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Channel log from 18 February 2016 (all times are UTC)
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| 10:57 | <alkisg> !precise
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| 10:57 | <ltsp> I do not know about 'precise', but I do know about these similar topics: 'precise-i386'
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| 10:57 | <alkisg> !precise-i386
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| 10:57 | <ltsp> precise-i386: Ubuntu 12.04 compressed btrfs chroot to boot really old clients (non-pae, <80MB RAM): http://ts.sch.gr/repo/livecd/images/precise-i386.img. Screenshot: http://ts.sch.gr/repo/livecd/images/precise-i386.png
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| 16:47 | <vagrantc> hrm. wiki.ltsp.org seems down...
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| 16:47 | <maldridge> I concur, it appears down from here as well
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| 16:56 | <alkisg> ...should I put a cron job to reboot it at every midnight? :D
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| 16:57 | * maldridge has done that to deal with a buggy print server | |
| 16:58 | <alkisg> 27 days uptime, yup, time for reboot..
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| 17:00 | <alkisg> OK, server+apache is up again
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| 17:06 | <maldridge> it has to reboot to get a functional webserver? what's it running, windows nt?
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| 17:11 | <vagrantc> it should be running LTSP
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| 17:12 | <alkisg> No, restarting apache is enough, but I think it's good to reboot it after a month of uptime, there are always memory leaks in programs etc
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| 17:12 | It's running ubuntu 10.04
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| 17:12 | <maldridge> I could see that
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| 17:13 | * vagrantc blinks | |
| 17:17 | <alkisg> sbalneav: ...should I try to update it before 12.04 gets EOLed and we don't have an upgrade path at all? :)
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| 17:17 | 10.04 => 12.04 => 14.04 should be a good update for now...
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| 17:18 | <vagrantc> what could possibly go wrong
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| 17:18 | <alkisg> Hmm /boot is empty though, I'm guessing the hosting company is using something like lxc, so better not just upgrade it...
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| 17:18 | At least not without a VM snapshot (or whatever else they use)
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| 17:19 | $ uname -a
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| 17:19 | Linux server 2.6.32-042stab108.5 #1 SMP Wed Jun 17 20:20:17 MSK 2015 x86_64 GNU/Linux
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| 17:19 | 2.6.32 on 2015, fun...
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| 17:20 | $ ls -ld /lib/$(uname -r)
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| 17:20 | ls: cannot access /lib/2.6.32-042stab108.5: No such file or directory
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| 17:20 | Meh, nope, I don't want anything to do with this upgrade :)
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| 17:20 | <vagrantc> kernel is probably all built-ins
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| 17:26 | <sbalneav> lol "what could possibly go wrong": Every sysadmin ever. 10 minutes later: "cr*p"
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| 17:27 | <vagrantc> sbalneav: i've been a little slow testing libpam-sshauth ... i *think* it's basically doing it's job, but the code that hooks into display managers may need updating and/or rewriting
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| 17:27 | <sbalneav> ok
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| 17:27 | Ping me for anything you need.
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| 17:28 | <vagrantc> help setting up the simplest test case woudl be useful
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| 17:28 | since the display manager brings all sorts of mess into the equation
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| 17:28 | i think alkisg wanted to use it for tty logins
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| 17:28 | <sbalneav> hm, ok. I'll have to set up a server.
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| 17:29 | <alkisg> Yup it would make it possible to make some thin clients run their session in beefy fat clients instead of the server
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| 17:30 | * vagrantc wonders how hard it would be to write unit tests for libpam-sshauth | |
| 17:30 | <vagrantc> build-depends: openssh-server
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| 17:30 | <sbalneav> Prolly not too hard.
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| 17:30 | <vagrantc> hah
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| 18:04 | <alkisg> vagrantc: in a few days ubuntu will drop software-center in favor of gnome-software, which takes its data from appdata.xml
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| 18:05 | We'll need to put appdata.xml files in ltsp, ldm and epoptes
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| 18:05 | If we do that within 20 days or so, they'll even make it to 16.04
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| 18:05 | https://freedesktop.org/software/appstream/docs/chap-Quickstart.html
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| 18:06 | I didn't yet manage to tell distutilsextra to pull the translatable strings from appdata.xml though...
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| 18:16 | <vagrantc> oh boy, a new format to support!
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| 18:16 | <alkisg> That one is cross-distro, sounds like a good thing
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| 18:16 | <vagrantc> sure
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| 18:16 | <alkisg> I'd prefer it if it was a webservice instead, but it's not that bad
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| 18:16 | <vagrantc> as long as it doesn't change every 6 months
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| 18:24 | * alkisg wonders if debian/control will get updated to not require a description in the future... | |
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| 20:33 | <vagrantc> ugh.
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| 20:34 | debian jessie seems to be having the "stalling on network interfaces" issue now...
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| 20:51 | sbalneav: well, the new libpam-sshauth works fine with jessie + lightdm ... gdm3 is borked in all manner of strange ways
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| 20:51 | but i don't get the impression that libpam-sshauth is the problem
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| 20:53 | ah, the ltsp-pam scripts are writing to /etc/pam.d/gdm3, but it reads /etc/pam.d/gdm-*
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| 20:55 | appears to be getting hung up in all sorts of policykit madness
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| 20:57 | seems to work fine for login
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| 21:30 | when i said login, i meant /etc/pam.d/login
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| 21:30 | but stretch is apparently more finicky.
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| 21:30 | though i half got it working
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| 21:34 | although an interesting side-effect was that root logins didn't require (or even ask for a password)
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| 21:34 | eeyk.
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| 21:43 | sbalneav: i think i'll just tag it as 0.4.1 and upload, unless you've any objections?
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| 22:55 | <vagrantc> sbalneav: alright, uploading away, can always fix later...
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