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Channel log from 21 May 2013 (all times are UTC)
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| 00:11 | <derekn> Does anyone have any information about setting up dual head video cards in the lts.conf file? I'm trying to get it to treat each monitor separately while spanning across both monitors.
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| 00:14 | <digitalirony> derekn: you use xrandr
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| 00:14 | http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/raring/en/man5/lts.conf.5.html
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| 00:14 | ^ look there under xrandr settings, and also look up documentation on xrandr and how to use it
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| 00:18 | <derekn> Thanks, I've been looking at xrandr. I've also been looking at xinerama as FreeRDP is supposed to work better with it.
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| 00:18 | <digitalirony> well the thing about xinerama, is that its pretty much only nvidia cards
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| 00:18 | xrandr works regardless of driver
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| 00:20 | <derekn> Interesting, I'd read that xinerama was supposed to be driver agnostic.
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| 00:20 | <digitalirony> so, if you have multiple video card types, xrandr is the more 'universal/global' aproach, which is never fine tuned, as doing it through the driver itself
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| 00:20 | derekn: maybe so....I just know that the general accepted practice is to use xrandr when using mixed hardware like that
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| 00:21 | <derekn> Thankfully I don't have multiple card type, just a mix of dual head nvidia and ati cards
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| 00:21 | Sorry, I don't have multiple cards in one system.
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| 00:21 | <digitalirony> nah, not one system
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| 00:21 | I mean, like if you have 80 workstations like I do
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| 00:22 | and half are nvidia and half are ATI
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| 00:22 | and I wanted to set the settings for them all, and in one place
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| 00:22 | instead of having to make something very specific for each host
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| 00:22 | <derekn> Yes, that's what I'm hoping to do as well.
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| 00:23 | <digitalirony> then you want to use xrandr
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| 00:23 | just sayin
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| 00:24 | and I hate saying that too
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| 00:24 | I really hate xrandr
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| 00:24 | <derekn> :) Yeah, it's kind of confusing. It doens't help that the man page doesn't really have any examples.
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| 00:25 | <digitalirony> yeah, I know heh
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| 00:25 | just trial and error, you will learn better that way :P
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| 00:25 | you will learn what can break, and how to fix it
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| 00:25 | <derekn> True :)
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| 00:26 | <digitalirony> anyway, im going home now
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| 00:26 | these nice peeps here can prolly help more than me anyway
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| 00:26 | im just some dude
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| 00:26 | <derekn> Thanks again for the link
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| 00:26 | <digitalirony> np
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| 03:06 | <tkw_one_malo> does somebdoy knows how send xmessage betwen ltsp clients?
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| 03:06 | from command line
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| 03:18 | <tkw_one_malo> does somebdoy knows how send xmessage betwen ltsp clients?
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| 03:18 | from command line
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| 03:36 | <alkisg> derekn: what do you mean "treat each monitor separately"? different resolutions, or different x server?
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| 03:36 | tkw_one_malo: it's not easily done, without hacks that need root access. Have a look at epoptes:
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| 03:36 | !epoptes
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| 03:36 | <ltsp> epoptes: Epoptes is a computer lab administration and monitoring tool. It works on Ubuntu and Debian based labs with LTSP or non-LTSP servers, thin and fat clients, standalone workstations, NX clients etc. More info: http://www.epoptes.org
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| 03:42 | <tkw_one_malo> alkisg: i do in my server ltsp: $ xhost +
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| 03:42 | after in the client i do: $ xmessage hi, this is a salute -display:0 it work from client to server
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| 03:42 | but in the client i do: $ xhost + and after goto the server and i do: $ xmessage hi, i am the administrator -display localhost:11.0 but never work.
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| 03:47 | <alkisg> tkw_one_malo: try with `su - user-that-works-on-thin-client` first, an run xmessage as that user
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| 03:48 | Or disable directx, otherwise X traffic goes through ssh
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| 03:48 | <tkw_one_malo> i am on linux
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| 03:48 | <alkisg> !directx
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| 03:48 | <ltsp> directx: If you want to turn off encryption to the workstation, which will speed up performance at the cost of security, you need to specify LDM_DIRECTX=True in your lts.conf file. Type !docs in IRC to get a link to the current documentation
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| 03:48 | <alkisg> It's ltsp directx, not microsoft directx... same name used for 2 different things :)
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| 03:49 | <tkw_one_malo> oh .. . jejejejej excuses me
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| 03:49 | i didnot know about it
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| 03:55 | <alkisg> tkw_one_malo: see a similar script I once made: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5685879/
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| 03:55 | Save it as ltsp-exec, and then run ltsp-exec xmessage params...
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| 03:55 | ...as root
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| 03:55 | <tkw_one_malo> ok, .... thank you
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| 03:55 | i will see it
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| 03:58 | <lifeboy> alkisg: I couldn't attach the new server partition to the VM to run it with the old server simultenously since the version of libvirt on Ubuntu 10.10 is too old and has a bug when creating/mounting the storage pool for "fs" type.
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| 03:59 | * alkisg doesn't use libvirt but directly kvm from the command line... e.g. kvm /dev/sdb | |
| 04:00 | <lifeboy> I only have one more thing I can't figure out: My client boots, but ldm doesn't load because the file system is read only on the client chroot.
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| 04:00 | <alkisg> cat /proc/mounts; cat /proc/cmdline, on the client ==> pastebin.com
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| 04:11 | <lifeboy> alkisg: http://pastebin.com/Pg2Gk9uz
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| 04:13 | <alkisg> lifeboy: rootfs rw, it says... try: touch /file, does that work?
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| 04:13 | (although I think you should be seeing aufs there as well)
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| 04:14 | Ah
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| 04:14 | lifeboy: the problem is in the command line, it's missing init=/sbin/init-ltsp
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| 04:22 | <lifeboy> Just checked that it's in /etc/ltsp/update-kernels.conf
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| 04:22 | BOOTPROMPT_OPTS="root=/dev/nbd0 init=/sbin/init-ltsp quiet splash plymouth:force-splash vt.handoff=7 nbdroot=:ltsp_i386 "
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| 04:23 | but in pxelinux.cfg/default it only has
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| 04:23 | it also has
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| 04:23 | append ro initrd=initrd.img root=/dev/nbd0 ip=dhcp
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| 04:28 | <lifeboy> Oh, wait, of course, that is different. It doesn't have init=/sbin/init-ltsp
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| 04:35 | <lifeboy> Anyone that knows how to coerce pxelinux.cfg/default into taking the BOOTPROMPT_OPTS in /etc/ltsp/update-kernels.conf and applying them?
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| 04:36 | Or has BOOTPROMPT_OPTS been changed?
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| 05:07 | I just had a look at /usr/share/ltsp/update-kernels (in the Wheezy chroot) and don't see how the BOOTPROMPT_OPTS get copied to pxelinux.cfg/default.
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| 05:07 | This looks like a bug?
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| 05:17 | I see vagrantc and alkisg last updated that script.
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| 05:36 | <lifeboy> I'm not a seasoned coder, but I'm pretty sure /usr/share/ltsp/update-kernels ignored BOOTPROMPT_OPTS in update-kernels.conf, unlike an older version of the script that I found, which does not ignore this.
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| 05:36 | s/ignored/ignores/
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| 05:37 | <work_alkisg> lifeboy: probably, like the previous time, you deleted the shipped update-kernels.conf and replaced it with the older ubuntu version...
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| 05:38 | <alkisg> Check the $CHROOT/etc/ltsp/update-kernels.conf from the working server
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| 05:38 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/5686006/
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| 05:39 | <lifeboy> they're identical on both servers.
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| 05:39 | <alkisg> So, they don't have BOOTPROMPT_OPTS at all, right?
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| 05:39 | <alkisg> Because when we did the remote assistance thing last time, you had BOOTPROMPT_OPTS there, and I had to restore that file to the original version,
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| 05:39 | ...maybe you decided to overwrite it again? :)
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| 05:39 | Check the pastebin above ^
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| 05:40 | Your update-kernels.conf should look similar to that, no BOOTPROMPT_OPTS anywhere there
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| 05:41 | <lifeboy> you're right, it's the wrong update-kernels.conf
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| 05:42 | <alkisg> So to sum up, don't use BOOTPROMPT_OPTS, don't follow older guides found on the internet, and don't overwrite update-kernels.conf with examples found in the net :)
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| 05:43 | From the pastebin example, you only need to change line 16, BOOT_METHODS
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| 05:43 | <lifeboy> I'm making notes of this... but I'm really puzzled as to how the old file got into the Ashton server that you assisted on.
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| 05:44 | And when I'm done, I'll document this somewhere or is there a process underway of updating the outdated documentation for LTSP5?
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| 05:44 | <alkisg> Hmmm if you're sure you didn't put it yourself, it might be possible that your ubuntu server put it there, I think older versions of ltsp possibly did that...
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| 05:45 | <lifeboy> I'm pretty sure I didn't put it back there after you fixed it.
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| 05:53 | <work_alkisg> !greek-schools-ppa
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| 05:53 | <ltsp> greek-schools-ppa: https://launchpad.net/~ts.sch.gr/+archive/ppa/ supports LTS Ubuntu releases with newer LTSP versions, bug fixes etc
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| 05:54 | <alkisg> lifeboy: that ppa ^ has a newer ltsp version that should match your wheezy chroot better
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| 05:54 | I.e. if you added that before installing ltsp, then nbd-server configuration would be proper etc etc
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| 05:55 | <lifeboy> Ok, great. I won't break something, since all it working fine now?
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| 06:08 | alkisg: If I add the PPA now, it would update scripts, etc. but not overwrite the config files I've got, right?
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| 06:19 | <alkisg> Right
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| 13:31 | <Buntu-Burned> hello!
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| 13:35 | <bieb> does the guy from disklessworkstations still hang out in here?
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| 14:16 | <unkmar> bieb: maybe, but I don't know.
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| 14:21 | <sbalneav> Morning all
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| 14:35 | <bieb> Scott!! how's it going?
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| 14:37 | <sbalneav> bieb: Not too bad, yourself?
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| 14:37 | <bieb> sbalneav: going well.. just starting the summer projects since students are gone
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| 14:41 | <Buntu-Burned> bye all! :D
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| 14:51 | <bieb> sbalneav: hey scott.. who was the guy from Diskless workstations that always hung out in here?
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| 14:56 | <alkisg> irclogs search: http://irclogs.ltsp.org/?u=bieb&k=keyword :)
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| 15:11 | <gbaman_> alkisg i sort of got it working
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| 15:13 | asked the qemu guys, had to add some stuff into the chroot
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| 15:15 | <alkisg> So it does require something like a hook... nice
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| 15:15 | <gbaman_> I can now chroot into it, but I can't ltsp-chroot into it
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| 15:16 | <alkisg> OK, just use plain chroot then :)
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| 15:16 | And install ltsp-client in it...
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| 15:17 | <gbaman_> for reference I used cp /usr/bin/qemu-arm-static armhf/usr/bin/qemu-arm-static and that was all that I needed
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| 15:19 | I already did, and i get chroot: failed to run command `armhf': No such file or directory
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| 15:20 | so I can now chroot but not ltsp-chroot
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| 15:20 | <alkisg> You run `chroot apt-get install ltsp-client` and you get "failed to run command armhf"?
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| 15:21 | <gbaman_> i already did
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| 15:22 | <vagrantc> you didn't use ltsp's built-in cross-arch support?
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| 15:23 | <gbaman_> nope
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| 15:23 | <alkisg> He says he started with the premade pi image, he didn't use ltsp-build-client...
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| 15:23 | <vagrantc> i guess the hard way is more educational
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| 15:23 | <gbaman_> had a slight problem with the built in builder
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| 15:24 | the prebuilt images from the foundation contain a lot more stuff
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| 15:24 | that are needed
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| 15:24 | <alkisg> But then he couldn't chroot into it... and then he copied the qemu static binary, and now I didn't understand the problem :)
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| 15:24 | <gbaman_> and they arnt all debs
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| 15:24 | <vagrantc> ah, a bunch of binary blobs?
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| 15:25 | <alkisg> gbaman_: if you can chroot, but not ltsp-chroot, ok, then use chroot and don't use ltsp-chroot !
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| 15:25 | <vagrantc> that's unsurprising
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| 15:25 | <gbaman_> is there a difference?
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| 15:25 | <vagrantc> you can mimic the difference by setting a few environment variables
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| 15:26 | but the only reason i can fathom ltsp-chroot not working and plain chroot working is putting it in some weird paths
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| 15:26 | * alkisg thinks gbaman_ still hasn't configured qemu correctly... since he's saying even plain `chroot` gives him errors | |
| 15:27 | <gbaman_> no, normal chroot does work fine
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| 15:27 | <vagrantc> or not chrooting to the same dir that ltsp-chroot is
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| 15:27 | <alkisg> (06:20:56 μμ) alkisg: You run `chroot apt-get install ltsp-client` and you get "failed to run command armhf"?
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| 15:27 | (06:21:56 μμ) gbaman_: i already did
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| 15:27 | I thought that meant "yes I already tried it and it gave me an error"
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| 15:27 | <vagrantc> gbaman_: is qemu-user-static installed on the server?
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| 15:28 | <gbaman_> i can run chroot armhf then use sudo apt-get install ltsp-client
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| 15:28 | and yes vagrantc, it is
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| 15:28 | <alkisg> gbaman_: ok, then just go ahead and do that
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| 15:28 | <vagrantc> is binfmt-support installed?
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| 15:29 | <alkisg> ltsp-chroot won't do you much good anyway, until you install ltsp-client in the chroot...
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| 15:29 | <gbaman_> ltsp-client is now installed on the client
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| 15:29 | * vagrantc thinks it's unwise to proceed without ltsp-chroot working | |
| 15:30 | <alkisg> vagrantc: ltsp-chroot won't work properly without ltsp-client
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| 15:30 | <vagrantc> it shows something fundamentally borken
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| 15:30 | <gbaman_> ltsp-client is installed
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| 15:30 | <alkisg> missing diversion....
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| 15:30 | <vagrantc> alkisg: oh, right...
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| 15:31 | it souldn't fail the way gbaman_ is experiencing, though
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| 15:31 | <alkisg> True
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| 15:31 | gbaman_: the ltsp-chroot not working is an issue to work on, but in the meantime, you should be able now to boot the chroot over the network now...
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| 15:31 | <vagrantc> so i think there is some deeper confusion
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| 15:31 | <gbaman_> running ltsp-chroot armhf returns chroot: failed to run command `armhf': No such file or directory
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| 15:32 | <alkisg> ltsp-chroot --arch armhf
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| 15:32 | not plain armhf
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| 15:32 | * vagrantc nods | |
| 15:32 | <alkisg> Just try plain `ltsp-chroot` without any parameters at all
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| 15:33 | <gbaman_> ..
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| 15:33 | fixed
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| 15:33 | ignore everything I just said
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| 15:33 | ltsp-chroot isnt broken
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| 15:34 | are any other packages needed?
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| 15:34 | seeing as it was not built by LTSP?
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| 15:35 | <vagrantc> should be it
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| 15:35 | it depends on everything
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| 15:35 | ltsp-client, that is
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| 15:36 | you'll probably have to recreate the initrd and such
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| 15:36 | and you'll need a linux-image package with support for aufs, initrd, etc
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| 15:37 | last i looked, the rpi foundation kernerl was missing a lot of needed features
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| 15:37 | <alkisg> vagrantc: couldn't we put a trigger in ltsp-client to force the initramfs update?
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| 15:37 | <vagrantc> alkisg: it might be there
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| 15:38 | <alkisg> $ cat ltsp-client-core.triggers
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| 15:38 | activate update-initramfs
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| 15:38 | ...true :)
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| 15:40 | <gbaman_> am i meant to be running that?
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| 15:40 | <alkisg> nope
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| 15:40 | <gbaman_> didnt think so
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| 15:40 | because it couldnt find it :)
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| 15:41 | will test on the pi now
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| 15:41 | * vagrantc hasn't yet prettified the rpi howto for installing ltsp onto the SD card yet | |
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| 15:45 | <gbaman_> ok, sort of worked
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| 15:46 | it booted, loaded raspi-config, it then came to a commandline
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| 15:47 | no login
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| 15:48 | <alkisg> cat /proc/cmdline
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| 15:48 | Does it have "init=/sbin/init-ltsp" there?
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| 15:48 | <gbaman_> ....
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| 15:48 | "/bin/cat: /proc/cmdline: No such file or directory"
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| 15:49 | proc folder is empty
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| 15:49 | <alkisg> mount -t proc proc /proc
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| 15:50 | ...maybe something missing in the pi image....
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| 15:50 | <gbaman_> in chroot or not?
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| 15:50 | <alkisg> In the booted client
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| 15:50 | <gbaman_> oh, ok
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| 15:50 | <alkisg> same for `cat /proc/cmdline`
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| 15:51 | * vagrantc admires gbaman_ 's persistance :) | |
| 15:52 | <gbaman_> yes it does
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| 15:52 | it has init=/sbin/init-ltsp
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| 15:52 | <alkisg> grep aufs /proc/filesystems
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| 15:53 | <gbaman_> nodev aufs
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| 15:54 | <alkisg> dpkg -l ldm
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| 15:54 | <gbaman_> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
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| 15:54 | | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
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| 15:54 | |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
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| 15:54 | ||/ Name Version Architecture Description
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| 15:54 | +++-==============-============-============-=================================
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| 15:54 | ii ldm 2:2.2.11-2 armhf LTSP display manager
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| 15:54 | <alkisg> startx
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| 15:55 | <gbaman_> mktemp: failed to create file via template `/tmp/serverauth.XXXXXXXXXX': Permission denied
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| 15:55 | xauth: timeout in locking authority file
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| 15:55 | think i broke something
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| 15:57 | <alkisg> touch /tmp/test
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| 15:57 | <gbaman_> touch: cannot touch `/tmp/test': Permission denied
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| 15:57 | hmm
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| 15:58 | interesting, sudo does not work
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| 15:58 | sudo: effective uid is not 0, is sudo installed setuid root?
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| 15:58 | right, I am going to take a break, will be back in about an hour, staring at a screen too long is bad :)
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| 15:58 | thanks as normal
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| 15:59 | i think the pi is a bit confused though :)
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| 16:04 | <gbaman2> and I am back, on a different machine, with ssh into it
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| 16:05 | so, any ideas?
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| 16:06 | I really would love to be able to use the official image
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| 16:06 | that way there is no need to go and install all the other software
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| 16:06 | * alkisg has never seen a PI so can't help with undo-ing the official image customizations... | |
| 16:06 | <gbaman2> :)
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| 16:06 | * gbaman2 thinks alkisg should get a pi... | |
| 16:07 | <alkisg> I think they're too slow to be usable in schools
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| 16:07 | <gbaman2> cant go wrong for $35 though
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| 16:07 | for what they use them for though
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| 16:07 | <alkisg> For 50 you can get a dual core arm stick instead
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| 16:08 | ...and be able to make a decent fat client out of it
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| 16:08 | <gbaman2> they arnt going to be used for web browsing or heavy stuff like that
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| 16:08 | they are designed to program on
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| 16:08 | <alkisg> Right, that's why they're not suitable as ltsp clients for schools...
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| 16:08 | <gbaman2> there is no reason they shouldnt work nearly as well as if it is running off an SD card
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| 16:09 | <alkisg> Sure, I think it's too slow from the sd card too
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| 16:09 | <gbaman2> the performance they get running of an SD card is suitable for what many schools need
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| 16:09 | if we can replicate that with LTSP i am happy
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| 16:10 | and so will many teachers
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| 16:10 | maintaining a single OS
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| 16:10 | and making it perfect
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| 16:10 | then the pis boot it, much easier than maintaining 30 sd cards
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| 16:11 | <alkisg> All schools here need web browsing, so I don't think anyone will want a PI... but if they suit your needs, sure, you should be able to get it to run as an ltsp client, as fast as if it was booted from the sd card...
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| 16:12 | http://www.pandawill.com/search/result/?c=&q=MeLE&x=0&y=0
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| 16:12 | <alkisg> Some of them there might make decent ltsp clients, I want to buy a couple of those at some point...
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| 16:13 | Something dual core with 1 gb ram, at least
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| 16:14 | <gbaman2> they dont have the community behind them though
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| 16:14 | they also dont have 1.3 million of them sold
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| 16:14 | they dont have GPIO pins
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| 16:14 | and they run android
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| 16:15 | <alkisg> They can run a browser with flash etc locally, while pi can't, that's the whole issue :)
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| 16:15 | <gbaman2> you cant run flash on IOS :)
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| 16:15 | it can do HTML5
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| 16:15 | flash is dieing
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| 16:15 | <alkisg> Android runs flash, but I would be interested to put ubuntu on them
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| 16:16 | <gbaman2> android flash was discontinued
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| 16:16 | the big one though is GPIO pins
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| 16:16 | cross between an arduino and one of those android sticks
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| 16:17 | <alkisg> We have like 10 Gb of educational software that relies on flash... but it's not just flash, if a device can't run firefox/flash then it usually can't even run libreoffice locally either
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| 16:17 | <gbaman2> it can run libreoffice
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| 16:17 | i have used it
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| 16:17 | it takes a little longer than a normal machine to load it, but it works well once loaded
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| 16:17 | <alkisg> You've used impress in pi?
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| 16:17 | And you were able to make a presentation of 10 slides in it?
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| 16:18 | That usually requires 1 gb ram...
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| 16:18 | <gbaman2> I have not used impress yet, only the word and excel alternative
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| 16:18 | whatever they are called
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| 16:18 | I dont use my pi though for that sort of stuff
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| 16:18 | I use it for python and hardware stuff
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| 16:19 | one of my pis is currently the brain of a robot
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| 16:19 | which can be remote controlled by a wiimote with a camera feeding back live feed
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| 16:19 | <alkisg> Gotcha, we have different goals, our ltsp installations in schools here completely fill all the software needs, so schools don't need to have standalone PCs or windows etc at all
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| 16:19 | <gbaman2> ah
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| 16:19 | <alkisg> That's why I'm not interested in pi :)
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| 16:20 | <gbaman2> we arnt suggesting dumping old machines
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| 16:20 | the pi is a companion
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| 16:20 | but, could be a full blown machine if used as a thin client?
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| 16:20 | which seems to work quite well once loaded
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| 16:21 | as i by mistake loaded it in thin client mode
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| 16:21 | was rather snappy
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| 16:21 | <alkisg> It should work reasonably well as a thin client, although we never buy thin client hardware, we propose fat clients instead... for example,
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| 16:21 | !flash
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| 16:21 | <ltsp> flash: Yes, flash sucks. An HD full screen 30 fps video needs 2.5 Gbps bandwidth (1920×1080×4×30)! Make sure you have LDM_DIRECTX=True in your lts.conf file, or if it's just youtube you're after, try some flash replacing plugin like http://linterna-magica.nongnu.org
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| 16:21 | <alkisg> ...we don't have 2.5 gbps per client...
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| 16:22 | (it's not just flash; anything that needs 30fps would need the same bandwidth)
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| 16:24 | <gbaman2> lol
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| 16:24 | well, for normal stuff
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| 16:28 | now, another question
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| 16:29 | student wishes to change their password...
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| 16:29 | <vagrantc> there are several other relatvely cheap pi alternatives that are much more impressive
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| 16:29 | <gbaman2> with GPIO pins vagrantc?
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| 16:29 | <vagrantc> they're not at all unique to the pi
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| 16:30 | cubieboard and the beaglebone black have them, i think
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| 16:30 | both of which should be able to run plain debian, faster proc, more ram...
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| 16:34 | and the pi GPIO pins are prne to damaging hardware if you mess up the voltage, whereas many of the other have regulator that dramatically reduces the risk
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| 16:35 | <gbaman2> cubieboard is $69 and not available in the UK? and I had never heard of the bb black, liking it though
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| 16:36 | and yes, the pis gpio pins go straight into the processor, I have not had any problems with them yet though as long as you are careful
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| 16:37 | <vagrantc> but at a mere $35 each, they're disposable anyways :p
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| 16:38 | <gbaman2> yip :)
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| 16:38 | for motors and stuff like that, I use a cheap £3 motor controller
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| 16:38 | <vagrantc> i got a cubieboard with case and everything for less than that
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| 16:38 | <gbaman2> also, the pi can be clocked up to something like 1.1GHz
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| 16:39 | normally I clock mine at 1GHz
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| 16:39 | and I rarely have any issues
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| 16:39 | and if the OS is on an LTSP server then no problem with clocking it even slightly higher
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| 16:42 | but, as you say, they are disposable and cheap enough that if one didnt have required features, just get the other
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| 16:42 | anyways, back to my question
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| 16:42 | student wishes to change their password...
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| 16:43 | they can go to the server and change it there
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| 16:43 | or I have heard remoteapps
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| 16:43 | but have found very very little documentation about it
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| 16:43 | <BurnedBrain> hi all
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| 16:44 | <gbaman2> hey
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| 16:44 | <alkisg> gbaman2: you're using the PIs as fat clients?
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| 16:44 | <gbaman2> yes
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| 16:44 | <vagrantc> gbaman2: there isn't much documentation about it. i think you just need to enable it in lts.conf
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| 16:44 | <alkisg> Then yeah, one way is to use the userinfo app + remote apps
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| 16:45 | <gbaman2> alkisg, go on...
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| 16:46 | <alkisg> Let me check for the .desktop file...
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| 16:47 | gbaman2: http://www.epoptes.org/documentation/fat-clients
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| 16:47 | But instead of epoptes.desktop, you'd use sed on redhad-userinfo.desktop
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| 16:47 | <BurnedBrain> epoptes :(
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| 16:47 | my installation failed :(
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| 16:47 | <alkisg> Why the sad face? :)
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| 16:47 | <gbaman2> :(
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| 16:48 | <alkisg> Why?
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| 16:48 | <BurnedBrain> doesn't start
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| 16:48 | <gbaman2> that is one thing i will get round to eventually, epoptes on the machines
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| 16:48 | <BurnedBrain> i used ubuntu 12.04 lts
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| 16:49 | <gbaman2> ok, i will try that then alkisg
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| 16:49 | <BurnedBrain> ltsp works well
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| 16:49 | <alkisg> BurnedBrain: epoptes is generally easy to troubleshoot... did you follow the epoptes.org/installation page?
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| 16:49 | <BurnedBrain> but i have to install some "simply" to use by the end user
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| 16:49 | oh, sure
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| 16:50 | i think is something wrong in my ubuntu..
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| 16:50 | <alkisg> Well, if you're on your ltsp server, we can troubleshoot epoptes in a few minutes...
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| 16:51 | <BurnedBrain> oh..
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| 16:51 | :)
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| 16:51 | just a few second to connect to my server
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| 16:51 | thanks in advance :D
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| 16:52 | <alkisg> np, how? ssh or vnc or x2go?
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| 16:52 | <BurnedBrain> i usually use vnc
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| 16:52 | <alkisg> OK, so you have access to the display, nice
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| 16:53 | <BurnedBrain> yes... is a vmware virtual machine
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| 16:53 | <DJUnreal> miaow
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| 16:53 | <alkisg> hm, but you can't access a client now, can you?
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| 16:53 | ...to test if it actually works...
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| 16:54 | Anyways, we can check some stuff even without booting clients
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| 16:54 | <DJUnreal> alkisg: any chance you can do me a quick favour?
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| 16:54 | <alkisg> Like?
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| 16:54 | <DJUnreal> this ifcpu64 malarky... how does it work?
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| 16:54 | like how do i enable it?
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| 16:55 | <alkisg> In $CHROOT/etc/ltsp/update-kernels.conf, there's a line there you can uncomment
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| 16:55 | # Use ifcpu64.c32 to detect 64-bit, PAE or 32-bit machines.
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| 16:55 | #PXELINUX_DEFAULT=ltsp-ifcpu64-NFS
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| 16:55 | #IFCPU64=true
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| 16:56 | <DJUnreal> okay... so do i just build one 64-bit image
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| 16:56 | and uncomment those lines?
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| 16:56 | or do i need the multiple images i already have?
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| 16:56 | <alkisg> You need multiple images, if a single image with pae and non-pae isn't good enought for you
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| 16:57 | http://www.syslinux.org/wiki/index.php/Ifcpu64.c32
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| 16:58 | <BurnedBrain> alkisg, can i paste the error code in PM ?
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| 16:58 | <alkisg> Sure
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| 16:59 | BurnedBrain: did you run epoptes from your vnc session? it looks like you don't have access to display
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| 16:59 | E.g. you can't run epoptes via ssh...
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| 16:59 | <DJUnreal> ahh ok, ta
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| 16:59 | * DJUnreal thinks his more-customised-approach is probably going to be a tad more helpful | |
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| 17:01 | <BurnedBrain> uh! u say that i have to try to run epoptes directly on the server?
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| 17:01 | <alkisg> BurnedBrain: or on a thin client
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| 17:01 | Where are you trying to run it from?
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| 17:02 | <BurnedBrain> i try on the vnc client and directly on the VM
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| 17:02 | <alkisg> You can also run it from fat clients or standalone clients, but it does require a bit of extra coniguration
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| 17:02 | Directly on the VM is fine
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| 17:02 | <BurnedBrain> i obtain the same error
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| 17:03 | <alkisg> Can you vnc to me so that we share the same screen? x11vnc -connect alkisg.dyndns.org
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| 17:04 | (assuming you do have access to the X display...)
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| 17:09 | <BurnedBrain> wow alkisg
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| 17:09 | <alkisg> BurnedBrain: you missed all the steps from the installation page :) http://www.epoptes.org/installation
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| 17:09 | gpasswd -a username epoptes
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| 17:09 | and chroot epoptes-client -c
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| 17:09 | <BurnedBrain> ups.. :/
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| 17:09 | <alkisg> You need to logout + login again, to be able to run epoptes from the gui (for the group change to take effect)
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| 17:10 | Once ltsp-update-image finishes, logout,
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| 17:10 | and then you're all set, clients should work too
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| 17:10 | <BurnedBrain> ok
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| 17:10 | * alkisg closes vnc... | |
| 17:10 | <BurnedBrain> thanks
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| 17:10 | <alkisg> np
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| 17:10 | * BurnedBrain without words :) | |
| 17:10 | <BurnedBrain> 10 +++
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