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Channel log from 23 March 2007 (all times are UTC)
| 00:07 | <PMantis> There... my first file ready for download on SF
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| 00:08 | <mistik1> sweet
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| 00:09 | <PMantis> ok bed time.
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| 00:09 | can't take it any more.
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| 00:10 | have a great night/morning. :)
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| 06:07 | <str4nd> ogra_: I have a problem, thin clients with matrox vga cards doesn't work (I don't know is it because that card). They boot but ldm doesn't show up.
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| 06:07 | (again)
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| 06:09 | <sep> str4nd, what driver is beeing tried ?
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| 06:10 | <str4nd> hmph, i dont know :p
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| 06:12 | <sep> str4nd, you can set a password for root inside the chroot. then you can login on the client and look at the autogenerated X config file
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| 06:12 | lunch !
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| 06:13 | <str4nd> ye
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| 06:14 | Monday is next day when I can look the X config
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| 07:14 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> jammcq: hey
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| 07:14 | <jammcq> g'morning kaminski-ltsp-br
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| 07:15 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> jammcq: good morning.. I saw, you are confirmed at fisl ;)
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| 07:16 | <jammcq> yessir
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| 07:16 | looking forward to it
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| 07:17 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> the churrascaria is confirmed
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| 07:17 | <jammcq> always
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| 07:18 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> ;)
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| 07:22 | <cliebow_> churrascaria
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| 07:22 | <jammcq> chuck knows
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| 07:30 | <cliebow_> i know not to eat so much next time..^_^
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| 07:31 | <jammcq> why not?
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| 07:32 | <cliebow_> i was in serious distress...getting to the airport..
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| 07:32 | <jammcq> that just takes careful planning
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| 07:32 | <cliebow_> and someone not living in the convenience station
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| 07:43 | <envite> ¡Hola a todos desde España!
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| 07:43 | Hello all from Spain!
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| 07:52 | <arowanaj> error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally bleh
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| 08:03 | <arowanaj> anyone here?
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| 08:09 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> jammcq: when are you comming to brazil?
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| 08:10 | <jammcq> I'll be arriving on April 11th
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| 08:11 | <arowanaj> have someone got this message when u write ltsp-build-clien? : I: Extracting zlib1g...
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| 08:11 | error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally
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| 08:17 | <envite> arowanaj: maybe the file you're using is corrupted
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| 08:18 | <arowanaj> hmm, so i must deinstall ltsp then =/
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| 08:19 | hmm, how did u install ltsp? Via synaptics or source?
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| 08:22 | <envite> none of them
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| 08:23 | I installed ltspadmin
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| 08:23 | <arowanaj> oh
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| 08:23 | <envite> and then I let it download the precompiled ltsp4.2
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| 08:23 | are you trying ltsp 5 or 4?
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| 08:23 | <arowanaj> ok, hmm, maybe I should try that then
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| 08:23 | 5
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| 08:25 | <cliebow_> you can not use ltspadmin for ltsp5
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| 08:26 | <arowanaj> i know. But I deinstall ltsp5 and install ltspadmin and let that do the work. Maybe it will work. =)
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| 08:32 | <envite> no
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| 08:33 | ltsp 4 and ltsp 5 are quite different systems
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| 08:33 | in 4 you download a whole precompiled distro-independent system
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| 08:34 | in 5 you build a distro-dependent system like (but it is not) a chroot
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| 08:36 | <arowanaj> I think i should try 4 Think it's better documentation for that to
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| 08:36 | maybe
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| 08:38 | <sbalneav> Morning all
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| 08:40 | <arowanaj> morning? =)
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| 08:40 | <sbalneav> Morning here.
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| 08:43 | <arowanaj> oh, where do u live?
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| 08:52 | <sbalneav> Canada. Winnipeg, Manitoba, to be exact.
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| 09:01 | <envite> morning sbalneav
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| 09:01 | <sbalneav> Morning
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| 09:16 | <jammcq> !sbalneav
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| 09:16 | <ltspbot> jammcq: "sbalneav" is Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 09:18 | <ogra> haha
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| 09:18 | slacker
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| 09:18 | <jammcq> yeah, i've got a macro now, so it's fewer keystrokes
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| 09:18 | <ogra> :)
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| 09:25 | <sbalneav> !ogra
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| 09:25 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: Error: "ogra" is not a valid command.
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| 09:25 | <sbalneav> ltspbot: learn ogra as ogra!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 09:25 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: The operation succeeded.
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| 09:25 | <jammcq> sbalneav: file a bug report on that
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| 09:25 | <sbalneav> !ogra
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| 09:25 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: "ogra" is ogra!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 09:26 | <arowanaj> oh, have someone test the webmin-module for ltsp ? =)
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| 09:36 | <MrChicken> Hello
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| 09:36 | Me again =)
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| 09:37 | This time I'm trying to build LBE
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| 09:37 | I have FC4 with gcc 4
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| 09:37 | however when I try to compile lbe, I get a msg whinning about gcc thatm ust be between 3.2 and 3.4
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| 09:38 | any workaround that does not involve me having to break everything (cuz everything depends on gcc)
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| 09:38 | <sbalneav> Remind me again, what are you trying to build the LBE for?
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| 09:39 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> MrChicken: hi
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| 09:39 | <MrChicken> sbalneav ... in order to be able to compile a SIP client
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| 09:39 | kaminski-ltsp-br -> Hey
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| 09:39 | and make it work locally
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| 09:40 | <sbalneav> Why don't you install ltsp5 under something like ubuntu
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| 09:40 | <MrChicken> KPhone is not a standard part of the LTSP package, so we needed to build it inside the local stations' root filesystem that is NFS-mounted from the server at boot time. Building software for the terminals' root filesystem requires LBE (see Resources).
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| 09:40 | From: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8165
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| 09:40 | <sbalneav> then you could just do an "chroot /opt/ltsp/i386"
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| 09:40 | apt-get install kphone.
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| 09:41 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> jammcq: wich hotel?
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| 09:42 | wh
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| 09:42 | at porto alegre
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| 09:43 | <MrChicken> sbalneav --> yeah, but apt wont work
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| 09:43 | neither will rpm
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| 09:43 | :P
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| 09:43 | <sbalneav> Sure it will
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| 09:44 | I've done it.
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| 09:44 | <MrChicken> bash-2.05b# yum
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| 09:44 | bash: yum: command not found
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| 09:44 | bash-2.05b# rpm
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| 09:44 | bash: rpm: command not found
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| 09:44 | <sbalneav> What under ltsp 4.2?
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| 09:44 | <MrChicken> yeah
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| 09:45 | <IRCzito> MrChicken: this is ltsp5??
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| 09:45 | <sbalneav> well, of course not. You need ltsp5
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| 09:45 | <IRCzito> :D
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| 09:45 | <sbalneav> Quick steps:
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| 09:45 | 1) install ubuntu
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| 09:45 | 2) apt-get install ltsp-server-standalone
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| 09:46 | <MrChicken> I already have ltsp-4.2 in production with FC4
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| 09:46 | <sbalneav> 3) ltsp-build-client
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| 09:46 | <MrChicken> is there any easy way to upgrade?
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| 09:46 | <sbalneav> 4) chroot /opt/ltsp/i386
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| 09:46 | 5) apt-get install kphone.
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| 09:47 | Well, we have ubuntu ltsp5 tarballs on the site
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| 09:47 | You should be able to throw one of those on the fc5 box, and chroot to it, and use apt to load kphone.
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| 09:48 | <vagrantc> !tarball
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| 09:48 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "tarball" is http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Ltsp5TarballInstructions
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| 09:48 | <sbalneav> \o/ for vagrantc
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| 09:48 | <vagrantc> sbalneav: you could merge steps 4 and 5 :)
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| 09:49 | <sbalneav> yeah yeah yeah :)
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| 09:49 | I'm a purist :)
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| 09:49 | <vagrantc> well, it just makes it less likely they'll accidentally install it on the server.
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| 09:49 | <bip> hey vagrantc ?
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| 09:49 | where have u been ?
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| 09:49 | <sbalneav> only if they skip step 4 entirely :)
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| 09:50 | <bip> i wish u were around a couple of days ago
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| 09:51 | <MrChicken> sbalneav ... I'm a bit scared to do this and break something :P can you help me out a bit?
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| 09:52 | <vagrantc> bip: i've been working too much, moreso than working, commutting too much.
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| 09:52 | <bip> i msorry to hear that ...
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| 09:52 | <vagrantc> bip: i should hopefully free up 1-2 more days a week in the near future to do real work again :)
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| 09:52 | <bip> i will have to do some useless comutting too today
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| 09:52 | <sbalneav> MrChicken: Well, you're going to do this on a test server, yes?
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| 09:52 | <bip> i left my wife at her work with the car ...
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| 09:53 | but i left bringin the car keys with me
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| 09:53 | <MrChicken> sbalneav ... actually I was gonna be stupid and make it in the production server (its only running ltsp, its just that there are two clients connected to it)
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| 09:53 | <bip> so now i have to take the underground to recovere her and the car
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| 09:53 | isn t that very smart vagrantc ? ;-)
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| 09:55 | if dont have a real machine avialable for testing i do test dangerous deployments using virtual machines MrChicken
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| 09:55 | <sbalneav> MrChicken: Set yourself up a test server.
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| 09:55 | <bip> or a irtual one at least
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| 09:55 | s/irtual/virtual
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| 09:56 | <bip> sbalneav, did i ever ask u about booting from local devices ?
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| 09:56 | <sbalneav> Nope
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| 09:56 | <bip> i have ben buggin some may ppl lately
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| 09:56 | that i have lost count ;-)
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| 09:56 | <vagrantc> it's also not that hard to set up a second LTSP environment... i.e. /opt/ltsp5 or some such.
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| 09:56 | especially with the tarballs
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| 09:57 | <bip> ok I l try but i think if i can t fix it today
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| 09:57 | i will write a more detailed request for help to the mailing list
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| 09:57 | <MrChicken> vagrantc... so I just untar them onto /opt/ltsp-5?
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| 09:57 | <bip> im tryin to follow this howto:
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| 09:57 | <MrChicken> and start from there?
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| 09:58 | <bip> http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/BootingFromLocalDevice
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| 09:58 | but there is lot i cant understand in that howto
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| 09:58 | probaly it assumes some knodlege i m missing
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| 09:58 | <sbalneav> bip: What is it you want to do.
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| 09:58 | <IRCzito> MrChicken: and add export path, and dhcpd.conf entries
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| 09:58 | <bip> well i have ltsp4.2 serevr perfectly running
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| 09:59 | and a i have a old laptop i want to use as client
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| 09:59 | it doest do pxe boot nor it works with etherboot
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| 09:59 | <sbalneav> I'm always amazed at the number of people who either are willing to test on their production server, or, alternatively HELP someone to test on a production server.
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| 10:00 | <sbalneav> bip: that will be a big job to get going.
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| 10:00 | <bip> so what i want to do is to build a cd that will let that client to boot with the right kernel then import all the required fs from the ltsp machine sbalneav
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| 10:00 | i know it is ...
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| 10:00 | that doc was supposed to show me the way
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| 10:00 | <vagrantc> bip: is this still with a pcmcia nic ?
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| 10:00 | <bip> but i still got lost
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| 10:01 | yes always that
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| 10:01 | i know i m crazy ...
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| 10:01 | <vagrantc> that's the hardest part of what you're trying to do.
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| 10:01 | <bip> and probaly gettin an other client would be quicker
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| 10:01 | i know
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| 10:01 | all the rest is working vagrantc
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| 10:01 | <vagrantc> bip: you *might* have more luck with a USB network device
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| 10:01 | <bip> mmm
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| 10:02 | why ?
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| 10:02 | <vagrantc> bip: yes, another client would be *much* easier.
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| 10:02 | <bip> i know vagrantc
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| 10:02 | but i can t use an other client
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| 10:02 | well i can
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| 10:02 | <vagrantc> becuase there's less software involved in setting up a USB network card vs a pcmcia one, which means less software to tweak.
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| 10:02 | <bip> but it would be a greta face losing thingie ;-)
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| 10:02 | if u wanna have a laugh
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| 10:03 | i can tell u the whole story
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| 10:03 | but is more about human relations the techichal solutions
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| 10:03 | <vagrantc> i think you'll loose more face wasting lots of time on something that still doesn't get working :P
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| 10:03 | <bip> well
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| 10:03 | i must get it working
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| 10:03 | it isn t a matte rof trying
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| 10:03 | i must succed now
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| 10:04 | if is possible
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| 10:04 | <vagrantc> it is suceed or death?
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| 10:04 | <sbalneav> bip: I already told you what the best solution would be.
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| 10:04 | I remember now.
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| 10:04 | <bip> u might sbalneav
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| 10:04 | yes u said use knoppix
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| 10:04 | <sbalneav> yep
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| 10:04 | <vagrantc> ah, yeah.
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| 10:04 | <bip> and point it to the ltsp box as x server
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| 10:05 | <sbalneav> use knoppix, and modify the startup to do a X -query <ltspserver>
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| 10:05 | <bip> x client
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| 10:05 | but then the nfs part ?
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| 10:05 | <vagrantc> skip nfs
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| 10:05 | <bip> i dont want to skip that
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| 10:05 | i need to use remote storage
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| 10:06 | first the local disk is totally full
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| 10:06 | <vagrantc> bip: you are asking for something that is theoretically possible, but going to require a *lot* of work and in the end might not work at all.
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| 10:06 | <bip> second is awfully slow
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| 10:06 | why u say that ?
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| 10:07 | i dont understand i spoke about this with jamesq
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| 10:07 | and the dudes in ethrboot
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| 10:07 | and they all think it s tiotally doable
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| 10:07 | <sbalneav> bip: using knoppix wouldn't touch the disks, it would boot off the cd.
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| 10:07 | <vagrantc> bip: i would have done it years ago, if it wasn't really difficult.
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| 10:07 | <bip> i dont want to net boot
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| 10:07 | from pmcia
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| 10:07 | i want to boot from local device
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| 10:07 | a local kernel
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| 10:07 | <vagrantc> yes, but getting pcmcia support into the initramfs is still difficult.
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| 10:07 | <bip> then do the pivot_root
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| 10:08 | <vagrantc> bip: well, it's probably better to try to get it to work than to keep asking why it's hard to do.
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| 10:08 | <bip> ok the hard part is gettin pmcia into initramfs ?
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| 10:08 | <vagrantc> yes.
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| 10:08 | <bip> well i ma ctually trying
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| 10:08 | i strated following that howto
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| 10:09 | but i have problems understading about 505 of it
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| 10:09 | 50%
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| 10:09 | so i wondered if i could ask some craifications about the parts i dont understand
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| 10:09 | <sbalneav> Ask your questions, we'll try to answer
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| 10:09 | <bip> ok
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| 10:10 | <mattish> good afternoon
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| 10:10 | * MrChicken is downloading the tarball | |
| 10:10 | <bip> thy r goin to be lot of questions ...
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| 10:10 | <sbalneav> And at some point, we may not have the answers.
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| 10:10 | <bip> http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/BootingFromLocalDevice
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| 10:10 | well
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| 10:10 | i dont expect em all sbalneav
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| 10:11 | <MrChicken> at that point you may be able to find something in the mailing lists
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| 10:11 | <bip> a nice hint to the right dir will be enuff :)
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| 10:11 | <mattish> Im playing with sound on my thinterms, is there any way to set more specific alsa volumes on the terms?
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| 10:11 | I want to unmute the master-mono and set it to the same level as master stereo
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| 10:11 | <bip> In Black-Box create a ltsp_kernel_kit directory. http://ltsp.mirrors.tds.net/pub/ltsp/utils/ltsp_kernel_kit_4.2u3.tgz
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| 10:11 | Create a kernel source tree: I used 2.6.17.8.
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| 10:11 | Create extra with a mirror of any files you want to change and include.
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| 10:11 | Create an executable build_embedded_root
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| 10:11 | In the kernel directory (linux-2.6.17.8) copy ../ltsp_kernel_kit/config-2.6.17.8-ltsp-1 to .config
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| 10:11 | i have carried some of those steps sbalneav
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| 10:12 | i have downloade and untarred the kernel kit
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| 10:12 | and i have copied the config file
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| 10:12 | then i have run make oldconfig
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| 10:12 | <sbalneav> bip: but I will say this: you're going to expend a LOT of effort to do this. If you're looking to LEARN something, then fine, it will be worthwhile. If you're just looking to get a client going, you'll be far better served by spending $50 to buy a used PC somewhere.
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| 10:12 | <bip> and make
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| 10:12 | the learning part is important to me
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| 10:13 | i have already waste dton of money on this
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| 10:13 | so im not doin this to save mney
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| 10:13 | i already know this
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| 10:13 | i m tryin to understand as much as i can about ltsp this the important thing for me
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| 10:13 | <mattish> are there any other volume variables in the lts.conf?
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| 10:14 | <bip> but back to what i dont understand
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| 10:14 | <vagrantc> bip: i suspect this will be *much* easier to do with ltsp5
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| 10:14 | <bip> i suspect u might be right vagrantc
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| 10:14 | but ...
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| 10:14 | for lot of reasons to long to explain
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| 10:15 | <bip> i have a lts4.2 suse srevr already up and running vagrantc
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| 10:15 | <vagrantc> bip: i still think it will take you less time with ltsp5
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| 10:15 | <ClaudioFelix> hi there..
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| 10:15 | <bip> well
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| 10:15 | but i need to use suse
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| 10:15 | <vagrantc> so install a tarball
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| 10:15 | <ClaudioFelix> hey guys.. have anyone used a sis190 NIC sucessfully with LTSP?
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| 10:15 | <bip> and i hav3ent seen any howto or rport of a sufceesful suse ltsp5 deployement vagrantc
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| 10:16 | instead i managed to get 4.2 up and running
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| 10:16 | <ClaudioFelix> we are having some trouble here with it.. DHCP goes fine but when it gets to "Mounting proc" it stops saying it couldn't detect the NIC
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| 10:17 | <bip> but if reinstallin server from scratch is the way to go i ight even do that vagrantc
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| 10:17 | but i need to understand why
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| 10:17 | <ClaudioFelix> but I checked out the ltsp kernel modules and sis190.ko is there...
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| 10:17 | <bip> because right mow i have all i need except that i can t boot that client vagrantc
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| 10:18 | i asked jamesq and he said read that howto and ask in etherboot
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| 10:18 | which i did
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| 10:18 | <sbalneav> What did etherboot tell you?
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| 10:19 | <ClaudioFelix> me sbalneav?
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| 10:19 | <bip> well they said go ahead build a local boot device
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| 10:19 | <sbalneav> No, bip
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| 10:19 | <ClaudioFelix> I ok.. thanks :)
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| 10:19 | <vagrantc> there's no etherbooting from a pcmcia device
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| 10:19 | <bip> we vene discussed the available options
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| 10:19 | yeah they said that
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| 10:20 | they were clear about that
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| 10:20 | at least some of em where
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| 10:20 | they didn say u can etherboot
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| 10:20 | but they said build a local boot device boot from it
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| 10:20 | the do the the pivot_root
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| 10:20 | <vagrantc> bip: the reason i think it will be easier with ltsp5 is that you can create a custom initramfs image just by dropping some scripts into a directory and running a couple commands rather than building an entire kernel and such
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| 10:21 | <bip> which sounds almist like a latin dance step ;-)
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| 10:21 | well kernel building doset totally scares me
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| 10:21 | i dont build a kenerl every day
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| 10:21 | <vagrantc> and installing ltsp5 on suse is as simple as grabbing the ltsp5 tarball for debian or ubuntu and unpacking it onto your server.
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| 10:22 | <bip> because i m lazy and i dont like wasting time with custom kernels if i dont really need one
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| 10:22 | <vagrantc> bip: well, basically, you're going to have to create custom scripts to support pcmcia no matter what way you do it, so you may as well skip the custom kernel building
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| 10:23 | bip: you are most certainly not lazy if you're embarking on this project :P
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| 10:23 | <bip> cbut pmcia is supported by stoick kernel ...
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| 10:23 | <vagrantc> well, pcmcia support is only partially supported in the kernel, it requires userspace parts too.
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| 10:23 | <bip> i dont understand why it cannot be used if all i want to do is to boot from local device
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| 10:23 | <vagrantc> that's why USB would be easier
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| 10:23 | <bip> mm
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| 10:24 | even if i have a old bios that doesnt boot from usb ?
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| 10:24 | <vagrantc> yes
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| 10:24 | <bip> and has got old slow usb 1 ?
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| 10:24 | if any
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| 10:24 | <vagrantc> you might take a performance hit, but you just need to load the appropriate network modules, or build the usb network code into a kernel.
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| 10:24 | <bip> if not even sure it has got any usb port at alò
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| 10:24 | <vagrantc> performance hit with usb 1 ...
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| 10:25 | <bip> well if it s heavy i can t take that
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| 10:25 | <vagrantc> whereas with pcmcia, you need to load the appropriate modules/in-kernel support, and you need to run some userspace daemons
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| 10:27 | <bip> an those userspace daemons cannot run from local boot device if all fs is imported remotely right ?
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| 10:27 | <vagrantc> now youre catching on
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| 10:27 | <bip> but since tose r needded to become networked
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| 10:27 | <vagrantc> you have to load them from the initramfs ...
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| 10:27 | <bip> ok
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| 10:27 | and whatr stops me from doing so ?
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| 10:27 | <vagrantc> which is much harder than loading them from a more complete filesystem
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| 10:27 | <bip> harder why ?
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| 10:28 | <vagrantc> because your tools are limited
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| 10:28 | <bip> they might not fit into ram ?
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| 10:28 | r the tools needed wont fit ?
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| 10:28 | <vagrantc> it's more a matter of figuring out exactly what you need to put in the initramfs
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| 10:28 | <bip> why my tools r limiited ?
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| 10:28 | ok i understand this vagrantc
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| 10:29 | <sbalneav> ltsp4.2 is old. We're not really developing for it anymore.
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| 10:29 | <bip> i undertand that to accomplish something u need to know what u want to accomplish
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| 10:29 | i know sbalneav
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| 10:29 | * vagrantc seconds sbalneav 's point about old | |
| 10:29 | <bip> i would gladly use 5
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| 10:29 | <vagrantc> !tarball
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| 10:29 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "tarball" is http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Ltsp5TarballInstructions
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| 10:29 | <vagrantc> bip: go to it!
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| 10:29 | <bip> u know what my only objecto to using it ?
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| 10:29 | <cliebow_> 114.2 is genteel..
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| 10:29 | <bip> i dont feel like bein first
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| 10:30 | if u know some other suse user testing it
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| 10:30 | <vagrantc> bip: ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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| 10:30 | <bip> i will gladly join even a small comunity of 2 or 3 persom
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| 10:30 | <vagrantc> bip: this whole use a pcmcia card thing is being first
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| 10:30 | <bip> but can u understand that i dont reaòòi feel like bein the first
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| 10:30 | ok
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| 10:30 | <vagrantc> bip: and *way* more difficult than installing ltsp5 on suse.
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| 10:31 | <bip> i know
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| 10:31 | <vagrantc> so quit your whining :P
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| 10:31 | <bip> ok
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| 10:31 | so your offer is:
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| 10:31 | <vagrantc> all you need to do is configure tftp and dhcp and nfs, and extract the tarball of ltsp5
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| 10:31 | <bip> get ltsp5 and we will feel better at helpin ya right ?
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| 10:32 | <MrChicken> ok first problem with ltsp5 install
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| 10:32 | <bip> tfpt dhcp and nfs ra lready configured
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| 10:32 | <MrChicken> under fedora
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| 10:32 | <vagrantc> bip: i'm more able to help you, as i know the initramfs-tools stuff pretty well, and i'd like to get pcmcia support
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| 10:32 | <bip> i would just need to adjust those for ltsp5 vagrantc
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| 10:32 | <MrChicken> ltsp-update-sshkeys
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| 10:32 | <vagrantc> bip: yes.
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| 10:32 | <bip> ok
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| 10:32 | you convinced me
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| 10:32 | <MrChicken> gives me an error: /usr/local/sbin/ltsp-update-sshkeys: line 6: tempfile: command not found
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| 10:32 | <bip> i trust ya vagrantc
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| 10:32 | w havent ever met
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| 10:33 | <vagrantc> bip: we'll fix that someday :)
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| 10:33 | <bip> but we havce chatted long enuff that i can say i know u a bit :)
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| 10:33 | well
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| 10:33 | if i keep going
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| 10:33 | <vagrantc> MrChicken: so... find the rpm that includes tempfile
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| 10:33 | <bip> i hope to have altsp convention in rome one of those years
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| 10:33 | <mattish> can i send to multiple esd's from one source ?
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| 10:34 | <bip> where do i find a ltsp5 tarball howto i could use to get started in the wiki ?
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| 10:34 | <vagrantc> MrChicken: or if you have mktemp or something similar, modify ltsp-update-sshkeys to use that
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| 10:34 | <bip> what do i do of the old 4.2 install ?
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| 10:34 | <vagrantc> bip: where's it installed to?
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| 10:34 | <bip> it in opt as usual
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| 10:35 | <vagrantc> /opt/ltsp ?
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| 10:35 | <bip> i used the rpm included in the ltsp4.2 iso
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| 10:35 | maybe i can use that very ltsp.admin thingie to remove it ?
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| 10:35 | <vagrantc> you could move it to /opt/ltsp-4.2 so you can at least switch back to it if needed
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| 10:35 | <bip> aaah
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| 10:35 | welll
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| 10:36 | i hape very limited space in that test server
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| 10:36 | <MrChicken> thats what I did :P
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| 10:36 | <bip> so maybe i better move it somewhere else
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| 10:36 | <MrChicken> then remove /opt/ltsp
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| 10:36 | <bip> remove is a tad radicaò MrChicken
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| 10:36 | i d raher scp it into an other machine
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| 10:36 | would that work vagrantc ?
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| 10:37 | i copy it somewhere else ?
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| 10:37 | <vagrantc> bip: i'd tarball it up before scp
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| 10:37 | <bip> yeah
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| 10:37 | <vagrantc> but back it up however you wish
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| 10:37 | <bip> tarball and copy
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| 10:37 | how musch space do i need for ltsp5 ?
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| 10:37 | <MrChicken> bip... but ltsp4 is easy to install :P
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| 10:38 | the tarball takes up about 200 megs
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| 10:38 | <bip> well
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| 10:38 | after or before untarring MrChicken ?
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| 10:38 | <bip> it si but my problem isn t installing MrChicken
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| 10:38 | <vagrantc> bip: somewhere around 350-500MB
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| 10:39 | <bip> lemme check server now ...
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| 10:39 | mmm
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| 10:39 | and if i add sapre hs
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| 10:39 | hd
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| 10:39 | and mount it as /opt/ltsp ?^
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| 10:39 | <vagrantc> that's one downside to ltsp5 ... the default install is sinificantly bigger
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| 10:40 | significantly
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| 10:40 | <bip> that would be quicker of all thet tarnballing and copying right ?
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| 10:40 | ok
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| 10:40 | i ll do that lemme check how large i can go
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| 10:40 | <vagrantc> yeah, stick another drive in. sure :)
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| 10:40 | <bip> they r virtual vagrantc ;-)
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| 10:40 | * vagrantc shakes head | |
| 10:41 | <bip> a 4gb virtual disk would be right i guess ?
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| 10:43 | <vagrantc> that ought to do it.
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| 10:44 | although, why not just back up your entire virtual server and kill the "old" install.
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| 10:44 | <MrChicken> lets seee
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| 10:44 | finished configuring ltsp5
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| 10:44 | lets see how it runs
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| 10:45 | duh
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| 10:45 | needed to restart dhcpd
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| 10:46 | l00ding 00b00nt00
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| 10:47 | <sbalneav> MrChicken: now, all you should need to do is, chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 apt-get install kphone on the server.
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| 10:47 | Then, just manage your plumbing to get it started.
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| 10:48 | <MrChicken> bad path in mount request from 192.168.99.178: "192.168.99.4:/opt/ltsp/ubuntu_6.10_i386"
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| 10:48 | that means I messed exports?
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| 10:48 | <sbalneav> prolly
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| 10:48 | <vagrantc> MrChicken: just export /opt/ltsp
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| 10:48 | <MrChicken> '/opt/ltsp 192.168.99.0/255.255.255.0(ro,no_root_squash,sync)
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| 10:48 | thats the line in my exports
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| 10:49 | <bip> shall i follow those istructions after i have the tarball and the space vagrantc :
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| 10:49 | http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/DownLoads
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| 10:49 | <MrChicken> bip --> yes
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| 10:49 | <bip> ok
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| 10:50 | <MrChicken> its not very hard... unless you mess up your exports like I did :P:P
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| 10:50 | <vagrantc> !tarball
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| 10:50 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "tarball" is http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Ltsp5TarballInstructions
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| 10:50 | <vagrantc> MrChicken: looks more like dhcpd.conf is messed up.
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| 10:50 | <bip> can i pick any of those tarballs vagrantc ?
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| 10:50 | <MrChicken> also a good tip is to restart nfs
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| 10:50 | bip --> pick the ubuntu one
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| 10:50 | <vagrantc> MrChicken: grep root-path dhcpd.conf
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| 10:51 | <bip> is ok the ubuntu one vagrantc ?
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| 10:51 | <vagrantc> bip: sure
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| 10:51 | <MrChicken> option root-path "192.168.99.4:/opt/ltsp/ubuntu_6.10_i386";
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| 10:51 | <bip> ok
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| 10:51 | <vagrantc> bip: feisty or edgy?
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| 10:51 | <bip> i go cutting edge and pick the feisty one right ?
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| 10:51 | feisty i was thinking
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| 10:51 | <vagrantc> MrChicken: does /opt/ltsp/ubuntu_6.10_i386 exist?
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| 10:51 | <bip> its a bout to be realesed
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| 10:52 | <vagrantc> yeah.
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| 10:52 | <MrChicken> [root@ltsp ubuntu_6.10_i386]# pwd
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| 10:52 | <vagrantc> i think edgy's initramfs-tools is a little dated.
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| 10:52 | <bip> ok
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| 10:53 | <MrChicken> '/opt/ltsp/ubuntu_6.10_i386
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| 10:53 | <bip> i mbuildin the virtual disk for /opt/ltsp right now vagrantc
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| 10:54 | <MrChicken> lo?
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| 10:55 | <vagrantc> MrChicken: you've restarted NFS ?
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| 10:55 | <MrChicken> yes
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| 10:55 | <vagrantc> and it's still not working?
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| 10:56 | <MrChicken> nope
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| 10:57 | Mar 23 10:59:23 ltsp rpc.mountd: bad path in mount request from 192.168.99.178: "192.168.99.4:/opt/ltsp/ubuntu_6.10_i386"
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| 10:58 | <vagrantc> 192.168.99.4 is your server?
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| 10:58 | <MrChicken> yeap
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| 10:58 | what if I chmod 777d it?
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| 10:58 | could it be permissions or something funny like that?
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| 11:00 | <vagrantc> dont do that.
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| 11:01 | * MrChicken obeys | |
| 11:01 | * vagrantc doesn't know vagrantc's way around fedora | |
| 11:01 | <MrChicken> well try and give me the ubuntu's way
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| 11:01 | * Lumiere throws up at the thought of fedora | |
| 11:01 | <MrChicken> and google will translate :P
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| 11:02 | <vagrantc> the only thing i'm wondering here is if fedora's NFS server supports tcp or not ... because i think that's the default for ubuntu's initramfs
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| 11:02 | but still, that doesn't really match up with the error message real well.
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| 11:03 | * MrChicken has ltsp-4.2 working so nfs should work with tcp... right? | |
| 11:04 | * MrChicken applies advanced engineering techniques to the server ... | |
| 11:04 | <MrChicken> Lemme reboot and see what happens
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| 11:04 | lol
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| 11:04 | <vagrantc> well, NFS can work with udp or tcp ... which does ltsp 4.2 use?
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| 11:06 | <MrChicken> it works tcp
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| 11:07 | however I dont see anything in fstab
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| 11:09 | * vagrantc suspects fstab is not needed | |
| 11:09 | <vagrantc> MrChicken: ok ... try this on the server: mout 192.168.99.4:/opt/ltsp /mnt
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| 11:12 | <MrChicken> vagrantc ... so far so good
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| 11:13 | <vagrantc> MrChicken: so, you can see /mnt/Ubuntu*
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| 11:13 | <MrChicken> yes
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| 11:13 | <vagrantc> MrChicken: is it Ubuntu or ubuntu ?
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| 11:13 | <MrChicken> ubuntu
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| 11:13 | <MrChicken> small case
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| 11:14 | <vagrantc> same as root-path in dhcpd.conf ?
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| 11:14 | <MrChicken> yes sir
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| 11:15 | <vagrantc> MrChicken: umount /mnt ; mount 192.168.99.4:/opt/ltsp/ubuntu_6.10_i386
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| 11:15 | er
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| 11:15 | MrChicken: umount /mnt ; mount 192.168.99.4:/opt/ltsp/ubuntu_6.10_i386 /mnt
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| 11:15 | see what happens there
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| 11:15 | <MrChicken> amazingly, it gets mounted
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| 11:15 | :P
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| 11:16 | <dmorar> Hi, i want to invite you to read a free magazine from latin america (its written in spanish and that might be a problem, still some of you can read in spanish and there's an article about ltsp, and windows vista's review (from open communitty side of view)) you are welcome to read it and comment it, and as always with the open things, to be free to share and... and... and... here's the link: http://www.aclibre.org/larevista.html, hey and don't
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| 11:16 | forget to check openapps (a collection of open source software alternatives ;) .. ready to download :P)
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| 11:16 | <vagrantc> well, i'm out of ideas for now.
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| 11:18 | <MrChicken> wir
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| 11:18 | weird
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| 11:18 | <Lumiere> dmorar: that sounded incredibly like spam
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| 11:18 | <vagrantc> oh
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| 11:19 | MrChicken: try with mount -o tcp
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| 11:19 | <MrChicken> works fine
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| 11:19 | lemme try it from a different server
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| 11:19 | <vagrantc> yeah
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| 11:19 | good call
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| 11:20 | <vagrantc> MrChicken: did i ask if you have a firewall?
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| 11:20 | <MrChicken> no, but as far as I remember I dont
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| 11:20 | cuz ltsp 4-2 works
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| 11:20 | ChanServ sets mode: +o Lumiere | |
| 11:20 | <vagrantc> right...
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| 11:20 | <MrChicken> DAMNIT
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| 11:21 | on another server and it mounts perfectly
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| 11:21 | <mhterres> Hello !!!!
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| 11:21 | hey jammcq , hey sbalneav
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| 11:22 | Lumiere sets mode: -o Lumiere | |
| 11:23 | <Lumiere> bbiab
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| 11:23 | <MrChicken> jammcq... you always seem to know whats wrong
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| 11:23 | vagrant
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| 11:23 | how about I paste my exports
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| 11:23 | <vagrantc> yeah, use the pastebot
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| 11:23 | <MrChicken> and my dhcpd.conf
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| 11:23 | !pastebot
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| 11:23 | <ltspbot> MrChicken: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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| 11:24 | <vagrantc> but somehow i don't think thats the problem...
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| 11:24 | maybe soemthing in dhcpd.conf would be revealing
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| 11:29 | <dmorar> Lumiere: sorry
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| 11:29 | <ACP_Masquerade> aa
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| 11:29 | <ACP_Masquerade> any one from nepal
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| 11:29 | <dmorar> Lumiere: i didn't want to make any trouble, i was just informing....
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| 11:30 | <ltsppbot> "MrChicken" pasted "ltsp rpc.mountd: bad path in mount request from 192.168.99.178: "192.168.99.4:/opt/ltsp/ubuntu_6.10_i386"" (57 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/66
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| 11:32 | <MrChicken> how about I change that ro line to rw
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| 11:33 | <vagrantc> nah
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| 11:33 | MrChicken: i'm stumped. everything looks fine to me
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| 11:33 | <MrChicken> lemme try the engineering approach
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| 11:33 | :P
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| 11:33 | lets reboot the damned thing
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| 11:33 | <vagrantc> rw will do BAD THINGS
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| 11:35 | <MrChicken> define BAD THINGS
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| 11:36 | <vagrantc> well, i guess it's probably safe because ltsp will still mount it ro
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| 11:36 | <ogra> drop the ip from root-path
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| 11:36 | * vagrantc uses "ltsp: liberally here | |
| 11:36 | <vagrantc> ogra: ah! yes!
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| 11:37 | i've had a long standing bug on initramfs-tools about that.
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| 11:37 | tried to fix it once and failed.
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| 11:37 | <ogra> well, i'll put it on my list for things to look at before release
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| 11:37 | <vagrantc> dhcpd.conf looked right because it *should* work, but initramfs-tools is a little broken
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| 11:38 | <MrChicken> ????
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| 11:39 | <vagrantc> MrChicken: do what ogra said ... change root-path to not include the ip
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| 11:40 | MrChicken: just : option root-path "/opt/ltsp/ubuntu_6.10_i386";
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| 11:41 | <bricode> ogra: Does the ltsp-build-client actually obey the --dist flag for feisty?
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| 11:41 | <vagrantc> bricode: does it not for edgy ?
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| 11:42 | * vagrantc realizes it's been a long time since vagrantc tested --dist on debian | |
| 11:43 | <MrChicken> vagrantc ... ok hold on
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| 11:44 | <bricode_> vagrantc: No, it's just because I haven't actually used it to build a client with a different version than the current.
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| 11:46 | * bricode_ waits patiently for a --dist feisty install. | |
| 11:46 | <bip> after i untar the tarball will i find istructions for install inside it vagrantc ?
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| 11:47 | <vagrantc> bip: instructions should be at the installing from tarball URL
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| 11:47 | <bip> mmm
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| 11:47 | lemme see ...
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| 11:47 | <vagrantc> instructions are quite simple.
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| 11:48 | <bip> it just says untar this in /opt
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| 11:49 | im stil dowloading
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| 11:49 | what shoud i do after untarring ?
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| 11:50 | * vagrantc looks | |
| 11:50 | <vagrantc> !tarball
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| 11:50 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "tarball" is http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Ltsp5TarballInstructions
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| 11:51 | <MrChicken> Mar 23 11:53:14 ltsp rpc.mountd: authenticated mount request from ws178.ltsp:906 for /opt/ltsp/ubuntu_6.10_i386 (/opt/ltsp)
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| 11:51 | WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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| 11:51 | <gepatino> hi, i'm using ltsp5m and the diskette drives in the terminals reads the media too often, even if noone is using them
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| 11:52 | localdevices=Y
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| 11:52 | is it possible to disable local devices for some of them?
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| 11:52 | <vagrantc> bip: i see 10 steps listed, most of which are after the untarring bit
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| 11:52 | <bip> ok ok
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| 11:52 | i missed the further link ...
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| 11:52 | i m there now
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| 11:52 | sorry
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| 11:52 | im sorta slow to catch up
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| 11:58 | <MrChicken> ok
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| 11:58 | <MrChicken> now I get the ubuntu login screen
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| 11:58 | but I cant login to the system
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| 11:59 | <dan__t> 'morning.
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| 11:59 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> ermm.. with edubuntu have red led of micro to full .. every time....
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| 11:59 | with debian and 4.2 version not happend
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| 11:59 | ideas?
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| 12:02 | <MrChicken> vagrantc?
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| 12:02 | u there?
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| 12:03 | <ltsppbot> "bip" pasted "my /etc/export" (13 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/67
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| 12:04 | <vagrantc> MrChicken: is there /etc/X11/Xsession on your server?
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| 12:05 | MrChicken: and if so, is it executeable?
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| 12:05 | <ltsppbot> "bip" pasted "my /etc/dhcpd.conf" (33 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/68
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| 12:05 | <vagrantc> MrChicken: ls -l /etc/X11/Xsession
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| 12:05 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> can i uninstall some extra packages i don;t use in the clients at edubuntu?
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| 12:05 | <MrChicken> nope
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| 12:05 | <bip> vagrantc, i ahve pasted my curernt confile so u can tell me how they should be edited to work with ltsp5 ok ?
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| 12:06 | <vagrantc> MrChicken: you'll need to set LDM_REMOTECMD in lts.conf
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| 12:06 | * vagrantc needs to leave very soon | |
| 12:06 | <bip> :(
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| 12:06 | <MrChicken> LDM_REMOTECMD = Y ?
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| 12:07 | bip --> looks fine to me
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| 12:07 | <bip> ok
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| 12:07 | <vagrantc> MrChicken: no ... you need to set it to something that handles your X sessions
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| 12:07 | <bip> so everything should work ?
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| 12:07 | <vagrantc> MrChicken: i don;t know what that is on fedora
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| 12:07 | <MrChicken> like uhhhh xdm?
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| 12:07 | <vagrantc> like what xdm uses
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| 12:08 | <cliebow_> apache2 fail to start for anyone else?
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| 12:08 | <vagrantc> on debian systems, it's /etc/X11/Xsession
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| 12:08 | <MrChicken> hrmmm beats me
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| 12:08 | lemme ask around
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| 12:08 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> can i uninstall some extra packages i don;t use in the clients at edubuntu?
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| 12:08 | <vagrantc> me too
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| 12:08 | <cliebow_> apache2?
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| 12:10 | <vagrantc> bip: remove the ip from root-path
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| 12:10 | <bip> mmm
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| 12:10 | <vagrantc> bip: and change your filename entries to point to the appropriate files
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| 12:10 | <bip> yeah
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| 12:10 | <vagrantc> bip: either /tftpboot/ltsp/i386 or /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386
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| 12:10 | <bip> this line:
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| 12:10 | option root-path "192.168.255.150:/opt/ltsp/i386";
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| 12:11 | no ip right in dhcpd.conf ?
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| 12:11 | <vagrantc> bip: yes, drop the "192.168.255.150:"
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| 12:11 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> ogra: r u there?
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| 12:11 | <bip> ok got that
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| 12:11 | il will check the tftp part too thanx
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| 12:11 | :)
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| 12:12 | <bip> he has
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| 12:13 | <BarryAllen> hi all, where is defined the amount of max simultaneous sessions, on ltsp ?
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| 12:13 | <cliebow_> BadMagic, you mean like MaxSessions in gdm.conf?
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| 12:14 | Heh
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| 12:14 | BarryAllen, you mean like MaxSessions in gdm.conf?
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| 12:14 | <BarryAllen> probally :)
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| 12:15 | <cliebow_> defaults to like 16..i set it to whatever...150?
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| 12:16 | <BarryAllen> tks :)
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| 12:20 | <MrChicken> uhhh I get the ubuntu login screen
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| 12:20 | <str4nd> ...ldm?
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| 12:20 | <MrChicken> but I cant get anything
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| 12:20 | else
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| 12:20 | I mean, I enter my login and passwd
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| 12:21 | and I get dumped rigyht back to that screen
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| 12:21 | <cliebow_> ldm is quite white compared to the regular
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| 12:21 | <bgomes> MrChicken: check yuor path for /etc/X11/Xsessiom
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| 12:21 | <cliebow_> you prob need to ltsp-udate-sshkeys..something like that
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| 12:22 | <bgomes> MrChicken: I think you do ltsp-update-sshkeys, if not, do it
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| 12:24 | <MrChicken> '/opt/ltsp/ubuntu_6.10_i386/etc/X11/Xsession
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| 12:24 | '/etc/X11/xdm/Xsession
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| 12:24 | <bgomes> MrChicken: no this... the /etc/X11/Xsessiom for your ltsp server
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| 12:25 | MrChicken: ldm will run by ssh your /etc/X11/Xsessiom by default
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| 12:25 | <MrChicken> bgomes /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession
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| 12:25 | <bgomes> MrChicken: your do link in your system or change lts.conf in your terminal
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| 12:26 | *you
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| 12:27 | MrChicken: in source of ldm you have:
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| 12:28 | # select the right session command
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| 12:28 | session_manager = get_config('LDM_REMOTECMD') or '/etc/X11/Xsession'
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| 12:28 | <MrChicken> just did the link and works wonders
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| 12:28 | <bgomes> MrChicken: in my system ai make the link too ;)
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| 12:29 | MrChicken: w dist you use to do ltsp-5?
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| 12:30 | <MrChicken> FC4
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| 12:30 | Actually I downlaoded the tarball
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| 12:30 | :P
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| 12:30 | KPhone is not a standard part of the LTSP package, so we needed to build it inside the local stations' root filesystem that is NFS-mounted from the server at boot time.
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| 12:31 | <bgomes> MrChicken: I use slack11 and I am have some problems
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| 12:31 | <ClaudioFelix> MrChicken.. do you use Kphone on LTSP 4.2 or 5?
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| 12:31 | <MrChicken> I wanna use it on 5
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| 12:31 | <ClaudioFelix> but you already does it on 4.2?
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| 12:32 | <MrChicken> no :(
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| 12:32 | <bgomes> MrChicken: you can use of local aplication with ssh forward to user in server
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| 12:32 | <MrChicken> thats why I upgraded to 5
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| 12:32 | <ClaudioFelix> yeah..
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| 12:32 | all that LBE stuff drives anyone crazy heheh
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| 12:32 | <MrChicken> I was trying to build LBE and I got problems of compiler versions
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| 12:32 | <ClaudioFelix> i couldn't get it to complete
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| 12:33 | <bgomes> ClaudioFelix: I think dont have this problem with ltsp-5
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| 12:33 | <ClaudioFelix> that's good bgomes.. since i use slack 11 too :)
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| 12:33 | did you get it to work allright already?
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| 12:33 | <MrChicken> bgomes ... soooo I just CHROOT and do an apt-get install?
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| 12:34 | <bgomes> MrChicken: : exatamente
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| 12:34 | <ClaudioFelix> hehe
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| 12:34 | so many conterraneos
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| 12:34 | hehe
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| 12:34 | <bgomes> ClaudioFelix: yes, all features working fine in slackware 11 on ltsp-5
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| 12:34 | <ltsppbot> "bip" pasted "ltsp-update-sshkeys output" (17 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/69
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| 12:35 | <bgomes> ClaudioFelix: where are u from?
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| 12:35 | <ClaudioFelix> Belo Horizonte, MG
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| 12:35 | and you?
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| 12:35 | <bgomes> ClaudioFelix: I am Imperatriz, MA
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| 12:35 | <bgomes> ClaudioFelix: vamos no português, me atrapalho um pouco com ingles :)
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| 12:35 | <mhterres> Porto Alegre/RS
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| 12:35 | <MrChicken> bip what distro r u running?
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| 12:35 | <bgomes> mhterres: hahah :) legal
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| 12:36 | muitos brasileiros por aqui
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| 12:36 | <bip> suse enterprise desktop 10.1 MrChicken
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| 12:36 | <bgomes> ClaudioFelix: voce já esta usado ltsp5 ?
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| 12:36 | <mhterres> bgomes: use english in the channel please
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| 12:36 | <MrChicken> try entering this command
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| 12:36 | mktemp
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| 12:36 | <ClaudioFelix> ainda nao.. mas to com vontade
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| 12:36 | <bgomes> mhterres: #ltsp-br
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| 12:37 | <mhterres> yes
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| 12:37 | <bip> MrChicken, if u dont use my nick i wont know if u r talking to me sorry :(
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| 12:37 | <bgomes> ClaudioFelix: #ltsp-br
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| 12:38 | <MrChicken> bip: type mktemp and paste the result here
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| 12:38 | <bip> ok
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| 12:39 | linux-6s61:~ # mktemp
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| 12:39 | /tmp/tmp.Rsvta23154
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| 12:39 | linux-6s61:~ #
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| 12:56 | <bip> ok i have just installed ltsp 5 in suse linux enterprise desktop 10.1
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| 12:56 | and i think i have got dhcp right becaute the machines boot
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| 12:56 | i mean the client boots
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| 12:56 | but i get no login screeen
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| 12:57 | i suspect something went wrong with the ssh script.
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| 12:59 | nooo
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| 12:59 | was just slow
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| 12:59 | got the login screen
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| 13:02 | <bip> ok somethig is still wrong
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| 13:02 | i get the login screen but i can t login
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| 13:03 | http://pastebot.ltsp.org/69
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| 13:11 | <cliebow__> reboot..
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| 13:15 | <bip> rebbot what the server '
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| 13:15 | should i reboot the server cliebow '
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| 13:16 | and reun that script '
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| 13:16 | or just reboot '
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| 13:27 | <Tegel> edubuntu fresh install, fixed IP to suit my network. Configured clients to boot on the network instead. Downloads kernel and starts it. Client get the edubuntu logo / loadscreen but then nothing happens. Clients are both Intel and AMD recent systems, servern is a 900 MHz test-system. Any tips on what I'm doing wrong?
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| 13:28 | Except the obvious of running the server on a 3 year old system... :-)
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| 13:31 | <sbalneav> Tegel: So, the ubuntu screen never goes away?
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| 13:32 | <Tegel> no
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| 13:32 | waited for 30 minutes
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| 13:34 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> can i uninstall some extra packages i don;t use in the clients at edubuntu?
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| 13:38 | <gonzaloaf_work> hello, what can I do if I want to erase the home and copy it from the /etc/skel of each user before they log in to the system?
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| 13:46 | <MrChicken> bip
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| 13:46 | bip: now you just have to do find /etc/X11 -name Xsession
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| 13:47 | lets suppose its says /etc/X11/path.to/Xsession
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| 13:47 | you say ln -n /etc/X11/path.to/Xsession /etc/X11/Xsession
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| 13:47 | I'm having another issue
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| 13:48 | when I boot from my VMWARE vm I get everything OK
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| 13:48 | however... when I boot from a thin client... I get the UBUNTU loading screen
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| 13:48 | and when its finishes loading I get a big screen full of emptyness
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| 13:52 | <Tegel> would be nice with an error message but I see none in the logs and get nothing on the screen either
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| 14:10 | <gdi2k> Greetings! I've got LTSP up and running on Ubuntu (edgy) and the setup went great, my first terminal is working. However, I'm having trouble with lts.conf - specifying settings there (using [Default]) doesn't seem to have any effect on the clients. do I need to restart something somewhere for the new lts.conf settings to take effect?
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| 14:19 | <Tegel> I'm just guessing here since I never got that far yet but I think you only need to reboot clients because the system seems to load that file for each client
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| 14:23 | <gdi2k> that's what I thought, but it seems to have no effect on my client. as a test, I specified the 800 x 600 resolution out of the documentation examples. It still reverts back to 1024 x 768. I'm actually trying to achieve a 1280 x 1024 resolution, for which I have mode lines and all, but it just seems to ignore them...
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| 14:24 | <Tegel> and you tried to reboot the server?
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| 14:24 | <gdi2k> no, didn't think that would be necessary, but can try that...
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| 14:25 | <Tegel> easy way of figuring it out :-)
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| 14:25 | <gdi2k> brb...
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| 14:33 | * kaminski-ltsp-br is away: weekend | |
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| 14:36 | <gdi2k> rebooting the server didn't change anything either...
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| 14:36 | <Tegel> ok, did you search for more files named the same? Mabe it's reading from another location?
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| 14:37 | <gdi2k> is lts.conf still the way to set the clients up these days? I ask because I actually had to create the file by hand - it did not exist after the default install
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| 14:37 | <Tegel> hmm, I had one in my Edubuntu install at least
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| 14:38 | <sbalneav> gdi2k: By default, most things should autodetect.
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| 14:38 | However, yes, lts.conf is still the place to set custom things.
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| 14:39 | <Tegel> and you don't have to reboot anything if you change that file?
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| 14:40 | <gdi2k> I always have trouble getting the resolution right on this pc (terminal). usually involves using nvidia drivers instead of nv, then the resolution works ok. but I can't get it to respond to anything I put in lts.conf - as I said earlier, I tried with a 800*600 res, it still remained at 1024*768
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| 14:43 | anyways, thx for your help. will have to give up for this evening and have another go tomorrow (it's late here)...
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| 17:10 | <RoundyT1> ok.
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| 17:10 | finally
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| 17:10 | roundy@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install freenx
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| 17:10 | Password:
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| 17:10 | Reading package lists... Done
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| 17:10 | Building dependency tree
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| 17:10 | Reading state information... Done
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| 17:10 | E: Couldn't find package freenx
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| 17:11 | <cliebow> deb-src http://free.linux.hp.com/~brett/seveas/freenx dapper-seveas freenx
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| 17:11 | add this to your /etc/apt/sources.list
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| 17:11 | <RoundyT1> same place eh?
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| 17:11 | i figured somewhere else
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| 17:11 | lolo
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| 17:12 | <cliebow> at the bottom..or the top..no one really cares..it may show an error but works just the saame\
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| 17:12 | <RoundyT1> crap, how? gedit doesnt work...that's what im used to.
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| 17:12 | <cliebow> use vim?
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| 17:15 | <RoundyT1> how to save?
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| 17:15 | #FREENX
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| 17:15 | deb-src http://free.linux.hp.com/~brett/seveas/freenx dapper-seveas freenx
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| 17:24 | ???
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| 17:25 | <cliebow> esc..then :wq
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| 17:26 | <RoundyT1> got that done, but i type update and nothing happens
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| 17:26 | <cliebow> apt-get update
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| 17:27 | <RoundyT1> Reading package lists... Done
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| 17:27 | W: GPG error: http://free.linux.hp.com dapper-seveas Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 49A120FD1135D466
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| 17:27 | and i tried to add the key with
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| 17:27 | roundy@ubuntu:~$ wget http://free.linux.hp.com/~brett/seveas/freenx/1135D466.gpg -0- | sudo apt-key add -
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| 17:27 | and got this back
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| 17:27 | wget: invalid option -- 0
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| 17:27 | gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
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| 17:28 | <cliebow> it gives that eeror..but should work just the same
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| 17:29 | RoundyT1, you need to google for ubuntu freenx
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| 17:30 | this is a start..google is your friend
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| 17:30 | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=97277&highlight=freenx
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| 17:31 | working on dinner..later...
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| 17:58 | <artista_frustrad> why does it take so long to load the login manager on ltsp5 (debian etch) ??
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| 17:59 | the boot process is not as fast as 4.2 but it is ok
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| 17:59 | but 3 to 5 minutes to load the login manger..
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| 18:02 | is it normal or my server is messed up ??
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| 18:02 | <Tegel> I'm still waiting longer than a day now and still not loading :-)
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| 18:03 | <artista_frustrad> Tegel.. are you serious ??
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| 18:04 | <Tegel> not totally, I have tried several times but only waited 30 minutes for a reaction
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| 18:04 | but when the load-meter isn't even moving, I don't think it will work
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| 18:05 | <artista_frustrad> I've installed ltsp5 on my server since it was already on the repository
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| 18:06 | and now i found out that the packages at ltsp.org for 4.2 are not working on etch.. broken dependencies
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| 18:07 | after login.. the ltsp is quite fast.. not as fast as 4.2 but that was expected..
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| 18:07 | but it takes ages to load the login manager and to autenticate the user
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| 18:09 | <Tegel> then you are more lucky than I am. I can't even get past the first loading screen before the login
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| 18:11 | <artista_frustrad> it is now taking 10 minutes
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| 18:11 | <artista_frustrad> and the lab was suposed to be opened a week ago
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| 18:12 | <es> where can i get the universal network floppy disk?
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| 18:12 | <artista_frustrad> es ??
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| 18:14 | <es> artista_frustrad ese floppy disk q viene con todos los drivers para botear de placas de red
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| 18:55 | <cliebow> Tegel..perhaps commenting out quiet anad splash will let you see some of the machinations..
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| 18:57 | <artista_frustrad> Tegel, I changed my lts.conf based on some ubuntu posts I've found on the net
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| 18:58 | and the time to load the login manager droped to less than half the time
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| 20:48 | <jammcq> hey kids
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| 21:11 | <jammcq> !sbalneav
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| 21:11 | <ltspbot> jammcq: "sbalneav" is Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 21:38 | <bgomes> jammcq: how to use rdesktop in ltsp without use LDM_REMOTECMD, as use in ltsp-4.2 SCREEN_01 = rdesktop <args>
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| 21:39 | rdesktop in ltsp-5
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| 21:41 | <jammcq> bgomes: try SCREEN_07
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| 21:41 | instead of SCREEN_01
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| 21:46 | <bgomes> jammcq: I think this not work
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