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01:44 | <foka> Hello! I am wondering how the /etc/X11/xorg.conf is generated in the LTSP client. I notice that /etc/X11/xorg.conf does not exist, so it must be generated on the fly. But where does it do that? I'm using Edubuntu with LTSP 5. Many thanks!
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01:49 | <Guest91172> it does it on boot
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01:50 | <Ryan52> foka: X doesn't need a config file.
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01:50 | anymore
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01:51 | ltsp might still do something, though...
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01:51 | <johnny> yes, it does
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01:51 | so you can handle serial devices and whatnot
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01:51 | stuff that can't be detected
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01:51 | we don't support that in gentoo tho
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01:51 | debian/ubuntu do tho
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01:52 | not sure how it's going to change with the hal stuff tho
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01:52 | <foka> Hi! Thanks for the response. I see that LTSP 5 would automatically generate a /etc/X11/xorg.conf based on the detected monitor/display card setting, so it is great. However, I want to tweak it because a monitor here is not returning the proper HorizSync/VertRefresh values, turning a 1024x768 monitor into a 640x480 one...
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01:52 | <johnny> there is a parameter for that
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01:52 | <foka> Ryan52, Thanks
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01:53 | <johnny> or you could just test
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01:53 | first try
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01:53 | in lts.conf
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01:53 | <foka> johnny, Is it X_CONF or something like that?
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01:53 | <johnny> CONFIGURE_X=F
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01:53 | let xorg try..
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01:53 | the default in debian/ubuntu is to build your own xorg.conf based on settings.. but if you set CONFIGURE_X=F
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01:54 | then xorg will try to figure it out
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01:54 | ultimately.. xorg should try to do the figuring out
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01:54 | <foka> johnny, Thank you so much! You have led me to the right place! :-)
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01:54 | <johnny> foka, if that does not work
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01:54 | there are some other lts.conf parameters that would be useful
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01:54 | X_HORIZ or whatever it's called
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01:55 | luckily i've never had to use that with my hardware.. but i know it can be important to override if X cannot detect the proper edid settings
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01:55 | <foka> johnny, Thank you so much! You are very helpful indeed. Just exactly the info I need. Thanks! :-)
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01:56 | <johnny> look at lts-parameters.txt for all the settings
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01:56 | it's in the chroot (in the current hardy version)
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01:56 | in inteprid (and the newest debian stuff) it will be in the server..
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01:56 | i forget where.. but i'm sure you can search for it
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01:57 | <foka> johnny, Thank you!
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01:57 | <johnny> you are welcome
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01:57 | :)
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01:57 | Ryan52, have you ever played with any of the zeroconf support that is entering many common linux apps these days?
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01:58 | rah rah avahi..
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01:58 | <Ryan52> avahi has messed up my stuff. I won't install anything related to or depending on it...
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02:09 | <johnny> that is sad that you had such an experience
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02:09 | :(
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02:09 | see.. i always loved the network browsing for file systems with samba on windows
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02:09 | avahi makes it possible to easily browse for network shares.. and use sftp :)
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02:10 | it makes life much easier
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02:10 | plus.. you you can talk to folks in the same room.. without setting up a server.. with almost all the popular clients
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02:11 | pidgin,trillian,ichat,adium,gajim, etc..
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02:11 | it was awesome..
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02:11 | it's fun to use in a coffeehouse
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02:12 | altho.. sadly.. apple seems to do the wrong thing with that on theirs
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02:12 | the default hostnames used are firstname-lastname-computer
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02:13 | so.. i think it is a bit of a privacy intrusion imo ..
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02:13 | it'll say MacBookPro, iBook, etc
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02:14 | no linux distro defaults to hostname that includes any personally identifying details iirc
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02:40 | <Ryan52> ya
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02:51 | <nubae> pffft apple is overrated in general :-)
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02:55 | <johnny> Ryan52, but that doesn't make the functionality uncool tho
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02:55 | Ryan52, cups also supports such discovery as of recently releases..
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02:56 | it meant that my gf just turned on her computer.. and saw my printer and started printing
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02:57 | i see ntp, distcc, and pulseaudio too ..
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02:59 | <Ryan52> oh, ya, I use that cups feature on my laptop...
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03:00 | <johnny> cups also has it's own browsing functionality built in.. so it could have been that
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03:00 | but over zeroconf .. much better
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03:00 | means it works with macs too
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03:00 | and more easily with windows..
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03:00 | not sure if they got it into vista.. but i'm sure apple has an implementation for windows
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03:00 | <Ryan52> distcc using zeroconf? that seems like a bad idea. I would not trust any random system on the same network as me to compile my stuff...
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03:01 | <johnny> sure.. but you would know which ones you setup
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03:01 | or which ones you trust
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03:01 | when you choose to start it
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03:01 | i trust my local LAN
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03:01 | <Ryan52> ya
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07:34 | <iproute> hi
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07:42 | <iproute> does anyone know if ltsp works with hp thin client 5300 model
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08:31 | <iproute> does anyone know if ltsp works with hp thin client 5300 model
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08:31 | ???
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08:39 | <tarzeau> why should it not ?
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09:23 | <iproute> because the tc 5300 has 32MB flash and 56MB RAM and i dont know if it can work
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09:27 | <nubae> it'll be slow for sure... 128mb should be the minimum
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09:31 | <iproute> nubae: why the need for 128mb? the X windows need so much ram?
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09:39 | <nubae> if ure gonna run any apps in xwindows, yeah
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09:40 | can anyone here tell me if debian/ubuntu/gentoo have system GUIDs above 500?
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09:43 | and if gshadow is used in ltsp at all?
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10:12 | <iproute> ofcourse you can have GUIDS above 500
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10:17 | <nubae> I know u can have them, but is it common place to find them on those systems
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10:18 | fedora and redhat make all systems users under ID 500
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10:18 | I know ubuntu and debian make it 1000
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10:18 | but I'm asking, is it common to find system user accounts over 500?
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10:18 | <iproute> yes ofcourse
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10:42 | <jammcq> g'morning friends
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10:50 | <nubae> hi jammcq
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10:57 | <nubae> hey can someone tell me if the following script looks ok
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10:57 | <ltsppbot> "Nubae" pasted "user details script copy to chroot" (8 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/8
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19:28 | <andresmujica> hi !
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19:29 | i'm using nbd swap but the /tmp dir is geting filled with nbd tmp files about once a week..
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19:29 | what i've seen is that the file is not deleted and remains there even if the thin client is turned off.
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19:30 | how can i resolve that?
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19:37 | <andresmujica> NBD_SERVER_OPTS="-a 3600"
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19:37 | maybe this option would do it??
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19:38 | <vagrantc_> unfortunately, that will also disconnect actively used ones, and crash your thin clients
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19:39 | http://bugs.debian.org/409531
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19:39 | <andresmujica> upps...
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19:41 | hmppfff.
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19:41 | so the keepalive in the hosts.allow would let the script to remove the swapfile or finish the nbdserver process?
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19:42 | <vagrantc_> setting the keepalive should cause them to timeout after about 2 hours, in my experience
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19:42 | and then get deleted
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19:43 | <andresmujica> ok i'll test that way
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19:43 | thksç
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19:43 | :)
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19:47 | ok done.. i'll check later if it worked as expected
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