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Channel log from 12 August 2007 (all times are UTC)
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| 03:22 | <JonNoob> I need help... sudo /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server start, says fail. But my client still recieve a IP from the server. It seems like another dhcp server is running on the server, but it gives the wrong IP to the clients. I am running Edubuntu Feisty i386
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| 03:39 | Please.. Doesn't anybody have 5 min. to help me?
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| 05:49 | <JonNoob> Please help... My dhcp server won't start. I am running edubuntu feisty.
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| 05:52 | <K_O-Gnom> ogra: little question (and not ltsp hope you want help me) did you know how to setup distcc? (or did any body other know ? )
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| 06:30 | <JonNoob> Please help... My dhcp server won't start. I am running edubuntu feisty.
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| 09:14 | <EXP2> how you add a local scanner in ltsp5?
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| 09:16 | i have looked for documentation about that, but no solution
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| 09:22 | <BlackDark> EXP2, I don't know if it could help, but a scanner is similar to a printer, so you could take a look how to setup a local printer and trying to set it up like that
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| 09:22 | <vagrantc> "sane" is what you'd need to set up scanners.
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| 09:36 | <EXP2> i have done chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 and installed sane to there
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| 09:41 | does anyone made scanners work in ltps5?
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| 10:21 | <Mineque> hello everybody
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| 10:21 | i've got little problem with my ltsp4
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| 10:22 | host os: gentoo
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| 10:25 | ltsp 4.2
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| 10:25 | when i run app which eat little more cpu/mem client get freezy
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| 10:25 | <Mineque> and i can only powerdown it
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| 10:25 | and log once again
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| 10:28 | <Mineque> any idea of reason?
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| 10:38 | <K_O-Gnom> if i want to shutdown the ltsp client machine how can i do that?
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| 10:43 | <Mineque> K_O-Gnom: from client or from server?
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| 10:44 | <K_O-Gnom> Mineque: from client
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| 10:45 | <Mineque> just logout and press for a while power button ;]
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| 10:46 | <K_O-Gnom> Mineque: ok thats what i thought ..
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| 10:46 | how can i test my sound ? (the local one)
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| 10:47 | i compiled the ltsp with the esd and the soundfile use flag ..
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| 10:47 | <Mineque> K_O-Gnom: running some audio app?
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| 10:47 | <K_O-Gnom> Mineque: click the test button in gnome audio settings and got a error..
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| 10:48 | <Mineque> have you got esd configured in lts.conf
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| 10:48 | <K_O-Gnom> Mineque: i set the "SOUND = Y" option in ltsp.conf
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| 10:49 | Mineque: in my distro specific howto there is written ther is a sound package in our package manager ... but i dint find anything .. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/ltsp.xml <-- the howto
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| 10:50 | <Mineque> SOUND = Y
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| 10:50 | SOUND_DAEMON = esd
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| 10:50 | you should have both
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| 10:52 | <K_O-Gnom> Mineque: ther is nothing written in the ltsp official doc about the sound_daemon = esd option :-/
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| 10:55 | crap i killed my lts.conf .. (luckywise i have it on the screen from a right bevore closed nano ...)
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| 10:55 | <sbalneav> Which version of ltsp?
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| 10:56 | <K_O-Gnom> so i can copy paste it ..
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| 10:56 | sbalneav: 4.2 i think
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| 10:56 | yes 4.2-r1
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| 10:57 | ok dont work i think ..
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| 10:57 | <sbalneav> Have you seen this?
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| 10:57 | http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Sound
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| 10:58 | <K_O-Gnom> no ..
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| 11:00 | <Mineque> i found reason of freezing...
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| 11:00 | on wiki...
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| 11:00 | ;]
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| 11:01 | K_O-Gnom: you need to restart your terminal after editing lts.conf
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| 11:01 | brb testing swap ;)
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| 11:01 | <K_O-Gnom> hmm ok i have to install esd or alsa or some other stuff on the server for redirecting it to the client
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| 11:01 | Mineque: i know
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| 11:01 | <K_O-Gnom> dberkholz: are you here?
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| 11:03 | <K_O-Gnom> hmmm
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| 11:04 | ive got the esound init script on my server .. but it wont start ..
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| 11:05 | if i start it directly over the esound-esd app it says /dev/dsp no such device or dir ..
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| 11:05 | how did i get the /dev/dsp device?
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| 11:07 | <sbalneav> Well, the /dev/dsp is on the client, is that where you're looking?
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| 11:07 | <K_O-Gnom> sbalneav: on the client its there but on the server not ..
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| 11:07 | <vagrantc> K_O-Gnom: echo $ESPEAKER
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| 11:08 | <sbalneav> You don't need on on the server
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| 11:08 | The server's gnome session will forward it's sound via the ESPEAKER variable to the esd running on the client.
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| 11:08 | <vagrantc> many apps assume /dev/dsp if nothing tells them otherwise
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| 11:08 | <K_O-Gnom> and in the conf.d file from esound iss written you have to start esound on boot, if you want to use it over network
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| 11:09 | vagrantc: echo $ESPEAKER on the client says nothing
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| 11:09 | <vagrantc> esound is usually started in gnome by default, though i can't make any promises with gentoo, as i use debian
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| 11:09 | <sbalneav> Morning vagrantc
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| 11:09 | <vagrantc> howdy :)
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| 11:10 | <K_O-Gnom> vagrantc: so esound will start on the client and thats all? how can i have sound from the server then?
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| 11:10 | <Mineque> oh yeees
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| 11:10 | no freezyy
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| 11:10 | thank you guys for swap :D
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| 11:10 | <K_O-Gnom> in my gnome audiosettings there is only written autodetect ..
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| 11:11 | <vagrantc> K_O-Gnom: it seems like your ESPEAKER variable isn't set
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| 11:12 | <K_O-Gnom> how can i set it?
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| 11:12 | <vagrantc> K_O-Gnom: ESPEAKER is where you tell it to connect to your thin client's sound hardware
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| 11:12 | !sound
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| 11:12 | <ltspbot`> vagrantc: "sound" is http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Sound
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| 11:12 | <sbalneav> K_O-Gnom: First of all, what server are you hosting this on, what distro?
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| 11:12 | <vagrantc> K_O-Gnom: try those instructions
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| 11:13 | <K_O-Gnom> sbalneav: its gentoo the server
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| 11:14 | <sbalneav> ok, You're gouing to have to use the server side packages it lists there as a starting point, and play around a but.
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| 11:14 | the ESPEAKER variable must be defined everywhere in your session, which means usually at login time, somehow.
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| 11:15 | Sound on ltsp 4.2 was very "do it yourself"-ish, as every distro was different, and usually required some playing around to get it going.
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| 11:17 | <K_O-Gnom> sbalneav: did i have to install some sound drivers /sound systems on the server?
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| 11:17 | <sbalneav> In my experience, you shouldn't NEED sound drivers on the server, however, I'm unfamiliar with gentoo, so YMMV
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| 11:18 | <K_O-Gnom> sbalneav: on the server i havent a /dev/dsp ... so i cant start the esound init script .. may that be a problem?
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| 11:20 | <sbalneav> As far as I know, you don't need esound to start on the server at all: the ESPEAKER variable will tell anything that needs esound to forward the sounds over the network to the remote esd daemon: as I've said a couple of times now.
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| 11:20 | The wiki sound document's a big one: have you read it ALL yet?
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| 11:21 | <Mineque> sbalneav: do you know what is status of ltsp5 for gentoo?
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| 11:21 | <sbalneav> dberkholz has been working on it, I don't know where it's at.
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| 11:24 | <sbalneav> ok, off for breakfast
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| 11:27 | <Mineque> breakfast? :D
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| 11:27 | 10h ago :P
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| 11:31 | <K_O-Gnom> Mineque: here too :-)
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| 11:31 | hmm the descripted file ltsp-sound.sh dont works here ..
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| 11:31 | http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Sound (dont find the ltspinfo file ..
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| 11:33 | k found it and changed the path in the script .. now it say could not open connection to 192168.0.51:9200: The Argument is wrong (and the missing . iss no mistake from me ...)
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| 11:35 | <Mineque> hmm
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| 11:36 | there is no dot in ip
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| 11:37 | <K_O-Gnom> Mineque: i know ..
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| 12:01 | <K_O-Gnom> somebody here whos hosting a ltsp on a gentoo ?
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| 12:32 | <K_O-Gnom> nobody here who can help me with my sound on a gentoo machine?
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| 12:58 | <K_O-Gnom> dberkholz: ping!
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| 13:02 | wich distro needs very less ltsp config? and runs kde?
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| 13:06 | <spackle> K_O-Gnom: k12ltsp can do that
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| 13:07 | <K_O-Gnom> spackle: where can i cat it?
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| 13:07 | s/cat/get
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| 13:07 | <spackle> http://www.k12ltsp.org/
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| 13:08 | I think it runs gnome by default but switching to KDE is pretty trivial.
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| 13:10 | <K_O-Gnom> spackle: woop 6 disks reminds me on suse ;-)
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| 13:13 | spackle: didt k12ltsp have a grafical config tool
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| 13:28 | <toonix> Hello, is it possible to unmount a local device on a thin client without being root?
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| 13:55 | <vagrantc> K_O-Gnom: kubuntu should be fairly easy to getworking with LTSP as well
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| 13:56 | though support for gnome is better
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| 13:56 | K_O-Gnom: actually, skolelinux supports LTSP and KDE out of the box ...
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| 13:59 | <K_O-Gnom> vagrantc: thx ill try k12ltsp first and if that isnt anything ill try skolelinux ..
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| 13:59 | <vagrantc> K_O-Gnom: http://skolelinux.org
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| 14:01 | also http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Download
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| 14:29 | <dberkholz> K_O-Gnom: pong
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| 15:40 | <K_O-Gnom> dberkholz: can you help me getting my sound working on ltsp on gentoo?
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| 15:40 | <dberkholz> K_O-Gnom: sorry, i can't help you with ltsp4
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| 15:40 | <K_O-Gnom> crap ..
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| 15:40 | <dberkholz> shouldn't be much different whatever distro you're running it on
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| 15:40 | <K_O-Gnom> dberkholz: oh i think gentoo iss very different
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| 15:41 | and i dont know what to do ..
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| 15:42 | dberkholz: how long do you think will it take to get ltsp5 on gentoo? (i think your working on)
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| 15:43 | <dberkholz> K_O-Gnom: i can't really give you a solid estimate, because i haven't had a whole lot of time to work on it lately
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| 15:44 | <K_O-Gnom> dberkholz: ok so it will take a cupple of month ... and i have to try get 4.2 runnin ..
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| 15:44 | and i have no idea how it will work ..
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| 16:23 | <K_O-Gnom> dberkholz: little question .. did i have to start the esound init script on the server?
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| 17:38 | <melinate> hey folks, anyone around that might be able to help a newbie?
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| 18:00 | <cliebow> melinate:zup?
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| 18:12 | <vagrantc> melinate: just go ahead and start asking questions ... if people know the answers, they'll jump in.
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| 18:18 | <cliebow> and if they dont know..they'll jump in too
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| 18:18 | 8~)
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| 18:24 | <moquist> whiprush_: ping
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| 18:28 | <melinate> cliebow or others: I have an edubuntu server running dhcp, tftp and ltsp. an edubuntu workstation can find the dhcp, but the PXE boot cannot.... any ideas?
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| 18:33 | <K_O-Gnom> melinate: did you server your ip adresses by mac adresses?
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| 18:34 | <whiprush_> moquist: yo
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| 18:36 | <moquist> whiprush_: catch my PM?
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| 18:37 | <whiprush_> no, I don't think you got mine either
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| 18:37 | * moquist makes sure he is registered | |
| 18:37 | <moquist> am now
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| 18:37 | * moquist tries again | |
| 18:41 | <melinate> K_O-Gnom: I'm not sure what you mean... in edubuntu everything is as automatic as it can be. The dhcp does not have mac specific configuration if that is what you mean
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| 18:42 | <K_O-Gnom> melinate: yes thats what i mean ... i thought maybe your mac in the dhcp is wrong ..
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| 18:46 | <melinate> K_O-Gnom: the HP Vectra's I'm using as clients have two network boot options. PXE and TCP/IP
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| 18:47 | I thought PXE should be the right option, but if I pick TCP/IP it appears the DHCP resolves and the TFTP downloads and then nothing
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| 18:48 | <K_O-Gnom> melinate: no error text or something?
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| 18:51 | <melinate> K_O-Gnom: when I choose PXE is says "No DHCP or proxyDHCP found" and using the default dhcp config with the TCP/IP option I get "Image file too large for low memory"
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| 18:52 | K_O-Gnom: actually to be more precise the error was "PXE-E51: No DHCP or proxyDHCP offers were received. The client did not receive any valid DHCP, BOOTP or proxyDHCP offers."
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| 18:53 | <K_O-Gnom> melinate: hmm ok so you must get pxe working ... hmm sry but i dont know how it will work .. im also a newbie like you ..
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| 18:54 | <melinate> K_O-Gnom: okay thanks for the help then... so from what you know it sounds like my NIC won't work for the TCP/IP option? That's why you said I much get PXE working right?
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| 18:55 | <K_O-Gnom> melinate: i think the ltsp boot image is a pxe boot image and that wont work with tcp/ip ..
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| 18:55 | melinate: i only THINK that i dont know if it THINK right ..
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| 18:55 | <melinate> anyone know how I can determine the settings I need to make rom-o-matic.net work?
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| 18:57 | K_O-Gnom: the DHCP config loads two different boot images based on the client name. if the client name starts with "PXEClient" then it chooses pxelinux.0 otherwise it uses nbi.img
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| 19:01 | <K_O-Gnom> hmm i know but i dont know how that would hurts you ..
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| 19:02 | did somebody know why the ltsp-sound file from ltsp.org wiki says "couldn't open connection to 192168.0.51:9200: the argumant is wrong" (the missing dot in the ip is a missing dot in the errortext i dont know if its missing in the script too ..)
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| 19:02 | <melinate> I didn't know what type of images the nbi.img is... that's all
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| 19:05 | <K_O-Gnom> when i click the "test" button in the gnome audio settings (i select esd before) i got the folloing error message "audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 | audioconvert | audioresample | gconfaudiosink: could not establish connection to sound server" did sombody know why that occures and/or how i can solve this error?
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| 19:14 | <sbalneav> Evening all
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| 19:16 | <K_O-Gnom> wb sbalneav
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| 19:17 | sbalneav: i think i got one step closer to the solution of my sound problem ..
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| 19:18 | <cliebow> melinate:sbalneav is happy to look your dhcpd.conf over if you paste it..Yoy'll never have a better chance to resolve the priob
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| 19:18 | !pastebot
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| 19:18 | <ltspbot`> cliebow: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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| 19:20 | <K_O-Gnom> sbalneav: did you know what this message mean ? (i klick on the test button of my clients gnome audio setting and recieve it ..) "audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 | audioconvert | audioresample | gconfaudiosink: could not establish connection to sound server"
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| 19:20 | <sbalneav> Yeah, it couldn't establish a connection to the sound server.
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| 19:21 | <K_O-Gnom> sbalneav: did you know a solution?
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| 19:21 | <sbalneav> Sure
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| 19:21 | Fix the connection problem
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| 19:21 | <K_O-Gnom> sbalneav: would you tell it to me?
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| 19:21 | sbalneav: how?
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| 19:21 | <melinate> cliebow & sbalneav: thanks, working on the pastebin now
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| 19:21 | <K_O-Gnom> sbalneav: the env variable $ESPEAKER issnt set ..
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| 19:22 | sbalneav: but on boot it says - accepting connections on port 16001
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| 19:22 | <sbalneav> K_O-Gnom: Well, if it's not set, then that's your problem
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| 19:22 | <K_O-Gnom> sbalneav: it dont work if i set it manualy ..
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| 19:22 | <sbalneav> Of course it wont.
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| 19:22 | Because you're only setting it in that terminal
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| 19:23 | You need to set it at login time so that Gnome knows about it.
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| 19:23 | <K_O-Gnom> sbalneav: ok how can i set it global (for testing)
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| 19:23 | <sbalneav> You said you were running gentoo?
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| 19:23 | <K_O-Gnom> sbalneav: yes
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| 19:24 | <sbalneav> Does gentoo have an /etc/X11/Xsession.d directory, where startup scripts for X can be placed
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| 19:24 | <K_O-Gnom> sbalneav: i dont know i look for it
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| 19:24 | <cliebow> nust be a gentooista round here somewhere..
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| 19:24 | <K_O-Gnom> hmm no i havent a Xsession dir ..
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| 19:25 | <sbalneav> Ok, so where DOES gentoo put xsession startup files?
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| 19:25 | <K_O-Gnom> sbalneav: i think i cann place a xinitrc file in ~ .. does that work?
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| 19:25 | sbalneav: i dont know :-)
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| 19:26 | <sbalneav> Then, you know what you need to find out.
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| 19:26 | <K_O-Gnom> sbalneav: wayting for answer on an other chan
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| 19:26 | :-)
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| 19:26 | sbalneav: do you mean sys base or user base?
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| 19:27 | <sbalneav> Globally would be better.
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| 19:27 | <K_O-Gnom> so sysbase ..
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| 19:32 | sbalneav: did a gdm auto start file also work?
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| 19:33 | <sbalneav> No idea. I have no idea how gentoo's laid out. Do they have a general Xsession script that starts gnome?
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| 19:34 | <K_O-Gnom> sbalneav: xdm starts gdm what is starting gnome i THINK .. (little newb :-/ )
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| 19:34 | <sbalneav> No, that's not right.
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| 19:34 | You're either running xdm or gdm
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| 19:34 | one doesn't start the other.
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| 19:35 | Is there an /etc/X11 directory in gentoo?
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| 19:35 | <K_O-Gnom> sbalneav: yes ..
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| 19:36 | how is the Xsession.d file written? then i tryout if that works .
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| 19:36 | <sbalneav> I there an /etc/X11/Xsession script?
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| 19:36 | <K_O-Gnom> sbalneav: there is an /etc/X11/Sessions/Xsession script ..
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| 19:37 | <sbalneav> What's in /etc/X11/Sessions?
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| 19:37 | <K_O-Gnom> 2 files Gnome and Xsession
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| 19:39 | <sbalneav> ok, is Gnome a script?
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| 19:39 | Can you edit it?
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| 19:39 | <K_O-Gnom> think yes
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| 19:40 | Note : you might also want to add "export ESPEAKER=diskless" in the ~/.xsession of the user(s) who will use the diskless <-- that comes from http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Diskless_X_terminal_with_read-only_root
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| 19:40 | ill try that ..
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| 19:42 | sbalneav: you can find that line at the bottom of the howto ..
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| 19:44 | <sbalneav> Have you downloaded ltsp 4.2, or are you using the gentoo supplied ltsp?
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| 19:44 | Do you know shell scripting?
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| 19:45 | <K_O-Gnom> sbalneav: i use the gentoo supplied ltsp ..
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| 19:45 | sbalneav: and i know nearby nothing about shell scripting ..
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| 19:46 | <sbalneav> Gentoo did their own thing with ltsp 4.1. I'd follow gentoo howto's for how to set it up.
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| 19:46 | <K_O-Gnom> sbalneav: i follow them .. and on the soundconfig they all write ... ther is a ltsp-sound pakage in portage install it and all will work ... but ther ISNT any package ..
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| 19:47 | <sbalneav> ok, then that's an issue for the #gentoo channel then.
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| 19:47 | <K_O-Gnom> sbalneav: hmm ..
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| 19:47 | <sbalneav> I'd ask some gentoo people where that package is.
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| 19:48 | <K_O-Gnom> sbalneav: i think there isnt any one ..
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| 19:48 | <sbalneav> You *think*
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| 19:49 | You don't know for sure.
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| 19:49 | That's why I'd ask someone on gentoo.
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| 19:49 | I mean, if their doco says "install this package from portage", it must have been there at some point.
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| 19:50 | K_O-Gnom: Or, you could just ditch gentoo, and install a distro that works, like Debian or Ubuntu.
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| 19:51 | <K_O-Gnom> sbalneav: yes thats my last anchor ..
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| 19:51 | <jammcq> maybe a better way to say that is "install a distro that SUPPORTS ltsp"
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| 19:51 | Gentoo did their own thing and didn't keep it maintained
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| 19:52 | <sbalneav> Another option would be to contact dberkholz and see how he's coming along with the ltsp5 port to gentoo.
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| 19:52 | <K_O-Gnom> sbalneav: i asked him and he said it will take a while because of to less time to work on ..
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| 19:53 | <sbalneav> Well, then I'd find out why that package isn't there then.
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| 19:53 | <K_O-Gnom> sbalneav: yes ..
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| 19:53 | sbalneav: or try to set the env var globaly ..
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| 19:54 | <sbalneav> For that, you're going to need some shell scripting abilities, as you'll have to try to patch the ltsp-sound.sh script that the wiki page tells you to download into the Gnome script.
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| 19:54 | <K_O-Gnom> sbalneav: hmm thats to hard for me ..
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| 19:56 | sbalneav: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/ltsp.xml#doc_chap5 <-- FAQ the last question/answer
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| 19:56 | <sbalneav> ok, so like I say: get that package installed.
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| 19:57 | and if you can't find where that package is, that's the problem you need to solve.
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| 20:01 | <K_O-Gnom> so espeaker is set ..
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| 20:03 | <K_O-Gnom> ok so $ESPEAKER is set ... but it dont works same error again ..
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| 20:03 | <sbalneav> set to WHAT?
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| 20:03 | open a fresh terminal window
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| 20:03 | <K_O-Gnom> sbalneav: ip:16001
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| 20:04 | <sbalneav> type env | grep ESPEAKER
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| 20:04 | paste the result
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| 20:04 | <Q-FUNK> howdy!
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| 20:04 | <sbalneav> Hey Q-FUNK
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| 20:05 | <K_O-Gnom> sbalneav: cant paste type it ESPEAKER=192.168.0.51:16001
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| 20:05 | hi Q-FUNK
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| 20:05 | <sbalneav> ok, so telnet 192.168.0.52 16001
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| 20:05 | Does something answer?
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| 20:06 | <K_O-Gnom> sbalneav: first boot the client again :-)
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| 20:06 | sbalneav: telnet from server?
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| 20:06 | <sbalneav> yep
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| 20:06 | <K_O-Gnom> sbalneav: hmm dont have telnet :-/ ..
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| 20:07 | <sbalneav> Whacky, whacky gentoo
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| 20:08 | <Q-FUNK> heh
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| 20:09 | <ryudo> somebody can help me?
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| 20:10 | <sbalneav> ryudo: Dunno, what's your problem?
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| 20:10 | <ryudo> i have a UBUNTU 7.04 wich ltsp5, and the terminal boot is so slow
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| 20:10 | sorry , my english is so poor
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| 20:11 | boot delay for 2 minutes, my terminals are Cleron 333 wich 64 MB SDR
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| 20:11 | <K_O-Gnom> sbalneav: did you mean telnet 192.168.0.51:16001?
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| 20:11 | <sbalneav> no
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| 20:12 | telnet 192.168.0.51 16001
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| 20:12 | <K_O-Gnom> sbalneav: tells me unable to connect to remote host: connection refused ..
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| 20:12 | <sbalneav> ryudo: Are you saying it takes two minutes to boot, or the boot stops for two minutes?
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| 20:13 | <K_O-Gnom> with : between ip and port it says name or service not known ..
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| 20:13 | <ryudo> take 2 minutes ! :(
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| 20:13 | <sbalneav> K_O-Gnom: ok, so esd isn't being started on the terminal
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| 20:13 | <K_O-Gnom> sbalneav: on the boot it says it accept connections ...
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| 20:14 | <sbalneav> Well, it isn't
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| 20:14 | :)
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| 20:14 | <K_O-Gnom> sbalneav: hmm ok how can i solve this prob?
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| 20:14 | <ryudo> sbal my terminal boot take 2 minutes
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| 20:15 | <sbalneav> ryudo: Does it boot though?
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| 20:15 | Can you log in?
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| 20:15 | K_O-Gnom: You'll have to make sure esd is starting on the terminal.
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| 20:15 | <K_O-Gnom> sbalneav: how?
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| 20:16 | <sbalneav> Dude.
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| 20:16 | Go back and read the wiki page.
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| 20:16 | There's a trouble shooting section.
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| 20:17 | <K_O-Gnom> sbalneav: i set the sound=Y and sound_DAEMON=esd in the lts.conf file ..
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| 20:17 | <ryudo> yes after 2 minutes I obtain the LDM login screen
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| 20:17 | <sbalneav> ok
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| 20:17 | So, it's just a little slow.
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| 20:17 | We're re-writing some of the bits in ltsp5 in C to make things faster.
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| 20:18 | K_O-Gnom: There's stuff in the troubleshooting section about setting a shell on SCREEN_O2
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| 20:19 | <K_O-Gnom> sbalneav: i running atm at the shell
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| 20:19 | <sbalneav> ok
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| 20:19 | so... follow the troubleshooting guide
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| 20:19 | <ryudo> ahhh
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| 20:19 | <K_O-Gnom> sbalneav: wich one do you mean?
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| 20:19 | <sbalneav> The one on the wiki page.
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| 20:20 | <K_O-Gnom> sbalneav: this one=
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| 20:20 | ?
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| 20:20 | http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Sound
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| 20:20 | <sbalneav> Yep.
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| 20:20 | <ryudo> sbalneav thank you
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| 20:21 | <sbalneav> NP
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| 20:21 | <K_O-Gnom> sbalneav: cant find anything about starting esd manualy ..
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| 20:22 | <sbalneav> Is esd running?
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| 20:22 | <ryudo> sbalneav you can help me with another problem?
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| 20:22 | <sbalneav> Possibly, what's the problem?
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| 20:23 | <ryudo> my Ubuntu 7.04+ltsp5 it is freezing intermittently
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| 20:23 | <sbalneav> The server freezes, or the thin client freezes?
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| 20:23 | <ryudo> I check my memory's HD and processor Temp ... and nothing
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| 20:24 | i I find that he is ubuntu in itself
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| 20:24 | <sbalneav> What's freezing? The server? Or the thin client?
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| 20:25 | <ryudo> the server
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| 20:25 | <sbalneav> What kind of server is it?
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| 20:25 | <ryudo> the mouse or keyboard don't responding
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| 20:25 | freeze totaly
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| 20:26 | syslog or messages dont report nothing
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| 20:26 | <K_O-Gnom> sbalneav: THX its running an playing sound :-) NICE
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| 20:27 | sbalneav: edit the rc.sound file by adding -public was the solution
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| 20:27 | <Q-FUNK> K_O-Gnom: you have a THX sound system connected to your thin client?
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| 20:27 | <K_O-Gnom> Q-FUNK: atm not but i ve been able to :-)
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| 20:27 | sbalneav: i think a should write a better howto ...
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| 20:28 | <Q-FUNK> better howtos are always appreciated
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| 20:29 | <K_O-Gnom> so next step make the ESPEAKER var set by user or by script .. AND set up everything complete new ...
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| 20:32 | <ryudo> sbalneav ? :(
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| 20:32 | <sbalneav> ryudo: I asked you what kind of server it was. You haven't told me yet.
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| 20:33 | <ryudo> sorry translating
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| 20:33 | wait
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| 20:35 | Athlon 3700+ sandiego , 2 GB DDR 400 SAMSUNG, 420 W ST, 1 SATA HD 80 GB
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| 20:35 | MB = ASUS A8V
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| 20:35 | distro = UBUNTU 7.04 32 bits
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| 20:37 | <sbalneav> Maybe you need "noacpi" on the command line.
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| 20:37 | <ryudo> before I used the fedora 6 wich ltsp 4.2 and never server frozen !
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| 20:37 | <K_O-Gnom> good n8 @ all and thx for help
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| 20:38 | <ryudo> hum
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| 20:38 | <sbalneav> Well, fedora's a different distro.
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| 20:38 | check in #ubuntu-br
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| 20:38 | <ryudo> acpi can be the cause of intermitent freezes ?
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| 20:38 | <sbalneav> Can be, yes.
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| 20:39 | Have you done a bios upgrade on the motherboard
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| 20:39 | <sbalneav> I've had asus mobos with hanging problems, and newer bioses fixed them.
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| 20:40 | <ryudo> really ? is the A8V ?
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| 20:41 | <sbalneav> Not that mobo specifically, but other asus mobos
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| 20:41 | <ryudo> I updating my bios and add noacpi parameter in my menu.lst
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| 20:47 | <dberkholz> jammcq: sbalneav: just fyi, the guy who did ltsp4 in gentoo quit doing gentoo altogether and moved on to other things
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| 20:47 | <sbalneav> ah, ok
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| 20:47 | WHere you at with ltsp5?
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| 20:48 | <ryudo> me ?
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| 20:48 | <sbalneav> No, dberkholz :)
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| 20:48 | <dberkholz> sbalneav: working on the client builder. haven't worked at all on the init scripts yet.
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| 20:48 | <sbalneav> cool.
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| 20:49 | <dberkholz> most of the other things that need to get packaged are done
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| 20:49 | lsb_release, ltspfs, etc
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| 20:49 | <sbalneav> You wouldn't happen to have a status page somewhere where we could point people to, would you?
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| 20:49 | might be a way of attracting some help for you
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| 20:49 | <dberkholz> sbalneav: not really. that's a good idea though, if only to stop answering the same questions over and over
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| 20:49 | <sbalneav> Throw one up on our wiki
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| 20:50 | Then we could just put a !gentoo in the bot
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| 20:50 | <dberkholz> i'm doing a bit of research for my wife on how to convert flash to dv atm, so i can't now, but i'll try to get to it later today
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| 20:50 | <sbalneav> Oh, no rush.
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| 20:51 | Great that you're continuing to work on it!
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| 20:51 | <dberkholz> surprisingly hard to get something from openoffice impress into imovie
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| 20:52 | sbalneav: heh, continuing to not work on it might be a better way to put it. =D
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| 20:53 | although i did just do some work in the past week
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| 20:53 | <sbalneav> Either way, so ong as you're continuing. :)
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| 20:55 | <ryudo> sbalneav
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| 20:55 | You know as I do for deactivate the protection of screen in all of the terminals, without be necessary deactivate manually in everybody they?
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| 20:56 | <sbalneav> umm
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| 20:56 | Are you asking how you turn off screensavers globally? :)
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| 20:56 | The translator made a butchery of that one.
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| 20:57 | <ryudo> YES
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| 20:57 | sorry
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| 20:57 | i'm brazilian :D
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| 20:57 | and i dont nothing of english :(
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| 20:58 | <jammcq> ah, Brazil :)
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| 20:58 | <ryudo> :D
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| 20:58 | <jammcq> ryudo: what city in Brazil ?
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| 20:58 | <sbalneav> gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory --type string --set /apps/gnome-screensaver/mode blank-only
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| 20:59 | That turns the screensaver into "blank only"
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| 20:59 | <ryudo> São Luis - Maranhão
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| 20:59 | <jammcq> what region is that?
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| 21:00 | <ryudo> disable totaly ? i hate de black screen and after i need put password of the acount
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| 21:00 | its a small island
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| 21:00 | near of amazonia florest
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| 21:00 | <sbalneav> instead of "blank-only", use "off"
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| 21:01 | <ryudo> hum thank you sbal
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| 21:01 | :D
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| 21:06 | sbal you know how i make my desktop icons "undeletable" for my users ? my user's can delete de desktop icons like firefox etc ... i odnt like this :(
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| 21:10 | sbal ?
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| 21:23 | <sbalneav> ryudo: make them owned by root?
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| 21:24 | <ryudo> opa i'm back "
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| 21:25 | no , the icons owned by terminal acount
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| 21:25 | for example
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| 21:25 | i have 20 terminals and 20 acounts
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| 21:25 | terminal01 temrinal02 terminal03 etc
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| 21:25 | but the desktop icons of this acount dont have root by owned
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| 21:26 | <sbalneav> Ok, so use chown to make them owned by root
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| 21:28 | <ryudo> but the icons stay wich the padlock on the icons
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| 21:29 | <sbalneav> right
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| 21:29 | but they can't be removed now, right?
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| 21:29 | <ryudo> yes ...
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| 21:30 | <sbalneav> That's what you wanted, right?
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| 21:30 | <ryudo> yes
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| 21:30 | but
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| 21:30 | padlock , locked i can remove this ?
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| 21:30 | from icons
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| 21:30 | <sbalneav> No
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| 21:31 | <ryudo> :{
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| 21:31 | <sbalneav> If they're locked, they have a lock on them.
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| 21:33 | <ryudo> icon wich no lock visual has possible ? sorry sbal my english sooo terrible
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| 21:34 | <sbalneav> I don't know. I'm not a gnome expert.
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| 21:34 | Ask in #gnome
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| 21:34 | Not really an ltsp related question.
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| 21:40 | <ryudo> ok sbal sorry
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| 21:40 | but thx again !
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| 21:40 | :D
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| 21:40 | <sbalneav> No problem.
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| 21:54 | <ryudo> sbal bye bye my friend
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| 21:54 | thx again
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| 21:54 | <sbalneav> Seeya
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| 21:54 | <ryudo> i need sleep now
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| 21:54 | :D
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| 21:54 | here in brazil its 23:58
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| 22:22 | <sbalneav> jammcq: Say, there's so many places where we keep having to look up the terminal's ip and mac address. I was wondering, should we modify getltspcfg so that it automatically returns a couple of config variables, say TERMINAL_ADDRESS and TERMINAL_MAC, with the ip and mac address?
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| 22:22 | That way, everything else can just read those.
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| 22:23 | <rjune> jammcq !
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| 23:17 | <jammcq> sbalneav: so, in addition to returning the settings from lts.conf, it could also return the IP and MAC address ?
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| 23:17 | rjune: hey
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| 23:17 | <sbalneav> jammcq: Yes
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| 23:17 | Since it looks those up anyway,
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| 23:18 | <jammcq> I think there's 2 modes for getltscfg, it'll get an individual variable, and you can get ALL variables
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| 23:18 | I think you'd only want to do that extra bit, when getting ALL variables
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| 23:18 | <sbalneav> Right.
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| 23:18 | <jammcq> now, if only we had somebody who wanted to actually make that change....
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| 23:19 | <sbalneav> I can do it in my tree.
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| 23:19 | I just wanted to run it by you first.
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| 23:19 | <jammcq> seems like a reasonable idea
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| 23:19 | <sbalneav> Well, it would save us from re-inventing the wheel in several different places :)
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| 23:34 | <rjune> jammcq:how goes it?
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| 23:36 | <jammcq> rjune: going well. how's things down in Indiana ?
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| 23:40 | <tulga> when I run ltsp-update-sshkeys, I get "WARNING: /opt/ltsp/images/etc/ssh not found. skipping...". is it normal?
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| 23:40 | I'm using ubuntu gutsy
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| 23:40 | <sbalneav> tulga: yes
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| 23:41 | <tulga> but I cannot login system. I switched to shell, then tried to login. but I get Login incorrect
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| 23:41 | I checked /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/passwd file
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| 23:41 | but my users not exists
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| 23:41 | <sbalneav> Have you done an ltsp-update-image?
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| 23:41 | <tulga> yes
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| 23:42 | now building client again
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| 23:42 | <sbalneav> Well, unless you created users in the chroot
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| 23:42 | you won't be able to log in at the shell prompt
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| 23:42 | only at the ldm greeter.
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| 23:43 | <tulga> you mean I cannot login through shell?
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| 23:43 | <sbalneav> Only as root
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| 23:43 | and only if you set a root password
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| 23:44 | <tulga> no. I didn't set root password
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| 23:44 | ok. howto find where is problem?
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| 23:45 | <sbalneav> When you try logging in, does it say "This workstation isn't authorized to connect to server"?
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| 23:48 | <tulga> no. it said verifying password. please wait
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| 23:48 | after 2-3 minutes, I get blank windows with mouse
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| 23:48 | so after ~5 minutes, I get ldm again
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| 23:49 | <sbalneav> Is ssh running on the server?
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| 23:49 | <tulga> my server is 192.168.0.1 and client is 192.168.0.254
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| 23:49 | yes
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| 23:49 | root 7118 0.0 0.0 5276 980 ? Ss 12:05 0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd
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| 23:49 | <sbalneav> Have you set a SERVER variable in lts.conf?
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| 23:50 | <tulga> no
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| 23:50 | I didn't change anything in lts.conf
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| 23:50 | <sbalneav> lts.conf is in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/
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| 23:50 | add a SERVER = 192.168.0.1 to the default section.
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| 23:51 | As well, set a root password in the chroot, and rebuild the image
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| 23:51 | <tulga> ok. now going client build process
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| 23:51 | <vagrantc> what the hell.
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| 23:51 | <tulga> after that I'll try it
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| 23:51 | <vagrantc> server should default to the NFS server
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| 23:51 | <tulga> howto set root password in the chroot?
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| 23:51 | <sbalneav> chroot /opt/ltsp/i386
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| 23:51 | passwd
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| 23:51 | <vagrantc> did all the weird stick lts.conf into tftp screw everything up?
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| 23:52 | <sbalneav> vagrantc: Don't know, I'm just covering bases.
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| 23:52 | <vagrantc> defining SERVER in lts.conf should only be used if your login server is different from the NFS server.
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| 23:52 | <tulga> sbalneav: after ltsp-build-client, what I need to do?
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| 23:53 | vagrantc: really?
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| 23:53 | <sbalneav> restrart the terminal
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| 23:53 | <vagrantc> but i don't know what effects ogra's changes with lts.conf did
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| 23:54 | with ltsp5, we attempted to make the lts.conf obsolete for the most part. only needed if you need something different from the defaults.
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| 23:57 | <sbalneav> Well, if it isn't that way, we can MAKE it that way, but tulga's playing with gutsy, and there's a chance something may be broken.
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| 23:58 | <tulga> what is best OS for ltsp?
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| 23:58 | <sbalneav> At the moment, either Ubuntu or Debian
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| 23:58 | <tulga> gutsy or feisty?
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| 23:58 | <sbalneav> If you want stable, feisty
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| 23:59 | if you want faster-but-may-be-broken, gutsy.
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| 23:59 | <tulga> ok. I chose second
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| 23:59 | :)
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| 23:59 | <sbalneav> We're developing right now.
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| 23:59 | In fact, I'm editing and commtting now.
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| 23:59 | <tulga> cool
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