IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 17 August 2022 (all times are UTC)
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| 11:35 | <SysadmOFF> good morning gents
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| 11:49 | <alkisg> Heya
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| 13:10 | <fiesh> once upon a time, there was an ltsp-5.4.4.tar.xz -- is there any chance to get it back, or a similar version?
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| 13:10 | it was the source code of ltsp-server
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| 13:10 | like this https://launchpad.net/ltsp/ltsp-trunk/5.4.4/+download/ltsp-5.4.4.tar.xz
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| 13:14 | ah https://git.launchpad.net/ltsp has a 5.4.4 tag :)
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| 13:23 | <alkisg> There are also some .tar.xz there: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/l/ltsp/
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| 13:23 | ...but they'll probably get removed once 18.04 stops being supported
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| 13:23 | <fiesh> ah thanks -- I'll better switch mit ebuild to git I think
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| 13:23 | <ABIXadamjurkiewi> fiesh: better try with new Ubuntu: https://github.com/abixadamj/free-serwer
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| 13:24 | <fiesh> ABIXadamjurkiewi: don't think that's gonna help me
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| 13:24 | <ABIXadamjurkiewi> snap removed, firefox, ms-edge as deb
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| 13:25 | it is just for creating fresh install
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| 13:26 | <alkisg> fiesh is installing the old ltsp 5 in gentoo
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| 13:26 | He hasn't migrated to the new ltsp yet
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| 13:26 | <ABIXadamjurkiewi> ok....
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| 13:29 | <alkisg> ABIX adam.jurkiewicz: btw, shouldn't that be "server" instead of "serwer"?
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| 13:29 | <ABIXadamjurkiewi> O yes, serwer is in Polish language
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| 13:29 | <alkisg> 👍️
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| 13:30 | <fiesh> lol I thought it was a pun with server and sewer
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| 13:30 | <ABIXadamjurkiewi> but I think i will leave it as is... because this is project with little users....
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| 13:31 | I made only about 30 installations in Poland in last 10 years
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| 13:32 | teachers and authorities loves Microsoft in Poland
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| 13:47 | <fiesh> beautiful, costs more and sucks -- but it's not real money, it's just taxpayer money
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| 14:01 | <SysadmOFF> just want to inform you that i have copied files from tgz into same ubuntu and started. As result - A lot of failed starrtings of processes and mounts with aufs dependency. Few files should be removed or commented out and i have already booted in X. Quite old image and very ugly, but already implemented ldap and sshfs and few additional things
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| 14:01 | which can help me in future. I Decided to make a new fresh live image=) But im happy because of issue resolved somehow=) Thanks for help!
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| 14:25 | <alkisg> LDAP in the old LTSP doesn't work the same way as in the new LTSP; it's a good thing you decided to start fresh
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| 18:25 | <SysadmOFF> quick question:
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| 18:25 | PRE_INITRD_BOTTOM_IMAGE_TO_RAM="dd if=/root/images/x86_64.img of=/dev/null &"
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| 18:25 | is this path should be changed?
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| 18:34 | and another one - just created img from linux mint with user bcadmin, now im not able to login with that user
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| 18:34 | strange
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| 18:44 | <alkisg> The user accounts come from the server, not the image
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| 18:44 | You can have 100 images, they will all use the server accounts
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| 18:45 | Add a user account on the server, then run ltsp initrd to add it to ltsp.img, then reboot the client
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| 19:57 | <SysadmOFF> i understand
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| 19:58 | i have installed mint21, and ltsp also there. so users are identical
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| 19:59 | but now i have moved img with ltsp, initrd,vmlinuz to FOG server, which im using for deploying IPXE images
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| 20:00 | so image succesfully started but not login. I have noted that if i put wrong username - i have a mesagge user not exist
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| 20:03 | <SysadmOFF> but if login is valid - it shows me "Login incorrect"
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| 20:04 | no matter is password valid or not.Basicaly it should be valid , because paswrd the same as login )) bcadmin:bcadmin
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| 20:09 | Strange, but looks like error message is not "Login incorrect" , but ".Login incorrect. " --with dots
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| 20:11 | <vagrantc> you need to run "ltsp initrd" on the server that is hosting the images
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| 20:18 | <SysadmOFF> there is no ltsp installed
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| 20:19 | after each attempt to login with bcadmin i have
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| 20:19 | Aug 17 23:18:14 fog sshd[674466]: Connection closed by 10.0.22.168 port 43086 [preauth]
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| 20:19 | in fog server which hosted ltsp image
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| 20:20 | looks like nfs trying to mount drive
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| 20:21 | <vagrantc> you'll need some way of conveying account information to the image, which is normally done in the initrd ltsp.img
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| 20:22 | you could use some other system, such as LDAP, but that is left for you to figure out
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| 20:22 | <SysadmOFF> i see, but anyway the same user with same credentials should exist on FOG server, because IPXE img trying to login to NFS with credentials
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| 20:22 | <vagrantc> what do you mean "login to NFS" ? normally, ltsp uses unauthenticated NFS
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| 20:23 | <SysadmOFF> yes, LDAP will be the best choice. And i will work on this. Do you have some good MAN for this?
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| 20:23 | <vagrantc> no, that is what i meant by "left for you to figure out." :)
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| 20:23 | <SysadmOFF> unauthenticated? strange, so why im getting "Connection closed by 10.0.22.168 port 43086 [preauth]"
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| 20:23 | 168 - ip of deployed live MINT
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| 20:24 | and logs im reading on FOG server
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| 20:24 | <vagrantc> ssh connection, maybe?
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| 20:24 | <SysadmOFF> each attempt to login via X?
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| 20:24 | how it can be
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| 20:24 | if NFS is unauthenticated
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| 20:24 | <vagrantc> NFS is just the filesystem
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| 20:25 | although sshfs is used as a filesystem for home directories by default ...
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| 20:25 | unless you configure it to use something else
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| 20:25 | <SysadmOFF> yes, thats what i mean) sorry
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| 20:25 | kernel http://${fog-ip}/img/mint21xfce//vmlinuz initrd=http://${fog-ip}/img/mint21xfce/ltsp.img initrd=http://${fog-ip}/img/mint21xfce/initrd.img root=/dev/nfs nfsroot=${fog-ip}:/images/ ltsp.image=mint21xfce/min21xfce.img loop.max_part=9
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| 20:25 | initrd http://${fog-ip}/img/mint21xfce/ltsp.img
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| 20:25 | initrd http://${fog-ip}/img/mint21xfce/initrd.img
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| 20:25 | boot || goto MENU
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| 20:25 | nfsroot
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| 20:26 | <vagrantc> yes, the rootfs is unauthenticate
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| 20:26 | d
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| 20:26 | although technically, the rootfs is a loop-mounted image where the image is stored on an NFS mount
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| 20:27 | <SysadmOFF> got it
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| 20:27 | so i need to have the same account on FOG as on LIVE MINT?
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| 20:27 | <vagrantc> well, actually, it's even more complicated than that, but hopefully we don't have to go there :)
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| 20:27 | <SysadmOFF> ahaha)
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| 20:27 | i hope we will not
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| 20:28 | ideally i want to boot LIVE OS and users will authenticate via LDAP
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| 20:28 | <vagrantc> if you have the same accounts with the same credentials ... it *should* work ... though i *think* they need to have matching userid, groupid, groups, homedir, etc.
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| 20:29 | <SysadmOFF> doesnt work with the same account names and pasword. Looks like should be more identical info =(
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| 20:29 | <vagrantc> or it's not logging into the server you think it is
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| 20:29 | <SysadmOFF> not so easy as i thought few weeks ago=(
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| 20:29 | <vagrantc> or you don't have ssh configured to allow sshfs ... or ...
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| 20:30 | using it the way it is designed is pretty easy.
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| 20:30 | it doesn't get in the way of doing more fancy things, but ... you have to know what you're doing pretty solidly. :)
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| 20:31 | <SysadmOFF> is it best option to do like this?
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| 20:31 | 1.Install MINT,
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| 20:31 | 2. install LTSP
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| 20:31 | 3. setup LDAP
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| 20:31 | 4 MASK in LTSP
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| 20:31 | 5. TEST ?
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| 20:31 | ))
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| 20:31 | <vagrantc> i don't know what you mean
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| 20:32 | <SysadmOFF> i mean best choice to get working live OS with ldap auth
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| 20:32 | <vagrantc> MASK ?
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| 20:32 | <SysadmOFF> mask ldap and other services
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| 20:32 | * vagrantc shrugs | |
| 20:33 | <SysadmOFF> ok OK)
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| 20:33 | <alkisg> Install mint, ltsp, configure sssd, run ltsp image, done
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| 20:33 | <SysadmOFF> my english not so good, so maybe im writing strange things))
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| 20:33 | alkisg , exactly!)
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| 20:34 | <vagrantc> and then ... copy over to other server and see what breaks still :)
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| 20:34 | <SysadmOFF> i see,you are not so optimistic ))
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| 20:34 | @al
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| 20:34 | alkisg greetings to you from CY
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| 20:36 | thanks to all of you. will try testing and trying to not to bite my own tail
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| 20:42 | <vagrantc> good luck!
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