IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 14 August 2013 (all times are UTC)
| 00:09 | <bennabiy> Well, I booted my first vbox client and got a busybox, but I thnik it was because I did not restart the tftp daemon
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| 00:09 | !seen askisg
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| 00:09 | <ltsp> I have not seen askisg.
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| 01:57 | <Enslaver> low all
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| 10:46 | <boss> hi all
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| 10:47 | boss is now known as Guest55193 | |
| 10:47 | Guest55193 is now known as prem1 | |
| 10:47 | <prem1> when i connect a usb printer in LTSP client , its not getting detected
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| 10:47 | if i connect and configure the printer in server, then i can give print from the ltsp client
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| 10:48 | but on connecting the same printer in client end., its not working
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| 10:48 | how to make it work
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| 10:50 | <rickogden> prem1: are you using fat or thin clients?
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| 10:50 | <prem1> i guess thin clients only rickogden
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| 10:51 | i followed the wiki from debian , simply ran "ltsp-build-cleint" and the client booted
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| 10:51 | its as simple as that., awesome
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| 10:51 | but stuck only with this printer issue
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| 10:54 | <rickogden> prem1: hmm, not done it with a thin client. Do you have local devices enabled in your lts.conf?
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| 10:55 | <prem1> rickogden, by default it is enabled na
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| 10:59 | <rickogden> what about if you put into the lts.conf something like:
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| 10:59 | PRINTER_0_DEVICE=/dev/usb/lp0
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| 10:59 | PRINTER_0_TYPE=U
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| 11:00 | (assuming it's a USB printer)
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| 11:01 | <prem1> yes it is a usb printer,
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| 11:01 | rickogden, let me chk with this option and come back
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| 11:01 | rickogden, but before that., the printer itself is not getting detected when i connect it locally
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| 11:02 | so putting a value like "PRINTER_0_DEVICE=/dev/usb/lp0" will it work?
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| 11:02 | <mnemoc> detected by whom?
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| 11:02 | <prem1> its not detected by the client machine mnemoc
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| 11:02 | <mnemoc> confirmed ssh-ing in?
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| 11:03 | <prem1> lsusb doesnt show up the printer
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| 11:03 | <mnemoc> lsusb run on the client interface will show you the server
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| 11:03 | not the client
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| 11:03 | <prem1> mnemoc, so how can i see what are all the devices connected to the client
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| 11:04 | <mnemoc> prem1: ssh in
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| 11:04 | or enable debugging consoles
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| 11:04 | but ssh is better
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| 11:04 | <prem1> mnemoc, "ssh in" is it the full command
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| 11:04 | <mnemoc> no.... it's and action, not a command
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| 11:05 | install openssh-server in the chroot, inject your ssh public key, recreate the image, reboot the client, connect to the client ip using ssh
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| 11:05 | and run lsusb
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| 11:06 | <prem1> okey
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| 11:06 | <prem1> in this way will i be able to view devices connected to the client
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| 11:06 | <mnemoc> yes
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| 11:07 | but you can also asume it is been detected and just blindly modify lts.conf
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| 11:32 | <prem1> tried both the localdev and printer options in lts.conf., but of no use rickogden
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| 11:35 | still the printer is not configurable in client end
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| 11:40 | <mnemoc> ssh in
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| 11:54 | <prem1> mnemoc, yeah i installed openssh-server in the chroot environment, and trying to ssh to the client., but its not happening
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| 11:55 | my server ip is 192.168.1.5 and client ip is 192.168.1.22., in chroot am trying "ssh test1@192.168.1.22"
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| 11:55 | is that okey
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| 11:57 | <mnemoc> prem1: do you have a test1 account in the chroot?
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| 11:58 | <prem1> no
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| 11:58 | mnemoc, its in the server
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| 11:58 | <mnemoc> prem1: then it won't work.
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| 11:59 | <prem1> okey., mnemoc i created a user "new" inside the chroot
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| 11:59 | <mnemoc> prem1: easiest is to use root, and inject your public key in chroot's /root/.ssh/authorized_keys
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| 11:59 | <prem1> even now "ssh new@192.168.1.22" is not working
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| 11:59 | <mnemoc> also don't forget to recreate the image
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| 12:28 | <bennabiy> !seen alkisg
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| 12:28 | <ltsp> alkisg was last seen in #ltsp 17 hours, 8 minutes, and 32 seconds ago: <alkisg> No, I'm only using LTS releases
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| 13:10 | <lifeboy> Hi all, I have a quirk I can't pinpoint and not sure if it's due to LTSP or not. When a thin client starts Xsession (after booting succesfully), when the user select "Gnome classic" from the preferences menu on the LDM login screen, the error "Xsession: unsupported number of arguments (2); falling back to default session." is displayed.
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| 13:12 | I've traced the source to /etc/X11/Xsession.d/20x11-common_process-args, which check the number of arguments in /etc/X11/Xsession.options and if there is more than one option given (per line I think?), this error occurs.
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| 13:12 | However, there isn't more than one option per line in that file.
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| 13:14 | The strangeness of this is this: It works for all users, except for one of them. Previously I had this issue with another user, but because I couldn't trace it, I deleted the profile and restored the user's files but not the config and the problem didn't re-appear.
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| 13:15 | However, I want to solve this my finding the cause of it, since it's bound to happen with another user in future.
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| 13:15 | s/my finding/by finding/
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| 13:16 | If I log in as this user using NXclient, all is well. The error does not occur. It only happens from a thin client logon.
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| 13:18 | <lifeboy> and only for that one user
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| 13:19 | So it seems that there is something in that client's LTSP config that might be causing this, hence my question here.
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| 14:39 | <other_other_joe> admittedly no expert on ltsp here but I could bounce some ideas off of you if you'd like
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| 14:42 | I'd say, if you're running thin rather than fat clients, see if you can start an x session with that user on the host server using startx
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| 14:42 | the error there may be a lot more helpful
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| 14:43 | I'd also make sure your client was able to log to your host so you can get a look at the logs
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| 14:46 | and finally,as a just figure out what file it's related to effort, I'd just move an X related file out of their home at a time until it works
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| 14:46 | then at least you'd know where to look
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| 17:15 | <bennabiy> !seen alkisg
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| 17:15 | <ltsp> alkisg was last seen in #ltsp 21 hours, 55 minutes, and 1 second ago: <alkisg> No, I'm only using LTS releases
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| 17:15 | <bennabiy> bah
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| 17:16 | anyone know where all the PA config files are in ltsp?
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| 17:16 | PA = pulseaudio
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| 17:18 | <gvy> might be in /usr/share, dunno about current situation
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| 17:27 | <bennabiy> I have an install of 12.04 which the audio works fine, and an install of mint 15 where it doesnt
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| 17:27 | I want to compare configs
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| 17:40 | <bennabiy> vagrantc: welcome
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| 17:41 | * vagrantc waves | |
| 17:41 | <bennabiy> Do you know offhand where the system configs for pulseaudio would be under ltsp? (both for the client side and the server side )
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| 17:42 | I know on the client image, it is called in system mode
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| 17:42 | but where is that call made?
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| 17:42 | * bennabiy is bug stomping! | |
| 17:48 | <vagrantc> on debian it's fired off from the ltsp-client* init script, i think.
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| 17:52 | <bennabiy> what about ubuntu?
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| 17:55 | <digitalirony> I am using ubuntu ltsp, and its acting straaaange
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| 17:55 | <bennabiy> whats it doing?
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| 17:55 | <digitalirony> I installed gnome, and unitity disapeared, and I re-installed unity, and now in the session menu it just says 'ubuntu' but if I choose that, it says its not defined?
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| 17:56 | also, in gnome, the little 'gear/power' button in the top right hand corner is missing....I tried adding it back from the applet menu, but its not even there
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| 17:56 | <bennabiy> is this on your client, or on the server itself?
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| 17:56 | <digitalirony> there is one that says 'null' 'check for out of date applets' but I am not sure whats going on
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| 17:56 | the client
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| 17:57 | <bennabiy> Are you able to use the sessions normally on the server?
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| 17:57 | if you log into it?
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| 17:57 | <digitalirony> yeah
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| 17:57 | hrmm
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| 17:57 | <bennabiy> which ubu ?
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| 17:57 | <digitalirony> I have ubuntu 12.04 image that I use for our system right now, just a regular desktop install
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| 17:58 | would it be difficult to just convert that to an image for ltsp to use?
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| 17:58 | ubuntu 12.04
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| 17:59 | <bennabiy> I thought 12.04 came with gnome-default for those who didnt want to use unity.. I have 12.04 running in a VM server right now
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| 18:00 | <digitalirony> it did for the desktop install
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| 18:00 | but on ltsp it only had unity
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| 18:00 | <bennabiy> ever tried MATE?
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| 18:00 | <digitalirony> that is, the ubuntu ltsp install from the alternatives cd
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| 18:00 | never tried mate
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| 18:00 | what is it
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| 18:00 | <bennabiy> MATE is like gnome used to be
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| 18:01 | gnome2 fork which is becoming quite popular in the mint realm
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| 18:01 | <vagrantc> i think sbalneav (one of the long-time LTSP developers) uses MATE
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| 18:01 | <bennabiy> It is very nice
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| 18:01 | <digitalirony> really, it would be awesome if I could just figure out how to take the existing image that I use for my pcs, and get ltsp to serve that
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| 18:01 | <bennabiy> very fast too
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| 18:02 | are you trying to run thin or fat?
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| 18:02 | <digitalirony> thin
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| 18:02 | <vagrantc> !ltsp-pnp
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| 18:02 | <ltsp> ltsp-pnp: ltsp-pnp is an alternative (upstream) method to maintain LTSP installations for thin and fat clients that doesn't involve chroots: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
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| 18:02 | <digitalirony> the image I use is pretty much already thin
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| 18:02 | <vagrantc> digitalirony: ^^
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| 18:02 | <digitalirony> the home dirs and stuff are all nsf mounts
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| 18:02 | <bennabiy> nice plug... ;)
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| 18:02 | <vagrantc> oh, ltsp-pnp is fatclients
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| 18:03 | bug basically it builds an LTSP image of the server installation
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| 18:03 | <digitalirony> it says thin and fat
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| 18:03 | <bennabiy> for thin with fat ram
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| 18:03 | <vagrantc> it does also work for thin clients, although then you may as well just do regular LTSP
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| 18:04 | <digitalirony> oh
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| 18:04 | <vagrantc> i would only recommend ltsp-pnp method if you were going to use fat clients primarily, and have a few thin clients
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| 18:04 | <digitalirony> I just want to convert the image I use for my desktops to serve through tsp
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| 18:04 | ltsp
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| 18:04 | <vagrantc> that's what ltsp-pnp does...
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| 18:05 | <digitalirony> then im lost as to why I shouldn't use it
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| 18:05 | <vagrantc> maybe you're not understanding the term thin vs. fat?
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| 18:05 | <bennabiy> that is what I was thinking
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| 18:06 | <digitalirony> fat == hard drive?
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| 18:06 | <vagrantc> not in this case
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| 18:06 | <digitalirony> or fat like, runs apps locally
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| 18:06 | <vagrantc> yeah, running all applications locally on the client hardware, but booted off the network
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| 18:06 | <digitalirony> yeah, I don't want that
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| 18:07 | <vagrantc> what did you mean by "I just want to convert the image I use for my desktops to serve through tsp", then?
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| 18:07 | that's what the thin client model does.
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| 18:07 | <digitalirony> I want the apps to run on the server instead?
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| 18:07 | <vagrantc> i don't know what you want.
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| 18:08 | <bennabiy> digitalirony: It sounds like you need to fix your server install. The client image basically only loads the essentials for using your local hardware, and ldm, everything after that point is on the server, including the session available
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| 18:08 | <digitalirony> I have an image I built on ubuntu 12.04, that has a bunch of desktop modifications, and it would be a pain to do it again
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| 18:08 | <bennabiy> It is your server which needs to be repaired
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| 18:08 | <vagrantc> digitalirony: ok, if you want the apps to run on the server, then you want a thin client model.
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| 18:09 | digitalirony: so you would image your server just like the desktop image you want...
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| 18:09 | <digitalirony> vagrantc: yes, but, I want it to serv all the modifications, and shit I made to gnome on the old pcs I am using right now that run from HDD
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| 18:09 | <vagrantc> and hope that the programs you rely on aren't so buggy as to be unuseable over the network.
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| 18:09 | <digitalirony> vagrantc: but I thought it served the image from /opt/ltsp/amd64/ ?
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| 18:09 | gah im confused now
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| 18:10 | the stuff in /opt/ltsp/amd64 isn't a full install?
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| 18:10 | <vagrantc> correct.
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| 18:10 | <digitalirony> oh
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| 18:10 | <vagrantc> it's a minimal thin client os
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| 18:10 | which connects to the server to run applications
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| 18:10 | <digitalirony> so, it doesn't work like a VM
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| 18:10 | <vagrantc> (unless you're running fat clients)
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| 18:11 | it's unrelated to VM
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| 18:11 | <digitalirony> ahh
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| 18:11 | <vagrantc> i.e. you can run VM clients, VM servers, etc.
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| 18:11 | <digitalirony> I was thinking this whole time, that I was building a VM type image, and serving it via PXE
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| 18:11 | <bennabiy> digitalirony: It is only enough to be able to get you to a graphical login which then connects over ssh to the server where everything happens
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| 18:11 | <vagrantc> VM clients connecting to baremetal servers, baremetal clients connecting to VM servers, etc...
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| 18:11 | <digitalirony> and that it was modified somehow to use server resources
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| 18:12 | <vagrantc> your imagination overengineered it :)
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| 18:12 | <digitalirony> lol
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| 18:12 | <bennabiy> heh
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| 18:12 | <digitalirony> its waaaay easier than I thought
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| 18:12 | <vagrantc> yes.
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| 18:12 | <digitalirony> I guess thats what I fucked up
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| 18:12 | <vagrantc> at least, we like to think so
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| 18:12 | <digitalirony> I chrooted the ltsp
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| 18:12 | and installed gnome
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| 18:13 | instead of on the server
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| 18:13 | <bennabiy> that would do it
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| 18:13 | <vagrantc> it would probably default to fat clients then
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| 18:13 | if your clients had enough ram
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| 18:13 | <digitalirony> heheh
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| 18:13 | ok
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| 18:13 | so imma just try and install the image that we use for desktops
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| 18:13 | update the hell out of it
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| 18:13 | <vagrantc> digitalirony: think of the thin clients as extra monitor, mouse and keyboard for the server.
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| 18:13 | <digitalirony> get rid of puppet, and then install tlsp
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| 18:13 | <bennabiy> You might be best to just rm -rf /opt/ltsp/* and start your build over
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| 18:13 | <digitalirony> vagrantc: I was thinking of it that way
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| 18:13 | vagrantc: I was just thinking of the build process wrong
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| 18:14 | <vagrantc> sure
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| 18:14 | <digitalirony> well, the serv process heh
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| 18:14 | <vagrantc> digitalirony: typically, you only install your applications on the server itself... no need to mess with the chroot
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| 18:14 | <digitalirony> ahhhh
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| 18:14 | its clear now
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| 18:15 | <vagrantc> there are features to make it more complicated and confusing, but that's the basic model :)
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| 18:15 | <bennabiy> The only time you really need to mess with the chroot is to update it after an IP change and doing ltsp-update-sshkeys then ltsp-update-image
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| 18:15 | <digitalirony> yeah
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| 18:15 | I seeee
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| 18:15 | this is gonna bee waaaaaaaay quicker
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| 18:15 | <lifeboy> other_other_joe: Thanks for the tips. My client logs to the server on the user's ~/.xsession-errors. The strange thing is that the file that supposedly has 2 arguments is in /etc/X11, so it applies to all clients, but none get the error. I'll try the startx option on the server and see what I get then
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| 18:15 | <bennabiy> and even then, you dont need to actually mess with the chroot
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| 18:15 | <digitalirony> I will totally just use my image
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| 18:16 | most of the apps we run run from an app server
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| 18:16 | we just mount mathapps:/share/bin /usr/msri/bin
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| 18:16 | and then have desktop icons made and menu items etc
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| 18:16 | <bennabiy> Basically, set up the server with the image you want, and then install ltsp-server-standalone on it
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| 18:17 | do a few tweaks, and there you have your setupi
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| 18:17 | <digitalirony> I don't even need dhcp on there
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| 18:17 | just pxe and ltsp serv
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| 18:17 | thanks guys!
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| 18:17 | <bennabiy> good luck!
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| 18:17 | <digitalirony> soooo much less work than rebuilding it all
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| 18:21 | <vagrantc> bennabiy: recent versions shouldn't matter with ip address changes either
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| 18:21 | <bennabiy> for your ssh keys? interesting
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| 18:21 | even if the server IP changes?
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| 18:21 | <vagrantc> yes
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| 18:22 | <bennabiy> hmm. Good to know
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| 18:22 | <vagrantc> we disabled the hostip change detection in ldm
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| 18:22 | <bennabiy> I really wish we could just trash ldm for something a little more configurable
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| 18:22 | <vagrantc> just do matching of the ssh host key ... if someone's managed to steal your server's host key, the ip address being different won't matter all that much
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| 18:23 | ldm goes away in ltsp6
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| 18:23 | <bennabiy> someone was saying that in 6 it would allow for choosing lightdm or some such
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| 18:23 | <vagrantc> but ldm is *extremely* configurable
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| 18:23 | <bennabiy> if you recompile?
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| 18:23 | <vagrantc> that's not why we should get rid of it
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| 18:23 | bennabiy: it has dozens of hook scripts it runs that you can plug into, override, etc.
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| 18:23 | * bennabiy must just not know what I am doing... or it is not documented | |
| 18:24 | <vagrantc> it is not well documented
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| 18:24 | but the plans for ltsp6 will be much cleaner ... though may actually be less flexible
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| 18:24 | allowing use of just about any display manager
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| 18:25 | though fewer places to hook into
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| 18:25 | <bennabiy> vagrantc: do you know why my system would not read /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/ltsp/update-kernels.conf to keep changes in the pxelinux.cfg/default file?
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| 18:25 | <vagrantc> bennabiy: i seem to recall ubuntu 12.04 making some last minute changes where it reads from the existing .img file rather than the chroot
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| 18:25 | <bennabiy> Can you point me to any documentation on the hook scripts?
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| 18:26 | <vagrantc> bennabiy: the scripts themselves...
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| 18:26 | <bennabiy> I am using mint 15
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| 18:26 | <vagrantc> bennabiy: look it up on mint's documentation :P
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| 18:26 | <bennabiy> I am only running a 12.04 to try to pull some pulseaudio settings out
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| 18:26 | <vagrantc> bennabiy: but in general, it should be in the chroot's /usr/share/ldm and /usr/share/ltsp dirs.
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| 18:27 | <bennabiy> ok
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| 18:27 | I have a user that I need to perform a mount of a secure directory to his home folder, but only want it mounted there when he is logged in... could I hook into his login to perform that?
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| 18:27 | <vagrantc> bennabiy: removing /opt/ltsp/images/* and re-running things might work
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| 18:28 | <bennabiy> or would that be better suited for .bash_profile
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| 18:28 | <vagrantc> bennabiy: did you run: ltsp-chroot /usr/share/ltsp/update-kernels ?
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| 18:31 | <bennabiy> basically, I have a video issue with my thinclients which I need to append a video= to the kernel. If I run ltsp-update-image, it wipes the entry...
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| 18:32 | let me check
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| 18:32 | <vagrantc> it may be pulling from the .img file, rather than from the chroot
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| 18:34 | bennabiy: but you also need to run: ltsp-chroot /usr/share/ltsp/update-kernels
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| 18:35 | bennabiy: otherwise it won't read the update-kernels.conf settings
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| 18:38 | <bennabiy> 02:52:17 PM - alkisg: So you should have an /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/ltsp/update-kernels.conf file, right?
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| 18:38 | 02:52:44 PM - alkisg: With this in it: CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="init=/sbin/init-ltsp quiet splash plymouth:force-splash vt.handoff=7"
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| 18:38 | 02:53:06 PM - alkisg: ...change that, then run /usr/share/ltsp/update-kernels in the chroot, and ltsp-update-kernels outside of it
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| 18:38 | <vagrantc> yup
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| 18:39 | <bennabiy> bah~! I think that is where I went wrong.. I never did the chroot part
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| 18:39 | <vagrantc> alkisg tells no lies
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| 18:39 | <bennabiy> I really appreciate his help
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| 18:40 | He was trying to help me with my audio issue, but so far it is still a mystery.. although now I am comparing config files between ubuntu 12.04 and mint 15 as far as pulse goes
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| 18:43 | * vagrantc wishes mint developers would get involved with ltsp support | |
| 18:43 | <bennabiy> I know
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| 18:43 | <vagrantc> though we don't get too many mint requests in here
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| 18:43 | but in general, i'd like to encourage all distros to be involved :)
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| 18:43 | <bennabiy> probably because a lot of the ubuntu documentation covers mint issues
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| 18:43 | what aspect do you cover?
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| 18:43 | <vagrantc> debian
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| 18:43 | really hope to get ltsp6 support ready in the coming year...
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| 18:44 | <bennabiy> have you heard anything from the mint debian and ltsp?
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| 18:51 | <bennabiy> vagrantc: That worked... my issue was I didnt specify --arch=i386 for the ltsp-chroot
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| 19:09 | <vagrantc> bennabiy: ah, yes.
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| 19:10 | bennabiy: haven't heard from mint in any formal capacity, other than mint users coming in asking support questions
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| 19:21 | <bennabiy> that is a shame
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| 19:22 | <vagrantc> my impression is it's a pretty small project without a lot of support
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| 19:23 | <digitalirony> vagrantc: or bennabiy so, I just did that, and did ltsp-build-chroot
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| 19:23 | when it boots, its has an error
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| 19:24 | <vagrantc> ltsp-build-client?
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| 19:24 | <digitalirony> yeah that
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| 19:24 | <bennabiy> what is the error?
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| 19:24 | <digitalirony> the error on the client is socket error
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| 19:24 | * vagrantc looks into the crystal ball | |
| 19:24 | <digitalirony> its basically complaining that the connection was refused when trying to mount the nbd0
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| 19:24 | * bennabiy guesses you need to restart the nbd | |
| 19:24 | <digitalirony> imma reboot server after this update is done
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| 19:24 | but was just wondering
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| 19:25 | <bennabiy> rebooting the server will not do it,
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| 19:25 | <digitalirony> that would restart nbd?
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| 19:25 | <bennabiy> sudo service nbd-server restart works
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| 19:25 | I have pulled my teeth out over that one before
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| 19:25 | <digitalirony> well, I just did a really big update, cause this image is old
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| 19:26 | <bennabiy> I thought it was the tftp giving me issues, but it was because the nbd-server never initialized properly
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| 19:26 | <digitalirony> well the tftp works heh
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| 19:26 | <bennabiy> somehow you need to issue the command once, and it fixes it for good
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| 19:26 | <digitalirony> cause the image boots
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| 19:26 | <bennabiy> yeah, this was when I was a major ltsp newb
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| 19:26 | <digitalirony> ahh
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| 19:27 | im new to ltsp, but not pxe/netboot
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| 19:27 | and I never even used nbd before
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| 19:27 | heh
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| 19:27 | <bennabiy> I have been working with the ltsp environment for about 2 years
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| 19:28 | <digitalirony> before I got here, they were running debian 5 on the workstations, and every one of them was administered manually :/
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| 19:28 | I said fuuuuck that
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| 19:28 | 100 pcs
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| 19:28 | I built this ubuntu image I am using now, and threw puppet on it, and did it that way for the past year
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| 19:28 | but now its time to go TC
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| 19:46 | <bennabiy> Can someone tell me where the pulseaudio --system call happens ? I need to make the pulseaudio verbose to troubleshoot
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| 19:46 | on the client image
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| 19:50 | <digitalirony> is there an option in LDM to disable the preferences menu
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| 19:50 | or the ability to change sessions
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| 19:52 | * bennabiy bashes LDM | |
| 19:52 | <digitalirony> well, actually, I am pretty sure you can
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| 19:52 | I did it before
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| 19:52 | I just really don't remember how though
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| 19:53 | I think it was something that wasn't in the lts.conf documentation
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| 20:03 | hrmm, yeah I found where they said it was added
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| 20:04 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp/+bug/282884
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| 20:04 | but they never documented it
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| 20:19 | <digitalirony> LDM_FORCE_SESSION
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| 20:19 | that should be documented in the lts.conf
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| 20:21 | <bennabiy> agree
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| 20:21 | I think that is one of my main issues with ltsp is the lack of documentation
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| 20:22 | that is why I hang out in here... logs = documentation ;)
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| 20:22 | <digitalirony> well, apparently its in the weezy documentation
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| 20:22 | 12.10
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| 20:22 | maybe that option isn't in 12.04
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| 20:25 | * bennabiy is about to tome over xen/virt documentation... | |
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| 20:26 | <digitalirony> ahh, yeah, thats what it is
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| 20:26 | that option isn't in 12.04 :/
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| 20:26 | I would have to dirty up my repos and install ppa or something
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| 20:26 | I kinda feel like doing that makes shit a mess though, and I really don't wanna
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| 20:40 | <vagrantc> one of the easiest ways to help contribute back is documentation...
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| 20:47 | <digitalirony> I will totally help when I learn more
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| 20:49 | <vagrantc> even simply filing bugs that "feature X is not in the lts.conf manpage" would help.
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| 20:49 | i.e. LDM_FORCE_SESSION
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| 20:49 | <digitalirony> it is
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| 20:49 | its in 12.10
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| 20:49 | its just not in 12.04
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| 20:49 | <vagrantc> ah, newer version of docs.
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| 20:49 | <digitalirony> yeah
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| 20:49 | the option isn't in the version of LDM with 12.04
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| 20:49 | * vagrantc dreamed that the docs released with a given version are actually in sync with the software released | |
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| 20:50 | <digitalirony> I would have to install the ppa repos, which I kinda don't want to
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| 20:50 | nah, its in sync as far I know
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| 20:51 | just the option isn't in 12.04 version
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| 20:51 | * vagrantc knows for a fact it's not in sync | |
| 20:51 | <digitalirony> I found where I had this conversation before with someone
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| 20:51 | and I searched the chat logs
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| 20:51 | <vagrantc> maybe that feature, but others definitely aren't
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| 20:51 | <digitalirony> alkisg helped me a long time ago with that
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| 20:52 | <vagrantc> another great project would be to document the ltsp/ldm/ltspfs versions in which a feature was introduced
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| 20:52 | that way newer documentation would still be useful if it was simply missed
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| 20:52 | <digitalirony> would be better imo, to have one man page
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| 20:53 | and just list what versions it does/doesn't work in
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| 20:53 | or something
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| 20:53 | less confusing...cause at first I didn't even realize there was multiple versions of the man page
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| 20:53 | I just read the one that google found, which is old
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| 20:53 | <vagrantc> it's impossible to have a single version of the manpage, we cannot change the past.
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| 20:55 | the idea was to ship the appropriate manpage in the ltsp-docs package shipped with a particular ltsp/ldm/ltspfs version
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| 20:55 | but as usual, docs are often not updated when features are introduced
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| 20:56 | * vagrantc is as guilty as anyone for thatt | |
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| 21:10 | <Nilo> olá
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| 21:10 | posso teclar em portugues ?
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| 21:12 | I'm having trouble keyboard and video stations, how do I fix?
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| 21:13 | hello
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| 21:16 | <digitalirony> you just said you are having a problem, and you asked how to fix it
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| 21:16 | but you never described the problem
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| 21:16 | we can not read your mind
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| 21:48 | <digitalirony> lts.conf goes in /opt/ltsp/arch/etc/lts.conf right?
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| 21:59 | <staffencasa> digitalirony, '/var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/<arch>
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| 22:01 | <digitalirony> no, I don't think thats correct
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| 22:01 | thats where the image goes
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| 22:03 | <staffencasa> that's where my lts.conf file is
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| 22:19 | <digitalirony> weird, I don't think its read from there though
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| 22:19 | cause its read inside the client, and the tftp is just for serving the image
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| 22:31 | <digitalirony> hrmm, yeah, the lts.conf file doesn't seem to get parsed for me, in either location
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| 22:31 | tis odd
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| 22:32 | staffencasa: ahhh
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| 22:32 | # With the introduction of the nbd/unionfs/squashfs structure
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| 22:32 | # the lts.conf file moved to the tftp root please create:
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| 22:32 | # /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf instead for your changes
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| 22:33 | <staffencasa> are you using nfs?
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| 22:33 | <digitalirony> nbd
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| 22:33 | ndb
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| 22:33 | blah
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| 22:33 | nbd lol
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| 22:34 | <staffencasa> I gotta run, but if it's not parsing, you might want to make sure the section has a heading, ie. [default]
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| 22:34 | <digitalirony> baaaahahahahaahahahaha
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| 22:34 | <staffencasa> I'm pretty sure that matters
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| 22:34 | <digitalirony> yeah
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| 22:34 | it doesn't have one by default
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| 22:34 | damn it
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| 22:34 | <vagrantc> check to make sure it's actually downloading it from tftp
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| 22:34 | <digitalirony> thanks
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| 22:35 | <staffencasa> yup
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