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Channel log from 3 May 2010 (all times are UTC)
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| 00:32 | <mikedep333> hey, I'm running ubuntu 10.04. I want to enable guest login I have LDM_GUESTLOGIN = True , however, it fails to login
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| 00:32 | I was going to install ltsp-manager, but I am doing proxydhcp and it wants to install the dhcp server and ltsp-server-standalone
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| 00:33 | <alkisg> mikedep333: did you also use LDM_USERNAME and LDM_PASSWORD?
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| 00:33 | <mikedep333> no
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| 00:33 | <alkisg> !lts.conf
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| 00:33 | <ltspbot> alkisg: "lts.conf" :: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf
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| 00:33 | <mikedep333> ok, I'll look there
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| 00:33 | <alkisg> Read the variables there, it explains how it works
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| 00:34 | <mikedep333> ok, I had simply done googling
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| 00:34 | <alkisg> You can create a user with username==password==hostname instead
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| 00:34 | E.g. ltsp12/ltsp12
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| 00:34 | <mikedep333> I thought the hostname was auto-generated each time
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| 00:34 | <alkisg> You can pin it down from lts.conf
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| 00:34 | <mikedep333> ok
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| 00:35 | <vagrantc> LDM_USERNAME and LDM_PASSWORD default to the machine's host name
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| 00:37 | which is often autogenerated as ltspNNN where NNN is some number based on the ip address
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| 00:37 | <alkisg> ...and can be pinned down to a specific entry if one is using proxydhcp and can't control the IPs offered by his dhcp server :)
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| 00:38 | <mikedep333> I think I know what you're saying, but I want all my thin clients to be able to have a guest login
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| 00:38 | and I don't want autologin
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| 00:38 | I want regular login or guest login
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| 00:38 | <vagrantc> you'll need a different user for each thin-client for guest login
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| 00:39 | <mikedep333> oh
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| 00:39 | there isn't anyway to work around that?
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| 00:39 | <vagrantc> there are lots of ways to inflict pain on yourself, yes.
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| 00:39 | <mikedep333> lol, good point
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| 00:39 | <alkisg> [11:22:33:44:55:66]
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| 00:39 | HOSTNAME=pc1
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| 00:39 | Put entries like that one in your lts.conf
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| 00:39 | <mikedep333> ok, thanks
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| 00:39 | <alkisg> ...and create users with pc1/pc1
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| 00:40 | This way you'll get both static hostnames and you won't need to specify LDM_USERNAME/LDM_PASSWORD
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| 00:40 | <vagrantc> ah, right.
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| 00:41 | <mikedep333> you mean I should add usernames the regular way? like with gnome or with useradd?
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| 00:41 | <alkisg> Yes
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| 00:41 | <mikedep333> ok, thanks
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| 00:42 | <vagrantc> i've been wishing to figure out a way to do autogenerated users, rather than having to add them manually
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| 00:43 | the other trick i want is to be able to have guest logins login as fatclients and named users login as thin clients, or vice-versa.
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| 00:44 | <mikedep333> yeah, that sounds really cool
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| 00:44 | <alkisg> if one sets the ltsp hostname to be generated based on mac address, then it's easy to auto-create users
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| 00:44 | (there's a setting in lts.conf for that)
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| 00:44 | <mikedep333> honestly, I am just messing around with ltsp, I am a network admin at an engineering fraternity with a handful of public computers
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| 00:44 | <vagrantc> alkisg: i meant autogenerate the accounts on the server
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| 00:45 | <alkisg> vagrantc, yup
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| 00:45 | <vagrantc> alkisg: how is it easier if based on mac address?
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| 00:46 | <alkisg> vagrantc: it needs #users == # pcs
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| 00:46 | instead of #users == #dhcp range
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| 00:46 | (which can be millions on 10.x.x.x)
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| 00:46 | <vagrantc> ah.
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| 00:46 | what i *meant* was to generate the accounts on login :)
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| 00:46 | <alkisg> Yup - that's the easy part
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| 00:47 | brb, need to make milk for the kids :)
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| 00:47 | <mikedep333> wait, I think I misunderstood
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| 00:47 | * vagrantc is going to turn in for the night | |
| 00:47 | <mikedep333> you mean I can automatically have people login as pc1/pc1 when the machine is named pc1, without specifying that for every single pc?
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| 00:47 | <vagrantc> mikedep333: there's a lot of options. you probably understood just fine. :)
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| 00:48 | <mikedep333> oh, autologin
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| 00:48 | <vagrantc> mikedep333: LDM_USERNAME and LDM_PASSWORD get set to whatever the host name is... so if you're handing out DNS for all your machines it should work that way.
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| 00:48 | mikedep333: autologin and guestlogin are basically the same, except guestlogin allows for user's who actually have a known account to login.
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| 00:49 | <mikedep333> yeah
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| 00:49 | is there anyway to dynamically generate username = password = hostname?
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| 00:49 | <vagrantc> and then there's LDM_LOGIN_TIMEOUT too...
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| 00:50 | mikedep333: apparently alkisg has some ideas how to do that
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| 00:50 | have fun :)
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| 00:50 | <mikedep333> yup, thanks
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| 00:55 | <alkisg> mikedep333: the start is to define HOSTNAME_EXTRA=mac in lts.conf
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| 00:55 | Then you automatically get "static hostnames" for all your clients
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| 00:55 | Then you just need to create those users
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| 00:56 | If you have them running you can just run arp once to find out their mac addresses,
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| 00:56 | but you can also create them dynamically if you hook into some script
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| 00:56 | For ubuntu, one hook point may be nbdrootd, where the clients connect to get the virtual disk
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| 00:57 | So in nbdrootd you just arp to convert the ip to a mac address, and generate a user with the client hostname if that doesn't already exist
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| 00:57 | For vagrantc (fat clients) another hook point can be avahi, which provides both the hostname and the mac address
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| 00:58 | ...and of course you could setup some pam rule to autogenerate the user name if it starts from ltsp*
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| 00:58 | (there's a pam* module for that, let me see...)
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| 01:00 | <mikedep333> actually, I just created what I wanted
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| 01:00 | I created a user account through gnome (and had to set the password via the CLI) to guest/guest
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| 01:00 | then I did LDM_GUESTLOGIN = True, LDM_USERNAME = guest & LDM_PASSWORD = guest
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| 01:01 | <alkisg> Sure, but that only works for 1 pc
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| 01:01 | You can't logon many users with the same username/password
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| 01:01 | <mikedep333> no, I did that under [DEFAULT]
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| 01:01 | oh
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| 01:01 | <alkisg> (08:38:12 πμ) vagrantc: you'll need a different user for each thin-client for guest login
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| 01:01 | (08:38:28 πμ) mikedep333: oh
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| 01:01 | (08:38:41 πμ) mikedep333: there isn't anyway to work around that?
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| 01:01 | (08:38:53 πμ) vagrantc: there are lots of ways to inflict pain on yourself, yes.
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| 01:02 | <mikedep333> I figured I could do that because I've had 1 of each local ,NX, and LDM sessions all going at once for my username (mike)
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| 01:03 | <alkisg> Try to run firefox. It won't start.
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| 01:04 | <mikedep333> that's fine, I have chromium
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| 01:04 | <alkisg> It's not an ltsp problem; gnome and other programs assume only one user is logged on
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| 01:04 | You'll see other problems; it's not only firefox
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| 01:04 | <mikedep333> ok, thanks
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| 01:05 | say, how much RAM does an LTSP client need by default?
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| 01:05 | it seemed like my 128MB client just barely couldn't handle it
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| 01:07 | <alkisg> 64 MB is the lower limit, with no localapps etc
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| 01:09 | <mikedep333> hmm, I hope there wasn't a regression in lucid
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| 01:14 | * alkisg thinks 9.04 was the more stable version of ubuntu that he tried so far.. | |
| 01:25 | <mikedep333> when I go to build virtualbox-ose-dkms (the kernel module portion of the virtualbox guest utils,) within the chroot, it fails to build the module
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| 01:25 | let me look at the other dkms articles
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| 01:26 | <alkisg> If you do that do post how you did it, it'll useful for many people
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| 01:31 | <mikedep333> yeah, I was just thinking that
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| 01:31 | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/AtomIon
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| 01:31 | this article suggests that it was different in 9.10
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| 01:31 | it looks like they never had to install linux-headers-generic
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| 01:31 | I had to install them
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| 01:32 | <alkisg> Maybe nvidia depends on -headers and it was done automatically
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| 01:32 | <mikedep333> yeah
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| 01:33 | I was at least able to get the x11 driver installed
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| 01:33 | so I get better resolutions
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| 01:33 | should I at least post that?
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| 01:34 | I don't know if half-complete articles should be in the wiki
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| 01:38 | <alkisg> Sure, do post it.
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| 01:38 | How did you do it? installing dkms manually?
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| 01:39 | (or you could post it in the mailing list, that'd also help)
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| 01:40 | <mikedep333> I think virtualbox-ose-dms depended on dkms, but not linux-headers-generic
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| 01:40 | <alkisg> (btw you can tell vbox to provide e.g. 1120x720 as a custom vesa resolution)
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| 01:40 | <mikedep333> *virtualbox-ose-dkms
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| 01:40 | <alkisg> (so you can get a nice resolution without installing anything in the chroot)
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| 01:40 | <mikedep333> cool
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| 01:41 | in the virtualbox options?
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| 01:41 | <alkisg> With the command line
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| 01:41 | See the vbox .pdf
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| 01:41 | <mikedep333> gotcha
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| 01:41 | I'm not too fussy about resolutions in virtualbox
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| 01:41 | <alkisg> VBoxManage setextradata ltsp4 "CustomVideoMode1" "1024x600x16"
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| 01:41 | something like that...
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| 01:41 | <mikedep333> I have a nice 1920x1200 display, got it for only $100 used
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| 01:42 | USD
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| 01:42 | <alkisg> Nice :)
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| 01:42 | <mikedep333> I'm actually run ning windows 7 on my desktop, uxing Xming to do remote X to my server
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| 01:43 | it makes the windows the size of your windows desktop minus the taskbar
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| 01:43 | <alkisg> Is that better than nx?
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| 01:43 | <Mava> whoa, that sort of display would also go in my desktop =)
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| 01:43 | <mikedep333> well, it's faster because there's no compression or encryption, on my gigabit lan at least
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| 01:43 | * alkisg is using neatx for remote desktops, but he isn't using windows currently | |
| 01:43 | <mikedep333> I have nx setup also
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| 01:43 | <alkisg> neatx? or freenx?
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| 01:43 | <mikedep333> neatx
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| 01:43 | the freenx ppa only has neatx for lucid
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| 01:43 | <alkisg> Yeah, that's cool
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| 01:44 | <mikedep333> surprisingly, neatx works immediately after installation
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| 01:44 | no configuration necessary
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| 01:44 | <alkisg> Yeah I hope people continue working on that...
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| 01:44 | <mikedep333> just make sure you don't enable folder sharing in the client or whatever because it doesn't support it and will make it fail to connect
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| 01:44 | <alkisg> (e.g. suspend/resume session have problems now)
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| 01:44 | <mikedep333> however, Xming does not support clipboard sharing for remote sessions. NX client /neatx does
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| 01:45 | it's funny, I have so many ways to access my server
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| 01:45 | there's gnome VNC remote desktop (which isn't working properly)
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| 01:46 | <alkisg> Doesn't xming use ssh -X to connect?
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| 01:46 | <mikedep333> neatx
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| 01:46 | <alkisg> Or it uses xdmcp?
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| 01:46 | <mikedep333> xdmcp
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| 01:46 | and ltsp
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| 01:46 | <Appiah> xming can use ssh -X andd xdmcp
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| 01:46 | -d
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| 01:46 | <mikedep333> Xming can do either
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| 01:46 | the xming - query hostname isn't documented though
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| 01:46 | <alkisg> Ah, cool then. So you can watch even video on LAN...
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| 01:46 | <mikedep333> I found out about it on a launchpad bug report
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| 01:46 | *xming -query hostname
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| 01:46 | video runs ok
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| 01:46 | 480p works fine
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| 01:47 | just running it off youtube
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| 01:47 | oh, this is really cool
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| 01:47 | install and run tumiki-fighters over LTSP
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| 01:47 | it works surprisingly well
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| 01:47 | it's a 3d game, but it uses solid textures
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| 01:47 | it has very simple but aesthetically pleasing graphics
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| 01:48 | it even runs in virtualbox without 3d acceleration
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| 01:48 | with the standard vesa driver
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| 01:48 | *virtualbox as the ltsp client
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| 01:50 | did ubuntu merge the -generic and -smp kernels into just -generic?
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| 01:51 | <Appiah> haha r-type + katamari? :)
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| 01:51 | <mikedep333> yeah
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| 01:51 | search for "kenta cho" in the description fields of synaptic
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| 01:51 | they guy makes lots of cool solid/translucent textures games
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| 01:52 | http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~cs8k-cyu/index_e.html
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| 01:52 | look at the windows section, I believe those are all available for linux
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| 01:52 | torus-trooper is another favorite of mine
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| 01:52 | tumiki-fighters is a wiiware game now too
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| 01:57 | wait, ltsp thin clients use linux-generic, right?
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| 01:59 | yeah, they do
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| 02:03 | well I'm going to make something to eat, bbl
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| 02:05 | <gnunux> hi
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| 02:34 | <mikedep333> hello gnunux
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| 04:31 | <AlTeeAsP> morning all
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| 04:31 | could someone walk me throught prniter configuration?
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| 04:31 | printer is on the ltsp client
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| 04:32 | client is taking a static ip via dhcp
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| 04:32 | printer is in ltsp.conf tied to mac address
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| 04:32 | what else is left?
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| 04:32 | <Appiah> umm
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| 04:32 | so the printer is not on USB?
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| 04:33 | <AlTeeAsP> Appiah: serial
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| 04:33 | its an hp 4l
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| 04:34 | <Appiah> pastebin your lts.conf
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| 04:35 | <AlTeeAsP> http://fpaste.org/aH6A/
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| 04:36 | <Appiah> PRINTER_0_TYPE = ?
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| 04:36 | <AlTeeAsP> when i telnet the ip and port it fails
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| 04:36 | <Appiah> P for serial , U for USB
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| 04:36 | no wait
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| 04:36 | <AlTeeAsP> .
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| 04:36 | <Appiah> S for Serial :D
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| 04:37 | P for parallel
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| 04:37 | U for USB
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| 04:37 | <AlTeeAsP> so befre the line PRINTER_0_DEVICE = /dev/lp0 i have to say PRINTER_0_TYPE = S ?
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| 04:37 | <Appiah> after
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| 04:37 | well if the order matters I have no idea
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| 04:38 | <AlTeeAsP> Appiah: i have to reboot the client dont i? :/
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| 04:39 | <Appiah> yes lts.conf loads at boot if I'm not mistaken
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| 04:44 | <AlTeeAsP> Appiah: dint work :(
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| 04:44 | <Appiah> well then I'm out of ideas
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| 07:18 | <frederickjh> Hi all! I am looking to up grade my LTSP server that we are using at home. It is a P4 3.2Ghz. Things have slowed down considerable upgrading to ltsp-5 so I am wondering if anyone out there has any advice regarding performance differences between Intel DualCore (multiple cores) and Intel Core 2 Duo (multiple processors).
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| 07:19 | That is performance on a LTSP system. Or if you have a favorite processor why?
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| 07:25 | No, takers?
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| 07:27 | <Appiah> I have yet to see any benchmarks
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| 07:30 | <frederickjh> I have seen the bench marks over on www.cpubenchmark.net however I also saw this webpage https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ltsp/index.php?title=Ltsp_ServerSizing about server sizing.
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| 07:32 | <Appiah> I meant, benchmarks on ltsp setups
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| 07:32 | <frederickjh> However, he says the dualcores were new then and he did not have an experience so I was wondering if anyone did have any experience.
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| 07:33 | <Appiah> "This article is out of date. It should be updated to reflect the current state of LTSP"
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| 07:33 | it says 64bit CPU's are new
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| 07:33 | <frederickjh> yah
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| 07:38 | <frederickjh> You do not know of a better webpage with system sizing info do you?
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| 07:38 | <Appiah> no
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| 08:34 | <michiel_e> how can I debug scp-remote -U?
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| 08:35 | from a couple of months ago, I remember it's using DBUS to list the sessions
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| 08:35 | but scp-remote -U doesn't give me any logged in sessions anymore
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| 08:35 | on Ubuntu Karmic
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| 08:36 | although on intrepid that command works
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| 08:36 | <Appiah> scp-remote? O_o never seen
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| 08:37 | <michiel_e> ah, is student control panel
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| 08:37 | strace give com.ubuntu.StudentControlPanel
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| 08:38 | then I guess the client chroot is not complete ;)
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| 08:41 | what command do you mostly use when listing LTSP sessions?
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| 08:41 | w and who does give them, but gives not complete information
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| 09:56 | <sbalneav> Morning all!
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| 09:57 | <jammcq> Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 09:58 | <sbalneav> Heya
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| 09:58 | <cliebow> Trout!!!
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| 09:58 | * sbalneav wriggles his fins | |
| 09:58 | <cliebow> That has to be one of this decade's highlights
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| 09:59 | <sbalneav> Wait 'till this year. My stories, like fine wine, get better with age :)
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| 09:59 | <jammcq> :)
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| 09:59 | <thunsucker> Gadi: good morning, finally got a chance to upgrade alsa to work on my sound issues
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| 09:59 | Gadi: now there is no sound at all
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| 09:59 | <cliebow> perhaps not just the story..the ambiance...the lobster..the scotvh..
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| 10:01 | <jammcq> and the gale force winds
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| 10:07 | <rjune> jammcq, hey
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| 10:08 | <jammcq> hey rjune
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| 10:08 | <rjune> jammcq, I need to chat with you, are you near a phone?
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| 10:12 | <thunsucker> has anyone upgraded alsa in their chroots?
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| 11:23 | <vagrantc> whoah. sounds like some big changes for ldm...
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| 11:24 | stgraber: pretty major rewrites?
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| 11:24 | <stgraber> vagrantc: yep
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| 11:25 | vagrantc: I completely forgot to send that to the ML ... the work on that is over for like 5 weeks or so ;)
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| 11:25 | <vagrantc> debian still hasn't frozen yet... but it's "any day now" and major changes are somewhat frowned upon...
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| 11:25 | <stgraber> it really behaves the same way, it should just be a lot easier to work with in the future (especially with Scotty's work on pam/dbus/ssh)
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| 11:25 | yeah, I went without it for 10.04 as it's LTS, I'll have it included in 10.10 though
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| 11:26 | I wanted something we know is stable and well working in 10.04 and keep the new stuff for 10.10
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| 11:26 | what releases of ltsp and ldm are you going to have in the next Debian stable ?
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| 11:26 | <vagrantc> yeah. in general, same for debian...
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| 11:26 | <stgraber> (just wondering if we are in sync there)
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| 11:27 | <vagrantc> stgraber: i'm one version ahead of you in ltsp/ldm
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| 11:27 | <stgraber> ah right, I saw you tagged recently
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| 11:27 | <vagrantc> stgraber: mostly translations and a fairly important bugfix to ltsp-update-sshkeys you should get in your first point release for lucid
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| 11:27 | <stgraber> so you don't have the ltsp-update-sshkeys mess ;)
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| 11:27 | I had to do some pretty ugly workarounds in d-i and the live installer for that thing ;)
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| 11:28 | <vagrantc> while you worked around it in d-i, it might mess things up when they reboot the server too
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| 11:28 | at least, that was my experience...
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| 11:28 | <stgraber> it shouldn't, I'm basically starting ssh, doing keyscan, killing ssh
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| 11:28 | oh
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| 11:28 | <vagrantc> you make sure it doesn't run on initial boot?
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| 11:28 | <stgraber> so that ifup trigger is breaking things ?
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| 11:28 | <vagrantc> yeah
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| 11:28 | at least it was for me
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| 11:28 | <stgraber> well, good thing is that we don't use nfs ;)
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| 11:29 | <vagrantc> hah!
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| 11:29 | <stgraber> so it's not broken, it breaks only if they do ltsp-update-image :)
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| 11:29 | but I think I ran ltsp-update-image a few times without major breakage
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| 11:29 | <vagrantc> the likelihood of running ltsp-update-image before sshd starting is small in your scenario then
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| 11:29 | <stgraber> I'll see how it goes on Launchpad and if needed will do some SRUs
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| 11:29 | though most of my users are running with my PPA and so will get .2 whenever it's released
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| 11:30 | <vagrantc> i'd push for fixing it just because it is pretty ugly...
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| 11:30 | <stgraber> (SRUs are not very fun to do, backport in PPA is much simpler ;))
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| 11:30 | yeah, I saw that ltsp-update-sshkeys got reverted to its old way of working but it was already RC or final freeze, so it wasn't likely I could get that in
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| 11:31 | <vagrantc> i know how that goes
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| 11:33 | stgraber: any new build-deps for your ldm branch?
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| 11:34 | <stgraber> that's a very good question ;) I have basolutely no idea, I don't think so as it's all regular gtk and sbalneav's window manager was probably only xlib or similar.
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| 11:35 | <vagrantc> lot of merge conflicts with ldm-trunk ...
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| 11:36 | which, i guess is because it just changed the way a lot of things work...
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| 11:37 | ah, it was branched before 2.1
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| 11:37 | <stgraber> that and the branch is relatively old
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| 11:37 | yeah
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| 11:37 | so there's some merging to do
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| 11:37 | <vagrantc> sounds like there's significant enough changes to call it 2.2.x
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| 11:37 | <stgraber> I don't think the upstream C code changed that much
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| 11:38 | yep, I'd clearly go with 2.2 for that branch as it'll probably be the LDM for LTSP 6 (or whatever we call it at this point, that's the DBUS-aware LTSP)
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| 11:38 | <vagrantc> dbus aware? whoah.
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| 11:39 | <sbalneav> The ssh-lib based pam module sort-of-works, I need to get it to spawn off the ssh now.
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| 11:54 | <johnny> uggh evo.. why did you have to go get more annoying than you already were :(
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| 11:54 | <vagrantc> stgraber: first try failed to build...
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| 11:54 | <johnny> the ctrl + / shortcut disappeared, and now messages don't mark themselves as read on initial click
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| 11:54 | i'm going to have file some bugs
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| 11:55 | <vagrantc> Making check in po
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| 11:55 | make[2]: Entering directory `/tmp/buildd/ldm-2.2.0~20100503~1/po'
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| 11:55 | make[2]: *** No rule to make target `../src/get_ip.c', needed by `ldm.pot'. Stop.
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| 11:55 | huh?
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| 11:55 | was the i18n support rewritten?
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| 11:56 | ah, it seems the POTFILES.in is hard-coded, and get_ip.c is no longer present...
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| 12:04 | and now it fails because some aren't in POTFILES.in ...
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| 12:05 | you'd think you could avoid having a hard-coded list of files if it was smart enough to fail when some aren't listed, and then only specify excludes...
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| 12:06 | ldm 2.1 was sure short-lived...
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| 12:07 | well, after straightening out the POTFILES.in issues... it sucessfully built...
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| 12:10 | <thunsucker> I upgraded alsa and now audio died :)
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| 12:46 | <vagrantc> stgraber: initial impressions: basically can log in, alt-p doesn't bring up the preferences menu, rdesktop didn't work (i didn't do any configuration), attempting to select language from the preferences menu kills ldm, selecting session from the menu crashes the thin client, and the username login window doesn't consistantly return to center
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| 12:46 | stgraber: does this automatically configure the libpam-ssh type stuff?
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| 13:57 | <sbalneav> stgraber: heh, just followed up to your post on #ltsp-develop
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| 14:52 | <abeehc> also lets me fire up x11vnc as neccesary which is pretty freakin often as i'm normaly remote
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| 14:52 | saddsa
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| 14:54 | <lfaraone> Hi, I upgraded to Ubuntu Lucid and now I get "Failed to connect to NBD server" when booting from the chroot. Any idea why?
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| 14:54 | <alkisg> Multiple dhcp servers?
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| 15:26 | <stgraber> vagrantc: seems like you had a lot of success there ;) currently ssh is as ugly as it was before, though the splitting into different "plugins" will make the switch and development easier as we'll just work on another module to use sbalneav's new stuff rather than breaking ldm-trunk completely ;)
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| 15:26 | vagrantc: though it seems like I'll need to do quite a bit of testing on that new ldm when I get back to Canada (currently traveling from Switzerland to France and then to Belgium, so not exactly easy to do LTSP dev ;))
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| 15:27 | <vagrantc> stgraber: yeah. plugins are generally a good thing.
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| 15:52 | <sbalneav> stgraber: excuses excuses :)
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| 15:52 | Enjoying the trip?
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| 15:52 | Ah, spring in the alps of Switzerland!
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| 15:53 | * sbalneav dreams of running through mountain meadows | |
| 15:53 | <stgraber> hehe :)
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| 15:53 | <jammcq> reminds me of the play we saw on broad way
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| 15:53 | remember the song?
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| 15:53 | <sbalneav> Oh the hiiiiills are aliiiiiiiive with the sooooooound of muuuuuuuuuuuusic
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| 15:53 | <jammcq> no...
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| 15:53 | "Springtime for Hitler"
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| 15:53 | <sbalneav> LOL
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| 15:54 | uuuuuula
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| 15:54 | <jammcq> yep
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| 15:54 | <stgraber> sbalneav: yep, a week and a half with the family here, then half a week in Paris at a colleague and finally UDS in Brussels. And I dind't even have to pay for that :)
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| 15:54 | <jammcq> stgraber: did you see any of the ash cloud ?
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| 15:55 | <stgraber> sbalneav: also, Brussels seems like a very good choice for a UDS, beer is supposed to be great there ;)
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| 15:55 | <sbalneav> Mmmmmm beer
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| 15:55 | * jammcq hasn't had good belgium beer since.... Saturday | |
| 15:55 | <sbalneav> LOL
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| 15:55 | <stgraber> jammcq: nope, though I traveled three days after they allowed allowed planes to fly again so airports where a bit crowded :)
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| 15:55 | jammcq: hehe ;)
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| 15:55 | <jammcq> ah
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| 15:56 | I'll be enjoying some brazilian beer later this week :)
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| 15:57 | <stgraber> jammcq: hehe, btw, we are now a registered company in Brazil and have an office there opened since last week ;)
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| 15:57 | <jammcq> wow, that's cool
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| 15:57 | I'll be in Joao Pessoa, which is the eastern-most point in south america
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| 15:58 | <stgraber> oh, cool.
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| 15:59 | that's quite far from our office though ;) we are in Florianopolis, Santa Catarina
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| 16:01 | <jammcq> there's a few accents that are supposed to be on top of some of those letters, but being an american, I don't have a clue
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| 16:01 | don't have a clue how to put those accents there, that is. I hope I have a clue about at least some things
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| 16:02 | <stgraber> Florianópolis that'd be
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| 16:02 | and João Pessoa
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| 16:02 | <jammcq> yeah
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| 16:03 | <stgraber> though these two I'm not sure how to make with the us-intl keyboard ;)
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| 16:03 | I know for the french accents but we don't have these two ones :)
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| 16:06 | <stgraber> ó (altgr+o), easy enough and ã (altgr+~+a), that one was tricky to find ;)
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| 16:07 | <highvoltage> holas
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| 16:08 | <stgraber> hey highvoltage
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| 16:11 | <highvoltage> hey stgraber, any new things planned for ltsp over the next few months?
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| 16:13 | <stgraber> highvoltage: well, having the new ldm would be a good start, then sbalneav's work to be merged as well and I'd hope to have some ltsp-cluster magic merged into ltsp too
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| 16:16 | <highvoltage> yes the new ldm sounds like it has a lot of potential
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| 16:27 | <jammcq> stgraber: since your company has a presence in brazil, you should join us there for FISL-11 on July 20th
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| 16:28 | <stgraber> jammcq: do you already have a ltsp session planned there ?
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| 16:28 | <jammcq> presentation or hackfest?
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| 16:28 | scotty will probably be doing a presentation
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| 16:29 | i'll just be attending
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| 16:29 | if we have enough ltsp people, we can do a hackfest. enough = 1 or more
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| 16:30 | <stgraber> jammcq: I initially wanted to attend last year but it was a bit late and I had some other things at that time so couldn't make it (though my brazilian colleague was there)
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| 16:30 | <jammcq> I don't think the call-for-papers is out yet
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| 16:30 | but will be very soon
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| 16:30 | you could talk about ltsp-cluster
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| 16:30 | <stgraber> jammcq: I know that I won't be able to go to two other conferences this summer so I might be able to attend that one, I'll see what's the status of the CFP and maybe propose ltsp-cluster
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| 16:31 | <jammcq> yep
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| 16:31 | good idea :)
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| 16:33 | <stgraber> seems like the end of the rfp period is this saturday ;)
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| 16:33 | <jammcq> well... there ya go
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| 16:42 | <stgraber> ok, I have a speaker account created and sent an e-mail internally to our guy in Brazil and the guys in Canada who can let me go for a week in Brazil ;)
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| 16:42 | just need to wait now ;)
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| 16:43 | at least, I'm one of the few who can get there without any visa so that's great for last-minute trips ;)
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| 16:43 | <jammcq> yeah
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| 16:43 | i've spent a small fortune on travel visas to brazil
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| 16:43 | now I have a 5-yr visa
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| 16:43 | so it's much easier
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| 20:27 | <sbalneav> Evening all
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| 21:27 | <jammcq> sbalneav: Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 21:27 | <sbalneav> jammcq!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 21:47 | <highvoltage> Scotty and Jim!!!!!!!!11one1cos(0)!1 beam me up!
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| 21:48 | <jammcq> highvoltage: hey
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| 21:48 | <jammcq> up early?
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| 21:49 | <highvoltage> yep, 4:46am.
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| 21:49 | <sbalneav> highvoltage: see my question in edubuntu!
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| 21:49 | <highvoltage> I have a slight throat infection which isn't all that bad but I've just been coughing and woke up :/
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| 21:49 | sbalneav: ok
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| 21:50 | <sbalneav> Yuk! sorry to hear that
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