IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 14 September 2015 (all times are UTC)
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| 09:04 | <munesh> hello chansrv
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| 09:04 | i try to impliment ltsp at my office
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| 09:04 | <alkisg> ChanServ is a program, channel server
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| 09:05 | <munesh> but i have issue in configure network for ltsp
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| 09:05 | <alkisg> What issue?
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| 09:06 | <munesh> i cant able to boot from termil pc
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| 09:10 | <alkisg> munesh: which tutorial did you follow?
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| 09:33 | <munesh> please can send me proper tutorial for impliment
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| 09:33 | <munesh> i have pc with two lan adaptor
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| 09:34 | and pre install ubuntu server 14
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| 09:35 | hi
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| 09:35 | <alkisg> !ltsp-pnp
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| 09:35 | <ltsp> ltsp-pnp: ltsp-pnp is an alternative (upstream) method to maintain LTSP installations for thin and fat clients that doesn't involve chroots: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
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| 09:35 | <alkisg> Try this one ^
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| 09:36 | Don't use ubuntu server, use ubuntu desktop cd
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| 09:36 | And one network card
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| 09:37 | <munesh> but i have loat to applications on my ubuntu server
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| 09:38 | <alkisg> The ltsp server needs to have xorg installed, a graphics environment tec
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| 09:38 | etc
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| 09:38 | The ubuntu server cd doesn't have a graphics environment installed
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| 09:38 | You can install it now if you want, but I don't know of any tutorials to help you with that
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| 09:38 | <munesh> but i install desktop gui in server
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| 09:39 | <alkisg> Then why didn't you use the desktop cd?
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| 09:39 | <munesh> becuse i try to convert my existing system in to ltsp
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| 09:40 | <alkisg> OK
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| 09:40 | <munesh> my main requrment is use ltsp clint for development in my company
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| 09:41 | <alkisg> You can install ltsp on top of your existing system, and it should be easy
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| 09:41 | Unfortunately I don't know of any good tutorial that describes how to do that classic setup
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| 09:41 | <munesh> i done evry thing
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| 09:42 | and i also build thik clint suscessfully
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| 09:42 | <alkisg> When you try to boot a client, what message do you see?
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| 09:42 | <munesh> but i thik i make some mistake in dhcp configuration
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| 09:43 | it try to connect and after some waiting thine clint boot with there origenal os
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| 09:46 | can send me proper networking configuration setting for ltsp
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| 09:47 | i my cash i have one router with ip range from 192.168.1.0 to 192.168.1.100
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| 09:48 | <alkisg> What IP do you have for your internal network card?
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| 09:52 | <munesh> i use 192.168.1.5 for ltsp server machine
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| 09:52 | on network adaptor eth0
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| 09:52 | <alkisg> and for eth1?
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| 09:52 | <munesh> 192.168.1.102
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| 09:53 | <alkisg> When you install ltsp with 2 network cards, they are supposed to be in different subnets
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| 09:53 | If they are not, then use one NIC, not two...
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| 09:54 | <munesh> know tell me if i use one NIC then how i can shear internet in termnals
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| 09:54 | <alkisg> The terminals will get internet from the router
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| 09:55 | You have one subnet, don't you?
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| 09:55 | <munesh> ok , please can you send me proper configuration setting for one nic
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| 09:56 | <alkisg> With one nic, you don't install dhcp server in the ltsp server
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| 09:56 | You use the one from the router
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| 09:56 | !proxydhcp
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| 09:56 | <ltsp> proxydhcp: A proxy DHCP server is defined by the PXE specification as a server which sends auxiliary boot information to clients, like the boot filename, tftp server or rootpath, but leaves the task of IP leasing to the normal DHCP server. More info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ProxyDHCP
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| 09:56 | <alkisg> Read this ^... but also remove isc-dhcp-server
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| 09:59 | <munesh> ok know first i remove dhcp server from my system
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| 13:01 | <myrdd> Hello all, I'm on Debian Wheezy and trying to switch from NFS to NBD. The contents of "pxelinux.cfg/default" are already correct. But when the client boots, I get the message "can't open '/scripts/nbd'". Obviously "/usr/share/initramfs-tools/init" wants to source "/scripts/nbd", which does not exist. Shouldn't it be instead "/scripts/local-top/nbd"?
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| 15:04 | <alkisg> myrdd: you probably have the wrong cmdline for nbd
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| 15:04 | It's not "boot=nbd", it's root=/dev/nbd0
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| 15:05 | You shouldn't need to edit that by hand; set update-kernels.conf instead
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| 15:08 | <myrdd> alkisg: in the update-kernels.conf: CMDLINE_NBD="root=/dev/nbd0"
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| 15:10 | In pxelinux.cfg/default it _does_ end up as "root=/dev/nbd0"
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| 15:11 | However, there's no "nbdroot" option – is this an issue?
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| 17:16 | <alkisg> myrdd: can you paste the whole cmdline here?
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| 17:17 | <alkisg> There's no need for nbdroot if your dhcp server is set up correctly
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| 17:22 | <myrdd> work_alkisg: you mean that?
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| 17:22 | append ro initrd=initrd.img-3.2.0-4-amd64 init=/sbin/init-ltsp quiet root=/dev/nbd0
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| 17:24 | <work_alkisg> myrdd: grep BOOT /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf
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| 17:24 | What do you have there?
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| 17:24 | (in the chroot)
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| 17:25 | Or, try adding boot=local in the command line
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| 17:25 | boot=nfs => uses scripts/nfs
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| 17:25 | nbd uses scripts/local
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| 17:25 | The BOOT variable in the configs lets you define something else
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| 17:26 | But nothing sets BOOT=nbd, so it's some local change in your setup
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| 17:27 | Also remove quiet to make it more verbose
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| 17:31 | <myrdd> with "boot=local" the client boots successfully. So now I'm searching where the BOOT=nbd comes from
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| 18:03 | <myrdd> work_alkisg: I can't find anything defining BOOT=nbd, so I'll work around the problem by adding "boot=local" to "CMDLINE_NBD" in update-kernels.conf
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| 18:05 | work_alkisg: FYI, I've put some of my searches in a pastebin. https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8846312
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| 18:16 | <vagrantc> default is usually boot=local, at least with initramfs-tools ...
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| 18:17 | nbd hooks in with a local-top script
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| 18:19 | myrdd: i missed some of the context, what's the issue?
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| 18:21 | <myrdd> Hi vagrantc, the issue is, I need to manually set "boot=local", otherwise the client cannot boot. The message is as follows:
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| 18:21 | Begin: Mounting root file system ... /init: .: line 220: can't open '/scripts/nbd'
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| 18:21 | I have no idea where the BOOT=nbd comes from
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| 18:21 | <vagrantc> what distro?
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| 18:21 | <myrdd> debian wheezy
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| 18:22 | both server and client, both amd64
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| 18:23 | I suppose the DHCP server isn't involved here. No?
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| 18:24 | <vagrantc> is your pxelinux.cfg/default a symlink?
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| 18:25 | either in /srv/tftp/ltsp/amd64/ or /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/amd64 ?
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| 18:25 | is this a new install, or an old one?
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| 18:26 | myrdd: is the BOOT=nbd in your pxelinux.cfg/default file? what about pxelinux.cfg/ltsp?
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| 18:26 | <myrdd> No symlink. Also, none of the parent dirs is a symlink.
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| 18:27 | <vagrantc> ok, if pxelinux.cfg/default isn't a symlink, then ltsp-update-kernels won't update it ... it only updates pxelinux.cfg/ltsp*
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| 18:27 | and creates pxelinux.cfg/default as a symlink to "ltsp" if not already present ...
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| 18:28 | this allows local admins to configure custom boot entries... and shoot themselves in the foot :)
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| 18:28 | <myrdd> So "default" should be a symlink?
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| 18:28 | ah-ha -.-
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| 18:28 | <vagrantc> myrdd: is the BOOT=nbd in your pxelinux.cfg/default file? what about pxelinux.cfg/ltsp?
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| 18:29 | or rather, boot=nbd
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| 18:29 | <myrdd> one moment pls
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| 18:30 | <vagrantc> myrdd: is this a new install, or an old one?
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| 18:31 | <myrdd> old install, that is, it has been a fresh wheezy installation, and now I'm switching the existing chroot from NFS to NBD
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| 18:34 | vagrantc: In fact pxelinux.cfg/default _does_ change when I run "ltsp-update-kernels"
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| 18:34 | <vagrantc> but it's not a symlink?
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| 18:34 | <myrdd> no
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| 18:34 | <vagrantc> i thought that was implemented in wheezy, but maybe not till after wheezy...
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| 18:35 | myrdd: could you paste your update-kernels.conf ?
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| 18:37 | <myrdd> vagrantc: update-kernels.conf, without comments: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8846315
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| 18:39 | <vagrantc> myrdd: and where is the BOOT=nbd or boot=nbd showing up?
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| 18:41 | <myrdd> ah. Nowhere visibly. I am _guessing_, due to the source code, that BOOT appears to be "nbd".
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| 18:42 | This is what I'm referring to: http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/kernel/initramfs-tools.git/tree/init?h=wheezy#n220
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| 18:43 | line 220
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| 18:44 | <vagrantc> so, you had this working with NFS ... what *exactly* did you change when you tried to switch to NBD?
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| 18:44 | <myrdd> The client shows the following message -- before showing a Kernel Panic -- :
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| 18:44 | Begin: Mounting root file system ... /init: .: line 220: can't open '/scripts/nbd'
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| 18:45 | <vagrantc> with wheezy, you should be able to specify both options in update-kernels and use a menu to select between them
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| 18:45 | <myrdd> vagrantc: IIRC I just changed BOOT_METHODS and ONTIMEOUT
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| 18:47 | <vagrantc> myrdd: grep -r -i nbd /opt/ltsp/amd64/etc/initramfs-tools/
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| 18:47 | <myrdd> vagrantc: oh! true! I now have a menu.
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| 18:48 | That grep shows nothing…
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| 18:49 | <vagrantc> what do you mean you have a menu? your update-kernels.conf doesn't show a menu configured... ?
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| 18:49 | what's in pxelinux.cfg/default? could you paste that?
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| 18:50 | it my be in /srv/tftp/ and /var/lib/tftpboot ... see if there are any differences between the files
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| 18:50 | <myrdd> I meant that when I set "PXELINUX_DEFAULT=menu", then I get a menu at the client.
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| 18:51 | <vagrantc> yes, and then you can set BOOT_METHODS="NBD NFS"
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| 18:51 | and select which at boot
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| 18:51 | or BOOT_METHODS="NFS NBD"
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| 18:51 | <myrdd> yes, that's true. Thanks for that one.
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| 18:51 | <vagrantc> it should default to the first one in BOOT_METHODS
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| 18:52 | myrdd: grep -r -i nbd /opt/ltsp/amd64/usr/share/initramfs-tools
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| 18:52 | <myrdd> pxelinux.cfg/default : https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8846319 ( corresponding to update-kernels.conf @ https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8846315 )
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| 18:55 | <vagrantc> how did you generate the NBD image?
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| 18:55 | <myrdd> vagrantc: That `grep` has 58 lines. Wanna see it?
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| 18:56 | <vagrantc> myrdd: yes please
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| 18:56 | <myrdd> https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8846324
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| 18:58 | <vagrantc> myrdd: where's your tftp dir?
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| 18:58 | <myrdd> To generate the NBD image, I simply ran `ltsp-update-image`
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| 18:58 | <vagrantc> myrdd: sha256sum $tftp/ltsp/amd64/initrd.img* /opt/ltsp/amd64/boot/initrd.img* | sort -n
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| 18:59 | do the checksums match?
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| 18:59 | <myrdd> Well, there's /var/lib/tftpboot and /srv/tftp -- I don't know the difference yet.
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| 19:00 | <vagrantc> they're both present?
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| 19:00 | <myrdd> yes
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| 19:01 | <vagrantc> what's your tftp server?
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| 19:01 | <myrdd> umm, dnsmasq
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| 19:01 | <vagrantc> grep -r tftp /etc/dnsmasq*
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| 19:02 | <myrdd> tftp-root=/var/lib/tftpboot
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| 19:02 | <vagrantc> is tftpd-hpa installed?
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| 19:03 | <myrdd> Okay, /srv/tftp is very old -- I must have created it when I set up LTSP
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| 19:03 | <vagrantc> dpkg -l tftpd-hpa
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| 19:03 | well, /srv/tftp is the default directory for tftpd-hpa ...
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| 19:04 | <myrdd> I see. Yes, I once had tftpd-hpa installed. It's now uninstalled (status "un")
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| 19:04 | <vagrantc> which was probably installed by default when you initially installed ltsp ... though dnsmasq can also work.
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| 19:04 | <myrdd> that's it
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| 19:05 | So I'll remove /srv/tftp
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| 19:06 | <vagrantc> and after you remove it, see if your client boots at all...
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| 19:08 | which directory did your paste of pxelinux.cfg/default come from?
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| 19:08 | <myrdd> Yes, it's no problem, still works.
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| 19:08 | <vagrantc> ok, so ...
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| 19:09 | myrdd: sha256sum /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/amd64/initrd.img* /opt/ltsp/amd64/boot/initrd.img* | sort -n
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| 19:09 | do the checksums match?
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| 19:10 | <myrdd> sry the delay. so many terminal windows :) -- all sha-sums matched
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| 19:10 | It's been /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/amd64/pxelinux.cfg/default
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| 19:12 | <vagrantc> myrdd: lsinitramfs /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/amd64/initrd.img-3.2* | grep conf
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| 19:13 | i'd also like to see the output of: ltsp-info
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| 19:13 | <myrdd> https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8846329
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| 19:15 | https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8846330
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| 19:16 | Until now I've only worked on NBD for amd64
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| 19:18 | be back later
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| 19:26 | * vagrantc wonders where conf.d/ltsp comes from | |
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| 20:29 | <myrdd> By the way vagrantc, thanks for your help! I'll keep using my workaround to get NBD working. However, do you have any idea where the source of that issue could be?
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| 20:30 | <vagrantc> last place to look is in the initramfs itself ...
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| 20:31 | or you're not booting off the server you think you're booting off of
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| 20:31 | something in the initramfs is overriding the specified boot arguments
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| 20:32 | since weheezy, the same initramfs should be usable with both NFS and NBD, so it shouldn't require any hard-coding.
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| 20:32 | wheezy
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| 20:33 | but older versions did require different initramfses
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| 20:34 | <myrdd> I could try with a fresh chroot setup. It's possible to have a Jessie ltsp-chroot on a Wheezy server, no?
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| 20:35 | <vagrantc> why not just switch to jessie entirely if you're going that route?
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| 20:36 | official support for wheezy will likely end in about 6-7 months...
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| 20:36 | <myrdd> Some of the server software we're using is not compatible yet with Jessie.
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| 20:36 | Yes I know :)
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| 20:36 | So I'll stick with the workaround for now
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| 20:37 | <vagrantc> wheezy will likely get LTS support for another couple years on amd64/i386, at least
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| 20:43 | though there are builds running on bpi0 and hb0 ... if the console has lost connection to them, i wonder if it will be able to actually kill the running jobs
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| 20:44 | oops
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| 20:44 | wrong channel
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| 20:44 | <myrdd> np :)
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