I even tri
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| 18:27 | <garyj> ?
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| 18:28 | L
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| 18:28 | LTSP clients fail to boot.
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| 18:29 | after installing Ubuntu 9.04
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| 18:29 | I've been workingon the problem for 2 days now
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| 18:31 | The latest message is Kernel call returned: Broken pipe Reconnecting
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| 18:32 | Error: Ioctl/1.1a failed: Bad file descriptor
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| 18:32 | Is anyone available to help?
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| 18:33 | <Lns> garyj: 64-bit 9.04?
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| 18:33 | <garyj> Yes
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| 18:33 | on the serder
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| 18:33 | server
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| 18:33 | <Lns> did you ltsp-build-client --arch i386?
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| 18:34 | (i'm assuming i386-based clients)
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| 18:34 | <garyj> The clientis 386 and yes I did use the --arch i386
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| 18:34 | <Lns> are you sure everything from that command completed?
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| 18:35 | <garyj> yes. I watched it as it went thouugh it s stuff
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| 18:36 | <Lns> the only time i've ever seen 'bad file descriptor' is when the nbd image building process is interrupted
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| 18:36 | <garyj> It gets an ip address OK
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| 18:36 | <Lns> course that's just me, i'm not the end-all LTSP expert or anything
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| 18:36 | <garyj> the ubuntu boot schreen comes up
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| 18:36 | and appears to be doing what it's supposed to .
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| 18:37 | Then it stops and the errors show up.
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| 18:37 | Right now the client is sitting at ltsp10 login:
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| 18:37 | ltsp101 login:
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| 18:38 | 101 is the last part of the ip address
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| 18:38 | <Lns> garyj: are you using nbd or nfs?
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| 18:39 | <garyj> How would I know that info?
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| 18:39 | <Lns> well if you don't you're probably using nbd
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| 18:40 | <garyj> OK
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| 18:41 | <Lns> i'm not familiar w/ltsp on 9.10, but it sure does seem like there's something wrong with your chroot
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| 18:41 | if you had the time i'd try renaming your current chroot and try again
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| 18:41 | <garyj> Agreed
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| 18:42 | I've rebuilt the chroot environment a couple times already
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| 18:42 | <Lns> oh
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| 18:43 | have you updated your chroot and done ltsp-update-kernels and ltsp-update-image afterwards?
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| 18:43 | <garyj> The only thing out of the ordinary in m installation is that I have non-ltsp PCs connecting to the swith thtat ltsp clients are on
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| 18:43 | <Lns> that's not a big deal
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| 18:44 | <garyj> The last time I did the build I didn't update afterward.
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| 18:44 | <Lns> i constantly hear here, too, that you should use stgraber's PPA if you're using 9.04
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| 18:44 | <garyj> One time when I did the build and updated I did ltsp-update-kernels and ltsp-update-image but that didn't solve the problems either
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| 18:45 | What is PPA?
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| 18:46 | <Lns> https://launchpad.net/~stgraber/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=jaunty
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| 18:50 | <garyj> I'm not sure what I'm looking for at that URL.
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| 19:07 | <Lns> sorry garyj i have to go - hopefully someone else might be able to help.
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| 19:07 | good luck
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| 21:39 | <sbalneav> evening all
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| 21:39 | <jammcq> Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 21:41 | <sbalneav> Hey hey hey
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| 21:49 | <jammcq> sbalneav: you there?
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| 21:51 | <sbalneav> I am
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| 21:51 | <jammcq> check your privmesg
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| 21:51 | <sbalneav> Just saw it :)
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