IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 20 December 2006 (all times are UTC)
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| 02:42 | <str4nd_> hmph...
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| 02:42 | <str4nd_> why my edgy install cd says: "BusyBox ... Cant access tty; job control turned of"
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| 04:46 | <LokR> hi everyone
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| 04:46 | I've got a problem with my lts.conf could someone help please :s
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| 04:48 | :(
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| 04:48 | isn't there anyone?
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| 04:51 | <sep> LokR, you can't expect answers when you have not asked anything.
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| 04:52 | <LokR> ok sep
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| 04:53 | my problem is that the [default] part of the lts.conf is used but not the machine-specific part
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| 04:54 | (I hope you understand me, my english is probably bad)
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| 04:55 | <sep> LokR, so you give your hosts a static adders and hostname in dhcp, have a working and correct dns, and use the hostname in lts.conf ?
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| 04:55 | personaly i just use the mac address in lts.conf but i think that's only the the newer ltsp's
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| 04:56 | <LokR> i use ltsp 4.1,, i didn't know that we could pass the mac address
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| 04:56 | <sep> dont think you can there
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| 04:56 | not certain
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| 04:56 | <LokR> whoops :(
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| 04:57 | in fact, I didn't setup this ltsp server, I just arrived in a place where I must improve a alrready made setup
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| 04:57 | sep, when i ping the machine name precised in lts.conf it works is that enough?
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| 04:58 | <sep> LokR, hmm actualy i think you can try
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| 04:58 | <LokR> ok i try with MAC address and come back after
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| 04:58 | anyway thank you for your answer
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| 05:02 | <DivFMprepro> great sep! it works
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| 05:02 | thank you
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| 05:02 | <killsalad> hi all
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| 05:02 | <DivFMprepro> So, I'm going to continue working
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| 05:02 | hi killsalad
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| 05:04 | <killsalad> has anybody problem with xdmcp (gdm,LTSP-4.2u2) and ubuntu 6.10 ?
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| 05:22 | <kgoetz> if i build my ltsp chroot with --dist=edgy could i use the netboot-but-runs-local ltsp stuff?
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| 07:13 | <muh2000> error with XKB-config
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| 07:14 | <muh2000> keyboard etc is working... i dont know what that error should say to me...
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| 07:16 | thats the error: http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/4894/bildschirmfotope3.png
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| 07:35 | <muh2000> brb
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| 07:44 | <DivFMprepro> Hi everyone,
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| 07:45 | DivFMprepro is now known as LokR | |
| 07:45 | <LokR> I use nasd with ltsp and I can't record using audacity
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| 07:46 | would someone know how to help me? :p
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| 07:51 | ltsp 4.1
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| 07:52 | <killsalad> hi
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| 07:53 | <LokR> hi killsalad
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| 07:53 | can you help me?
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| 07:53 | <killsalad> hm, let's see
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| 07:53 | <LokR> I use nasd with ltsp and I can't record using audacity
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| 07:53 | :( I'm very sad bouhhh (ltsp 4.1)
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| 07:54 | <killsalad> hm, try upgrade to LTSP-4.2
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| 07:54 | <LokR> I can't do that.. my boss doesn't want it :s
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| 07:55 | <killsalad> well i never used sound on terminals
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| 07:55 | so i can't help you
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| 07:55 | <LokR> ok, thank you for your answer :)
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| 07:56 | <killsalad> i've got big problem with my LTSP
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| 07:57 | <LokR> tell me maybe I could help you :p
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| 07:57 | <killsalad> ok ubuntu 6.10 + LTSP-4.2
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| 07:57 | and gdm do not accepts connections
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| 07:58 | i've instaled kdm - but when users logs out on terminal
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| 07:58 | <killsalad> on server X is messing
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| 08:01 | <killsalad> ok gotta go bye
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| 08:07 | <LokR> whoups didn't have time to answer
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| 08:08 | <cliebow_> LokR:put 4.2 in paralle to 4.1
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| 08:09 | <LokR> in paralle? sorry I didn't understand
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| 08:09 | to run the two at the same time?
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| 08:15 | <LokR> hmmmm² muh2000 ?
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| 08:45 | <muh2000> LokR XKB error i got here...
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| 08:45 | http://img392.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bildschirmfotope3.png
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| 08:55 | <muh2000> brb
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| 09:15 | <DivFMprepro> hello
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| 09:16 | did someone manage to have recording possible in audacity?
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| 09:28 | <sbalneav> Morning all
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| 09:29 | <cliebow__> Scottie!!!!!!!!!
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| 09:31 | <sbalneav> Morning cliebow
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| 09:31 | <cliebow__> 8~)
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| 09:43 | <moquist> hiya
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| 09:45 | <moquist> is there a recommended way to get flash working with sound in Edubuntu Edgy? I see ( https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/29760 ) that edsdsp is not the recommended hack any longer...so what's the new recommended hack, specifically for an Edubuntu environment?
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| 09:45 | <mrlinux> could not open location 'file:///media/thin1/cdrom'
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| 09:45 | unknown error code 2
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| 09:46 | moquist, what is your problem
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| 09:46 | <moquist> er, "esddsp", not what I said.
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| 09:46 | mrlinux: no sound with flash.
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| 09:46 | mrlinux: Oddly enough, changing FIREFOX_DSP=esd in /etc/firefox/firefoxrc causes firefox to fail to start, citing numerous ALSA-related errors.
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| 09:47 | <mrlinux> moquist, what sound card are you using
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| 09:48 | moquist, intergrated or pci
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| 09:49 | <moquist> integrated, I assume. I doubt there are PCI cards in these TCs.
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| 09:49 | for mplayer, -ao esd works fine.
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| 09:49 | I need to double-check, but I assume the K12LTSP servers *are* using esddsp for Firefox, and I believe they work.
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| 09:49 | * moquist goes to double-check | |
| 09:50 | <mrlinux> moquist, double check your driver. sometimes the wrong drivers load and can cause problems
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| 09:51 | moquist, flash does work right, or does flash just fail. so you are trying to fix by esd
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| 09:54 | <mrlinux> sbalneav, are you there
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| 09:56 | <sbalneav> Yep, I'm here
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| 09:58 | <mrlinux> sbalneav, i have an error that i confused on. could not open location 'file:///media/thin1/cdrom' unknown error code 2
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| 09:58 | <sbalneav> Where have you gotten this error?
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| 09:59 | <mrlinux> sbalneav, on my client machine trying to access their own cdrom
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| 09:59 | <sbalneav> Is there a cdrom in the drive?
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| 09:59 | <mrlinux> sbalneav, yes
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| 10:00 | <sbalneav> What happens if you take the cdrom out, and re-insert it?
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| 10:00 | <mrlinux> sbalneav, so how is it in Manitoba
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| 10:00 | sbalneav, i'll check
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| 10:02 | sbalneav, no such luck let me try a different cd
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| 10:03 | <sbalneav> Yeah, could be a duffy cdrom
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| 10:03 | <mrlinux> sbalneav, the other cd works though
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| 10:04 | sbalneav, i goning to try the other cd
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| 10:07 | <mrlinux> sbalneav, it's just the cd thats messed
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| 10:08 | <sbalneav> Problem solved
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| 10:09 | <mrlinux> sbalneav, thx i g2g neighbour i'll see you hear agian
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| 10:09 | sbalneav, right now i am right beneth alberta's Legal Aid office
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| 10:11 | <efra> Morning everybody
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| 10:13 | <DivFMprepro> bouhou I'm sad.. I still can't record with audacity :(
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| 10:14 | <vykarian> morning
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| 10:14 | <DivFMprepro> hi back
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| 10:20 | <vykarian> hey sbalneav
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| 10:20 | fyi, the problem i was having yesterday
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| 10:21 | the rtl8139 series B and C don't accept 256 ROMs
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| 10:21 | <sbalneav> Get that from the mailing list?
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| 10:25 | <vykarian> no, I subscribed right now.. it was due testing and found some minutes ago at the realtek proper website
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| 10:27 | <DivFMprepro> Does anyone know why I've got "PortAudio: read interrupted!" when I try to record usinf nasd in ltsp 4.1?
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| 10:54 | <jammcq> hey kids
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| 10:54 | <sbalneav> Hey jammcq
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| 10:55 | <jammcq> how's it goin, eh?
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| 10:55 | <sbalneav> goin :)
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| 13:31 | <cliebow_> vykarian:i ve used 256 proms i think on b and c
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| 13:52 | <vykarian> cliebow_ I just couldn't :(
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| 13:52 | caught 3 different brands of EPROM
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| 13:52 | just caught a 27c512 and worked at first
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| 13:52 | my NIC babylon will drive me crazy yet
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| 13:53 | but no problem =]
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| 13:53 | mates, does someone know how I can map a LTS terminal printer to a windows box?
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| 13:53 | to map a windows - windows use net use \\ip.from.term\printer_share LTP1: (i.e.)
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| 14:44 | <mrlinux> i have a conflict when i try to boot
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| 14:45 | any help
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| 14:46 | <sbalneav> Ummm, could you be more specific?
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| 14:46 | You fight with someone when you try to boot?
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| 14:47 | When you boot, it starts a war?
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| 14:47 | help us out here :)
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| 14:48 | mrlinux: Hello! Could you be more specific?
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| 14:48 | <mrlinux> ok i was using a dlink hub. i was forced to swich to a dlink switch
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| 14:49 | <mrlinux> now it wont work
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| 14:50 | <sbalneav> define "won't work", won't boot? boots, but won't log in?
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| 14:50 | <mrlinux> with the switch it try's to use TFPT
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| 14:50 | <sbalneav> Do you have link lights for the server and workstation?
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| 14:50 | <mrlinux> yes the connection is there
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| 14:51 | <sbalneav> Are you sure?
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| 14:51 | What's the ethernet port on the server? Eth0?
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| 14:51 | <mrlinux> i get PXE-E35 TFTP Timeout and a PXE-E39 TFTP cannot read from connection
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| 14:52 | no eth1
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| 14:52 | <sbalneav> What happens when you do a "mii-tool eth1" on the server?
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| 14:52 | <mrlinux> SIOCGMIIPHY on 'eth1' failed: Operation not permitted
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| 14:53 | <sbalneav> Did you do that as root?
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| 14:53 | <mrlinux> no
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| 14:53 | <sbalneav> CAN you do it as root?
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| 14:53 | <mrlinux> ya
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| 14:54 | eth1: negotiated 100baseTx-FD, link ok
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| 14:54 | wait one sec
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| 14:55 | ok back
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| 14:56 | i did a packet capture
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| 14:56 | using wireshark
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| 14:59 | so whats up
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| 15:00 | <sbalneav> Is this a smart switch?
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| 15:00 | <mrlinux> i dont know
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| 15:01 | it's a Dlink DSS-5+
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| 15:01 | <mrlinux> Unmanaged Layer 2 Switch with (5) 10/100BASE-TX Ports Desktop Switch
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| 15:01 | <sbalneav> ok
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| 15:02 | <mrlinux> so how do i fix my problem
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| 15:02 | <sbalneav> I have no idea, I'm still trying to debug it.
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| 15:02 | OK, so you're getting an IP address, right? It's the TFTP that's failing?
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| 15:03 | What does "ifconfig eth1" say?
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| 15:03 | <mrlinux> yes i am getting an ip i get TFTP Timeout and TFTP cannot read from connection
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| 15:04 | <sbalneav> As well, what do you get for "netstat -an | grep :69"?
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| 15:04 | <mrlinux> do you mind if i paste it in
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| 15:06 | eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:50:04:D9:59:4B
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| 15:06 | inet addr:192.168.0.200 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
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| 15:06 | inet6 addr: fe80::250:4ff:fed9:594b/64 Scope:Link
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| 15:06 | UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
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| 15:06 | RX packets:27568 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
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| 15:06 | TX packets:64063 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
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| 15:06 | <sbalneav> No, it should only be a few lines,
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| 15:06 | <mrlinux> collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
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| 15:06 | RX bytes:3622232 (3.4 MiB) TX bytes:67520004 (64.3 MiB)
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| 15:06 | Interrupt:11 Base address:0xe000
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| 15:07 | <sbalneav> k, that looks ok
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| 15:07 | <mrlinux> udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:69 0.0.0.0:*
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| 15:07 | <vykarian> use tcpdump at servers interface to see if u have traffic through this ports
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| 15:07 | <sbalneav> Try downing the interface, and re-upping it, just in case it's confused.
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| 15:07 | ifdown eth1 && ifup eth1
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| 15:08 | <mrlinux> mrlinux@ThinSever:~$ ifdown eth1 && ifup eth1
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| 15:08 | ifdown: failed to open statefile /var/run/network/ifstate: Permission denied
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| 15:08 | mrlinux@ThinSever:~$ sudo ifdown eth1 && ifup eth1
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| 15:08 | ifup: failed to open statefile /var/run/network/ifstate: Permission denied
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| 15:08 | mrlinux@ThinSever:~$ su
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| 15:08 | Password:
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| 15:08 | root@ThinSever:/home/mrlinux# ifdown eth1 && ifup eth1
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| 15:09 | ifdown: interface eth1 not configured
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| 15:09 | but i know eth1 is configured
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| 15:10 | <sbalneav> So, lets get this straight.
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| 15:10 | eth0 is connected to the internet, or backbone, or whatever, and eth1 is connected to the switch, which the terminals are connected to?
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| 15:10 | <mrlinux> yes
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| 15:11 | <sbalneav> Is eth1 assigned a static address?
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| 15:11 | <mrlinux> yes
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| 15:11 | 192.168.0.200
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| 15:11 | <sbalneav> What's the address of eth0?
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| 15:11 | <mrlinux> 172.x.x.x
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| 15:12 | <yanu> sbalneav: i see a list of wm's to choose from in ldm-screen, how and where do i add one, ea. firefox
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| 15:13 | <sbalneav> mrlinux: You should change that to .254 for the address. You've set your static address in the middle of the dynamic pool range.
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| 15:13 | <mrlinux> ok
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| 15:13 | <sbalneav> yanu: you wouldn't do that.
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| 15:13 | You'd create a custom .xsession for the user that just launches firefox
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| 15:13 | and nothing else.
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| 15:14 | <mrlinux> sbalneav, ok
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| 15:14 | <yanu> sbalneav: ach, i made a .xinitrc that launches firefox, ok i'll try that
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| 15:15 | <sbalneav> mrlinux: reboot your client, should work.
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| 15:15 | <mrlinux> sbalneav, i have arp timeouts
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| 15:15 | sbalneav, now
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| 15:16 | sbalneav, and TFTP cant open connection
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| 15:16 | <sbalneav> So, how many wires are plugged into this switch?
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| 15:17 | <mrlinux> sbalneav, 4 2 are active
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| 15:17 | <sbalneav> Why 4?
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| 15:17 | Should only be 2
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| 15:17 | the server's eth1, and your terminal.
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| 15:17 | <mrlinux> 3 clients 1 server but only 1 client is active
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| 15:18 | <sbalneav> Have you rebooted the switch?
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| 15:18 | i.e. unplugged and plugged it in?
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| 15:18 | <mrlinux> in 2 seconds
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| 15:19 | ok its rebooted
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| 15:20 | <sbalneav> Does the tftp work now?
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| 15:20 | <mrlinux> nope it cannot open connection
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| 15:20 | the switch has a built in dhcp server am i right
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| 15:21 | <sbalneav> if it's a SWITCH, no it shouldn't
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| 15:21 | if it's an INTERNET GATEWAY thing, then yes it will.
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| 15:21 | <mrlinux> thats what i thought but my teacher told me it did
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| 15:21 | <sbalneav> I can only go by what you tell me.
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| 15:21 | <mrlinux> i know
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| 15:22 | <sbalneav> if you tell me it's a switch, then I have to beleive that.
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| 15:22 | <mrlinux> i gave you the model name
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| 15:22 | <sbalneav> So, the network's supposedly there, based on ifconfig, and mii-tool
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| 15:23 | <mrlinux> it is there
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| 15:23 | <sbalneav> and according to netstat, tftp is listening becayse :69 shows up.
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| 15:23 | <mrlinux> it works when using a hub it works when using a crossover cable but it fails when using a switch
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| 15:23 | <sbalneav> So, all I can suggest is, try rebooting the server, just in case something's REALLY screwy in the server's network card. And if that doesn't work, you've got a physical wiring problem of some kind.
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| 15:23 | <mrlinux> http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=0&pid=69
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| 15:24 | <mrlinux> i think that the switch might be off
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| 15:24 | not off but faluty
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| 15:25 | <yanu> hmm, damned, x is starting, i see firefox with top, but then a crash
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| 15:25 | <mrlinux> because this is the first time using a switch all other times i have never even seen tftp before
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| 15:26 | ok thanks for your help
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| 15:29 | <sbalneav> yanu:
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| 15:29 | I just tested:
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| 15:29 | #!/bin/bash
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| 15:29 | firefox
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| 15:29 | put that in a .xsession file
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| 15:30 | chmod 755 .xsession in the users home dir
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| 15:30 | <yanu> permissions 755 ?
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| 15:30 | <sbalneav> and select "Default system session"
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| 15:30 | when logging in
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| 15:30 | <yanu> ach, ok, i used /usr/bin/firefox &
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| 15:30 | <sbalneav> All you get is firefox then, no window manager.
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| 15:30 | no, can't put it in the background.
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| 15:30 | <yanu> moment, phone
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| 15:30 | <sbalneav> When .xsession ends, then the session's over/
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| 15:44 | <yanu> ok, ach that is the reason! bingo, it works, thx alot
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| 15:45 | <sbalneav> No problem.
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| 15:45 | <yanu> is there a place to put this documentation somewhere?
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| 15:45 | <sbalneav> You could put it on the wiki, but really, if you'd have searched the LTSP mail archives, you would have found this has been done a hundred times already :)
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| 15:46 | There's nothing new under the sun :D
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| 15:46 | <yanu> ohh, where can i find that, letme look
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| 15:47 | http://ltsp.org/mailinglists.php
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| 15:48 | <mrlinux> sbalneav, ok
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| 15:48 | sbalneav, hi
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| 15:48 | <sbalneav> hello
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| 15:49 | <mrlinux> sbalneav, now it says that there is no dhcp or bootp offers recived
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| 15:49 | sbalneav, but my dhcp service is running
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| 15:49 | <yanu> sbalneav: ok , fount the archives, thx for showing me that, never looked that before, i only knew the wiki ;)
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| 15:50 | <sbalneav> If you put the hub back in, does it work?
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| 15:50 | <mrlinux> yes
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| 15:50 | <sbalneav> Then it's the switch.
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| 15:50 | <mrlinux> i switched out the switch to a different switch
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| 15:51 | what is the command to stop and restart the service
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| 15:52 | <sbalneav> Which, dhcpd?
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| 15:52 | <mrlinux> yes
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| 15:52 | <sbalneav> invoke-rc.d dhcp3-server restart
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| 15:52 | <mrlinux> right
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| 15:52 | i forgot the invoke part
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| 15:53 | mrlinux@ThinSever:~$ invoke-rc.d dhcp3-server restart
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| 15:53 | dhcpd self-test failed. Please fix the config file.
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| 15:53 | The error was:
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| 15:53 | drop_privileges: could not set group id: Operation not permitted
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| 15:53 | invoke-rc.d: initscript dhcp3-server, action "restart" failed.
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| 15:54 | <sbalneav> You're not doing this as root, are you?
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| 15:55 | Any system type thing you usually need to do as root.
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| 15:58 | <mrlinux> sorry i'm really new to linux
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| 15:59 | i am used to being an admin
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| 15:59 | i just have to get used to it
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| 17:06 | <killsalad> hi
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| 17:50 | <bdole42> Hi
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| 18:05 | <Snerf> anyone can provide any help/assistance to using rdesktop with ltsp.. trying to get a local floppy to work, but there is no /mnt/floppy or even /dev/fd0 .. is that disabled by default in ltsp ?
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| 18:09 | <vagrantc> Snerf: have you tried the mailing list?
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| 18:09 | <Snerf> no
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| 18:10 | <vagrantc> i would try there, rather than keep repeating the same question over and over again :P
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| 18:10 | <bushboy> Whats the issue?
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| 18:10 | Sorry just got here
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| 18:10 | <Snerf> well, hey, i dont mind keeping asking here
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| 18:10 | <vagrantc> floppy + rdesktop
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| 18:10 | <bushboy> what?
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| 18:11 | good freaking luck
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| 18:11 | <Snerf> thats what it seems, yes ;)
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| 18:11 | <vagrantc> Snerf: well, if you actually want to get your problem solved, i would recommend asking more places...
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| 18:11 | <bushboy> I'm not even sure that rdp supports local devices and I HIGHLY doubt any LTSP contributors have commited any time to it
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| 18:12 | besides thats not an LTSP issue
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| 18:12 | <bushboy> its an rdesktop issue
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| 18:17 | <bushboy> Snerf: seems you can do disk redirection according to the rdesktop man page
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| 18:18 | <Snerf> bushboy.. yes.. but I have no /dev/fdo
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| 18:18 | <vagrantc> Snerf: can you boot some sort of livecd, such as knoppix, and access the floppy drive from it?
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| 18:19 | <Snerf> yup
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| 18:19 | <bushboy> modprobe floppy
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| 18:19 | on the client
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| 18:19 | <Snerf> floppy works fine, if i go to ltsp and run shell as screen_01.. i can not access it
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| 18:20 | <vagrantc> Snerf: works fine in what?
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| 18:20 | <Snerf> in knoppix, booting on its own, bartpe.. etc
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| 18:20 | <bushboy> snerf? you able to modprobe or insmod floppy
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| 18:21 | firing up a client now
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| 18:21 | brb
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| 18:21 | <Snerf> no i am not
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| 18:21 | <bushboy> any error?
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| 18:21 | custom or stock ltsp kernel?
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| 18:22 | <Snerf> stock 4.2
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| 18:22 | <bushboy> 2.6?
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| 18:22 | <Snerf> yes
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| 18:22 | Fedora
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| 18:22 | <bushboy> no no
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| 18:22 | on the client side
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| 18:22 | <Snerf> oh.. yes :)
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| 18:23 | no changed made from the default ltsp install at all
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| 18:23 | <bushboy> whats the error on modprobe floppy?
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| 18:23 | <Snerf> gah.. i gotta run.. i'll send a message in the mailing list.. thanks tho.
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| 18:24 | <bushboy> poor little snerf
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| 19:24 | <cliebow> REGGAE NIGHT!!!
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| 19:39 | <rjune> cliebow: LOL
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| 20:29 | <cliebow> wednesdaya nights are not to be missed!
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| 20:30 | streamin on line at http://listen.weru.org/listen.pls
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| 21:28 | <jammcq> howdie
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| 21:31 | <bushboy> howdy jammcq
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| 21:35 | <sbalneav> Evening all
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| 21:41 | <vagrantc> heya sbalneav !
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| 21:42 | <sbalneav> Evening vagrantc!!!
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| 21:43 | <sbalneav> :)
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| 21:44 | Fixed printers today, trying to update in my bzr branch
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| 21:44 | <sbalneav> Now we're back to supporting 3 printers, instead of just one :)
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| 21:44 | <PMantis> Hey guys
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| 21:50 | <vagrantc> sbalneav: with lp_server ?
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| 21:50 | sbalneav: i think ogra has some new print server re-write in python...
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| 21:50 | <sbalneav> lp_server's fine, it's in ltsp-client-setup
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| 21:51 | Oh, really?
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| 21:51 | <vagrantc> lp_server was removed from debian due to unclear licensing.
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| 21:51 | <sbalneav> Wait, this is the internet
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| 21:51 | O RLY?
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| 21:51 | <vagrantc> and i've been too lazy to contact the author for clarification. especially if ogra's rewrite works goo.
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| 21:51 | good.
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| 21:52 | he said he tested it with a usb printer ...
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| 21:52 | * jammcq hopes it also supports serial printers | |
| 21:52 | <jammcq> which are much more complex
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| 21:53 | * vagrantc is clueless | |
| 22:07 | <dberkholz> people still care about non-usb printers?
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| 22:07 | <jammcq> people reclaiming old hardware, and people doing point-of-sale certainly do
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| 22:07 | <vagrantc> i think reciept printers often fall into that category
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| 22:08 | <dberkholz> hadn't thought of that
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