00:02 | <markit> ok, found PXELINUX_DEFAULT=menu option in chroot /etc/ltsp/update-kernels.conf mentioned in a chat log, tested and works! (to make the change available, outside chroot, do also ltsp-chroot --arch=i386 /usr/share/ltsp/update-kernels ; ltsp-update-kernels)
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11:04 | <lliurex> hi
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16:10 | <BuddyButterfly> hey
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16:10 | alkisg: ltsp runs so smooth now! perfect!
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16:11 | and patch helped. Clients boot up stable....
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16:33 | <alkisg> BuddyButterfly: by patch, you mean the nbd-client dpkg-divert command?
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16:34 | <BuddyButterfly> alkisg: yep, that one helped!
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16:34 | better to say workaround....
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16:34 | <alkisg> Cool, nice to hear
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16:35 | <BuddyButterfly> Last thing I am working on is to run separate ssh session on clients.....
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16:35 | <alkisg> Meaning?
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16:35 | <BuddyButterfly> cause I want to use the clients as "stand alone" clients and be able to connect to it via x2go.
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16:35 | <alkisg> And you don't want epoptes, right?
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16:35 | <BuddyButterfly> I want to "misuse" ltsp as central system management for the clients.
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16:36 | so only 1 system to maintain, configure and install software....
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16:36 | <alkisg> You understand that you won't be able to ssh to the clients except as root, because there are no users to the clients?
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16:36 | I.e. you will only be able to use x2go as root
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16:37 | <BuddyButterfly> alkisg: didn't thinkg about it yet, so I guess I do not understand it yet.
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16:37 | okey....
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16:37 | <alkisg> What is the use case for x2go to the clients instead of to the server?
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16:37 | <BuddyButterfly> that is a valid point.
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16:37 | <alkisg> So that you run the programs on the clients to use their cpu/ram?
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16:38 | <BuddyButterfly> yep, resource separation.
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16:38 | <alkisg> And you'll be using x2go from some remote location,not from lan, right?
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16:38 | <BuddyButterfly> you know, my ltsp is virtual.
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16:38 | both, remote vpn site and local lan.
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16:39 | <alkisg> Your ltsp clients are virtual/
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16:39 | ?
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16:39 | <BuddyButterfly> alkisg: not all ;-)
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16:39 | mixed....
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16:39 | <alkisg> Eh, you do know that doesn't make much sense, right? :)
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16:39 | Having what, fat clients booting as VMs on the same server?
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16:40 | Why not use some resource separation tool instead, like lxc or something?
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16:40 | <BuddyButterfly> alkisg: for this I do only have 4 VMs...
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16:40 | remember that they are location independent and can move from one virtual to another.
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16:41 | <alkisg> I can't see the point in this... why not x2go to the server itself then/
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16:41 | ?
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16:41 | <BuddyButterfly> alkisg: can not distribute VMs then. has to run on that server.
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16:41 | <alkisg> But VMs run on the server...
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16:41 | <BuddyButterfly> if there is a heavier load needed and I would like to move the vm to another pc, I can not.
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16:42 | <alkisg> You can just boot a client at that point
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16:42 | <BuddyButterfly> have you ever used kvm and moved VMs around from one hardware to the other?
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16:42 | <alkisg> No need for VM
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16:42 | Sure, kvm, virtualbox etc
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16:42 | But linux can be moved too, it doesn't have need of a VM
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16:42 | It's not windows, it doesn't care about the underlying hardware
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16:43 | Anyways, whatever suits you :)
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16:43 | bbiab!
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16:44 | <BuddyButterfly> alkisg: yeah, have to think a bit about it.
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20:43 | <gumby> hi. Is LTSP still a viable product?
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20:52 | <gehidore> yes
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22:15 | <BuddyButterfly> what questions....
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22:16 | more like polititians here..... what is the status? .... we are making progress, we are on a good way....
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22:17 | and so forth....
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22:17 | ... is your solution a good solution? yes, it is a good solution....
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22:17 | lol
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