IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 10 April 2013 (all times are UTC)
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| 05:30 | <Enslaver> howdy all
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| 05:43 | * alkisg waves | |
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| 08:17 | <vaab> Just for the logs and curious: http://www.mail-archive.com/ltsp-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net/msg40681.html allowed me to use LDM_SESSION instead of LDM_XSESSION so to get my server's Xsession scripts being executed. I was using LDM_XSESSION only because LDM_SESSION was poorly documented and didn't work as expected (did same mistake than the guy in the thread of the mailing list link I give.) Anyway, I now have ibus working on LTSP on Ubunt
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| 08:17 | u 12.04 out of the box. Many Thanks for the community on mailing list and here for the kind help and support.
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| 11:21 | <jmilot> Hi
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| 11:21 | i search some informations for epoptes and how to use group
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| 11:38 | <Hyperbyte> And apparently he's on the clock.
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| 19:06 | <ltspuser_14> Helo!
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| 19:07 | Please, i need help!
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| 19:09 | I need to install a multifunction hp scanner to function in a client ltsp. This is possible. I've read the documentation and hundreds of forums. The documentation says yes (adding lines in lts.conf SCANNER = true), but this did not work for me because the scanimage does not detect the scanner. Thank you!
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| 19:22 | <Enslaver> ltspuser: did you get the hp drivers from hp?
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| 20:27 | <gbaman> alkisg, you any idea why when running this command on debian, i get it complaining about unrecognised option --debootstrap-keyring?
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| 20:27 | ltsp-build-client --dist wheezy --arch armhf --debootstrap-keyring $HOME/raspbian.public.key.gpg --mirror http://archive.raspbian.org/raspbian --security-mirror none --kernel-packages linux-image-3.2.0-4-rpi
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| 20:27 | it is the one vagrantc used on his install of debian (wheezy)
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| 20:28 | <gbaman> or do that
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| 20:43 | <lykwydchykyn> Did nbdswapd configuration change between Ubuntu 10.04 and 12.04?
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| 20:43 | My clients are not getting a swap file after upgrade
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| 20:44 | Some of them give an error on boot like "Exported device is too big for me"
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| 22:16 | <gbaman> vagrantc, sorry to bug you again (sure you really hate me now) installed wheezy, ran updates etc, installed ltsp and tried your guide again, the debootstrap option was again unrecognised
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| 22:16 | any ideas?
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| 22:17 | <vagrantc> ah!
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| 22:17 | yes, there's a bug in wheezy's ltsp.
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| 22:18 | <gbaman> :|
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| 22:18 | now he tells me...
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| 22:18 | <vagrantc> the simple but insecurity workaround should be to use --accept-unsigned-packages
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| 22:18 | <gbaman> you should fix the bug :)
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| 22:19 | <vagrantc> it's too late in the release cycle to fix :(
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| 22:19 | might be able to fix it in the first point release.
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| 22:19 | <gbaman> cant you just update the package?
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| 22:19 | <vagrantc> no, we're frozen, and i don't think it meets the criteria for a freeze exception.
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| 22:20 | <gbaman> wait, so debian software does not get updates until each point release?
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| 22:20 | * gbaman is new to debian release model | |
| 22:22 | <gbaman> so if i type apt-get upgrade there wont be any software updates till the next . release?
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| 22:28 | <vagrantc> security updates, yes. but other updates, no.
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| 22:28 | and point release updates are minimal too
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| 22:28 | major releases happen approximately every 2 years
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| 22:29 | <gbaman> anyways, thats a bit off topic, where would i add the accpet unsigned packages bit?
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| 22:29 | <vagrantc> there's a better workaround, too...
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| 22:29 | <gbaman> ooo
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| 22:29 | <vagrantc> but you: ltsp-build-client --accept-unsigned-packages ...
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| 22:30 | but really, you shouldn't download random untrusted software...
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| 22:30 | gbaman: ah, this is related to a FIXME in my howto.
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| 22:30 | <gbaman> so put apt-get install in front of that?
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| 22:30 | <vagrantc> gbaman: # FIXME tweak 010-debootstrap plugin to respect debootstrap-keyring commandline option
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| 22:30 | <gbaman> i noticed
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| 22:31 | <vagrantc> no apt-get ...
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| 22:31 | <gbaman> you should add what you just told me
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| 22:31 | ah, ok
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| 22:31 | <vagrantc> but i don't want to propegate bad advice
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| 22:31 | i'd rather take the time to give good advice
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| 22:31 | but, on my own time
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| 22:32 | <gbaman> but it does not work without it :)
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| 22:32 | <vagrantc> that's why there's a FIXME
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| 22:32 | <gbaman> btw, why are we not using nbd?
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| 22:33 | <vagrantc> because it's stable and reliable, and easier to make changes with
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| 22:34 | <gbaman> but when it is finished, is it simple to switch?
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| 22:35 | <vagrantc> relatively simple
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| 22:35 | <gbaman> and should make it faster booting on the pi?
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| 22:37 | <vagrantc> possible
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| 22:39 | <gbaman> so the accept unsigned packages is meant to be run on its own or with the pi client build?
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| 22:40 | *on its own as with ltsp build
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| 22:40 | <vagrantc> it is a commandline option to ltsp-build-client
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| 22:40 | just like all the other commandline options for ltsp-build-client
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| 22:40 | start experimenting
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| 22:41 | <gbaman> but do i run it as itself with ltsp-build-client or add it on to the already massive pi builder
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| 22:41 | as the pi builder one it didnt fix it
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| 22:41 | <vagrantc> gbaman: so, when you run across a FIXME in that document, it means the next steps are likely to fail until you resolve the FIXME
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| 22:42 | <gbaman> :)
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| 22:43 | so i end up asking you :)
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| 22:43 | then i write your answer down
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| 22:43 | and end up making my own version of your guide
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| 22:43 | <vagrantc> well, lunch break over...
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| 22:43 | * vagrantc waves | |
| 22:43 | <gbaman> noooo
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| 22:44 | well, thanks vagrantc as normal
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| 22:45 | and it didnt work
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| 22:46 | will just run it on its own
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| 22:48 | <vagrantc> gbaman: the easiest way is to create a configuration file with DEBOOTSTRAP_KEYRING=/path/to/your/raspbian.keyring.gpg
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| 22:49 | i.e. dump it in /etc/ltsp/ltsp-raspbian.conf
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| 22:49 | and then ltsp-build-client <all the other options> --config /etc/ltsp/ltsp-raspbian.conf
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| 22:49 | gbaman: ^^
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| 22:50 | that's probably good enough to put in there.
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| 22:50 | <vagrantc> doh.
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| 23:00 | <vagrantc> gbaman: updated the howto with hopefully reasonable instructions
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| 23:08 | <gbaman> bingo
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| 23:09 | it seems to now be happy
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| 23:09 | famous last words
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| 23:10 | it seems to be happy, thanks vagrantc
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| 23:12 | i will leave that to hum away and will check it in the morning. i am quite happy as i just discovered gnu screen :)
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