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| 07:29 | <Akang> hi all
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| 07:29 | Is anyone can help me to make lab for school with old pc
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| 15:48 | <greavette> Hello All, I'm using screen scripts (screen_07=rdesktop) to auto connect the ltsp session to a Windows VM. It's working very well but I'd like to make it a little more descriptive if a problem occurs. I've noticed if my VM is turned off my ltsp session goes completely blac with only the mouse moving. I'd like to put up a message of somekind to let users know the VM has been turned off and they need to seek assistance....or some k
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| 15:48 | I've found the rdesktop script in /usr/share/ltsp/screen.d/rdesktop. Is this where I can add in code to put up a message if the rdesktop connection fails?
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| 15:53 | <JuJuBee_> alksig: can I copy the contents of a Fresh install on a HD to my server chroot? to make a new image?
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| 15:55 | <alkisg> greavette: yes, you can put it there
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| 15:55 | JuJuBee_: type "al" and then press "tab"
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| 15:55 | <JuJuBee_> alkisg: sorry
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| 15:55 | <alkisg> The name will be autocompleted, so that you don't mistype user names...
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| 15:56 | Sure, you can do that
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| 15:56 | <JuJuBee_> anything special I need to do? I tried it and it failed miserably
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| 15:58 | <pycoderf> hi all. is there an issue with ltsp and ubuntu 14.04? i cant get my clients to boot after a do-upgrade-release
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| 15:59 | <greavette> alkisg: Thank you.
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| 15:59 | <alkisg> JuJuBee_: normally you only have to install the ltsp-client, ldm, ltspfsd packages in the chroot
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| 16:00 | pycoderf: what's the error message?
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| 16:00 | <JuJuBee_> alkisg: so if I boot my client with usb and rsync contents of hd to server then install those pkgs I should be good?
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| 16:01 | <alkisg> There might be upgrades issues... e.g. dnsmasq in 14.04 has yet again broken default configuration (outside of ltsp)
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| 16:01 | <pycoderf> it keeps stating /sbin/init-ltsp is missing which it is not
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| 16:02 | <alkisg> pycoderf: mount -o ro,loop /opt/ltsp/images/i386.img /mnt; ls /mnt/sbin/init-ltsp
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| 16:02 | Is it there?
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| 16:02 | If so, then it means that nbd mounting failed or something
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| 16:03 | JuJuBee_: if you rsync properly, then yes you should be good. A cleanup might be helpful too, inside the chroot, /usr/share/ltsp/ltsp-cleanup
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| 16:04 | <pycoderf> alkisg: on client or server?
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| 16:04 | <JuJuBee_> alkisg: what switches should I use for rsync?
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| 16:04 | <alkisg> pycoderf: server
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| 16:05 | JuJuBee_: it would take a lot of time to answer that properly, so you'd need to google it
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| 16:05 | after the rsync, chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 and ls -lha /dev, and check that the ownership of the devices is correct
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| 16:06 | <pycoderf> yes it shows up
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| 16:06 | <JuJuBee_> alkisg: OK. I will try that monday. just to be safe, if I copy the current /opt/ltsp/amd64 somewhere for safe keeping, I should be able to copy it back if this fails?
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| 16:07 | <alkisg> Move it
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| 16:07 | sudo mv /opt/ltsp /opt/ltsp.bak
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| 16:07 | <JuJuBee_> OK
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| 16:07 | <alkisg> pycoderf: ok then check for errors _before_ the one you mentioned
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| 16:07 | E.g. about nbd errors
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| 16:07 | <pycoderf> i dont see any ont he client
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| 16:07 | <alkisg> You may want to remove quiet-splash
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| 16:07 | !quiet-splash
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| 16:07 | <ltsp> quiet-splash: to disable the splash screen in Ubuntu, in order to see any boot error messages, run sudo gedit /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default and remove quiet splash plymouth:force-splash vt.handoff=7
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| 16:09 | <pycoderf> alkisg: i appears to be stuck at the same place i dont see other issues
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| 16:10 | but i do also see a no init found
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| 16:10 | which is odd
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| 16:10 | <alkisg> pycoderf: do you see messages about nbd, succeeding or not?
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| 16:11 | <pycoderf> mountind /dev/nbd0 on /root failed; no such device
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| 16:11 | <pycoderf> it is odd as this server was working fine before updating to 14/.04
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| 16:12 | <alkisg> So, that's the primary error
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| 16:12 | !nbd-client
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| 16:12 | <ltsp> nbd-client: To try mounting the NBD image from the client initramfs: nbd-client 192.168.67.1 -N /opt/ltsp/i386 /dev/nbd0
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| 16:12 | <alkisg> Try that
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| 16:13 | I think the main problem is wrong nbd-server configuration on the server
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| 16:13 | <pycoderf> whch is odd as it was workign and i did a straight upgrde
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| 16:14 | <alkisg> It's not odd; ltsp frequently has upgrade issues ;)
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| 16:14 | The nbd-server configuration files now have a different header...
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| 16:15 | <pycoderf> hm ok
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| 16:15 | so does that mean ltsp just doesnt work with 14.04 at this time and i should keep my old client images?
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| 16:19 | <alkisg> pycoderf: no, it means you should change 1 line in your server configuration
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| 16:19 | <pycoderf> the nbd server?
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| 16:19 | i did to remove the authfile line
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| 16:23 | <alkisg> What's the first line in ltsp_i386.conf?
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| 16:23 | <pycoderf> am i missing something else
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| 16:23 | [/opt/ltsp/i386]
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| 16:23 | exportname = /opt/ltsp/images/i386.img
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| 16:24 | <alkisg> What did the nbd-client mount command report?
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| 16:24 | !nbd-client
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| 16:24 | <ltsp> nbd-client: To try mounting the NBD image from the client initramfs: nbd-client 192.168.67.1 -N /opt/ltsp/i386 /dev/nbd0
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| 16:24 | <alkisg> bbiab
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| 16:25 | <pycoderf> alkisg: server closed connection
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| 16:40 | <alkisg> pycoderf: and on the server syslog?
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| 16:43 | <pycoderf> it thinks it cant open an auth file but i told it not to use one
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| 16:46 | <alkisg> That warning is not important, ignore it
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| 16:47 | <pycoderf> okt hen i dont see much else
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| 16:48 | <alkisg> Pastebin your pxelinux.cfg/default
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| 16:48 | <pycoderf> if i could i would but i can't copy paste from my vm
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| 16:49 | but essentially its still the stock file
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| 16:49 | no changed
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| 16:49 | <alkisg> apt-get install pastebinit; pastebinit file
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| 16:50 | The stock of 12.04 or of 14.04? They're different
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| 16:50 | <pycoderf> 12.04
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| 16:50 | <alkisg> OK so update it
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| 16:50 | <pycoderf> but i did ltsp-update-kernels
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| 16:50 | and it shows the new kerne;
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| 16:51 | <alkisg> Is your chroot now 14.04?
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| 16:51 | ...check etc/issue
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| 16:51 | <pycoderf> yes
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| 16:51 | chroot is 14.04
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| 16:52 | <alkisg> Upgraded, or new?
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| 16:52 | <pycoderf> upgraded
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| 16:52 | <alkisg> Maybe update-kernels.conf in the chroot then...
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| 16:52 | <pycoderf> where is that
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| 16:53 | <alkisg> etc/ltsp
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| 16:53 | <pycoderf> and what am i supposed to update to? would this be easier to just make a new client image?
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| 16:54 | <alkisg> No idea, you need to pastebin files if we're to help with "what to update and how easy it will be"
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| 16:54 | <pycoderf> i would if i could copy/paste froma vm but i cant
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| 16:54 | <alkisg> scp it, pastebin it etc
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| 16:55 | I already suggested that
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| 16:55 | <pycoderf> ok
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| 16:56 | ok so which file do you want?
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| 16:57 | <alkisg> chroot/etc/ltsp/update-kernels.conf
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| 16:58 | <pycoderf> alkisg: http://pastebin.com/KQNviYS4
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| 16:58 | <alkisg> That is ok, now chroot/boot/ltsp
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| 16:59 | <pycoderf> i dont have ltsp in /boot in the chroot
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| 16:59 | <alkisg> sorry, boot/pxelinux.cfg/ltsp
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| 16:59 | Or better yet, pxelinux.cfg/default there
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| 16:59 | (it'ssupposed to be a symlink to ltsp)
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| 17:00 | (so it might not exist, if so, paste ltsp)
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| 17:00 | <pycoderf> http://pastebin.com/NBpetvBg
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| 17:01 | <alkisg> That's ok too, is that the same as tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default ?
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| 17:03 | <pycoderf> diff showed me nothing so it should be
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| 17:03 | <alkisg> OK, back to nbd on the server: pastebin this: grep -r . /etc/nbd-*
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| 17:04 | <pycoderf> http://pastebin.com/EN4C0rAx
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| 17:06 | <alkisg> !nbd-client
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| 17:06 | <ltsp> nbd-client: To try mounting the NBD image from the client initramfs: nbd-client 192.168.67.1 -N /opt/ltsp/i386 /dev/nbd0
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| 17:06 | <alkisg> When you tried that one, did you put your server ip there?
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| 17:06 | <pycoderf> yes
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| 17:06 | let me try again
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| 17:08 | negotiation size 496MB
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| 17:08 | <alkisg> so what changed from the previous time?
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| 17:08 | <pycoderf> i did a do-release-upgrade on the server
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| 17:09 | then did that on the client as well as upgrade and dist-upgrade
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| 17:09 | <alkisg> No, from then:
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| 17:09 | (07:24:28 μμ) alkisg: What did the nbd-client mount command report?
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| 17:09 | (07:25:59 μμ) pycoderf: alkisg: server closed connection
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| 17:09 | <pycoderf> ltsp-update image and update-kernels
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| 17:09 | then boom
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| 17:09 | start over for that
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| 17:09 | im not following
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| 17:10 | <alkisg> We spend 40 minutes troubleshooting nbd because you said "server closed connection"
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| 17:10 | But now you're saying it does connect
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| 17:10 | <pycoderf> am i looking on the server or client i am not very confused as i am frustrated with this issue
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| 17:10 | plus that was almost an hour ago
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| 17:10 | <alkisg> Right, we lost 40 minutes for that
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| 17:11 | <pycoderf> in any case
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| 17:11 | <alkisg> Anyway, if nbd works, then the problem is in the command line or in dhcp
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| 17:11 | In the client initramfs, check /run/net*.conf, the line about ROOTSERVER
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| 17:11 | Is that your server's ip?
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| 17:12 | <pycoderf> i dont have a /run
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| 17:12 | wait
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| 17:13 | when i do ls /run on the initramfs ntohing shows up
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| 17:14 | <alkisg> OK, back to the server, in pxelinux.cfg/default, add "break=mount" at the line where "quiet splash" is or was
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| 17:14 | Reboot client, you should get an initramfs shell now before the nbd mount command
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| 17:14 | Try again `ls /run` there
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| 17:16 | <pycoderf> ok now i see folders
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| 17:16 | initramfs, udev, plymouth
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| 17:16 | <alkisg> How about something like net-eth0.conf ?
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| 17:16 | <pycoderf> not in /run
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| 17:16 | just those folders
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| 17:16 | <alkisg> in /tmp?
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| 17:17 | <pycoderf> nothing there
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| 17:17 | <alkisg> run: ip a
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| 17:17 | <pycoderf> no ip listed
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| 17:17 | <alkisg> now run: ipconfig
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| 17:18 | <pycoderf> no devices to configure
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| 17:18 | <alkisg> ipconfig eth0
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| 17:19 | <pycoderf> root server = ip of my server
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| 17:19 | <alkisg> ls /run/net*
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| 17:19 | You have a net-eth0.conf now?
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| 17:19 | <pycoderf> yes
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| 17:19 | <alkisg> type: exit
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| 17:19 | Does it boot now?
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| 17:20 | <pycoderf> "Insufficient information to setup nbd"
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| 17:20 | and then same error
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| 17:20 | <alkisg> In ipconfig, did you get the rootpath=/opt/ltsp/i386 ?
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| 17:20 | <pycoderf> yes
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| 17:21 | <alkisg> Type the things beside "insufficient information"
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| 17:21 | <pycoderf> it already scrolled past
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| 17:21 | <alkisg> What was the nbd server, rootpath etc that it mentions there
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| 17:21 | Hmm
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| 17:21 | <pycoderf> they were blank there
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| 17:21 | <alkisg> Shift +page up?
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| 17:21 | <pycoderf> yeah those are blank
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| 17:21 | <alkisg> All of them?!
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| 17:21 | <pycoderf> except nbd-device
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| 17:22 | which is /dev/nbd0
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| 17:22 | <alkisg> Is /run/net-eth0.conf still available? cat it
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| 17:22 | <pycoderf> no longer available
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| 17:22 | <alkisg> OK, re-do that once more, reboot, run ipconfig eth0, cat net-eth0.conf
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| 17:23 | Is your client and server i386?
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| 17:23 | Or amd64?
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| 17:23 | <pycoderf> i catted it and it is filled in correctly
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| 17:23 | server is 64 bit image is 386
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| 17:23 | this is how it was setup previously
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| 17:23 | and worked
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| 17:23 | <alkisg> And rootpath is i386, not amd64, correct?
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| 17:23 | <pycoderf> yes
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| 17:24 | ROOTPATH='/opt/ltsp/i386'
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| 17:24 | <alkisg> and, cat /proc/cmdline, what does it say about nbd there?
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| 17:24 | Only root=/dev/nbd0 ?
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| 17:24 | <pycoderf> yes
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| 17:27 | i think the update just borked it
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| 17:31 | <alkisg> Update or not, with the correct command line and dhcp information, nbd was supposed to correctly mount the image
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| 17:32 | <pycoderf> which fails
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| 17:32 | <alkisg> Right, so it's either an nbd initramfs script bug, or some wrong information between us due to irc
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| 17:32 | <pycoderf> but i gave you all the configs and errors
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| 17:32 | <alkisg> (and not debugging this hands-on)
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| 17:32 | <pycoderf> i am going to try and scrap all images and just start clean
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| 17:33 | <alkisg> E.g. I haven't seen the command line
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| 17:33 | I haven't seen net-eth0.conf, etc
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| 17:33 | <pycoderf> better yet will do it on a clean server install of 14.04
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| 17:33 | <alkisg> OK
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| 22:35 | <daniel_3000> hello
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| 22:41 | <daniel_3000> i have a cuestion about to LTSP
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| 23:03 | <ajbotani> Good night! Does anyone know a solution to use the new LTSP with older terminals that do not support PAE?
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