IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)


Channel log from 16 December 2017   (all times are UTC)

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00:44
<fuzzmew>
sorry i forgot to say, it sticks at DHCP and times out
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01:14
<onixx>
good evening
01:15
alkisg: big rework here.. got rid of chroot ;-)
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07:14
<alkisg>
fuzzmew: what's the output of `sudo netstat -nap | grep dnsmasq` ?
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11:52
<jeremies>
I was working with my thin client and suddenly appear it the startup login screen, why this disconnection?
11:52
<alkisg>
Check /var/log/Xorg.7.log.old on the client, it sounds like a possible xorg crash
12:02
<jeremies>
alkisg: How to find the crash in the log?
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12:09
<alkisg>
pastebin it
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15:42
<fuzzmew>
https://pastebin.com/5VQGvzNz
15:44
<alkisg>
fuzzmew: sounds like you didn't run the initial-setup from ltsp-manager
15:48
<fuzzmew>
Ok will do again
15:49
<alkisg>
btw, output of this? netstat -nap | grep :67
15:49
<fuzzmew>
ok
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<fuzzmew>
https://pastebin.com/Ct896VMD
16:16
<alkisg>
fuzzmew: ok i see that now you ran initial setup and dnsmasq is running
16:16
Reboot and see if it works
16:16
<fuzzmew>
ok
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16:33
<fuzzmew>
at the attempt to boot client, it made it past the DHCP and on to TFTP error and it says the image file cannot be found
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16:46
<fuzzmew>
pxelinux.0 no such file or directory
16:55
<alkisg>
fuzzmew: and have you ran ltsp-update-image -c /, or using the ltsp-manager menu?
17:14
<fuzzmew>
I will run it commandline, the manager did not seem to do anything
17:14
<alkisg>
fuzzmew: you went to the server > create image menu?
17:15
and it "didn't do anything"?
17:15
Did you read the documentation pages in turn?
17:15
It feels like you didn't read them, and you're asking to have them re-written here in irc :D
17:15
!ltsp-manager
17:15
<ltsp>
ltsp-manager: LTSP Manager is a GUI tool that makes LTSP maintenance easy. It's the recommended way to install LTSP in common setups. More info: http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Ltsp-manager
17:16
<alkisg>
Just follow the pages there, it doesn't take more than 3 mins to read/execute them...
17:16
<fuzzmew>
I will try doing the commandline instead then.
17:16
<alkisg>
Nah
17:17
The correct way is to follow the wiki of ltsp-manager
17:17
If you don't follow it and you're trying various things, then you're asking for trouble :)
17:17
http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Ltsp-manager/Update_image
17:17
It's 4 lines there
17:17
If you try it and it doesn't work, we need to solve the issue
17:17
<fuzzmew>
Ok sorry I did not know what to do wen I saw no indicator that it was building the image
17:18
<alkisg>
But it's supposed to show a terminal that updates the image etc
17:18
It didn't show anything in your case?
17:18
If not , run ltsp-manager from a terminal, so that we see stderr
17:20
<fuzzmew>
under the image it has only the choices update and revert
17:20
<alkisg>
read the page
17:21
<fuzzmew>
ok
17:22
Now it is updating the image, ok so I pick UPDATE.
17:23
and if it fails, I can pick Revert right?
17:23
<alkisg>
yes that's what the wiki says
17:23
read it please
17:23
<fuzzmew>
Ok reading again
17:31
It does not say what to do when the client ends up with an initramfs prompt.
17:33
<alkisg>
fuzzmew: I suspect you didn't read the other page?
17:33
fuzzmew: http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Ltsp-manager/Installation
17:33
the section about "ipappend 3" there
17:34
(of course, you need to do all of it...)
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20:27
<fuzzmew>
I wonder if I need to do a reboot server?
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<fuzzmew>
IT does not say anything about what to do if you get initramfs, I searched and searched and it isn't in there
21:11
I did everyting and pasted it all in.
21:12
well, I did my bit. I will just wait
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21:19
<onixx>
hello everyone, I was wondering how can I troubleshoot X_BLANKING. It seems it is only effective when the machine is at the ldm login screen
21:19
is this normal behaviour ?
21:44
<alkisg>
fuzzmew: I have a few minutes for vnc if you like
21:45
onixx: no, it's not normal, unless there are desktop settings that override it, e.g. gnome per user settings
21:47
For example many desktop environments come with preconfigured screensavers...
21:48
<fuzzmew>
Ok
21:48
<alkisg>
x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr
21:54
fuzzmew: so the problem was indeed that you haven't followed http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Ltsp-manager/Installation until AFTER the installation :)
21:54
So it was too late to take effect :)
21:54
I.e. you had ipappend 3, but you had run the ltsp-update-image before the change... so it didn't take effect
21:54
In the next installation, just follow the steps in order
21:55
<fuzzmew>
That is so strange, I could swear I read it all.........maybe I'm going mad, I typed in everything it told me to. I don't know how it could have happened
21:55
<alkisg>
Hmmm, then maybe there's a 1% chance that I've missed something, although many people have tried it successfully...
21:55
Anyways, it should be fine now
21:55
Test with real clients etc
21:56
<fuzzmew>
It worked once before a couple of years ago, so I don't know where I went wrong
21:56
Thank you 1000 times
21:56
<alkisg>
You're welcome
21:56
fuzzmew: btw i didn't check,is that linuxmint?
21:57
And the only change necessary was --install-recommends, right?
21:57
<fuzzmew>
Yes, 18.2 sonya
21:57
Yep
21:58
<alkisg>
Nice
21:58
<fuzzmew>
If I remember I will add that to anything I install
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23:49
<vagrantc>
alkisg: i stumbled across this and was reminded of the idea to put all of ltsp into the initramfs: http://www.syslinux.org/wiki/index.php?title=SYSLINUX#INITRD_initrd_file
23:50
alkisg: using a similar technique for another project