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Channel log from 28 October 2008 (all times are UTC)
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| 06:40 | <ninou> in debian lenny, how do i activate lodaing initramfs with nbd root ?
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| 06:43 | <gate_keeper_> any positive reactions of using ltsp+kerberos? :)
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| 06:45 | <ogra> should there be negative ones ?
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| 06:48 | <gate_keeper_> :)
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| 06:49 | <ogra> ltsp just uses ssh as backend, so whatever you can make ssh use for authentication will be fine
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| 06:49 | and afaik kerberos and ssh go well with each other
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| 07:37 | <cliebow> !bts
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| 07:37 | <ltspbot> cliebow: "bts" is LTSP By The Sea 2008: http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/ByTheSea2008
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| 08:33 | <Gadi> ogra: ping
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| 08:33 | <ogra> Gadi, ?
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| 08:33 | <Gadi> morning, et al
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| 08:33 | <ogra> afternoon :)
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| 08:33 | <Gadi> ogra: is this what you had in mind when you mentioned to me xrandr?
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| 08:33 | <ltsppbot> "Gadi" pasted "rc.d init script for xrandr support" (40 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/76
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| 08:34 | <Gadi> of course, with the "echo" removed from the last line
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| 08:34 | (that was for testing)
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| 08:34 | <ogra> thats a lot
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| 08:35 | i would have just gone with a detection tool for the right output and the size settings
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| 08:35 | <Gadi> doesn't regular xorg do that?
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| 08:35 | * ogra wonders if anyone would ever use rotate, reflect etc | |
| 08:36 | <Gadi> well, with this, you could do: XRANDR_OUTPUT_0 = "VGA --left-of LVDS"
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| 08:36 | crap like that
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| 08:36 | <ogra> xrandr 1280x600
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| 08:36 | <Gadi> and have multihead for free
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| 08:36 | <ogra> thats what you do with standard X
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| 08:36 | <Gadi> ah
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| 08:36 | <ogra> multihead wnt work without xorg.conf
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| 08:36 | <Gadi> thats not true
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| 08:36 | <ogra> you need the "Virtual" option for it
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| 08:36 | <Gadi> some drivers support it with xrandr
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| 08:37 | are you sure thats true for all drivers?
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| 08:37 | <ogra> yes, without it it will automatically clone the displays
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| 08:37 | <Gadi> ah
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| 08:38 | I guess it has to preallocate the memory
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| 08:38 | <ogra> for a merged mode "Virtual" is needed with the proper size of the full desktop you want
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| 08:38 | <Gadi> xrandr cannot do color depth, right?
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| 08:38 | that requires a xorg.conf as well
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| 08:39 | can "Virtual" be passed on the Xorg command line?
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| 08:39 | it would be nice not to require the conf file
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| 08:39 | <ogra> i doubt that, but i'll ask the Xorg team later if they are up
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| 08:40 | <Gadi> I guess we could have a xorg.conf for just the driver section
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| 08:41 | or some such
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| 08:41 | <ogra> well, Virtual sits in the Screen section
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| 08:41 | <Gadi> ah
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| 08:41 | <ogra> so you need Display, Driver and Screen sections
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| 08:41 | <Gadi> and virtual should be in both screen sections for dualhead?
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| 08:42 | <ogra> no
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| 08:42 | only once
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| 08:43 | <Gadi> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Xorg_RandR_1.2
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| 08:43 | got it
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| 08:43 | <ogra> oh, right, its Display, not Screen
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| 08:44 | <Gadi> well, Display within Screen
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| 08:44 | so you're right both ways ;)
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| 08:44 | <ogra> heh
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| 08:44 | well, so back to your script
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| 08:45 | the main issue is that we should autodetect the available outputs and the available modes for them
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| 08:45 | <Gadi> right
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| 08:45 | which xrandr does
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| 08:45 | <ogra> right just a call to xrandr and parsing the output properly should do
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| 08:45 | <Gadi> and we should probably configure multihead if both monitors are connected
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| 08:45 | (if possible)
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| 08:46 | <ogra> then we always should default to the default screen/output if the user doesnt override
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| 08:46 | and if a wrong mode is selected fall back to the best mode
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| 08:46 | <Gadi> well, a lot of that behavior is default behavior of xrandr
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| 08:46 | especially if we run: xrandr --auto
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| 08:46 | but even without it
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| 08:46 | <ogra> but wasnt tested in ltsp context yet
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| 08:46 | so we need to make sure it works
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| 08:47 | <ogra> i'd like to see something that calls xrandr --auto early in jaunty though
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| 08:47 | <Gadi> will a call to xrandr --auto do anything different than a default Xorg with no conf file?
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| 08:50 | <ogra> no idea, thats what i'd like to find out
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| 08:52 | <Nubae> ogra: did u get my edubuntu background? wasnt sure who to send it to, so sorry if I clogged your mail...
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| 08:53 | <ogra> Nubae, well, its to late for intrepid but its sweet
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| 08:54 | <Nubae> shame there is no prancing penguin release or some such :D
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| 08:56 | <PiIgrim> howdy all, question .. what is wrong in what configs if the client boots and it's loading /tftpboot/bzimage ... and keeps putting points slowly, very slowly ... as in .. in 20 minutes 6 points
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| 08:56 | ?
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| 08:56 | dots ..
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| 09:04 | <cliebow> Pilgrim:did you try with a croossover to eliminate network idiosyncrasies?
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| 09:46 | <sbalneav> Morning all
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| 09:47 | <Gadi> !s
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| 09:47 | <ltspbot> Gadi: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 09:47 | <sbalneav> hey hey hey
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| 09:47 | <alkisg> morning sbalneav!
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| 09:47 | ogra, about the HOSTNAME we were talking the other day, it's just fine as it is after all. ipconfig calls sethostname() and the script then correctly reads it from /proc/sys/kernel/hostname. So it *works* with kernel parameter ip=:::::hostname::, but it doesn't work (and it shouldn't!!!) with HOSTNAME=xxxx.
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| 09:48 | <ogra> ah, great
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| 09:48 | <alkisg> Does anyone know which script reads lts.conf?
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| 09:48 | <ogra> thanks for investigating :)
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| 09:48 | !s
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| 09:48 | <ltspbot> ogra: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 09:48 | <alkisg> (I mean the parsing)
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| 09:48 | <ogra> alkisg, no script, its a C binary called getltscgf
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| 09:48 | *cfg
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| 09:48 | <alkisg> Uh... how can I investigate why it doesn't read the [hostname] section?
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| 09:49 | (if the hostname is passed as a kernel parameter, but I don't think it should matter)
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| 09:49 | <Gadi> alkisg: does "hostname" in a shell match the hostname in lts.conf exactly?
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| 09:49 | after boot
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| 09:50 | <ogra> might be that it doesnt go into /etc/hosts
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| 09:50 | <alkisg> Gadi, yes
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| 09:50 | ogra, it does! :(
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| 09:50 | 127.0.0.2 hostname
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| 09:50 | <ogra> ah, i guess loopback isnt up by then
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| 09:51 | <Gadi> alkisg: do: getltscfg <param>
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| 09:51 | from a shell
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| 09:51 | <alkisg> Gadi, thanks, that's what I needed!!! :)
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| 09:54 | <prpplague> anyone here from the early early days of ltsp?
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| 09:56 | <Gadi> prpplague: how early is early?
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| 09:56 | I'm circa LTSP 3.0
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| 09:56 | :)
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| 09:57 | <prpplague> Gadi: there was a predecessor to ltspcfg, but i can't recall the name of it
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| 09:57 | <Gadi> u mean a predecessor to getltscfg?
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| 09:57 | ltspcfg was the script on the server
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| 09:57 | for configuring server procs
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| 09:59 | <prpplague> ahh yep that was it, thanks
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| 10:06 | <cliebow> Gadi:Can i borrow your cane?
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| 10:07 | <Gadi> hehe
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| 10:07 | only if youre able
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| 10:07 | (sorry - biblical humor ;) )
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| 10:07 | <cliebow> hee hee
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| 10:07 | wrng cain
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| 10:07 | <Gadi> wrong abel ;)
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| 10:07 | <cliebow> wooo.this is going downhill fast
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| 10:08 | <Gadi> that's what he said
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| 10:08 | <cliebow> i get my religion from thre woods elves..
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| 10:09 | <Gadi> better than from the garden gnomes
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| 10:09 | <cliebow> weehhee!
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| 10:10 | got to get the last incompletew sentence in here
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| 10:28 | <sbalneav> Sorry, but the last incomplete sentence belo
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| 10:28 | <cliebow> hah
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| 10:29 | <sbalneav> h
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| 10:29 | (let's see you do half a letter, smart guy :)
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| 10:30 | <sbalneav> So, point of order we need to debate, and come up with proper procedure on.
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| 10:31 | When putting a smiley at the end of a parenthesized remark, does the "smile" count as the closing parenthesis? Or is another parenthesis needed to close the remark, and if so, how much white space should appear between the smiley, and the closing parenthesis
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| 10:31 | So:
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| 10:31 | (This is a remark :)
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| 10:31 | or
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| 10:31 | (This is a remark :))
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| 10:31 | Or
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| 10:31 | (This is a remark :) )
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| 10:32 | * ogra usually goes with the latter | |
| 10:32 | <sbalneav> Inquiring minds want to know.
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| 10:32 | <ogra> to distinguish the smiley from a double chin smiley :)
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| 10:33 | <sbalneav> So, like, when I'm smiling, say :)
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| 10:33 | <loather> the midle one
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| 10:33 | <sbalneav> :) ) <- Smiley at end of comment
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| 10:33 | <sbalneav> :)) Scott Smiling
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| 10:33 | <ogra> lol
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| 10:33 | <sbalneav> :|) Scott Neutral
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| 10:33 | :() Scott Frowney
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| 10:33 | <loather> see, i grew a beard to cover my fatass face :)
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| 10:34 | <sbalneav> My wife won't let me :()
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| 10:34 | <loather> mine encouraged it
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| 10:35 | <sbalneav> So, we have one vote for :)), and one for :) )
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| 10:35 | Any other comments from the floor?
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| 10:35 | <loather> it grows fast though, so i should have a full unix beard by the end of the year. we'll see how long i can tolerate it.
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| 10:36 | <sbalneav> Gadi: Surely you have some thoughts on this burning issue of national, nay, global importance?
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| 10:37 | cliebow: As a beareded member of our merry band of tricksters, do you have any thoughts on this subject?
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| 10:38 | <Appiah> Does anyone have experince or a howto on setting "global settings" on OpenOffice for all users on a server?
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| 10:40 | <sbalneav> Yes! I do, as a metter of fact.
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| 10:41 | Appiah: There's no howto, and quite frankly, the way I do it is probably completely wrong, but I haven't been able to find any resources on a better way to accomplish it.
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| 10:41 | Here's what I do:
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| 10:42 | <Appiah> I could figure out a couple ways but they feel "wrong" too
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| 10:42 | It adds extra administration if I wanna add a new user ... etc
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| 10:42 | <sbalneav> As a "clean" user (i.e. no previous .openoffice.org2 directory in their home dir) I set up OO.o the way I want.
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| 10:43 | <Appiah> like a template user
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| 10:44 | <sbalneav> once that's done, I cp -r ~user/.openoffice.org2/* /usr/lib/openoffice/presets
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| 10:48 | <sbalneav> Any new users of openoffice will then get all my preset defaults.
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| 10:48 | <alkisg> sbalneav, good one!
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| 10:48 | <sbalneav> openoffice USED to have an -admin switch that would set global options, but they don't seem to have it anymore.
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| 10:49 | <alkisg> something like that for firefox?
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| 10:49 | <sbalneav> alkisg: Well, maybe not. You'd lose stuff with an oo.o package upgrade
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| 10:49 | <sbalneav> firefox is way easier
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| 10:49 | <alkisg> E.g. disable the download dialog showing after each download, for all users
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| 10:50 | <sbalneav> all you have to do is drop a user.js with your customizations (home page, disable download manager, proxy, etc) in /usr/lib/firefox/defaults/profile
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| 10:50 | <alkisg> perfect! Thanks!
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| 10:51 | <sbalneav> With thunderbird, you just drop an rdf file in /usr/lib/thunderbird/isp/<yoursettings>.rdf, then the wizard gives you the option of setting up a custom account.
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| 10:51 | hold on, I'll pastebot some stuff
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| 10:52 | <ltsppbot> "sbalneav" pasted "legalaid.rdf" (59 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/77
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| 10:53 | <Appiah> I'll think try that sbalneav , thank you
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| 10:54 | <sbalneav> So, if you put that one file in /usr/lib/thunderbird/isp, people running thunderbird for the first time get an option in the account setup for "Legal Aid Manitoba Email", they pick that, and all defaults are set up.
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| 10:54 | hold on, I'll paste the user.js as well
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| 10:56 | <ltsppbot> "sbalneav" pasted "user.js" (17 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/78
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| 10:56 | <sbalneav> that defaults the home page, proxy, no disk cache, etc.
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| 10:57 | it's got no effect against people who already HAVE their firfox or thunderbird set up, but it does make sure that NEW users get a proper default config.
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| 10:58 | OpenOffice.org REALLY needs to get some admin tools. It's a great single user tool right now, but deploying it in multiuser environments is a PITA right now.
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| 10:59 | <sbalneav> No real support for things like deploying custom configs, setting global styles, etc.
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| 10:59 | What they need is a command line registry tool, like gconftool-2 that allows admins to set user, default, and mandatory settings
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| 11:01 | <cliebow> `
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| 11:03 | sorry..doing actual work..
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| 11:03 | <johnny> that's sabayon sbalneav ..
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| 11:04 | err.. guess that's not cli..
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| 11:04 | but it does have specifics for open office configs
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| 11:05 | <sbalneav> Sabayon does openoffice stuff?
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| 11:05 | <johnny> i think the whole usage of ~..config is going to help deploy configs now that all gnomeish apps are moving in that direction
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| 11:05 | <sbalneav> Since when?
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| 11:05 | <johnny> since awhile
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| 11:05 | over ay ear
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| 11:05 | i didn't get to do much this cycle, since the gio bindings for python were non existant during almost the entire cycle :(
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| 11:06 | plus i just didn't have time :(
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| 11:06 | <sbalneav> How's it doing it, seeing as how OpenOffice doesn't do gconf?
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| 11:06 | <johnny> still using a .ooo directory or whatever
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| 11:06 | but it knows how to parse the ooo config
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| 11:06 | and generate one
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| 11:06 | it also has specifics for firefox
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| 11:06 | but not for thunderbird
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| 11:06 | altho it should
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| 11:07 | it will be a great day as more apps move to .local, .cache, and .config directories :)
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| 11:07 | much easier to handle
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| 11:07 | f-spot will use it during the next release
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| 11:07 | i wish i could get some sort of fundage to work on these kinda issues :(
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| 11:08 | we also need another config file for storage of the profiles :(
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| 11:09 | i'd say that's the biggest blocker..
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| 11:09 | <johnny> for sabayon
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| 11:09 | it's zip files.. since tar doesn't let you pull out only specific files
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| 11:09 | but zip doesn't store permissions or extended attributes or anything else useful :)
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| 11:09 | it would also choke up on fifos and other device types
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| 11:12 | <sbalneav> I'll have to test that and see if it works. I was doing so much stuff outside of sabayon, because we deploy custom macro packages, custom toolbars, etc. within Ooo, which sabayon didn't handle, that I just started doing everything with gconf.
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| 11:12 | <sbalneav> since it didn't make sense to do half the config in one tool, and half at the command line.
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| 11:12 | <jammcq> hello friends
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| 11:12 | <sbalneav> Hey jammcq
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| 11:13 | <jammcq> Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 11:13 | <sbalneav> johnny: So, the config parsing tool within sabayon, is that integrated within sabayon, or is it a standalone part that can be called from the command line?
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| 11:22 | <cliebow> i only sort a beard cause im to lazy to shave..
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| 11:22 | /sort/sport
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| 11:24 | <Gadi> sorry, sbalneav, was working :P
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| 11:24 | but, there's my answer to smileys - just stick out ur tongue
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| 11:29 | <ogra> ÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖ
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| 11:29 | there you got some :)
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| 11:30 | or ääääää üüüüüüü ... if you prefer these
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| 11:31 | <cliebow> the latter
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| 11:31 | ;-]
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| 11:37 | <johnny> sbalneav, it uses the standard openoffice dialog i think.. it's not cli
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| 11:38 | it just allows you to store the result in teh profile
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| 11:56 | <Gadi> johnny: you can pull specific files from tar
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| 11:56 | it was designed for that
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| 11:58 | <sbalneav> So, in the end, it's the same thing I'm doing. Just copying files around.
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| 12:34 | <gate_keeper_> still having lo huge traffic problem
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| 12:34 | while running applications
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| 12:34 | couple of Mbits per user
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| 12:36 | 6011 ports
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| 12:36 | x11
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| 12:41 | <gate_keeper_> any ideas?
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| 12:42 | <cliebow> hrriumph
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| 13:15 | <sbalneav> I like how gatekeeper only hung around for 20 minutes
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| 13:23 | <cliebow> sbalneav:should i know of him
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| 13:23 | ?
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| 13:29 | <sbalneav> Nah, I'm just always surprised to see people who don't seem to understand the "ask a question, idle 3 hours" rule.
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| 13:32 | <dberkholz> seriously.
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| 13:35 | <Appiah> If i'd like to share some "best practices" solutions and have people dicuss about them , helping, imporoving them togheter, is there a place for that on the Wiki?
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| 13:35 | or some forum?
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| 13:36 | <ogra> the mailing list
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| 13:37 | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss
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| 13:37 | <Appiah> thanks
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| 14:05 | <jarias> hello
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| 14:07 | <Basti_dash> hello
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| 14:07 | <cosf> hello
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| 14:07 | <Lns> hello
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| 14:07 | <ogra> hello
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| 14:08 | <jarias> we are trying to reduce de ubuntu instalator steps
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| 14:09 | and...we are using preseed
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| 14:10 | the CD was created, but it's not bootable
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| 14:11 | sorry about my really bad english :P but we are from #EdulinuxChile a Chilean Edubuntu based distribution
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| 14:12 | maybe this isn't the channel to this question...but what is??
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| 14:13 | <ogra> jarias, probably #ubuntu-installer ...
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| 14:14 | <jarias> thx!
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| 14:14 | we are going there right now
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| 14:38 | <Robert33> Good afternoon
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| 14:38 | <cliebow> ho!
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| 14:39 | <Robert33> Is anyone here is LTSP on OpenSuse or SLES?
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| 14:40 | <cliebow> rjune has been sledding..
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| 14:41 | <Robert33> I have been trying to get it to work, but on OpenSuse everytime I try and build my own netboot image I get an error when the client boots that the kernel versions do not match
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| 14:42 | <johnny> cyberorg is the person who knows about it
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| 14:42 | with kiwi-ltsp
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| 14:43 | <Robert33> Thanks johnny
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| 14:44 | <Gadi> Robert33: did you follow: http://en.opensuse.org/LTSP
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| 14:44 | doh
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| 14:44 | !opensuse
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| 14:44 | <ltspbot> Gadi: Error: "opensuse" is not a valid command.
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| 14:44 | <Gadi> !kiwi-ltsp
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| 14:44 | <ltspbot> Gadi: Error: "kiwi-ltsp" is not a valid command.
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| 14:45 | <cliebow> !hellsbells
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| 14:45 | <Gadi> !learn opensuse http://en.opensuse.org/LTSP
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| 14:45 | <ltspbot> cliebow: Error: "hellsbells" is not a valid command.
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| 14:45 | Gadi: Invalid arguments for learn.
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| 14:45 | <Gadi> !help learn
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| 14:45 | <ltspbot> Gadi: (learn [<channel>] <key> as <value>) -- Associates <key> with <value>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. The word 'as' is necessary to separate the key from the value. It can be changed to another word via the learnSeparator registry value.
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| 14:45 | <Gadi> !learn opensuse as http://en.opensuse.org/LTSP
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| 14:45 | <ltspbot> Gadi: The operation succeeded.
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| 14:45 | <Gadi> !opensuse
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| 14:45 | <ltspbot> Gadi: "opensuse" is http://en.opensuse.org/LTSP
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| 14:45 | <cliebow> weee
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| 14:45 | <Gadi> too easy
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| 14:47 | <johnny> like your mom
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| 14:47 | too easy..
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| 14:47 | :)
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| 14:48 | <pscheie> Gadi, make one for kiwi too; I think that's easier to remember & type
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| 14:48 | <johnny> !kiwi-ltsp
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| 14:48 | <ltspbot> johnny: Error: "kiwi-ltsp" is not a valid command.
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| 14:48 | <johnny> !kiwi
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| 14:48 | <ltspbot> johnny: Error: "kiwi" is not a valid command.
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| 14:48 | <johnny> be nice to have aliases for commands
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| 14:49 | <cliebow> !learn kiwi as http://en.opensuse.org/LTSP
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| 14:49 | <ltspbot> cliebow: The operation succeeded.
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| 14:49 | <Gadi> !learn kiwi as http://en.opensuse.org/LTSP
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| 14:49 | <ltspbot> Gadi: The operation succeeded.
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| 14:49 | <cliebow> heh
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| 14:49 | <Gadi> !learn kiwi-ltsp as http://en.opensuse.org/LTSP
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| 14:49 | <ltspbot> Gadi: The operation succeeded.
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| 14:49 | <Gadi> johnny: yo mama's thin client's so fat...
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| 14:51 | <Lns> lol Gadi
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| 14:52 | * Lns sees a bunch of "yo' WinCE thinclient is so fat" jokes formulating | |
| 14:52 | <vagrantc> !kiwi
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| 14:52 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "kiwi" is (#1) http://en.opensuse.org/LTSP, or (#2) http://en.opensuse.org/LTSP
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| 14:52 | <babyhuey> anyone know why i cant get ldm to connect?
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| 14:53 | <vagrantc> ltspbot: unlearn kiwi
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| 14:53 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: Error: "unlearn" is not a valid command.
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| 14:53 | <babyhuey> i get a segfault every time i hit authenticate
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| 14:53 | <vagrantc> ltspbot: forget kiwi
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| 14:53 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: Error: 2 factoids have that key. Please specify which one to remove, or use * to designate all of them.
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| 14:53 | <vagrantc> ltspbot: forget kiwi 2
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| 14:53 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: The operation succeeded.
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| 14:53 | <vagrantc> !kiwi
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| 14:53 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "kiwi" is http://en.opensuse.org/LTSP
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| 14:53 | <Gadi> vagrantc: ur so good at cleaning up my messes
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| 14:53 | ;)
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| 14:53 | <vagrantc> not just yours :)
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| 14:53 | <Lns> lol
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| 14:54 | Of course - he's a Debian guy. :p
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| 14:54 | <vagrantc> heh
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| 14:54 | of course, now we're maintaining the location information for kwiki ltsp in 3 different places ... hopefully it won't change.
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| 14:55 | er, kiwi
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| 14:55 | * Lns is building a new Etch mx/dns/http/etc server right now and remembers how nice it is to work w/Debian | |
| 14:55 | <vagrantc> i must say, every other distro i've ever had to work with makes me appreciate debian more.
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| 14:56 | * Lns agrees wholeheartedly | |
| 14:56 | <babyhuey> (ldmgtkgreet:5123): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_strlcpy: assertion `src != NULL' failed
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| 14:56 | ssh: None: Name or service not known
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| 14:56 | is the error i get
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| 14:56 | <Lns> Ubuntu really is pretty close when you talk Desktop though. I think Ubuntu desktop ease == Debian server ease
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| 14:56 | <vagrantc> babyhuey: distro and release?
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| 14:57 | <babyhuey> ubuntu 8.04
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| 14:57 | ltsp 5 fresh install
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| 14:57 | im chrooted into the ltsp directory
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| 14:59 | <Gadi> babyhuey: you cannot run ldm by chrooting into the ltsp directory
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| 14:59 | it must run on the thin client
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| 14:59 | <babyhuey> i want to test this before i replace the old server
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| 14:59 | is there a way i can do it?
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| 15:00 | <Gadi> virtual thin client?
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| 15:00 | <Gadi> or crossover cable to actual thin client
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| 15:00 | :)
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| 15:01 | <babyhuey> is there a way i can get it to connect without using dhcp?
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| 15:01 | <Gadi> I don't get what u mean
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| 15:01 | <babyhuey> i dont want dhcp running on the ltsp server, as i have one on another server, how can i go about getting it to connect
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| 15:02 | <Gadi> well, you could configure the other ltsp server with the porper directives
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| 15:02 | *proper
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| 15:02 | next-server, filename, etc
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| 15:03 | <Gadi> crap- gotta run
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| 15:03 | ciao
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| 15:04 | <alkisg> babyhuey, can you insert next-server, filename and root-path to the other server?
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| 15:11 | vagrantc, hostname works fine after all, it just needs to be set with ip=<ip>:<server>:<gw>:<mask>:<hostname>:<nic>:none (and not with a HOSTNAME=xxx param like I was trying...). I was able to succesfully boot clients this way, I only had to copy lts.conf to /var/lib/tftpboot. Thanks!!!
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| 15:11 | <vagrantc> alkisg: ah, good.
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| 15:11 | <alkisg> So don't change anything, it works fine!!! :)
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| 15:12 | <vagrantc> yeah, the way klibc's ipconfig parses the ip parameter is awesome :)
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| 15:12 | makes everything really easy.
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| 15:12 | <babyhuey> hmm, got that setup but now it isnt booting the tftp
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| 15:13 | <alkisg> babyhuey, you put the needed parameters to your other dhcp server?
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| 15:13 | <babyhuey> option option-128 i see that, but dont know what that is for
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| 15:13 | and option-129
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| 15:14 | <alkisg> Your other dhcp server is a linux one? You'll need a filename, no option-128 and 129...
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| 15:14 | <babyhuey> that was how it was originally set up
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| 15:15 | <babyhuey> i got PXE-T01: File not found
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| 15:15 | <alkisg> On which server? You have /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0 in your "other" server?
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| 15:16 | Or you made it point to the ltsp one?
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| 15:16 | <babyhuey> yea, there is a pxelinux.0
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| 15:18 | <alkisg> OK, you have (1) a linux-based dhcp server and (2) an ltsp server, right? Can you paste (in ltsp pastebot) the dhcpd.conf from the dhcp server?
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| 15:18 | !pastebot
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| 15:18 | <ltspbot> alkisg: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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| 15:19 | <ltsppbot> "babyhuey" pasted "group { use-host-decl-names on" (12 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/79
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| 15:20 | <alkisg> and 192.168.0.190 is your ltsp server?
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| 15:20 | <babyhuey> yep
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| 15:20 | <alkisg> filename is wrong, you should point to pxelinux.0
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| 15:21 | option root-path "/opt/ltsp/i386";
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| 15:21 | filename "/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0";
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| 15:22 | <babyhuey> hey how about that
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| 15:22 | got a little further
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| 15:22 | wait there it goes
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| 15:23 | what is the easiest way to make it super fast
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| 15:23 | it just has to run one thing
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| 15:23 | <alkisg> Heh... the magic of remote booting! :)
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| 15:23 | What do you mean? To load things locally and not from the network?
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| 15:24 | <babyhuey> no, i just want the bootup to be like 3 seconds
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| 15:24 | this isnt bad
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| 15:24 | woah, vmware is messing up like mad
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| 15:24 | every second is a minute
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| 15:24 | what is goign on lol
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| 15:25 | <alkisg> babyhuey, if you can make an OS boot up in 3 seconds, do tell me how you did it... :)
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| 15:26 | <babyhuey> put it on a flash drive
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| 15:26 | with nothing that loads at boot
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| 15:26 | ive done it
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| 15:26 | its fun
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| 15:26 | but nothing is loaded by default
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| 15:27 | <Lns> babyhuey: that sure isn't a very interesting system then
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| 15:28 | <babyhuey> no
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| 15:28 | but if you just want to load firefox its nice
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| 15:29 | man i cant type
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| 15:29 | everytime i hit a letter it puts 12 of them on there
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| 15:30 | <alkisg> babyhuey, try virtualbox, it runs fine
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| 15:30 | <babyhuey> yea, i may do that
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| 15:30 | one more question, where do i set which programs start at boot?
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| 15:32 | <alkisg> You mean instead of the greeter?
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| 15:32 | <babyhuey> no, that one is fine
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| 15:32 | i want a program to start at boot
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| 15:32 | these are used as clock in machines, and it just needs to run that program and that one only
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| 15:33 | <alkisg> So, you mean instead of the greeter then! You don't need a logon screen...
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| 15:33 | <babyhuey> no, after the login screen, i want a program to run
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| 15:33 | <alkisg> After the users log on?
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| 15:34 | <babyhuey> yes
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| 15:36 | <alkisg> In /usr/share/autostart on the server, it's not different from non-ltsp systems...
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| 15:36 | <babyhuey> OH ALRIGHT
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| 15:36 | woops, sorry caps
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| 15:38 | * Lns is loving this whole debian volatile thing | |
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| 16:03 | <warren> stgraber: you added "Add module-suspend-on-idle to the list of PulseAudio modules (so running audacity as localapp works)" because audacity cannot work through alsa-plugin-pulseaudio?
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| 16:03 | stgraber: relying on pulseaudio to suspend is a bit of a hack...
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| 16:19 | <stgraber> warren: it's a hack but it may help quite a few application to run correctly as localapps
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| 16:19 | warren: implementing pulseaudio in portaudio (audacity's sound library) wasn't really an option so ...
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| 16:20 | <warren> oh
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| 16:20 | stgraber: what about the AlSA to pulseaudio plugin?
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| 16:20 | <stgraber> doesn't work, it works the first time you try, then you stop recording and start playing a sound and audacity just freeze
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| 16:21 | <warren> nice =(
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| 16:21 | <stgraber> audacity is mentioned in Pulseaudio's wiki in the list of application that don't work with pulse at all and they are the one who proposed the suspend-on-idle option :)
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| 16:31 | <warren> stgraber: vagrantc: ogra: I have to tag ltsp-trunk late today.
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| 16:32 | * vagrantc was thinking of a new round of uploads soonish | |
| 16:33 | <warren> I might upload some changes to ldm tonight as well
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| 16:33 | <vagrantc> though everything's committed, so no need to hold up for me.
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| 16:33 | <warren> changes wont effect other people
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| 16:33 | <vagrantc> there may be a bug in current ldm-trunk introduced with Ryan52's latest patches that i pushed.
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| 16:34 | <warren> how well tested is the new ldminfod Xsession part?
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| 16:34 | oh
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| 16:34 | ?
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| 16:34 | vagrantc: does it poll over the ssh socket looking for Xsession if ldminfod failed to tell it?
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| 16:34 | <vagrantc> warren: no, it falls back to the previous behavior.
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| 16:34 | so it's not a complete implementation yet
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| 16:34 | <warren> oh
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| 16:34 | what is the bug?
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| 16:34 | <vagrantc> but at least it pulls it from the server if given.
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| 16:36 | warren: something not being freed ... let me see if i can find the error message
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| 16:36 | <warren> memory leak?
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| 16:36 | <vagrantc> Oct 27 19:12:04 ltsp ldm: *** glibc detected *** ldm: free(): invalid pointer: 0x088c8c30 ***
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| 16:37 | <warren> oh
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| 16:37 | <vagrantc> how bad is that likely to be?
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| 16:38 | <warren> doesn't that mean ldm crashes?
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| 16:38 | <vagrantc> works fine as far as i can tell.
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| 16:39 | maybe it's one of those "crashes after it's done logging you out" sort of things, and i don't really notice.
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| 16:39 | <vagrantc> i wouldn't have pushed that major of a change without testing :)
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