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00:13 | <mum> how to set default homepage in ltsp when we open frefox browser
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00:14 | <alkisg> It's the same as without ltsp
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00:14 | <mum> but i wanted to set in ltsp for all user
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00:15 | <alkisg> Did the fstab thing work?
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00:18 | If you're using the kiosk plugin, just set KIOSK_OPTIONS in lts.conf to the page you want.
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00:24 | <mum> we are trying with fstab
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00:25 | and what is this kisk plugin
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00:25 | where to set ?
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00:25 | how to set it ?
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00:25 | we want ur support
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00:26 | <alkisg> I think you need to write down a paragraph about your setup, so that people here know what are you trying to do, and how
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00:27 | E.g. I thought some days ago you said that you are using the kiosk plugin
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00:27 | If you're now asking "what is this", then you're obviously not using it
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00:27 | So I don't know how you present a local firefox to your users.
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00:29 | And *if* you want, stop changing names, because people then don't know that you're the same user using the same setup that you described
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00:33 | <mum> allkisg : m using kiosk plugin but m asking about how to set that KIOSK_OPTION in lts.conf to the page
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00:33 | <alkisg> mum, did you read the ltsp docs?
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00:34 | Also, here's the man page: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf
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00:34 | <mum> k
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00:34 | i will read ...u got my problem or u want more explanation from my side
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00:35 | because we really want ltsp in our production
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00:36 | <alkisg> What I understood is this: you're using the kiosk plugin with Ubuntu 9.10, then point your users to a specific web page where a java applet presents them some kind of remote desktop solution
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00:36 | If that's accurate, then I got your problem. If not, nope.
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00:37 | <mum> yes exacly
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00:37 | exactly
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00:38 | now after that we want local hardisk of user to be shown in that desktop
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00:38 | <alkisg> sudo gedit /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf
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00:38 | Put there the following:
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00:38 | [Default]
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00:38 | SCREEN_02=shell
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00:39 | SCREEN_07=kiosk
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00:39 | KIOSK_OPTIONS="the web page you want"
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00:39 | For the kiosk plugin to be working, I assume you already have put stuff there
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00:39 | So I wonder why you were asking on how to edit lts.conf...
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00:43 | <knipwim> hmm, i don't see the KIOSK_OPTIONS in the lts.conf man page though ...
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00:43 | <mum> no i haven't put these thing u wrote above ,,, i putte only LOCALDEV_DENY_INTERNAL_DISKS=false
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00:43 | after [default]
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00:44 | thats y m asking what are the thing i need to put over there
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00:48 | <alkisg> mum, ok, try what I said above
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00:48 | <mum> k
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00:48 | <alkisg> knipwim: well, it's not the only undocumented option :)
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00:49 | * alkisg doesn't even know who wrote the kiosk plugin, but yeah it needs documentation | |
00:52 | <mum> k
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00:52 | let me try with this
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00:53 | if it works ...
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02:12 | <mum> alkisg: i have done whatever u said but it is not working
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02:12 | <alkisg> mum, what is not working? the home page?
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02:13 | <mum> no local hardisk
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02:13 | <alkisg> Did you put SCREEN_02=shell in lts.conf?
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02:13 | <mum> home page also not comming we are putting manually
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02:13 | yes i put
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02:13 | <alkisg> Then press alt+ctrl+f2 on the thin client
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02:13 | Do you get a shell?
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02:14 | <mum> that i din't try it
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02:15 | you want to check my configuration if u can
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02:15 | <alkisg> Try it it now, press alt+ctrl+f2 on the thin client
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02:16 | <mum> u mean to say when i get firefox , i need to put alt-ctrl+f2
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02:16 | <alkisg> Yes
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02:16 | <mum> k
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02:16 | let me check
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02:20 | <mum> alkisg : m getting console
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02:20 | now tell me what i do
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02:20 | <alkisg> cat /etc/fstab
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02:21 | Is this the fstab you created?
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02:23 | If you seat on that thin client, do you have internet access?
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02:23 | If so, you can browse to "/etc/fstab" from within firefox, so that you can then paste here
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02:23 | file:///etc/fstab
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02:25 | <mum> ya i can browse
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02:25 | it is showing drive
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02:25 | <alkisg> OK, paste your fstab then
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02:25 | <mum> to u
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02:26 | <alkisg> Here
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02:26 | <mum> .
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02:28 | Last message repeated 1 time(s). | |
02:28 | <mum> dev
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02:28 | dev/root / unionfs defaults 0 0
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02:28 | tmpfs /tmp tmpfs defaults,nosuid,nodev 0 0
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02:29 | this is m getting here
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02:29 | <alkisg> So it's not the fstab you created
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02:29 | That's why it doesn't work.
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02:29 | Now try something else, in the console
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02:29 | mkdir /media/disk
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02:29 | mount /dev/sda1 /media/disk
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02:29 | Those commands manually mount your drive
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02:29 | <mum> k but it is having localhardisk which is also not comming
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02:29 | <alkisg> See if it shows up on your java desktop after those
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03:03 | <yassinet> hello
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03:03 | i need help about ltsp cluster
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03:04 | some one can explain me the diff role of ltsp cluster
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03:05 | and the architecture of implemontation
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03:05 | please !
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03:06 | where is the community !!
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03:20 | <knipwim> https://www.ltsp-cluster.org/documentation/technical-introduction
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03:33 | <mum> m not able to see the local hardisk on desktop
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03:35 | alkiisg : how to do that let me know
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03:35 | <alkisg> (01:33:26 PM) mum: m able to see the localdisk
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03:35 | So u r able or not?
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03:35 | Anyway, /me needs to do some work. Later...
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03:45 | <mum> #ulteo
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05:23 | <_UsUrPeR_> goooood morning all
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05:25 | <evil_root> morning
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05:26 | <_UsUrPeR_> a quandry: where does the LTSP client get it's username/password from upon boot if ldm_autologin is set to "yes"?
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05:26 | I want to change the hostnames assigned to the clients.
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05:27 | instead of ltspxxx
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05:27 | and using LDM_USERNAME=<something> for each client in the lts.conf is a pain :/
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05:33 | <muppis> Do you have any pattern to use in usernames?
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05:41 | <_UsUrPeR_> muppis: yeah, all names start with css
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06:41 | <Hyperbyte> Hmm... I've had some people complaining that their audio on the LTSP terminal sounds 'hollow', compared to their IP telephony on Windows before... anybody any idea what could cause this?
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08:53 | <anivair> So i'm hoping someone can give me a hand. My server is up and running, but the connection is really iffy. It will stutter and play catch up. It's like I'm getting weird network lag.
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08:53 | I'm watching the processor and it looks good
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08:53 | but things are still moving at a crawl here.
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08:57 | <anivair> any suggestions would be appreciated.
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09:13 | <anivair> it's a lot like my network is playing catchup.
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09:13 | it's happening on the server, but it doesn't get to the clients as it should
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09:19 | <anivair> ouch ... i'm getting terribly slow network times. if I ping from my ltsp server to my desktop, i get anywhere from 5 to 100 ms.
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09:19 | from another machine right next to it on the network, i get 0.2.
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09:20 | pings TO the ltsp server are equally slow.
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09:20 | WTF
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10:00 | <anivair> nevermind ... nic card.
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10:11 | <Hyperbyte> Heheheh
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10:33 | <Roasted_> when I change the IP address of the server, do I have to edit any files to specifically link the images over for the thin clients?
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10:52 | <tastle73> anybody ever have trouble with the dlws 1220 and ubuntu 10.04 ltsp?
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10:54 | <knipwim> wow, there's even a specific ltsp manual for it
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11:10 | <tastle73> I think it is actually the stupid acer monitor
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11:27 | <anivair> Anyone happen to know what this means?
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11:28 | ltsp1:~$ sudo ltsp-update-image Error: chroot /opt/ltsp/amd64 doesn't exist.
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11:31 | <abeehc> /opt/ltsp/amd64 doesn't exist ?
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11:31 | <anivair> well, i get that
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11:31 | <abeehc> i figured
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11:31 | does it exist?
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11:32 | <anivair> it doesn't, but I'm not sure if that error means that the update failed
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11:32 | <abeehc> nah i think that scripts expects the chroot to exist in the first place
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11:32 | if not it doesn't do anything;' did you already do ltsp-build-image?
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11:32 | <anivair> i'm getting a "no response from server" error
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11:33 | so I did an upsate-sshkeys
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11:33 | and then an update image
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11:33 | (is that not the uisual order?)
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11:37 | <abeehc> yeah that sounds right
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11:37 | <anivair> sadly, still no login
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11:37 | <abeehc> once you update image you do need to rebvoot the client i imagine you know that
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11:37 | <anivair> I do
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11:37 | <abeehc> i guess you have unlocked shell on the client?
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11:37 | <anivair> oddly, i also can't use the external network at all
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11:38 | <abeehc> ah
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11:38 | <anivair> it sees my gateway, but I can't get to the internet
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11:38 | DNS servers are correct
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11:38 | <abeehc> are you doing the dual nic setup or whatever?
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11:38 | or do the clients have direct internet?
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11:38 | <anivair> yeah. I had everything running on eth0 but that card crapped out t his morning so i nmoved to eth1
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11:39 | <abeehc> I see
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11:39 | <anivair> everyone can get on the server fine (or could till now)
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11:39 | <abeehc> are you using ubuntu?
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11:39 | even after you made that change?
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11:39 | <anivair> but after an hour or so it won't let people log in.
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11:39 | ubuntu, yes
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11:39 | <abeehc> i assume the client can ping the server
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11:39 | <anivair> not sure.
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11:39 | <abeehc> personaly i'd be tempted to switch eth1 to eth0
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11:39 | <anivair> actually, yes, of course it can
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11:40 | <abeehc> hehe
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11:40 | <anivair> it loads fine. they get a login prompt
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11:40 | just can't actually log in.
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11:40 | <abeehc> and your auth is against normal linux users on the server?
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11:40 | <anivair> yes. I tried my admin login just to be sure
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11:40 | <abeehc> or something more interesting?
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11:40 | ok
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11:40 | coudl you patestbin the bad ldm.log
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11:40 | maybe interesting maybenot
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11:42 | <anivair> umm ... I don't seem to have any ldm.log.
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11:42 | <abeehc> sorry that would be a file on the client
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11:42 | <anivair> ahh
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11:42 | hold on
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11:42 | <abeehc> var/log/ldm.log
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11:44 | <vagrantc> abeehc: do you have 65-bit clients?
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11:44 | abeehc: you probably want to run ltsp-update-image --arch i386
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11:44 | <abeehc> 64 bit clients i assume
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11:44 | 65sounds better though
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11:44 | <vagrantc> sure ...
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11:44 | <abeehc> I don't myself not in production anyway
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11:44 | <vagrantc> or should i directed that to anivair
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11:45 | <abeehc> anivair:
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11:45 | is the person with the troubles
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11:45 | <vagrantc> ah
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11:45 | <anivair> from the cmd line on the client:
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11:45 | <abeehc> he kkinda skipped over the first issue though
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11:45 | <vagrantc> anivair: you probably want ltsp-update-image --arch i386
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11:45 | <abeehc> i asusme his chroots are correct now
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11:45 | http://ltsp.pastebin.com
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11:45 | * vagrantc is just trying to pipe in by reading backscroll | |
11:45 | <anivair> hda-intel: spurious response 0x0:0x0, last cmd = 0 x1435012
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11:45 | <abeehc> vagrantc: much appreciated
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11:46 | <anivair> running the update image
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11:46 | <abeehc> I just jump in while the timezones are in my favour normaly
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11:48 | and the backscroll readers tend to correct me on many points about 8 hours later
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11:51 | <anivair> no change.
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11:51 | after the update image and rebooting the clients
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11:52 | getting the same spurious response message as well.
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11:52 | <abeehc> i'm not sure if the spurious thing is important.. my machines do funny things like that i think
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11:53 | so you cannot login?
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11:53 | <abeehc> i'd still be interested int he client /var/log/ldm.log after a failed login try
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11:53 | <anivair> er ... what is the login i'm supposed to be using for the client?
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11:54 | because I can't say I have ever logged into a client (well, not in the last year)
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11:54 | <abeehc> to get that file you'd need the root acount unlocked within the chroot
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11:54 | I see
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11:54 | <anivair> if I F1 on the client, it's asking for a login and p-assword
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11:54 | <abeehc> traditional clients only have a root account I think
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11:54 | that said if it's a fresh chroot, the accoutn will not be unlocked
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11:54 | <anivair> these are disklessworkstation clients.
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11:54 | if that matters
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11:55 | <abeehc> nope I don't think so
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11:55 | <anivair> so no idea about the password?
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11:55 | <abeehc> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/UnlockChrootRootAcct
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11:55 | i always unlock the account myself; I also install openssh in the chroot too so i can remotely deal with wierd things
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11:56 | I think those instructions apply.. I could be mistaken and the ldm.log won't say anything cool bu tnot sure.. I think having the root account unlocked is pretty useful anyway
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11:56 | <anivair> I'm confused. Am I not logging into the thin client?
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11:57 | oh, i see
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11:57 | <abeehc> ok, a fresh chroot (filesystem on the
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11:57 | ok
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11:57 | <anivair> give me a sec
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11:58 | <abeehc> you will probly want to setup SHELL_02 directive in lts.conf if you haven't already
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12:05 | <anivair> okay ... pair of ldm.log's in hand
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12:06 | here is the login data:
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12:06 | Process 3069 exited with status 0
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12:06 | ssh_session: ssh -Y -t -M -S /var/run/ldm_socket_2902_100.100.100.18 -o NumberOfPasswordPrompts=1 rossman@100.100.100.18
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12:06 | echo LTSPROCKS; /bin/sh -
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12:06 | <abeehc> hey do pastebin
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12:06 | <anivair> ldm_spawn: pid = 3078
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12:06 | <abeehc> it'll be prettier
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12:07 | <anivair> you lost me, but here's a link
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12:07 | http://anivair.com/downloads/WORK/ldm.log
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12:07 | that's a reboot, one login attempt, and then the login prompt resetting
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12:08 | <abeehc> ok have you got the root account unlocked?
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12:08 | <anivair> I do
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12:08 | <abeehc> that kinda look slike ssh keys still to me
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12:08 | try ssh as root to the server, i think, that should login with not prompt
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12:08 | <anivair> I can do them again, i guess. see what happens
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12:08 | <abeehc> from the client
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12:08 | usually i run update-keys acouple times haha
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12:08 | but it should have no affect
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12:09 | it could be your nic change is the root cuase here but I don't know where that might be changed
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12:09 | <anivair> well, it's odd that after the nic change, people logged in just fine
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12:09 | and now they are not
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12:09 | very weird
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12:09 | <abeehc> yeah for sure :|
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12:10 | nvm, it should ask you for a root pass i was mistaken
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12:10 | do youi see anything cool in the server's /var/log/auth.log
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12:18 | <anivair> a) new ldm.log is exactly the same as the old one with the new pids
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12:18 | b) auth.log DOES show something interesting. it's showing none of these attempts
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12:18 | so they're not hitting the server at all
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12:18 | or at least not deep enough to get to the log
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12:19 | <abeehc> can you go to a client shell, and try ssh username@server
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12:19 | where username is the normal user your are trying to login to ldm with
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12:19 | it should ask for a pass and hten log you in.. if not somethings bad
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12:19 | <anivair> I can. note that I can sftp to my own machine. that';s how I got the ldm files
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12:19 | but I'll try the server
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12:19 | <abeehc> ok
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12:19 | from client to server is most important i think
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12:22 | <anivair> odd
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12:22 | I can ssh to my desktop, but not to the client (same network)
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12:23 | also, i can ping the server, but not ssh
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12:23 | so that's it, somehow
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12:23 | second odd thing: I also cannot ssh to the server (anymore) from my desktop
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12:23 | I could before, because I'm sitting in an ssh session right now
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12:23 | <abeehc> hehe
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12:24 | ssh isn't listening on that new nic i guess
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12:24 | try restarting openssh-server?
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12:24 | <anivair> why was it before?
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12:24 | because ssh stopping was the reason I got into this mess in the first place
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12:24 | <abeehc> ssh shouldn't stop
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12:24 | look over the daemon.log?
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12:25 | or start from the beginning again as far as what poroblems you were having with ssh?
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12:25 | <anivair> restarted with no change.
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12:25 | long story (very) short
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12:25 | about 12:00 nobody could log in if they logged out
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12:25 | I hadn't rebooted in like 3 months, so I figured that would help
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12:25 | it did not
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12:26 | rather, it would let people in, but the network was terribly slow
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12:26 | so I figured maybe the nic had gone bad
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12:26 | changed to the new nic, everything worked
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12:26 | for 2 hours
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12:26 | and now it's starting again
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12:26 | (that's the abridged version ... the trade paperback is getting bad reviews)
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12:28 | <abeehc> it's hard to understand why ssh isn't listenning on that interface
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12:28 | if it's gone away recently, you should see something in /var/log/daemon.log
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12:28 | <anivair> well, it's a recent development, so there's that
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12:29 | <abeehc> in fact if ssh can't bind to eth1 it should say so in one of those logs
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12:29 | <anivair> sshd -d gives me a lot of bind failures
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12:30 | <abeehc> you might need to do /etc/init.d/ssh stop first
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12:30 | then try running it with -d maybe that'll be interesting
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12:30 | mind you if you have clients that are working you don't want to interrupt
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12:30 | we are getting close to messing them up
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12:30 | <anivair> I do, indeed, have clients that are working
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12:31 | I can return when they go home for the day, but I'm not sure what good it'll do, sadly.
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12:31 | <abeehc> what does ssh do when you tried from the client?
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12:31 | <anivair> hangs
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12:31 | <abeehc> try with -vvv
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12:31 | <anivair> I just get nothing
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12:31 | <abeehc> do you have nmap around?
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12:31 | <anivair> let me see how long i can get it to go
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12:31 | <abeehc> i imagine your pings times werent' bad
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12:32 | <anivair> I got in this time, but it was about 20 seconds
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12:32 | <abeehc> nmap to confirm that ssh is listening would be good probly
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12:32 | well that's a good thing
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12:32 | <anivair> i'm running it with a -vvv right now
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12:32 | <abeehc> take a look in the server auth.log maybe it'll also say something about that suceesful login and why it took 20seconds
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12:32 | <anivair> ah ha1
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12:33 | it's trying for the private key authentification first
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12:33 | that's probably the issue with ltsp
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12:34 | it's not wanting to wait that long
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12:34 | maybe
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12:35 | no how do i turn that off?
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12:35 | <abeehc> no i think you want it to do key auth first
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12:35 | i could be mistaken.. there are smarter pepople that will readh this log and come up with the answer
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12:36 | <anivair> hehe
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12:36 | well, i know that there's an authentication that slows ssh way down
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12:36 | RSAAuthentication, maybe?
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12:36 | <abeehc> sorry i got nothing
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12:36 | mine's pretty slow too
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12:36 | but I think that ltsp relies on priv key auth for the boot process
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12:37 | <anivair> drat
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12:37 | I thought I was getting it
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12:38 | <abeehc> i think ssh keys are still the most likely issue
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12:38 | <anivair> GSSAPIAuthentication, maybe?
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12:39 | <abeehc> in my experience with stock ubuntu you should not have to change anything like that
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12:39 | <anivair> that's my experience as well
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12:39 | <abeehc> i'm uyst seeing how i can confirm the ssh keys are correct in my thin clents
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12:40 | ok here's what i didn't ask
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12:40 | when you ssh from client to server, does ssh promtp you to trust the key??
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12:41 | <anivair> after I reboot, i th ink it does.
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12:42 | it asked me to trust the key to my machine
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12:42 | (I just managed to successfully ssh to the server, but again, it took a long time)
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12:42 | I'll reboot and try again and see
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12:43 | <abeehc> I think
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12:43 | if you do trust it, ldm login will work
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12:43 | until you reboot the client
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12:43 | and that means update-ssh-keys didn't work so well for you
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12:44 | which perhaps get back to ltsp-update-image? you need to do that after update-ssh-keys
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12:44 | <anivair> correction, it did not ask
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12:44 | <abeehc> ldm still no go?
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12:45 | are you running more than one arch
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12:45 | like your chroot before indicated amd64
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12:46 | <anivair> I built is --arch i386
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12:46 | that's the build command I gave it
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12:47 | is there an amd64 option?
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12:48 | <abeehc> i guess you server is x64?
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12:48 | <anivair> my clients are, I believe, i386 which is why I run that build
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12:48 | <abeehc> you could do amd64 clients but most don't
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12:48 | <anivair> yes
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12:48 | ooh, follow this bouncing logic: I just tried a normal login (on a machine I ran an ssh from) at the same time as an ssh on another client
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12:48 | the server rejection came back before the password prompt
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12:48 | so maybe it's just timing out?
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12:49 | <abeehc> what kind of reejction? it would have to be pretty crappy onthe network for it to timeout i'd think
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12:51 | <anivair> well, meaning that is the ssh connection takes, say, 45 seconds, and the login prompt only waits, say, 30 seconds for a server response, then it's never going to get my password
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12:51 | it'll drop into "no response from server" first
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12:51 | (if that makes any sense)
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12:52 | <abeehc> yeah
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12:53 | i assume your lts.conf is generic or even empty?
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12:54 | <anivair> the one in /opt is blank save for the generic xomment text that comes with it
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12:54 | the one in /var is not empty, but is geieric
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12:55 | I'm seeing some ubuntu talk about adding the machine you're looking for into the /etc/host file, but it should already be in there, so that's not useful for me
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12:55 | ooh ... except that the actual ip address isn't in there, just the loopback
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12:55 | <abeehc> yeah you should confirm that on the client, but
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12:55 | hello
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12:55 | lemme see what mine say
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12:56 | <anivair> not really sure what to add there to get it in
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12:56 | <abeehc> which hosts file?
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12:56 | the client?
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12:56 | <anivair> yeah
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12:56 | er, no
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12:56 | server
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12:56 | /etc/hosts
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12:56 | <abeehc> ok sec
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12:56 | <anivair> though I'll check the client, too
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12:56 | <abeehc> ok
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12:57 | here's what mine are
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12:58 | <anivair> on the client is has the ip in there as "server"
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12:58 | on the host, it's not there
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12:58 | <abeehc> that sounds correct and consistent with mine
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12:58 | http://pastebin.com/484j9J4z
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12:58 | the server one is important
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12:58 | in fact when i asked you to ssh form the client earlier, did you use "server" as the hostname?
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12:59 | <anivair> nope, i used the ip address
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13:00 | <abeehc> try the hostname i think that is important
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13:03 | <abeehc> like i say when the other timezones roll by smarter people will be able to suggest things sorry i couldn't help much
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13:03 | gotta get goin home gl toyou
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13:04 | <anivair> FYI: asked me if I wanted to add it to known hosts, took about a minute again and let me in
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13:04 | still no login from the gdm screen
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13:04 | thanks for the help, though
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13:11 | if anyone else out there has any ideas, I'll gladly hear them.
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13:16 | <dan_l> anyone that can help with mounting a homedir using nbd?
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17:04 | <dan_l> help with mounting an nbd home directory?
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17:08 | <HrdwrBoB_> why are you using nbd home?
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17:10 | <dan_l> alkisg suggested this solution. We are running in something close to kiosk mode. Multiple users would mount the homedir with the cow option and get authorized from a gtk login box against remote server
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17:13 | <dan_l> So far - I created a 78M filesystem w/dd and mke2fs. Mounted it in loopback mode, rsynced the homedir contents to it. unmounted.
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17:14 | then "nbd-server 9085 /opt/ltsp/images/tfhome.img"
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17:14 | from the client "nbd-client hostname 9085 /dev/nbd1"
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22:47 | <mum_> how to show local hardisk in kisk mode
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23:37 | <mum_> #ubuntu
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