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| 12:29 | <jason> hello hello
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| 12:29 | <Guest10800> How's everyone doing?
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| 12:30 | I'm curious if anybody can shed some light on a section of LTSP I have yet to use.... is it possible to utilize PowerPC clients?
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| 12:30 | <alkisg> Sure
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| 12:30 | <Guest10800> We just have an old library of them that are struggling to survive. Before tossing them I toyed with the idea of an LTSP setup so I wanted to do a little digging and see what I could find on the subject.
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| 12:30 | <alkisg> Come back in 12 hours to talk with vagrantc :)
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| 12:30 | or in less than that
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| 12:30 | <Guest10800> Oh nice - he utilizes PPC clients?
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| 12:31 | <alkisg> I think he has some experience in that, I heard him say yesterday that he didn't get a chance to answer you
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| 12:31 | <Guest10800> I think what I'm also semi-concerned about is I think it'd be nice to have ONE LTSP box in that entire building... I suppose it's not possible to have 2 labs (1 Dell 1 PPC) run off of the same server?
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| 12:31 | <alkisg> It is possible
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| 12:31 | How many clients?
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| 12:32 | <Guest10800> Well, right now we're looking at about 30 PPC clients with a handful of Dell boxes that might be scattered in a few classrooms.
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| 12:32 | <alkisg> With a good server you should be ok
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| 12:32 | <Guest10800> We have the server and everything already.
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| 12:33 | Due to virtualizing we have quite a few physical ones left over.
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| 12:33 | But anyway, I know PPC support hasn't been a strong point in Linux so I wasn't sure if LTSP would yield anything different.
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| 12:34 | <Hyperbyte> What server hardware?
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| 12:34 | <Guest10800> Man I'm not sure offhand. I actually just started this job this week. I just remember seeing a bunch of physical servers with Xeon tags on them in the closet.
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| 12:35 | They just decided to yank this lab of old PPC systems and dig up some old Dells to put in for LTSP but I got to wondering, why can't we just keep the old eMacs (PPC) and LTSP them??
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| 12:36 | But hey if it's possible, that's great. I suppose the only major difference would be the build-image command? I used to use i386. I can only imagine it would be ppc instead.
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| 12:37 | <alkisg> Not exactly
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| 12:37 | You'd need to build the chroot in a powerpc, and transfer it
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| 12:37 | You can't use "chroot <a-root-with-incompatible-arch>'
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| 12:37 | <Guest10800> so I can't build the image with Ubuntu/LTSP installed on a Dell server?
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| 12:38 | or am I misunderstanding...
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| 12:38 | <alkisg> Yes, you cannot build it on the dell server
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| 12:38 | You can put it on the dell server *after* you build it
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| 12:38 | <Guest10800> I see, I see.
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| 12:38 | <alkisg> But for more, ask vagrantc in a few hours
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| 12:38 | I haven't done any cross-arch builds
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| 12:38 | <Guest10800> So I need a local installation on the eMac itself
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| 12:38 | to get the ball rolling
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| 12:39 | <alkisg> Something like that, I imagine
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| 12:39 | <Guest10800> Man I hope we have a Mac system with enough power :P
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| 12:39 | Some of these things are *old*. In fact I don't even know how great they'll be as clients.
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| 12:41 | Once I transfer it, is there anything special to do? Or is it just a matter of dropping it in place?
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| 12:42 | <alkisg> An ltsp-update-kernels should suffice, you don't need much stuff after that
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| 12:42 | How much RAM do they have?
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| 12:42 | <Guest10800> sweet.
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| 12:42 | To be honest I'm not positive. But if we need more RAM I think we could swing it.
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| 12:42 | I think 256 for a lot of them...
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| 12:42 | <alkisg> 256 should be fine
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| 12:42 | <Guest10800> However I might be wrong. Some of them can't even handle 10.5 OSX
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| 12:43 | <Guest10800> If PPC works on LTSP we can make it fly. The PPC/LTSP part would have been the more dificult part.
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| 12:43 | <alkisg> For example, PC's with 128 MB RAM can be pretty good ltsp clients, while they cannot run e..g ubuntu locally
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| 12:43 | <Guest10800> nice, nice
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| 12:43 | I'll take this down in my notes here quick.
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| 12:43 | appreciate your time alkisg
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| 12:44 | <alkisg> np, but I'm mostly guessing here, you need to ask someone that has actually done it :)
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| 12:44 | <Guest10800> I understand. You're at least guiding me down the right avenue!
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| 12:44 | Thanks again bro.
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| 12:44 | Time to hit the road and get some other work done.
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| 12:44 | Take it easy.
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| 12:46 | <kalib> Hi people. I just got this error trying to boot a thinclient on my ltsp server. "Error changing net interface name eth0 to eth3: device or resource busy
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| 12:46 | Anyone has any idea or tip?
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| 12:48 | <alkisg> cat /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
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| 12:50 | <kalib> a second..
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| 12:51 | alkisg, http://pastebin.com/vG5jJ2GS
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| 12:51 | <alkisg> You shouldn't have eth* modules there
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| 12:52 | *entries
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| 12:52 | <kalib> thanks..
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| 12:52 | <alkisg> How did you manage to get entries for eth0, eth1 and eth2?
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| 12:52 | Did you try booting via nfs rw?
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| 12:56 | <kalib> not yet.. let me try
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| 12:58 | <alkisg> kalib: I didn't mean that you should try
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| 12:58 | I was just asking how did you manage to get such entries there
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| 12:58 | <kalib> alkisg, ok..
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| 12:58 | let me check something
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| 12:58 | <alkisg> You must have done some weird thing to get that
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| 12:59 | <kalib> probably.
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| 12:59 | but thanks for the tips. ;]
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| 13:23 | <mgariepy> hello everyone
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| 14:02 | <Hyperbyte> Heellllloooo mgariepy!
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| 16:41 | <damormino> What is the correct way to disable DHCP on an LTSP server? (I want to do some testing on an existing network.)
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| 16:43 | <alkisg> distro/version?
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| 16:43 | <damormino> Ubuntu 11.10 (beta) with 5.2.x ltsp.
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| 16:44 | <alkisg> To temporarily stop dhcp, you can run: sudo stop ics-dhcp-server (I may have a typo there, use tab for autocomplete)
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| 16:44 | isc
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| 16:50 | <damormino> alkisg: Thank you. I will try this.
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| 17:02 | <damormino> alkisg: They must have renamed isc-dhcp-server in Oneiric, but your answer led me to do: sudo /etc/rc3.d/S20isc-dhcp-server stop which worked.
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| 17:11 | <mgariepy> damormino, # service isc-dhcp-server stop
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| 17:40 | <pmatulis> can i use a webcam on a thin client?
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| 18:14 | <Gadi> pmatulis: as in "ltsp-localapps cheese" ?
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| 18:15 | <pmatulis> Gadi: dunno, will that work?
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| 18:15 | <Gadi> sure
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| 18:16 | just be sure the user is in whatever group s/he has to be in
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| 18:16 | like the "video" group
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| 18:16 | or whatever
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| 18:17 | <pmatulis> Gadi: ty, will try
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| 20:37 | <monteslu> ok, taking the plunge... again
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| 20:37 | kids out early for friday, and I'm gonna go from an ancient fedora to warren's build of k12linux for centos6
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| 20:37 | chrome!
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