IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 22 September 2011 (all times are UTC)
| 00:04 | <andygraybeal> i thought getting 64bit clients would be hard enough :)
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| 00:05 | <Roasted> haha, yeah...
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| 00:06 | we just have a lab of old emacs and we were struggling to find gear to convert them to ltsp
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| 00:06 | but then I was like, wait, they can network boot...
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| 00:06 | but, powerpc. :/
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| 00:06 | just a thought before I dive in and rip it apart - but tha's not even for a week or two
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| 00:06 | <andygraybeal> :)
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| 00:07 | it's funny you wrote 'emacs' .. i'm sure unaware
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| 00:07 | <Roasted> yeah
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| 00:07 | emacs
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| 00:07 | http://withfriendship.com/images/h/38309/EMac-picture.jpg
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| 00:07 | :)
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| 00:07 | <andygraybeal> is there actual hardware called emacs?
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| 00:07 | aaah
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| 00:07 | <Roasted> older macs
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| 00:07 | STORMSHIP TROOPER
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| 00:07 | take the back shell off and it doubles as a very nice star wars helmet for halloween
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| 00:07 | <andygraybeal> had no idea there was such a peice of hardware :)
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| 00:07 | <Roasted> yeah
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| 00:07 | theyre older
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| 00:07 | <andygraybeal> hahah nice
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| 00:07 | <Roasted> and pieces of shit
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| 00:07 | but
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| 00:07 | eh
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| 00:08 | we own them, so if we can continue to use them, why not?
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| 00:08 | <andygraybeal> exatly
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| 00:08 | <Roasted> figured it was worth he effort to ask here and research a bit
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| 00:08 | :P
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| 00:09 | https://www.redhat.com/archives/k12linux-devel-list/2008-December/msg00031.html
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| 00:09 | people talk as if it might be possible?
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| 01:04 | <andygraybeal> Roasted, find anything else ?
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| 07:36 | <Hyperbyte> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/433189
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| 07:37 | I'm having this exact problem on my thin clients. Rather than going through the motions of filing a bug report, I thought I'd try here first.
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| 07:37 | This is with the DLWS Term 1720
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| 08:07 | <xagapiou> geia xara
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| 08:07 | alkisg akouei?
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| 08:07 | <Hyperbyte> I was about to say that!
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| 08:07 | <alkisg> xagapiou: hi
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| 08:07 | xagapiou: this is an english-only channel
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| 08:08 | Please join #linux.sch.gr instead
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| 08:08 | Type: /j #linux.sch.gr
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| 08:08 | <Hyperbyte> Awe. I was looking forward to improving my Greek. :(
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| 08:08 | <alkisg> Hehe, you can join #linux.sch.gr too ;)
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| 08:08 | <Hyperbyte> Oh can I can I can I? :-D
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| 08:55 | <andygraybeal_> gah, so boring.. i've been up since like 3:30am
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| 08:56 | <andygraybeal_> my rediculous cat needs to go outside before i go to sleep next time.
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| 09:15 | <Hyperbyte> Andy, cats are funny like that. :)
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| 09:16 | Our cat has found that if he climbs the roof, and whines in front of bedrooms windows long enough, people let him in.
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| 09:17 | So at 12'ish, we let him out... and around 3, 4 AM he wants to get back in to eat a little bit downstairs, and then he wants out again.
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| 09:19 | <alkisg> Haha you won't have problems when you start having kids then :D
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| 09:19 | You'll already be used to waking up in the middle of the night :D
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| 09:20 | <andygraybeal_> Hyperbyte, alkisg :) uhg
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| 09:27 | i want to get a 'cat' door
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| 09:28 | <Hyperbyte> Why don't you? :)
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| 09:28 | <andygraybeal_> good question. scared of other critters coming in and need to do research..
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| 09:29 | <Hyperbyte> Easy solution
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| 09:29 | Give your cat something sensor/magnet whatever around his neck, that 'unlocks' the cat door
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| 09:30 | <andygraybeal_> hah i'm sure my cat would love something around her neck :)
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| 09:30 | <Hyperbyte> Well, solved then.
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| 09:30 | That's actually how we got our cat.
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| 09:31 | Our cat adopted us...
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| 09:31 | Someone living few kilometers away had four or five cats, all with their own 'key' for the cat door, where they could get food.
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| 09:31 | <andygraybeal_> i was using sarcasm :) we'd need to go the route of embeding a chip in her skin
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| 09:32 | <Hyperbyte> At one point they went on vacation for a week or two, and had someone dump cat food behind the cat door, so they could eat at their own leisure...
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| 09:32 | <andygraybeal_> nice
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| 09:32 | <Hyperbyte> And our cat lost his key... so he couldn't get food. He started roaming, and we noticed he was quite, quite hungry... so we gave him food.
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| 09:33 | He stuck around since then. The original owners found him eventually, and asked for him back... we said "sure", they took him with them, and an hour later he was back with us again.
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| 09:33 | <andygraybeal_> nice
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| 09:34 | <Hyperbyte> They took him back to their house another time or two, but he had made his choice. :P
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| 09:36 | <andygraybeal_> imma lay down for 10 minutes
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| 09:36 | wait for the alarm
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| 09:38 | <junkY_San> hey
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| 09:38 | is there a way to change the console keymap on the client?
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| 09:39 | <alkisg> distro/version?
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| 09:39 | <junkY_San> ubuntu 10.04.3
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| 09:40 | <alkisg> sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
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| 09:43 | <junkY_San> all settings were already correct
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| 09:43 | <alkisg> Ah, maybe you're talking about the upstart bug
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| 09:43 | <junkY_San> i'll give it a try anyway
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| 09:43 | <alkisg> On the client where you have the problem, run: setupcon
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| 09:43 | See if the fonts are fixed for you
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| 09:44 | <junkY_San> ah it's working
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| 09:44 | without setupcon
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| 09:45 | but this is strange, i thought i checked the config file which is adapted by the dpkg-reconfigure
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| 09:45 | thanks anyway :)
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| 09:45 | <alkisg> You're welcome
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| 10:15 | <junkY_San> i'm trying to setup usb-stick-forwarding to a rdesktop session. i'm using the menu script and the menu command looks like this: "rdesktop -r disk:usbstick=/var/run/drives HOST"
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| 10:16 | logging in the rdp session i can see the drive with the subfolder "usbdisk-sdg1", but it's empty
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| 10:18 | <junkY_San> locally mounting /dev/sdg1 to /var/run/drives/usbdisk-sdg1 helps, but this is no real solution
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| 10:23 | it works flawlessly in the ldm session though
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| 10:34 | <gypsymauro> hi
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| 10:35 | I've installed ltsp on an ubuntu distro but when the client tries to boot via pxe it fails with an error "failed to connect do nbd server" any hint?
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| 10:36 | <khildin> did you update your chroot image?
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| 10:38 | <gypsymauro> yes
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| 10:39 | how can I test if the nbd is working?
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| 10:39 | <khildin> netstat -tlnp
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| 10:40 | <khildin> default port should be 2000 I think
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| 10:41 | <gypsymauro> tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:2000 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 988/inetd
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| 10:41 | it sems to work
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| 10:41 | <khildin> yup
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| 10:41 | <alkisg_kubuntu> which ubuntu version?
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| 10:41 | <gypsymauro> 10.10
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| 10:42 | <alkisg_kubuntu> Do you get a busybox shell?
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| 10:42 | try: nbd-client server-ip 2000 /dev/nbd0
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| 10:42 | On that <initramfs> shell
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| 10:43 | <gypsymauro> alkisg: yes i get the busybox
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| 10:43 | now I try that
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| 10:44 | it works
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| 10:44 | it says negotiation something ..
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| 10:44 | I can't paste :(
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| 10:45 | <alkisg> Did it say a size? About e.g. 600mb?
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| 10:45 | The same as: ls -l /opt/ltsp/images/i386.img ?
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| 10:46 | <gypsymauro> uh...I exported this [export] exportname = /opt/ltsp/i386 port = 2000
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| 10:46 | in the /etc/nbd-server/config file
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| 10:46 | it's wrong?
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| 10:46 | <alkisg> Delete that file and kill nbd-server
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| 10:46 | Yes, in 10.10 nbd-server is started via inetd
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| 10:47 | sudo rm /etc/nbd-server/config
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| 10:47 | sudo killall nbd-server
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| 10:47 | sudo service openbsd-inetd restart
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| 10:47 | Then restart the client
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| 10:50 | <gypsymauro> still the same error
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| 10:50 | on the busybox the nbdclient seems to work
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| 10:50 | (no errors..)
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| 10:50 | <alkisg> And the size is correct?
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| 10:52 | <gypsymauro> it seems
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| 10:52 | <alkisg> At the client again, try: cat /tmp/net*.conf and check the ROOTSERVER there
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| 10:52 | <gypsymauro> yes
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| 10:53 | ROOTSERVER is wrong.. the server is on another ip
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| 10:53 | and ROOTPATH is empty
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| 10:54 | <alkisg> ROOTPATH is ok to be empty
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| 10:54 | You have a dhcp problem
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| 10:54 | <junkY_San> did you split dhcp and nbd server?
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| 10:54 | <gypsymauro> I mean pxe and ltsp are on different server
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| 10:54 | yes
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| 10:54 | <alkisg> You can either solve it, or work around it by putting nbdroot=ip in pxelinux.cfg/default
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| 10:54 | <khildin> :)
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| 10:54 | <gypsymauro> i done that..
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| 10:54 | <alkisg> Better fix your dhcp server so that it points to next-server=ltsp-server
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| 10:54 | You won't have to transfer files for tftp then on every kernel update
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| 10:54 | <gypsymauro> ro initrd=ltsp-ubuntu/initrd.img quiet splash nbdroot=192.168.64.25 nbdport=2000
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| 10:55 | <alkisg> See what I wrote
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| 10:55 | nbdroot, not port
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| 10:55 | <gypsymauro> yes I wrote nbdroot=192.168.64.25 too
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| 10:55 | <alkisg> Ah I'm sorry
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| 10:55 | <gypsymauro> I've to use just one option?
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| 10:55 | <alkisg> These KDE fonts are too unreadable and small, sorry
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| 10:55 | <gypsymauro> np
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| 10:55 | <alkisg> nbdroot=ip:2000
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| 10:56 | and remove nbdport completely
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| 10:56 | But really, setting next-server would be better
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| 10:57 | <gypsymauro> good shot!
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| 10:57 | <alkisg> Did it work now?
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| 10:57 | <gypsymauro> yes
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| 10:57 | <junkY_San> you can also edit /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/ltsp/update-kernels.conf, that way it should generate your default config automatically
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| 10:57 | <alkisg> File a bug against ltsp
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| 10:57 | It should work with nbdroot / nbdport separate too
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| 10:57 | !ltsp-bug
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| 10:57 | <ltsp> alkisg: Error: "ltsp-bug" is not a valid command.
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| 10:57 | <gypsymauro> tank you :)
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| 10:58 | maybe 10.10 uses an older version
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| 10:58 | <alkisg> Nah, I don't think so
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| 10:58 | That part of the code probably is still broken
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| 10:59 | !learn ltsp-bug as To file a bug report for upstream LTSP, go to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp
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| 10:59 | <ltsp> alkisg: The operation succeeded.
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| 10:59 | <alkisg> !learn ubuntu-bug as To file a bug report for Ubuntu LTSP, go to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp
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| 10:59 | <ltsp> alkisg: The operation succeeded.
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| 11:00 | <alkisg> gypsymauro: use the first one for that
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| 11:01 | <junkY_San> should the client OS automacially mount plugged in usb drives to /var/run/drives/usbdisk-sdXx?
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| 11:02 | <alkisg> If you have localdevs enabled, yes
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| 11:03 | Search the logs, for Gadi as the username, and rdesktop as the keyword
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| 11:03 | He has mentioned the correct command line for rdesktop many times
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| 11:03 | * alkisg doesn't use it so he hasn't noted it down | |
| 11:04 | <junkY_San> are there public logs? i don't have it enabled
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| 11:04 | <alkisg> See the /topic for the link
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| 11:08 | <junkY_San> alkisg, i read it. i think it's not a syntax problem here, but a problem that the usb drive is not even mounted locally
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| 11:08 | the folders under /var/run/drives/ are created, but not mounted
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| 11:08 | so if i point rdesktop there it will just find empty directorys, and that's exactly what i see in the windows session
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| 11:08 | <alkisg> Can you mount the usb stick manually, locally on the client?
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| 11:08 | <junkY_San> yes
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| 11:09 | <alkisg> And, getltscfg -a, says that localdevs are enabled?
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| 11:09 | (or they are by default? I don't use them...)
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| 11:09 | <junkY_San> afaik they are enabled by default
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| 11:11 | but i'll try to explicitly enable it
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| 11:11 | <alkisg> !lts.conf
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| 11:11 | <ltsp> alkisg: lts.conf: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf
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| 11:11 | <alkisg> Default=True, so don't bother
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| 11:12 | But I think that something special is needed, as those only work from LDM/normal session
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| 11:12 | You didn't find what gadi proposed about this?
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| 11:23 | <Hyperbyte> It's funny how people think that because you know something about computers you're suddenly insanely knowledged about all technical matters
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| 11:23 | Someone just walked into my office saying the printer makes a funny noise, if I could take a look at it.
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| 11:23 | I told her I don't have a clue about it, that I can't help her.
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| 11:23 | "You're not even gonna look at it?" she asked me...
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| 11:24 | Heh
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| 11:24 | <alkisg> Here in Greece, IT teachers are also experts on photocopying stuff
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| 11:24 | :(
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| 11:24 | <muppis> Hyperbyte, I've noticed this. This effect comes specially from the family and relatives.
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| 11:26 | <Hyperbyte> muppis, definitely. I once read a great line from someone somewhere (don't remember) which I frequently use.
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| 11:27 | "You know, most people don't ask me to do my boring office job work for them, during off-work hours, for free. In return, I don't ask them to paint my house, do my laundry and do my grocery shopping."
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| 11:28 | <andygraybeal_> omg, now i'm headed to work :)
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| 11:28 | <muppis> :D
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| 11:28 | <andygraybeal_> stupid cat
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| 11:29 | <junkY_San> alkisg, okay it really was no syntax problem. but i missed to install ltspfs in the chroot :/
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| 11:30 | <alkisg> junkY_San: I don't think that's needed in chroots, only ltspfsd is
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| 11:30 | But if it works for you, whatever :D
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| 11:30 | <junkY_San> alkisg, it's needed for automounting usb devices into /media/root/xxxx
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| 11:31 | <junkY_San> on the clientside
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| 11:31 | it's not needed for localdev and ldm sessions though, just for rdesktop as it seems
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| 11:32 | <alkisg> Normally, for rdesktop, you shouldn't even need ltspfsd
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| 11:32 | <junkY_San> Gadi explained this once, i found it in a the logs ;)
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| 11:33 | <alkisg> You should be able to let the stick automount normally via udev, and share your whole /media dir
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| 11:33 | <junkY_San> yes that would be possible too
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| 11:33 | but if ltspfs somehow does this for me, why shouldn't i use it
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| 11:34 | <alkisg> To avoid the roundtrips, but well, it's a solution, if you got it to work
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| 11:35 | <junkY_San> 13:54 <Gadi> we thought it suitable to use ltspfs also to automount locally on the client for non-Linux sessions
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| 11:35 | <alkisg> junkY_San: if you run `ps -ef | grep udisks`, do you see the udisks deamon running?
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| 11:36 | Maybe the LTSP RC_WHITELIST breaks that, and that's why it doesn't automount without ltspfsd
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| 11:36 | <junkY_San> no
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| 11:36 | don't see udisks
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| 11:36 | <alkisg> That's probably the problem then
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| 11:36 | <junkY_San> i'm getting some lunch now, brb
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| 11:37 | <alkisg> Well anyone, the way you did it now it'll also work if you use LDM alongside rdesktop, in a different screen
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| 11:37 | <alkisg> No harm done
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| 12:10 | <junkY_San> alkisg, doesn't work properly. as soon as i want to write on that usb drive within the rdesktop session it get's unavailable
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| 12:11 | <alkisg> Gadi is your man. I'd do it without ltspfs :)
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| 12:13 | <junkY_San> what do i need to try it without ltspfs? just udisks?
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| 12:15 | <alkisg> Not sure, it would need some digging into
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| 12:15 | But normally usb sticks should be autodetected, no?
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| 12:16 | <junkY_San> i think so yes
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| 12:16 | <alkisg> Or at least to write a simple udev rule to mount them
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| 12:16 | <junkY_San> but i'm afraid that the result would be the same, since all ltspfs and udev do is mount the stick somewhere. and rdesktop takes this path and forwards it to the windows host
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| 12:23 | <alkisg> junkY_San: no
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| 12:23 | Try to mount it manually before exporting it with rdesktop
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| 12:23 | It'll be a local filesystem then, not an ltspfs one
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| 12:24 | ltspfs is a fuse filesystem, maybe rdesktop doesn't like that
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| 12:25 | <junkY_San> same result as with the ltspfs one
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| 12:52 | <junkY_San> this must be a rdesktop bug
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| 12:52 | <alkisg> Try xfreerdp then
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| 12:53 | Search the logs for xfreerdp, you can find some notes there
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| 12:53 | <gypsymauro> alkisg: I've not a launchpad user, doh.. why everytime I've to fill a bug for software I've to register somewhere? :) I hate this thing
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| 12:54 | <alkisg> :)
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| 12:54 | Bugtrackers.. they should use openid :P
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| 12:59 | <junkY_San> any easy way to get xfreerdp in ubuntu 10.04.3?
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| 13:04 | <alkisg> junkY_San: I have a ppa for it
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| 13:05 | <junkY_San> would you give me the address?
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| 13:05 | <alkisg> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ts.sch.gr, but:
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| 13:05 | I also have updated ltsp version et
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| 13:05 | etc
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| 13:06 | They're used in about 250 greek schools so they're stable
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| 13:06 | Hmmm but you do need a newer ltsp that has the xfreerdp screen script
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| 13:06 | <alkisg> So better just trust the ppa and update from it, yeah
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| 13:06 | OK, do these in your chroot:
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| 13:06 | sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386
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| 13:07 | apt-get install python-software-properties
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| 13:07 | add-apt-repository ppa:ts.sch.gr
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| 13:07 | apt-get update
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| 13:07 | apt-get dist-upgrade
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| 13:08 | apt-get install freerdp-x11
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| 13:08 | exit; ltsp-update-image
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| 13:08 | <alkisg> And put SCREEN_07=xfreerdp <params> in your lts.conf
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| 13:08 | <junkY_San> and you think this is absolutely safe?
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| 13:09 | <alkisg> I do think so, because we're using it in all greek schools that use ltsp, but of course no guarantees
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| 13:09 | You'll just get a newer ltsp that has the xfreerdp screen script + some fixes
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| 13:09 | Otherwise, visit the above url and install all the xfreerdp dependencies manually
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| 13:12 | That ppa is very conservative; we have another one for -proposed updates, it shouldn't ever have broken stuff
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| 13:12 | <junkY_San> i understand. there are no major changes in config files or something?
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| 13:12 | <alkisg> No
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| 13:12 | We're not using the update LDM just for that reason, for no config file updates
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| 13:13 | <junkY_San> hope it really fixes my bug ;)
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| 13:14 | <alkisg> Here's your man :)
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| 13:17 | <junkY_San> damn, the menu file got overwritten ;)
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| 13:17 | <alkisg> What menu file?
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| 13:17 | <junkY_San> usr/share/ltsp/screen.d/menu
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| 13:17 | <alkisg> Ah, pxelinux.cfg?
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| 13:18 | You've manually modified it?
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| 13:18 | <junkY_San> yes
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| 13:18 | <alkisg> yeah then it would break on updates
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| 13:18 | <junkY_San> i backuped the old chroot, so no problem
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| 13:22 | <junkY_San> alkisg, does the xfreerdp plugin take care of the -r disk parameter or do i have to manually rewrite them
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| 13:22 | <alkisg> You need different parameters
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| 13:23 | search for the xfreerdp manpage for details
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| 13:23 | It's not exactly compatible with rdesktop, wrt command line parameters
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| 13:25 | <junkY_San> thanks, i'll give it a try
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| 13:28 | <junkY_San> alkisg, how many clients are there working concurrently on one ldm server?
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| 13:28 | <pmatulis> can i use a webcam on a thin client? do i need to run some software locally?
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| 13:28 | <junkY_San> alkisg, sorry, in your projects of course ;)
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| 13:29 | <alkisg> junkY_San: you mean how many clients for each ltsp server? Greek schools usually have 12 pc in each lab, plus a server.
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| 13:32 | <junkY_San> have you ever noticed any kind of lagging?
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| 13:33 | <alkisg> With LDM_DIRECTX and no flow control problems, no
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| 13:33 | <Hyperbyte> junkY_San, I've seen people in here claiming to have over 50 clients on one LTSP server
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| 13:44 | <junkY_San> using "xfreerdp --plugin rdpdr --data disk:USB:/media/root -f -- HOSTNAME" it doesn't display USB on the windows session
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| 13:45 | <alkisg> Is there such a directory? Try with another folder to make sure that the xfreerdp part is working
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| 13:46 | <junkY_San> the directory exists
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| 13:46 | <alkisg> E.g. with /bin
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| 13:46 | <junkY_San> i'm sure
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| 13:47 | <alkisg> There's also an #freerdp channel here, in case your command line isn't appropriate
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| 13:47 | <junkY_San> thanks
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| 13:51 | <pmatulis> hi everybody, i'm having a problem with a thin client interacting with my dhcp server. it's the same problem as described by someone else:
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| 13:51 | http://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=30818.0;prev_next=next
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| 13:53 | <alkisg> distro/version?
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| 13:53 | <pmatulis> 'buntu 11.04
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| 13:54 | <alkisg> Not the problem I had in mind then, nm
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| 14:00 | <junkY_San> when i use ps to look at the xfreerdp command, i can see that the ":" in the command line got replaced by spaces
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| 14:03 | <alkisg> Can you paste your exact related lts.conf lines? Replacing the server if you prefer...
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| 14:05 | <junkY_San> http://pastebin.com/cswgB8QD
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| 14:06 | <alkisg> Ah, it might be a problem with the menu script then
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| 14:07 | <junkY_San> the xinit command seems right
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| 14:07 | <alkisg> Can you try directly with an xfreerdp screen?
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| 14:07 | <junkY_San> but the xfreerdp is def. wrong
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| 14:07 | looking at "ps aux | grep xfree"
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| 14:08 | okay
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| 14:09 | adding SCREEN_06 ="xfreerdp --plugin rdpdr --data disk:test:/media/root -- -u '' -f barney" to lts.conf
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| 14:09 | <alkisg> Yup
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| 14:10 | You can probably put the other params in front of --plugin, to avoid the -- part
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| 14:10 | <junkY_San> same thing. not :
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| 14:10 | <alkisg> That -- part misleads xinit if not passed around quotes from the scripts
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| 14:11 | <junkY_San> it's the way i found it on the freerdp page
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| 14:12 | <junkY_San> but i'll try it without the -- and put the arguments to the front
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| 14:13 | the command line is correct, but i only get a cursor, and no rdp connection ;/
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| 14:14 | SCREEN_06 ="xfreerdp -u '' -f --plugin rdpdr --data disk:test:/media/root barney"
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| 14:14 | <alkisg> -- barney
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| 14:17 | It surely sounds like some script bug though
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| 14:18 | <junkY_San> this is strange
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| 14:18 | the command line looks good now
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| 14:18 | <alkisg> That's still without the menu script, right?
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| 14:18 | <junkY_San> yes
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| 14:18 | vt6
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| 14:18 | <alkisg> Do you see xinitrc running?
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| 14:18 | <junkY_San> yes, it's working except no visible mapping..
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| 14:19 | fullscreen is also working
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| 14:19 | seems like --plugin doesn't work
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| 14:20 | <alkisg> Ah, there's a separate package for them isn't there?
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| 14:20 | Did you install it?
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| 14:20 | * alkisg forgot about it :D | |
| 14:20 | <alkisg> Hmmm no
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| 14:21 | <junkY_San> i had that idea too, but didn't find anything
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| 14:21 | <alkisg> libfreerdp-plugins-standard_0.8.2-2build1_i386.deb (63.7 KiB)
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| 14:21 | <junkY_San> ah, yippieh
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| 14:21 | let's see
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| 14:22 | at least we can tell then if there's a bug in the menu script
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| 14:22 | <alkisg> freerdp recommends them, but unfortunately ubuntu chroots have recommends: turned off
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| 14:23 | Recommends: libfreerdp-plugins-standard
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| 14:24 | <junkY_San> great, it works
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| 14:24 | <alkisg> Cool
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| 14:24 | <junkY_San> also the menu works
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| 14:24 | so no bug
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| 14:24 | <alkisg> It'd be strange for : to disappear
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| 14:25 | <junkY_San> ps aux | grep .. still tells me they're missing
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| 14:25 | but who cares
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| 14:26 | on the other hand how can it work then
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| 14:28 | <alkisg> So it was worth the trouble :)
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| 14:29 | <junkY_San> yep :) thanks again
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| 14:29 | <alkisg> You're welcome. Btw now reboot and shutdown also works from the ldm menu ;)
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| 14:29 | Ah no you didn't put the ppa in the server, only in the chroot
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| 14:29 | Ignore that
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| 14:30 | *from the gnome-session menu, I meant, but anyway
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| 14:46 | <Hyperbyte> nogagplz, that's what she said.
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| 14:46 | ...
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| 14:46 | Sorry, that one's too easy. :/ I just couldn't resist.
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| 14:48 | <nogagplz> she's not into jokes then I guess? gag here is joke ._.
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| 14:52 | <Hyperbyte> nogagplz, no worries. :P
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| 15:20 | <junkY_San> alkisg, have you ever used a custom kernel with ltsp?
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| 15:23 | <alkisg> Nope
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| 15:23 | <junkY_San> i have a problem with a older hardware not booting ltsp. it hangs during the initramfs
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| 15:24 | <alkisg> Message?
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| 15:24 | <junkY_San> i get an error every 60second that the cpu hangs
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| 15:24 | i think it's graphic related since it doesn't switch the resolution
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| 15:25 | "BUG: soft lockup - CPU#0 stuck for 61s!"
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| 15:25 | i can see that the NIC got an ip and nbd mounted
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| 15:26 | <alkisg> Put SCREEN_02=shell, and remove quiet splash
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| 15:27 | If it still hangs, it's not graphics related
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| 15:27 | <junkY_San> it doesn't come that far
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| 15:27 | <alkisg> Also try putting nomodeset
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| 15:27 | <alkisg> That disables KMS
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| 15:27 | <junkY_San> ah ok, where do i have to put that?
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| 15:27 | <alkisg> In pxelinux.cfg/default, in the kernel parameters
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| 15:27 | <junkY_San> ok so i could also append it manually one time
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| 15:28 | <alkisg> Yup
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| 15:28 | Manually? You have a pxe menu?
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| 15:28 | <junkY_San> bingo
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| 15:28 | it works now
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| 15:28 | <alkisg> Cool. Which graphics card was that?
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| 15:28 | <junkY_San> alkisg, yes, i have added an option to boot local hd
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| 15:28 | <alkisg> lspci -nn -k | grep -A 2 VGA
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| 15:29 | It's not common, so /me would like to note down the model
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| 15:29 | <junkY_San> of course
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| 15:29 | wait a minute
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| 15:29 | <alkisg> You can then create a pxelinux.cfg/01-mac-address file so that only this client gets that option, if you prefer other clients to use KMS
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| 15:31 | <junkY_San> Radeon 9200 Pro
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| 15:31 | <alkisg> Is it possible to paste the whole line, along with the pci id?
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| 15:31 | Some times even different revisions have different behavior
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| 15:31 | <junkY_San> yes ok, will be a bit more complicated ;)
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| 15:32 | <alkisg> Oh, nm then, just the pci id
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| 15:33 | <junkY_San> 1002:5960
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| 15:33 | <alkisg> Thanks :)
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| 15:34 | <junkY_San> i'm not too familar with ubuntu. is there hardware-detection during initramfs ?
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| 15:34 | <alkisg> Most linux distros use udev to detect hardware, yes
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| 15:35 | <junkY_San> because i had to manually add the module 'atl1c' for one NIC
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| 15:35 | may be i should try radeonfb manual loading
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| 15:37 | <alkisg> !adding-modules
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| 15:37 | <ltsp> alkisg: adding-modules: If your clients won't boot with messages like 'eth0: link not ready', maybe you're missing an initramfs-module: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/AddingModules
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| 15:37 | <alkisg> junkY_San: see the above link for an explanation about atl1c
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| 15:43 | <junkY_San> when i use this the newer hardware also panics at boot
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| 15:43 | ah yes, because atl1c is not loaded
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| 15:44 | so nbd cannot be mounted
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| 15:44 | the script simply doesn't work for me
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| 15:44 | <alkisg> Did you run ltsp-update-kernels?
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| 15:45 | <junkY_San> yep
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| 15:45 | <alkisg> Did you remove the extra space at the start of the shebang line of the script?
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| 15:45 | <junkY_San> nope ;/
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| 15:45 | <alkisg> junkY_San: read the page better :P :D
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| 15:46 | <junkY_San> ah :/ sorry
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| 15:53 | <junkY_San> that GPU is really crap
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| 16:10 | <junkY_San> i think i'll just nomodeset for all clients since KMS is not really a benefit
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| 18:38 | <_UsUrPeR_> hey all. having trouble getting sound working in 11.04 on clients
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| 18:39 | this is from a default installation
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| 18:39 | and it's running on the server
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| 18:39 | has anybody had any experience with this?
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| 18:39 | I don't remember having sound issues last time I tested this out
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| 19:51 | <Hyperbyte> _UsUrPeR_, you're gonna have to be a bit more detailed. =)
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| 20:36 | <alkisg> Previously the description of sch-scripts (an italc-like utility) was "A classroom administration tool". Now that it won't be only focused on classrooms anymore, what's an appropriate description?
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| 20:36 | Panoptes: a computer lab administration and monitoring tool?
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| 20:39 | <Gadi> does it only work with ltsp clients?
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| 20:39 | <alkisg> No
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| 20:39 | It autodetects ltsp clients, but works on standalone installations too
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| 20:39 | <Gadi> why not simply: a remote computer administration and monitoring tool
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| 20:40 | or some such
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| 20:40 | <alkisg> Remote gives me the feeling of a single computer far away
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| 20:40 | While it's mostly for local LAN, and multiple clients
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| 20:41 | <Gadi> ah
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| 20:41 | then go with your original
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| 20:41 | but, you should call it CLAM
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| 20:41 | :)
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| 20:42 | <alkisg> E.g. it has screen broadcasting, sharing, monitoring and locking, executing commands on the clients, sending messages, and lots more
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| 20:42 | <Gadi> and write an Oreilly book
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| 20:42 | <alkisg> CLAM? Classroom Administration Tool? :D
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| 20:42 | <Gadi> Computer Lab Admin and Monitoring
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| 20:42 | <alkisg> That would be `cat` :P
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| 20:42 | <Hyperbyte> alkisg, Clam! The fish
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| 20:43 | Or fish thingy... lives in oyster.
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| 20:43 | Perfect.
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| 20:43 | <alkisg> Gadi, where were you when we were looking for a name? :D
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| 20:43 | <Hyperbyte> Just forget about the abbreviation alltogether. The future is Clam.
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| 20:43 | <Gadi> hehe
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| 20:43 | <Hyperbyte> Clam, for 'client administration', right?
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| 20:43 | <Gadi> CLAM: Computer Lab Admin and Monitoring
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| 20:44 | <Hyperbyte> See, how versatile Clam is!
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| 20:44 | <alkisg> Unfortunately we'll have a hard time making a good rank in google for clam :D
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| 20:44 | <Hyperbyte> alkisg, yeah, and it has a weird smell too. :P
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| 20:44 | <alkisg> Haha
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| 20:44 | panoptes == all-seeing, let's leave it at that
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| 20:45 | <Hyperbyte> Panoptes!
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| 20:45 | <Hyperbyte> That...
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| 20:45 | ....
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| 20:45 | * Hyperbyte coughs | |
| 20:45 | <Hyperbyte> Movie time!
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| 20:46 | <alkisg> Hyperbyte: what? it sucks too much? :D
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| 20:46 | <Hyperbyte> To be honest
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| 20:46 | It sounds a bit like... I don't know
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| 20:46 | Something you find the deepest trenches of the ocean
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| 20:46 | <alkisg> We had worse ideas too... you don't want to hear them
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| 20:46 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argus_Panoptes
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| 20:46 | <Hyperbyte> "Ah, this is where the great beast Panoptes rules the water."
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| 20:46 | I dunno
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| 20:47 | Well duh
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| 20:47 | Why not name it Argus?
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| 20:47 | <alkisg> It's already taken
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| 20:47 | <Hyperbyte> :(
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| 20:47 | <alkisg> $ argus
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| 20:47 | The program 'argus' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
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| 20:47 | sudo apt-get install argus-server
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| 20:47 | <Hyperbyte> :(
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| 20:47 | apt-get forget argus-server?
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| 20:48 | <alkisg> Hehe
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| 20:48 | <Hyperbyte> Seriously though
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| 20:48 | Panoptes is horrible.
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| 20:48 | Sorry
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| 20:51 | <alkisg> Meh, I don't like it very much either, but I'm not willing to burn more brain cells about a name :)
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| 21:02 | <Gadi> well, /me votes for clam
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| 21:02 | then, you can open a "clam shell" on every computer
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| 21:02 | :)
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| 21:03 | when you complete a process on all machines, you can be "clam baked"
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| 21:04 | <alkisg> There's also clam antivirus though
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| 21:09 | <Gadi> so, call yours: clam-clam
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| 21:09 | now, its fun to say!
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| 21:09 | :)
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| 21:09 | and twice as good
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| 21:11 | ciao ciao
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| 21:11 | <alkisg> ty ty :)
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