IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 23 July 2010 (all times are UTC)
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| 02:07 | <alkisg> Heh, nbd-server for windows: http://www.vanheusden.com/windows/nbdsrvr/
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| 02:07 | So I guess it's possible to use LTSP without Linux! (pxe/tftp => nbd => rdesktop)
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| 02:11 | <muppis> Does LTSP stand for Linux Terminal Server Project?
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| 02:13 | <alkisg> Yup
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| 02:13 | <muppis> So it couldn't (as I think of..) be LTS anymore, if there is Windows as server..
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| 02:13 | <alkisg> The boot OS would be still Linux :)
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| 02:13 | (the nbd image)
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| 02:14 | I mean that a Linux server wouldn't be necessary, but the virtual client disk would still contain a linux os
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| 02:15 | <muppis> And I count it vice versa.
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| 02:16 | But using Windows in client disk would some kind of masochism..
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| 02:16 | would be..
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| 02:16 | <alkisg> ...if not impossible
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| 02:18 | <muppis> That's ture. Dos -based Windows (95/98/me) would work, done that.
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| 02:19 | <alkisg> Yeah having a net disk over int 13h is easy, but that's not possible with the NT series
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| 02:19 | <muppis> Actually I did diskless Win95. Booted from CD, created RAMdrive, copied whole punch from CD to RAM and then started Windows.
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| 02:19 | <alkisg> The biggest problem is hardware changes on the clients though
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| 02:20 | So even with windows 9x, you can't have win-based thin clients that work out of the box independed of the client hardware
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| 02:21 | With linux, kids come to schools and boot their netbooks as thin or fat clients. That's pretty much impossible with any windows technology so far...
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| 02:22 | <muppis> That's true.
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| 02:23 | <muppis> By the way. It should be hottest time in year here in Finland (and sure it is, been over 25C whole month) and it's snowing NW part of Finland..
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| 02:24 | <alkisg> omg!
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| 02:29 | <hiltunen> Hello
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| 02:41 | <alkisg> Good morning
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| 05:30 | <Atomic007za> hi
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| 06:30 | <beaconhurst> hi anyone here
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| 06:45 | <alkisg> \ask
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| 06:45 | !ask
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| 06:45 | <ltspbot`> alkisg: "ask" :: Don't ask to ask a question, simply ask it, and if someone knows the answer, they'll respond. Please hang around for at least 15 minutes after asking a question, as not everybody constantly monitors the channel.
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| 07:59 | <pmatulis> in ubuntu, are local apps set up on lucid the same as on jaunty? the ubuntu docs at help.ubuntu.com don't cover lucid
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| 08:05 | <alkisg> pmatulis: the most recent page is about karmic, follow that one
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| 08:05 | Both the karmic + jaunty pages are unnecessarily complicated, but karmic is a little better.
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| 08:06 | So, something like that: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSPKarmicLocalAppsFirefox
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| 08:06 | <pmatulis> alkisg: ok, thought that was especially for firefox
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| 08:06 | <alkisg> pmatulis: it is, but you can just use "apt-get install yourprogram" instead of "apt-get install firefox" there
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| 08:07 | <pmatulis> alkisg: yeah, ok, thanks
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| 08:08 | <alkisg> Feel free to write a new page at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LocalApps with all the correct info for Lucid+
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| 08:27 | <pmatulis> what is the trick to get a terminal running on the client again?
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| 08:28 | <alkisg> !localxterm
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| 08:28 | <ltspbot`> alkisg: "localxterm" :: while sitting on a thin client, open a gnome terminal. In that, run: ltsp-localapps xterm. An xterm will open. That xterm runs locally, so any commands you enter there are executed directly on the client.
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| 08:29 | <pmatulis> alkisg: yeah, think that
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| 08:29 | is it
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| 08:31 | <pmatulis> alkisg: you nailed it, thanks
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| 08:32 | <alkisg> np
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| 08:39 | <slin_> re
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| 08:39 | i have an issue, with ltsp cluster.
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| 08:40 | basicly i have 2 appservers, with ubuntu 9.10 - thats working fine
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| 08:40 | i updated one of the appservers to 10.4 LTS, for testing. basicly OK, but the sound were gone
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| 08:40 | the boot server and the boot images are still 9.10
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| 08:41 | any idea?
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| 09:22 | <markjenkinsparit> !seen sbalneav
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| 09:22 | <ltspbot`> markjenkinsparit: sbalneav was last seen in #ltsp 8 weeks, 1 day, 21 hours, 41 minutes, and 19 seconds ago: <sbalneav> win 1
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| 10:18 | <mgariepy> morning guys
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| 10:18 | any of you had seen nbd_server Not enough magic in syslog ?
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| 10:20 | <vagrantc> we do live in a more mundane world these days, it's true. funny that nbd would be the one to notice, though
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| 10:20 | <alkisg> Lol
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| 10:20 | <mgariepy> hehe
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| 10:23 | <alkisg> mgariepy: no, I haven't seen it, that message seems to be in the request packet analyzing phase of nbd-server, so it shouldn't be too common
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| 10:23 | Maybe problems in nbd-proxy or in the network could cause it?
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| 10:23 | (I'm not using nbd-proxy...
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| 10:26 | <mgariepy> alkisg, hmm i'll try disabling nbd-proxy
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| 10:27 | i'm aware it's not common it's the first time i saw this in 30 months ;)
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| 13:19 | <coordinador> Hi, i use ltsp5 and ubuntu 9.04, suddenly vinagre doesnt find vnc servers in network, possibly vncserver doesnt notify to avahi
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| 13:19 | so i cannot monitor users
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| 13:21 | to monitor them i have to put manually servername:5900, 5901, etc..
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| 13:39 | <alkisg> coordinador: I filed this bug, maybe you should do the same: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=625062
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| 13:39 | It isn't LTSP related, I don't think anyone here will be able to help you.
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| 13:39 | <coordinador> thank you very much, alkisg , i will check it
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| 13:42 | <alkisg> muppis: about the local firefox and the themes problem, I think the missing package is gnome-settings-daemon. E.g. if you try `killall gnome-settings-daemon` in a normal session, you'll lose the decorations and it will look like a localapps firefox.
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| 13:43 | Unfortunately, it depends on gconf, so I'm not sure if it will work. If you ever try to install it in the chroot, make a backup first.
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| 14:58 | <coordinador> what about if i restart avahi daemon? users will disconnect or some?
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| 15:44 | <muppis> alkisg, thanks for info about localapss firefox. I was doing other case past two weeks, so I haven't done nothing about this. I must try it at monday morning.
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| 15:44 | Not two weeks, this week only.
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| 15:44 | <alkisg> muppis: ok, but I don't think it'll work because of gconf, so do keep a backup of /opt/ltsp before you try it
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| 15:45 | <muppis> I try to remember that.
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