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Channel log from 26 November 2011   (all times are UTC)

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15:56
<priyank>
Hi .. please give some example architectures of implementing 100 thin client
15:58
<knipwim>
priyank: i think you want to look at https://www.ltsp-cluster.org/
16:01
<priyank>
thanks.. for the link.. but I want some diagrams.... anyways thanks I am still searching...
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<knipwim>
some other diagram then listed on the technical introduction page?
16:05
<priyank>
thanks.. yes I got that :)
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21:28
<irctc417>
Hi all, after recommendations a few nigts ago I have installed 10.04 -- All appeared well but when I attempt to login from a client It it says verifying password . Please wait and then says no reponse from server restarting, which it duly does. I have tried ltsp-update-sshkeys followed by ltsp-update-image when I get a chroot /opt/ltsp/amd64. doesn't exist. my server is AMD 64
21:29
Apologies for that - but i installed --arch i386 .........any ideas
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<alkisg>
irctc417: ls -l /opt/ltsp
22:18
Too late :)
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22:22
<irctc902>
I have installed 10.04 today but am getting a no response from server message followed by a restart at the client. Any ideas ?
22:29
No doubt everybody is watching strictly come prancing - I don't blame you !
22:31
<alkisg>
!SCREEN_02 | echo irctc902:
22:31
<ltsp>
irctc902: SCREEN_02: to get a root shell on an Ubuntu thin client: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ClientTroubleshooting#Using%20a%20shell%20SCREEN
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<alkisg>
irctc902: once you get that, ping me
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<irctc902>
O.K. I have it
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<alkisg>
irctc902: ok, run: ssh user@server
22:34
Change user to an existing username
22:34
leave server exactly as it is
22:34
Don't replace it with your server name
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See if you can login, and if you get any warnings
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<irctc902>
get this message at command line Could not resolve hostname server: Name or service not known
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<alkisg>
irctc902: grep server /etc/hosts
22:40
LTSP puts "server" in the client /etc/hosts
22:40
If you don't get that, you have some big problem
22:40
And you'd need to describe your setup better then
22:40
Maybe you didn't do the SCREEN_02=shell part properly?
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<irctc902>
Have used grep server /etc/hosts ....what do you want me to do next ?
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<alkisg>
Did the grep show anything?
22:44
It should tell you "1.2.3.4 server", where 1.2.3.4 would be your server IP
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<irctc902>
have just cat /etc/hosts can only see 127.0.0.1 localhost 127.0.1.1 ltsp-desktop # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts ::1 localhost ip6-localhost ip6-loopback fe00::0
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<alkisg>
irctc902: in that same prompt, do: ls -l /etc/ltsp_chroot
22:47
Is that file there?
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<irctc902>
message back is cannot access /etc/ltsp_chroot: No such file or directory
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<alkisg>
irctc902: so this isn't an ltsp chroot
22:50
Maybe you didn't do the SCREEN_02=shell part well?
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<irctc902>
I don't remember doing it, can I describe what I have done today ?
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<alkisg>
irctc902: a few lines above, I told you to follow some troubleshooting method
22:51
I.e. to get a root shell on the client
22:52
The wiki site that describes the steps to troubleshoot your problem are in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ClientTroubleshooting#Using_a_shell_SCREEN
22:52
Did you read that wiki page?
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<irctc902>
Ok I still have it will follow it and be back
22:55
It says Vim not found and asks me if I wish to install it from * vim * vim-gnome * vim-tiny * vim-gtk * vim-nox
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23:02
<Hyperbyte>
My thin clients hang on shutdown (screen frozen with one solid color)... any idea what causes this, or how to debug this?
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<alkisg>
irctc902: where did you see about vim?
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sudo gedit /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf
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Then, paste the following into it:
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....that's what the wiki page says... do you have a web browser?
23:05
Hyperbyte: get a local screen too, and try: poweroff -fp
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<Hyperbyte>
Okay... can't right now, but will make note for monday. :)
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<alkisg>
poweroff -fp is supposed to halt without even running any shutdown initscripts...
23:05
Ah
23:06
Just ping on Monday then ;)
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<Hyperbyte>
:)
23:06
poweroff -fp... would it hurt to do that when a user is logged on?
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<alkisg>
irctc902: follow the steps from "Using a shell SCREEN" and below
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<Hyperbyte>
I mean, should a user log out first, or doesn't that matter much at all?
23:07
<alkisg>
Not from the start of the wiki page
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Hyperbyte: it shouldn't matter
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<Hyperbyte>
:)
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<irctc902>
Have created an admin account but It will not let me use sudo ltsp-update-image --arch i386 it says unable to resolve host ltsp-desktop
23:16
<alkisg>
irctc902: please focus a bit, try to follow what I'm sayin
23:17
The part of the wiki page I told you to follow only involved editing 1 file
23:17
It didn't say anything about creating admin accounts
23:17
Let me paste the text of the wiki page here for you:
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<irctc902>
That file was edited and I could say the info as the client booted
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<alkisg>
Instead of unlocking the root account and updating the image, there's a quicker way to get local root access to an LTSP client. Open or create the lts.conf settings file, by running
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sudo gedit /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf
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Then, paste the following into it:
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[Default]
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SCREEN_02=shell
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SCREEN_07=ldm
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That's what you need to do, just add 3 lines in lts.conf
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And then reboot your client, and press alt+ctrl+f2 to get a local shell. Can you do that/
23:18
?
23:19
Don't use vim, and don't create any admin accounts.
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<irctc902>
There would appear to be no tftpboot folder within lib
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<alkisg>
irctc902: do you have a /srv/tftp dir?
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<irctc902>
No ther is no serv
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<alkisg>
irctc902: on your server, run this command, and paste the output here: grep DIRECTORY /etc/default/tftpd-hpa
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<irctc902>
grep: /etc/default/tftpd-hpa: No such file or directory
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<alkisg>
irctc902: ok, it's time to explain what's wrong with your setup...
23:30
You can't have ltsp without tftpd-hpa in the default installation
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<irctc902>
Ok --- After the 10.04 install and updating it, I used aptitude install ltsp-server-standalone -y, I then changed /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf and then I built the client using ltsp-build-client --arch i386 so have I done anything wrong ?
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<alkisg>
irctc902: dpkg -l tftpd-hpa
23:40
What's the output of that?
23:41
When you installed ltsp-server-standalone, you should also get tftpd-hpa
23:41
And since your clients *do* boot and reach the login screen, I assume that you installed it
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<irctc902>
No packages found matching tftpd-hpa.
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<alkisg>
So, I don't think it makes sense for you not to have /etc/default/tftpd-hpa
23:41
How can your clients boot then, without tftp?
23:42
Maybe they're booting from another ltsp server in your network?
23:42
Here's a last try: sudo netstat -nap|grep :69
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This tells you if you have a tftpd server running
23:43
Do you? Does that command produce any output if you run it on your ltsp server?
23:43
<irctc902>
unable to resolve host ltsp-desktop
23:44
<alkisg>
irctc902: erm... can you open *another* terminal and run that again?
23:44
I suspect that you're running those commands in a chroot
23:46
<irctc902>
udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:69 0.0.0.0:* 1367/in.tftpd
23:46
<alkisg>
OK. Let's go from the start again now
23:46
On that new terminal, try to follow the command about sudo gedit ...
23:47
sudo gedit /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf
23:52
<irctc902>
Have added the lines required and rebooted client - have pressed alt ctrl and F2 and am looking at root@ltsp20:/# on client
23:54
cursor is flashing at this prompt
23:57
<alkisg>
irctc902: good, now do that part where I told you to run: ssh user@server
23:57
Read what I said about user and server