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| 14:26 | <other_other_joe> Would the epoptes-client affect my ability to directly ssh into my clients?
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| 14:27 | I feel like the epoptes-client -c borked something with ssh config but my conf file is unchanged
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| 14:27 | <alkisg> No
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| 14:28 | The certificate of epoptes is completely unrelated to ssh and goes to another directory
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| 14:28 | <other_other_joe> damn
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| 14:30 | thx man
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| 14:30 | was hoping I had something to point the finger to
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| 14:43 | <alkisg> Open a shell from epoptes, and then try to ssh to localhost
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| 14:52 | <other_other_joe> oh I couldn't get epoptes to see any of my clients at all. I'm giving it another go now
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| 14:52 | I just re-installed openssh server in the chroot and it stopped complaining
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| 14:56 | <other_other_joe> I should be able to run epoptes with X forwarding on one of the clients, right Alkisg?
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| 14:56 | <alkisg> Sure
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| 14:56 | <other_other_joe> ssh -X server epoptes fires it up fine
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| 14:56 | it just doesn't see any clients
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| 14:56 | <alkisg> http://www.epoptes.org/documentation/fat-clients
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| 14:57 | ls -lh /etc/epoptes/server.* /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/epoptes/server.*
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| 14:58 | <other_other_joe> ls -lh /etc/epoptes/server.* /opt/ltsp/amd64/etc/epoptes/server.*
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| 14:58 | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 875 Oct 8 09:46 /etc/epoptes/server.crt
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| 14:58 | -rw------- 1 root root 916 Oct 8 09:46 /etc/epoptes/server.key
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| 14:58 | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 8 09:41 /opt/ltsp/amd64/etc/epoptes/server.crt
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| 15:00 | <alkisg> So the certificate hasn't been trasferred properly
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| 15:00 | sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/amd64 epoptes-client -c
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| 15:00 | sudo ltsp-update-image
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| 15:02 | <other_other_joe> root@ltsp01:~/.ssh# chroot /opt/ltsp/amd64/ epoptes-client -c
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| 15:02 | depth=0 C = AU, ST = Some-State, O = Internet Widgits Pty Ltd
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| 15:02 | verify error:num=18:self signed certificate
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| 15:02 | verify return:1
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| 15:02 | depth=0 C = AU, ST = Some-State, O = Internet Widgits Pty Ltd
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| 15:02 | verify return:1
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| 15:02 | DONE
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| 15:02 | Successfully fetched certificate from localhost:789
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| 15:02 | <alkisg> Not from the client
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| 15:02 | Do those on the server
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| 15:02 | <other_other_joe> twas the server
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| 15:03 | <alkisg> Err ltsp01 is the client, right?
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| 15:03 | Heh
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| 15:03 | OK, so now do the `ls` command again,
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| 15:03 | it should mention the same size
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| 15:03 | <other_other_joe> root@ltsp01:~/.ssh# ls -lh /etc/epoptes/server.* /opt/ltsp/amd64/etc/epoptes/server.*
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| 15:03 | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 875 Oct 8 09:46 /etc/epoptes/server.crt
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| 15:03 | -rw------- 1 root root 916 Oct 8 09:46 /etc/epoptes/server.key
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| 15:03 | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 875 Oct 8 10:01 /opt/ltsp/amd64/etc/epoptes/server.crt
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| 15:03 | <alkisg> OK, ltsp-update-image now
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| 15:03 | And reboot clients
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| 15:03 | <other_other_joe> I'm nfs still
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| 15:03 | <alkisg> Reboot
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| 15:03 | Er
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| 15:04 | Or restart epoptes-client, if you have local access
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| 15:04 | Whatever's easier for you
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| 15:04 | <other_other_joe> rebooting client
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| 15:05 | if I run epoptes with ssh forwarding on the client, it should be able to see itself in the list, yea?
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| 15:05 | <alkisg> Yes
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| 15:05 | <other_other_joe> ah
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| 15:06 | and there it is
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| 15:06 | <other_other_joe> I swear I did all that...
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| 15:06 | :)
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| 15:06 | thx man
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| 15:07 | <alkisg> np
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| 15:09 | <other_other_joe> I was reading about pNFS in nfs4.1
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| 15:09 | have you played with it at all?
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| 15:10 | I'd love to have a robust storage cloud behind this thing
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| 15:10 | anytime nfs hiccups my users all open tickets...
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| 15:11 | <alkisg> Nah, I'd like to hear from someone using pnfs in an ltsp setup though
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| 15:11 | xnbd uses a similar approach for nbd images
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| 15:12 | And, sometimes I also use...
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| 15:12 | !local-nbd
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| 15:12 | <ltsp> Error: "local-nbd" is not a valid command.
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| 15:12 | <alkisg> !local-boot
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| 15:12 | <ltsp> local-boot: If you want LTSP fat clients on a low-speed network, you can put i386.img on e.g. C:\Boot\LTSP\i386.img and use this command line in pxelinux.cfg: APPEND ro initrd=ltsp/i386/initrd.img init=/sbin/init-ltsp root=/dev/sda1 rootflags=ro loop=/Boot/LTSP/i386.img; IPAPPEND 3
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| 15:12 | <other_other_joe> yea, I'm trying to figure a good way of using that still
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| 15:12 | I got 8gig flash cards for all my clients
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| 15:12 | <alkisg> You can copy the image from within epoptes
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| 15:13 | select all clients, run 1 command, go for a 1h coffee, done
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| 15:13 | <other_other_joe> well, I need to figure a good way to have them use the card unless I've made changes to the image
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| 15:13 | so boot, check the image hash, if it doesn't match download and reboot
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| 15:13 | probably
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| 15:14 | <alkisg> If you make changes to the image, pxelinux.cfg/default gets updated, so they use the new image until you fix that file
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| 15:14 | So no need to tell the clients anything... :)
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| 15:14 | the new image ==> from the net
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| 15:14 | <other_other_joe> haha right right
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| 15:15 | that's true, I can change the image and just reboot them all at night
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| 15:15 | the copy the new image to cache
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| 15:15 | then\
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| 15:15 | <alkisg> Yup... cheers for now, bbl
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| 15:29 | <sligett> ltsp on Ubuntu12.04 (edubuntu 12.04 I think (my memory failing)) Question - does setting LOCAL_APPS_MENU enable clicking on items in Unity dock? (given that LOCAL_APPS is true)
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| 15:56 | <mip5> Morning folks - I'm running ltsp on ubuntu 12.04.3 with fatclients. We need to run chromium-browser with a user agent switcher (set to chrome and chrome OS) so we can access some online testing sites (NWEA). I've got chromium installed in the chroot. Is there a way to install user agent switcher and configure it from cli? Any ideas on how I would set this up?
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| 16:04 | <||cw> mip5: I'd imagine the same as you'd do for multiple users on a standalone system
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| 16:05 | soit's really more of a chrome+global add-ons thing
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| 16:09 | <vagrantc> mip5: LDM doesn't support user-agent-switcher
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| 16:10 | mip5: but you could set up a chromium kiosk or something on an alternate tty from LDM
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| 16:14 | <mip5> vagrantc: Thanks. How would I setup a chromium kiosk? Would I make a separate chroot build that would be a thin client, and have it auto login?
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| 16:16 | <mip5> llcw: I was thinking the same thing, but was not sure how to do that either!
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| 16:16 | <alkisg> vagrantc: user agent switcher is for chrome to send different headers, not for switching between user sessions....
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| 16:16 | (in case you understood the second one)
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| 16:17 | mip5: just install the plugin per user
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| 16:17 | <||cw> I was just wondering that
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| 16:18 | <sligett> Does LOCAL_APPS_MENU_ITEMS work in Unity environment?
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| 16:18 | <mip5> alkisg: so, I would have to login as each user and install and set it up that way? I can definitely do that, but figured (hoped) that there would be a more efficient way.
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| 16:18 | <alkisg> No idea, most people with ubuntu + ltsp don't use unity... :)
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| 16:18 | mip5: that part is not at all ltsp related, so ask in #ubuntu or in #mozilla etc
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| 16:19 | or #chrome etc
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| 16:19 | On how to globally install an extension
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| 16:19 | <sligett> Well, isn't what you get w edubuntu 12.04 ltsp install unity?
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| 16:19 | <alkisg> sligett: afaik edubuntu uses gnome-fallback by default
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| 16:20 | <mip5> alkisg: okay - thanks, I'll do that.
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| 16:20 | <alkisg> As it's more thin-client-friendly
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| 16:20 | Not 100% sure about it though, it might be using unity-2d as the default and just ship fallback
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| 16:21 | <sligett> Hmmm. Well, we have a "dock" on the left side of the screen. I assumed that meant Unity.
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| 16:21 | <alkisg> Yup, that's unity
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| 16:21 | dpkg -l gnome-session-fallback
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| 16:22 | ==> that will tell you if gnome-session-fallback is installed
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| 16:22 | <alkisg> If so, you'll be able to select it from the LDM Preferences menu...
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| 16:23 | <sligett> Ok, if I do that, then if I put the LOCAL_APPS, LOCAL_APPS_MENU, and LOCAL_APPS_MENU_ITEMS commands in lts.conf, wil local apps "just work"? (if installled in chroot....)
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| 16:24 | <alkisg> Just the menu* ones will suffice
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| 16:26 | <sligett> And then magic will happen, and users won't need to use ltsp-localapps <app name>? (I really really appreciate your time here.)
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| 16:26 | <alkisg> Yup
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| 16:26 | <sligett> I like magic.
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| 16:27 | <alkisg> Only the white one myself, I don't like zombies etc...
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| 16:28 | <sligett> well, zombie processes haven't bothered me - just leave them to themselves is my philopsophy.
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| 16:31 | Oh, is making flash work on local-app'd Firefox simple, too? (Sorry for all the questions - googling brings up info from the 10.04 era. (a good era, that's true.)
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| 16:32 | <alkisg> It's just about launching programs, not about magically making them work :) If ltsp-localapps firefox doesn't show flash, then LOCALAPPS_MENU* won't help.
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| 16:33 | <vagrantc> mip5, alkisg : ah, yes, i was confused about wht you meant by user-agent switcher
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| 16:34 | <sligett> Cool - I'll be at my server updating things in an hour or so. fingers crossed.
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| 17:48 | <mip5> Thanks gang - I got it all sorted it in the chromium-support room. Command line launcher that passes URL and --user-agent string did the trick. Take care
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| 19:45 | <bcdonadio> mgariepy, I'm getting a lot of PHP errors in the ltsp-cluster-control interface. Is it supposed to work or it's really broken?
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| 19:46 | <mgariepy> bcdonadio, which version of ubuntu ?
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| 19:47 | bcdonadio, it hasn't been tested a lot lately.. last version of ubuntu i installed it on is 12.04, it was working fine (as fine as it can..)
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| 19:48 | <bcdonadio> saucy
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| 19:49 | <mgariepy> bcdonadio, can you install it on 12.04 ?
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| 19:49 | <bcdonadio> If i use precise on ltsp-cluster-control and saucy everywhere else, should it work?
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| 19:49 | <mgariepy> yeah
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| 19:49 | it won't be a problem since it's only serving configuration for the thin clients.
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| 19:50 | <bcdonadio> mgariepy, ok, I will try it, thanks
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| 19:51 | <mgariepy> bcdonadio, you are welcome
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| 22:19 | <staffencasa> anyone wanna help me troubleshoot an issue ssh'ing into a client from my ltsp server?
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| 22:52 | <Hyperbyte> !ask
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| 22:52 | <ltsp> ask: Don't ask to ask a question, simply ask it, and if someone knows the answer, they'll respond. Please hang around for at least a full hour after asking a question, as not everybody constantly monitors the channel.
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| 23:41 | <bennabiy> Hey hyperbyte, I hope I did not make you made a while ago, when you !ask ed me
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| 23:42 | It seemed like you might have gotten a little frustrated, but I wanted to make sure there was no hard feelings, and if so, I am sorry
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| 23:42 | Staffencasa, what issue are you having?
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| 23:48 | <Hyperbyte> bennabiy, there are no hard feelings. It's just annoying that people don't say -what- they want.
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| 23:48 | Or at least specifically say. If staffencasa had provided some more info, perhaps an error message he's getting, both you and I could've given him an answer already.
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| 23:49 | That's why I !ask... :-) It's what it's there for.
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