IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 30 August 2017 (all times are UTC)
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| 09:49 | <ZAJDAN> ltsp server show me another IRQ than is in BIOS for COM(rs232)...is it standard?
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| 11:36 | <alkisg> !not-ltsp
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| 11:36 | <ltsp> I do not know about 'not-ltsp', but I do know about these similar topics: 'non-ltsp'
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| 11:36 | <alkisg> !non-ltsp | echo ZAJDAN:
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| 11:36 | <ltsp> ZAJDAN: non-ltsp: It's better to direct your questions to the most suitable channel. For example, for questions that are not specific to LTSP, you might try distro-specific channels, such as #ubuntu, #debian, #suse, #fedora etc.
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| 15:08 | <vagrantc> alkisg, rebasing your gits.
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| 15:14 | * sutula thinks vagrantc is speaking to nobody :) | |
| 15:16 | * vagrantc knows alkis reads logs :) | |
| 15:16 | <sutula> ahhh...thanks
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| 15:17 | vagrantc: Good meeting you again...I interacted with you here maybe 5-6 years ago, early on in your maintenance of the Debian packages
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| 15:17 | your nick hasn't changed :)
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| 15:20 | <vagrantc> sutula: yeah, i remember you
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| 15:20 | sutula: i may have met one of your colleages at some debconf
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| 15:21 | though early on would have been 11-12 years ago :)
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| 15:21 | er, 11...
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| 15:22 | <sutula> wow, you're right...I was applying for DD in 2007...time flies
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| 15:25 | <vagrantc> no doubt
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| 16:04 | * alkisg_web waves | |
| 16:05 | <alkisg_web> vagrantc: sorry, not very familiar with git yet :)
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| 16:06 | <ogra_> it hurts less after a while :)
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| 16:06 | (it never gets pleasant though (IMHO))
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| 16:37 | <vagrantc> alkisg_web: is it basically ready?
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| 16:38 | alkisg_web: i was planning on taking it through another test-drive ... haven't tested any of the patches since debconf
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| 16:39 | * vagrantc has never found any VCS to really qualify as pleasant | |
| 16:40 | <vagrantc> though i can't stand working without a VCS
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| 16:40 | how do people do it?
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| 16:52 | <alkisg_web> vagrantc: yes afaik it's ready for experimental
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| 16:52 | ...and possibly even testing
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| 16:53 | <vagrantc> alkisg_web: i pretty much always do NEW uploads through experimental
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| 16:54 | <alkisg_web> At some point I accidentaly undid a commit that I already pushed to launchpad, and then I didn't know how to redo it because I went 3 commits ahead of it,
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| 16:54 | <vagrantc> partly, because it still requires binary uploads, and i prefer to do source-only uploads for anything i expect people to use
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| 16:54 | <alkisg_web> so I saw "git merge" but it produced a silly merging message that I didn't want... so I ended up with push --force :D
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| 16:54 | <vagrantc> alkisg_web: git merge would be the proper way to fix that, if you already pushed the new one
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| 16:54 | <alkisg_web> I didn't want to "merge" anything
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| 16:55 | I wanted to commit my 3 new commits, after the one I had in launchpad
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| 16:55 | But I couldn't find a way to "push those 3 commits"...
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| 16:55 | I wouldn't mind pulling from launchpad, but I didn't want "merge"...
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| 16:55 | Merge for me means "import a specific branch", not "fix my own git incompetence" :P
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| 16:55 | <vagrantc> reminds me of https://joeyh.name/blog/entry/our_beautiful_fake_histories/
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| 16:56 | alkisg_web: alternately, rebase your branch against what was pushed
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| 16:57 | <alkisg_web> That sounds right, but I didn't even know how to google that in the limited time I had before saying "omg ok let's git force push and forget about it" :D
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| 16:57 | Sometimes it's nice to learn about other things, e.g. git while programming, but other times you need more focus and unknown things are distractions...
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| 16:58 | <vagrantc> sure
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| 16:58 | alkisg_web: for future reference, git rebase origin/master (or whatever the upstream name is for you)
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| 16:58 | <alkisg_web> ty!
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| 16:59 | <vagrantc> although that would have likely produced a conflict with the .pot file ... but git status is fairly good at telling you how to fix that
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| 16:59 | <alkisg_web> I would keep the .pot from launchpad if I knew how
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| 17:00 | <vagrantc> not include the .pot in launchpad?
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| 17:00 | <alkisg_web> I'm sure I could do it properly if I knew about rebase and if I spent 5 minutes with it
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| 17:01 | I just didn't have the patience at that time
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| 17:01 | Anyways... did you get a chance to review some of the documentation?
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| 17:02 | <vagrantc> alkisg_web: i don't know/remember where the documentation is
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| 17:03 | <alkisg_web> !ltsp-manager
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| 17:03 | <ltsp> ltsp-manager: LTSP Manager is a GUI tool that makes LTSP maintenance easy. It's the recommended way to install LTSP in common setups. More info: http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Ltsp-manager
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| 17:04 | <vagrantc> that 8GB ram issue is really annoying
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| 17:04 | <alkisg_web> Yeah :/
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| 17:06 | <vagrantc> alkisg_web: i think there is a way to produce documentation from mediawiki content, with a slight bit of extra markup ... wonder if we couldn't do that with wiki.ltsp.org
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| 17:07 | <alkisg_web> We're doing it for ts.sch.gr/wiki, but it needs to be a careful collection of pages
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| 17:07 | Unfortunately wikies can be bloated when there are many authors over the years
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| 17:07 | <vagrantc> right
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| 17:07 | it'd be nice to be able to output a .pdf and .epub version, though
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| 17:09 | heh... "soon to be available in Debian experimental"
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| 17:14 | * vagrantc gets to work | |
| 17:22 | <desperate_user> Hi guys! Quick question: Is there a way to chose between fat and thin client in a boot menu?
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| 17:29 | <alkisg_web> desperate_user: put ltsp.LTSP_FATCLIENT=True in the kernel cmdline
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| 17:38 | <vagrantc> still runs on debian stretch, at least. :)
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| 17:39 | and it actually brings up an editor now to edit files, rather than less in an xterm
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| 17:43 | alkisg_web: "Initial Setup" isn't translated
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| 17:43 | alkisg_web: i'm guessing we need to pull updates from launchpad?
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| 17:44 | looks like someone started on a polish translation as well already :)
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| 17:50 | still, i think it's worth uploading even without perfect translations
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| 17:51 | <alkisg_web> vagrantc: the last upload doesn't contain the last greek translations because launchpad wasn't yet ready, yeah
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| 17:51 | I'll do another upload when it's ready, e.g. in a couple of hours
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| 17:53 | Ah, vagrantc, if you want, just pull from ltsp-manager-translations and push to ltsp-manager
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| 17:53 | It should be ready now; I can do it in 1-2 hours but not just now
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| 17:54 | <vagrantc> yeah, seems updated, i'll sync it :)
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| 18:04 | <vagrantc> so, we actually need to commit ltsp-manager.pot before launchpad will see the appropriate strings?
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| 18:04 | or see/update strings
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| 18:22 | <alkisg_web> vagrantc: yes, I've documented the procedure in a commit in the source code somewhere... I think in ltsp
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| 18:23 | We upload ltsp-manager.pot on feature freeze,
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| 18:23 | and we download/merge the .po before release
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| 18:47 | <vagrantc> oops....
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| 18:47 | did a source-only upload, which will get rejected.
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| 18:47 | well, will try again
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| 18:51 | well, will get it right eventually ...
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| 19:11 | yup, source upload got rejected, retrying...
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| 21:01 | <ben_nabiy> vagrantc: ping?
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| 23:48 | <vagrantc> ben_nabiy: hrm?
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