IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 21 February 2007 (all times are UTC)
| 00:00 | <mathesis> la gente no usa los usb o floppy o cdrom?
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| 00:00 | <knight> no
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| 00:00 | <mathesis> knight, tienes algun como para hacerlo con ubuntu
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| 00:00 | <knight> el caso es que cualquier cosa ellos se mandan un email con los archivos
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| 00:01 | <mathesis> que version de ubuntu tienes?
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| 00:01 | <knight> dapper
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| 00:01 | no uso el edgy eft
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| 00:01 | <mathesis> tienes edgy eft con ltsp?
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| 00:02 | <knight> nope
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| 00:02 | no lo tengo
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| 00:02 | pero si quiero hacerlo
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| 00:02 | <mathesis> tienes el howto
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| 00:02 | <knight> me supongo que solo vas al website de ubuntu
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| 00:03 | <knight> y haz una busqueda de ltsp
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| 00:03 | pero mis instalaciones siempre han sido de abajo para arribas
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| 00:04 | <mathesis> como de abajo para arriba
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| 00:06 | <knight> osea
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| 00:06 | lo he bajado por interner
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| 00:07 | y he tomado hasta los recursos en cuenta
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| 00:07 | planificado
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| 00:09 | <mathesis> Download Kubuntu 6.06.1 LTS
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| 00:10 | que es LTS?
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| 00:10 | <knight> Long Term
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| 00:10 | Osea soporte a largo plazo
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| 00:11 | <vagrantc> pero, LTSP en 6.06 es malo
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| 00:11 | <mathesis> que me recomiendas edgy o dapper para el server?
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| 00:11 | <knight> Mathesis cuanto anos tienes trabajan en linux
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| 00:11 | <mathesis> meses
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| 00:11 | <knight> oh ok
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| 00:11 | <mathesis> en linux
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| 00:11 | bueno en debian 2 años
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| 00:11 | en ubuntu 1 mes
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| 00:12 | aunque digan que son iguales debian e ubuntu no es cierto
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| 00:12 | <knight> vagrantc por que dices que ltsp en 6.06 es malo
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| 00:12 | ubuntu es basado en debian pero no es lo mismo
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| 00:12 | <mathesis> vagrantc, es mejor edgy con ltsp4.2?
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| 00:14 | <vagrantc> knight: no tiene LTSPFS para discos de USB y otra cosas
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| 00:15 | <mathesis> vagrantc, buntu edgy tiene LTSPFS?
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| 00:15 | <vagrantc> mathesis: no conozco ltsp4.2, pero creo que ltsp5 esta bien :)
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| 00:15 | mathesis: si
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| 00:16 | <knight> oh ok
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| 00:17 | <vagrantc> y pienso ltsp5 en ubuntu edgy es mas rapido de ubuntu dapepr
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| 00:18 | <mathesis> vagrantc, yo quiero la rapidez de ltsp4.2
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| 00:18 | <knight> lo haz probado
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| 00:19 | <vagrantc> "rapidez" ?
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| 00:19 | <knight> osea haz tomado en consideracion la memoria y todo
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| 00:19 | con los thin clients
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| 00:19 | <mathesis> speed ltsp4.2
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| 00:20 | knight, tengo los clientes con 128 en ram
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| 00:20 | 400 mhz con 128 en ram los terminales
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| 00:20 | <vagrantc> ahora, ltsp4.2 es mas rapido de ltsp5 ... pero ltsp5 tiene mas possibilidades.
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| 00:20 | <knight> ok
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| 00:20 | <mathesis> por que mas posibilidades vagrantc ?
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| 00:20 | "posibilidades"?
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| 00:20 | <knight> yo tengo thinclients con pentuin 2 333mhz
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| 00:21 | y 64 memoria
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| 00:21 | <mathesis> knight, con gnome
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| 00:21 | <knight> sip
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| 00:21 | jejejej
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| 00:21 | <vagrantc> mathesis: ltsp5 usa paquettes de debian o ubuntu o gentoo ...
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| 00:21 | <mathesis> pues ami me van lento edubuntu
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| 00:21 | <knight> trabajan bien
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| 00:21 | <vagrantc> o otra linux ...
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| 00:22 | cuando usa paquettes de un distro de linux, cuando el distro tiene paquettes por seguridad, o otra programmas, tiene en ltsp5 tambien...
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| 00:23 | <vagrantc> mathesis: entiende, mas o menos?
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| 00:23 | <mathesis> no
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| 00:24 | you write english
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| 00:24 | <vagrantc> ltsp5 uses the packages of whatever linux distro you are running... debian, ubuntu or gentoo, or something else ...
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| 00:25 | <mathesis> if i am install a package in debian ltsp5 use package
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| 00:25 | <vagrantc> when you are using the packages of the linux distro, when there are security updates, or other programs, you can get those for ltsp too ...
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| 00:25 | it can ...
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| 00:26 | so, any of those 15,000 packages available in debian, are also available to your ltsp clients
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| 00:26 | <mathesis> ok
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| 00:26 | <knight> ok
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| 00:26 | <mathesis> entendi
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| 00:26 | <vagrantc> with ltsp4.2, you would have to compile most of those in the LBE ...
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| 00:26 | which is difficult :)
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| 00:27 | <mathesis> knight, como agregas un nuevo paquete a ltsp4.2?
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| 00:27 | <vagrantc> if you are just running all your applications on the server, it probably isn't so important.
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| 00:27 | <knight> ok
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| 00:28 | solamente lo agrego en el servidoe
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| 00:28 | <vagrantc> but, because ltsp5 uses more packages from the linux distros, it means that LTSP developers have to spend less time re-implementing things like the linux kernel and libc and such, and can spend more time just working on things specific to LTSP... which is why LTSP is moving in that direction :)
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| 00:29 | <mathesis> ok
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| 00:29 | its the future ltsp5
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| 00:29 | <vagrantc> yes ...
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| 00:30 | <mathesis> vagrantc, its need more speed
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| 00:30 | <vagrantc> mathesis: yes, yes, we know :)
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| 00:30 | <knight> lol
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| 00:30 | now they can at least focus on the important things
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| 00:30 | <vagrantc> LTSP 4.2 and earlier versions set the speed bar very high.
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| 00:31 | <knight> but things will get better
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| 00:31 | <vagrantc> or, the expectations are very high for a fast booting thin client
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| 00:31 | knight: that's the hope :)
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| 00:31 | <knight> lol
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| 00:31 | there is no hope
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| 00:31 | there is a goal
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| 00:31 | <mathesis> vagrantc, freegeek sale thin-clients}'
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| 00:32 | <vagrantc> and there is the constant procrastinating away from that goal :)
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| 00:32 | mathesis: not much, really. but they give away thin-clients sometimes.
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| 00:32 | <knight> is there any way i can help
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| 00:32 | <mathesis> how many?
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| 00:32 | <knight> with that procrastination
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| 00:32 | <vagrantc> heh.
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| 00:33 | mathesis: it depends ...
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| 00:33 | mathesis: they mostly do local grants. most of the grants to far away places have gone badly.
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| 00:34 | <knight> poor management
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| 00:35 | ????
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| 00:35 | <vagrantc> yes.
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| 00:35 | <mathesis> vagrantc, you work in freegeek
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| 00:36 | <knight> not everbody can do what they say can do
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| 00:36 | its easy to say that you can
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| 00:37 | <vagrantc> mathesis: more from a distance these days, but i was staff and have volunteered there for years.
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| 00:37 | knight: you speaking about freegeek?
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| 00:37 | <knight> yeah
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| 00:38 | not only freegeek
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| 00:38 | but there has been alot of places
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| 00:38 | where it happens like that
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| 00:38 | <vagrantc> ah, yes.
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| 00:38 | <knight> due to poor management
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| 00:38 | <vagrantc> the ideas are simple, the action is difficult.
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| 00:39 | and keeping it going is hardest
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| 00:39 | <knight> it takes corouge and passion for that kind of stuff
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| 00:39 | oh believe me I knoe
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| 00:39 | know
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| 00:39 | <vagrantc> i fortunately never really had to handle the management side... i just get to take action :)
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| 00:40 | <knight> lol
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| 00:40 | thats the good part
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| 00:40 | <vagrantc> knight: there is also a freegeek channel here on freenode, if you're interested in this sort of thing :)
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| 00:41 | <knight> ok
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| 00:41 | let me see whats going on there
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| 00:57 | * vagrantc still fails to run xen on an ltsp client | |
| 00:57 | <vagrantc> must be some writeable directories i'm missing
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| 01:00 | yo voy a dormir ahora
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| 01:00 | <knight> vagrantc que duermas bien
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| 02:12 | <illinux> ask ltspbot
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| 02:13 | !ltsp
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| 02:13 | <ltspbot> illinux: "ltsp" is LTSP is the Linux Terminal Server Project, the open source thin client solution. You can find it at http://www.ltsp.org
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| 02:13 | <illinux> !pxe
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| 02:13 | <ltspbot> illinux: Error: "pxe" is not a valid command.
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| 02:13 | <illinux> !etherboot
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| 02:13 | <ltspbot> illinux: Error: "etherboot" is not a valid command.
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| 02:14 | <illinux> !ltspbot
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| 02:14 | <ltspbot> illinux: Error: "ltspbot" is not a valid command.
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| 02:19 | <mathesis> illinux, you uses ltsp5 or ltsp4.2?
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| 02:30 | <MrDarkUser> !x.org
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| 02:30 | <ltspbot> MrDarkUser: Error: "x.org" is not a valid command.
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| 02:31 | <MrDarkUser> ltspbot: x.org is sometimes a challenge to configure for LTSP environments.
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| 02:31 | <ltspbot> MrDarkUser: Error: "x.org" is not a valid command.
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| 03:23 | <kaos01> anyone any idea as to why /boot/grub/menu.lst gets picked up secessfully only sometimes ?
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| 04:28 | <erdinc> hi everyone
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| 05:02 | <Jenna> hi guys, Is it necessary to have a sound card on the ltsp server to get sound going on the clients ? (have cs43..., something crystal on the clients)
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| 05:06 | <erdinc> no
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| 05:06 | you'll use esd for this
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| 05:08 | <Jenna> what do u mean ?
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| 05:08 | I mean since I dont have sound card on the server. I havent enable SOUND to yes in lts.conf ?
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| 05:09 | since my clients all have sound cards, Im hoping to utilize them.
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| 05:10 | <erdinc> esd = esound
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| 05:11 | for example xmms
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| 05:11 | you should set output esound for xmms to listen sound from a certain tcp port
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| 05:12 | 16001 as I remember
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| 05:13 | <Jenna> yeah and nasd is for 64 proc servers. right. I get that.
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| 05:14 | <erdinc> http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Sound
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| 05:14 | take a look at it..
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| 05:14 | <Jenna> but my question is do I need to set SOUND=Y in my lts.conf even if I dont have sound card on the server ?
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| 05:14 | <erdinc> yes you should set Y
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| 05:15 | <Jenna> okay. already looking at that. but just wanted to clear out design/arch stuff
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| 05:15 | thanx any though
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| 05:15 | tesekurler
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| 05:15 | <erdinc> you're welcome :)
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| 05:19 | <Jenna> btw is ltsp5 production ready ?
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| 05:22 | <sep> Jenna, on debian and ubuntu yes
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| 05:23 | <erdinc> it'll be ready on pardus soon :)
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| 05:23 | <sep> what's pardus ? :)
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| 05:23 | <erdinc> www.pardus.org.tr/eng
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| 05:24 | some comments: http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=07/01/19/1449245
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| 05:28 | <Jenna> Im k12ltsp buff. any news about that ?
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| 05:29 | <Jenna> sep: I thought skolelinux was dead ?
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| 05:29 | <Jenna> btw what about edubuntu ? I need an out of the box solution /
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| 05:31 | <cliebow_> edu rocks
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| 05:33 | <Jenna> hey cliebowvy
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| 05:34 | <sep> Jenna, skolelinux will release new versio asap after etch releases
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| 05:34 | <Jenna> yeah. tried that on a old Quad 500Mhz, 2Gb server. it seemed to work okay but was a bit sluggish
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| 05:35 | <sep> skolelinux is a network system, you can't realy test that unless you have 3 machines
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| 05:39 | <Jenna> sep: yeah I got that much. couple of weeks back I was googling for some production-ready ltsp solution. Ran into a lot of bad press for skolelinux. u guys need to address taht
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| 05:39 | that*
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| 05:43 | <sep> Jenna, what kind of bad press ?
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| 05:43 | i guess PR is the most lacking part of most FOSS projects :)
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| 05:47 | <cliebow_> skole required 2 nic system..i like single nic..but i tried it aa long time ago
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| 05:47 | and 4.2 booted sO fast
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| 06:01 | <Jenna> cliebow_, : what about edubuntu ? I've found it to be slower than k12ltsp.
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| 06:04 | <cliebow_> oh it is a little slower..bnut makes up for it in
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| 06:04 | deviuice detection
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| 06:23 | <sep> Jenna, all ltsp5 will boot slower then ltsp4.2,
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| 06:23 | as cliebow_ saies, the advantaqes more then makes up for it
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| 06:26 | <cliebow_> i may be talking thru my hat cuase ive only had it rocking on a crossover from my laptop..and newest schol isnt up to speed
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| 06:26 | in pc
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| 06:26 | in ppc
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| 06:27 | <Jenna> hmm.
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| 06:27 | gonna give edubuntu a try on stronger server
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| 06:29 | <Jenna> gtg need caffeine
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| 06:29 | thanx guys gona catch u tonite
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| 07:33 | <jammcq> g'morning
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| 08:03 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> morning!
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| 08:13 | <poro> any tips for enabling usb sticks. I tried to make them work with this howto https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EnableLTSP5LocalDevices
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| 08:14 | <pscheie> g'morning all
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| 08:14 | <poro> thin clients dmesg shows that there is life but I see no action on server side
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| 09:07 | <blinky_ghost> hi where can i find documentation for ltsp-5?
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| 09:09 | <freemind> http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Documentation
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| 09:13 | <blinky_ghost> thanks
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| 09:15 | <freemind> ok :-D
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| 09:17 | <blinky_ghost> just another question :)
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| 09:17 | can you tell me how do i get usplash working on ltsp clients? :)
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| 09:30 | <freemind> i don't know
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| 09:31 | a new image of kernel
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| 09:31 | something like that
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| 09:42 | <jammcq> SCOTTY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 09:42 | <sbalneav> Jammcq!!!
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| 09:45 | <pscheie> sbalneav: question about LDA and how it automatically closes files after 2 seconds of inactivity
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| 09:46 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> hi all
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| 09:46 | ;)
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| 09:47 | <sbalneav> pscheie: Yep?
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| 09:48 | <pscheie> is that at the file level or is the whole device unmounted after 2 sec?
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| 09:48 | <sbalneav> Whole device is unmounted
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| 09:49 | <pscheie> so, if I plug in my usb key, the icon appears on the desktop, I open it via nautilus
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| 09:49 | after 2 sec, I can just pull the key out, or is nautilus keeping it 'alive'?
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| 09:52 | <sbalneav> After 2 seconds you can just yank it.
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| 09:53 | <joebaker> LTSP 5 PowerSaver - How do I adjust the timeout for the screen?
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| 09:59 | <sbalneav> joebaker: are you talking in X?
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| 10:25 | <joebaker> sbalneav - Thanks... Sorry for the delay. The user is in X when it occurs. I have tried the screensaver properties from her Gnome Desktop settings. But it seems like some local thin client acpi setting.
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| 10:26 | sbalneav The power goes out on the monitor after some period of time. I'm not sure where to fix this.
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| 10:39 | <cryptom> Hi, what could be the reason that on one client PC (intel board with integrated video) I get a very high resolution, but on an other PC (also Intel but not the same model, also with integrated video) I get a very low resolution?
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| 10:39 | both exactly the same monitor!
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| 10:47 | <mathesis> hi
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| 10:58 | <Gadi> jammcq: ping
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| 10:58 | <jammcq> Gadi: pong
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| 10:59 | <Gadi> I need some Xorg expertise....
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| 10:59 | <jammcq> ppfffff
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| 10:59 | ok, no prob
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| 10:59 | <Gadi> If you had a monitor that had no display adjust controls....
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| 10:59 | <jammcq> yeah
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| 10:59 | <Gadi> and your display were horizontally shifted
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| 10:59 | what could you do?
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| 10:59 | <jammcq> crt or lcd ?
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| 10:59 | <Gadi> lcd
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| 11:00 | <jammcq> hmmmm, no controls ?
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| 11:00 | <Gadi> none
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| 11:00 | <jammcq> odd
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| 11:00 | <Gadi> its a touchscreen
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| 11:00 | only had an on switch
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| 11:00 | er has
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| 11:00 | and I want to be able to change resolutions without having to get grotty with modelines
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| 11:00 | <jammcq> umm, I know for crts you can play with modeline.
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| 11:00 | <Gadi> :)
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| 11:01 | <jammcq> do you have it plugged into a real linux box ?
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| 11:01 | <Gadi> as opposed to?
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| 11:01 | <jammcq> a thin client
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| 11:01 | <Gadi> ah, yes
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| 11:01 | Xorg 7.1
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| 11:01 | <jammcq> can you run xvidtune against it?
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| 11:01 | <Gadi> sure
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| 11:01 | lets try that
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| 11:01 | <jammcq> with xvidtune, you can play with the settings, to see how it looks
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| 11:02 | <Gadi> 'Video modes are not unable on this chip'
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| 11:02 | :(
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| 11:02 | <jammcq> hmm
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| 11:02 | <Gadi> er, tunable
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| 11:02 | not unable :)
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| 11:03 | its an i810 driver
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| 11:03 | <jammcq> even on my laptop, if I play with trying to shift it left or right, it has no effect
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| 11:03 | I think it's only for crts
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| 11:05 | <jammcq> I don't see any options for the i810 driver to allow you to shift the screen
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| 11:07 | <Gadi> yeah
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| 11:07 | weird
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| 11:07 | <jammcq> totally
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| 11:07 | <Gadi> I wish I could tell the monitor to autotune
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| 11:07 | <jammcq> did you try slapping the side of it?
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| 11:07 | <Gadi> several times
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| 11:16 | <One> Anybody here from Brazil???
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| 11:27 | <bricode> Gadi: I think you can play with the HorizSync in the Monitor Section.
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| 11:28 | <monteslu> wow, the fedora mailing list just exploded into a name calling soap opera. have a read if you guys are bored. Very entertaining
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| 11:29 | <bricode> monteslu: Over what?
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| 11:29 | <monteslu> ESR just left for ubuntu
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| 11:29 | <bricode> monteslu: E. Raymond?
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| 11:29 | <monteslu> he had a long winded exit message, and now its a firefight
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| 11:29 | yeah
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| 11:30 | <Gadi> bricode: yeah, ive tried. at first I thought it was on the driver side. Now I think its on the monitor side. Its weird - there are ddc-detected modes that I can't seem to get the drvier to go into (or even things like xrandr to see)
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| 11:30 | <bricode> wow
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| 11:30 | <sbalneav> link?
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| 11:30 | <monteslu> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2007-February/msg01006.html
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| 11:33 | <sbalneav> Everybody Loves Eric Raymond :)
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| 11:35 | <monteslu> heh
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| 11:36 | <bricode> Gadi: how horizontally shifted is your screen? 1/2?
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| 11:38 | <Gadi> no no
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| 11:38 | just slightly
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| 11:38 | 5%
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| 11:38 | maybe
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| 11:38 | enough to push things off the screen
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| 11:38 | and be annoying
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| 11:48 | <bricode_> Gadi: Did the screen come with any documentation about refresh rates?
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| 12:43 | <mathesis> Gadi, what is you distro?
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| 12:47 | <Gadi> mathesis: I am actually doing this from within Knoppix atm
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| 12:47 | so, debian
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| 12:47 | :)
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| 12:47 | I was thinking maybe I could shift the framebuffer with fbset - but, it doesnt respond to mydemands
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| 12:47 | :)
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| 12:48 | <mathesis> Gadi, you have run ltsp in knoppix
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| 12:49 | <Gadi> this is not ltsp that I am working on atm
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| 12:49 | just video stuff
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| 13:23 | <cliebow> Gadi:ping
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| 13:38 | <Gadi> cliebow: pong
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| 13:43 | bricode_: ping
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| 13:44 | <bricode_> Gadi: pong
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| 13:44 | <Gadi> u know that funny thing X sometimes does where the resolution is larger than the physical display, so the display moves when you put your cursor at the edge of the screen?
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| 13:45 | <bricode_> Gadi: Sorta. Why?
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| 13:45 | <Gadi> any idea how to tell it not to do that :)
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| 13:46 | <pscheie> Gadi: xrandr?
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| 13:47 | <bricode_> Gadi: Do you have a "Virtual" section in your Display subsection?
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| 13:47 | <Gadi> bricode_: I do not
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| 13:47 | perhaps I should....
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| 13:48 | <bricode_> Gadi: Well, you might want to have one that explicitly matches your desired resolution.
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| 13:48 | * Gadi thinks last time I tried that, the xserver borked | |
| 13:48 | <Gadi> but, will try again
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| 13:49 | <bricode_> Yeah, I've been playing a lot with X lately to get some dual head stuff to work.
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| 13:49 | Man it's a pain in the butt when you're not using standard hardware.
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| 13:50 | <cliebow> Gadi:just a stupid ? i cant put my finger on..to prematurely end a script as i work thru debugging..end exit..stop? quit..ewass?
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| 13:51 | <Gadi> cliebow: what language? perl?
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| 13:51 | <cliebow> yes sir
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| 13:51 | <Gadi> exit should do
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| 13:51 | <cliebow> hmm..guess i need to move it
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| 13:52 | or refresh browser
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| 13:54 | ok..i see..
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| 14:19 | <bricode_> Gadi: any luck?
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| 14:19 | <Gadi> not much - I found an upgrade to the BIOS for this box. I'
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| 14:19 | er, I'm hoping it'll upgrade the video bios
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| 14:20 | <bricode_> Gadi: Yeah, upgrading bioses is a beast.
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| 14:20 | Gadi: I had to roll my own boot CD so I could upgrade some thin client bioses.
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| 14:20 | <Gadi> but, from the docs on the touchscreen, it seems there is an external OSD remote that plugs into it to do display adjust
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| 14:21 | so now, I'm just trying to resolve why I cant get higher video modeas
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| 14:21 | er, modes
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| 14:23 | <bricode_> Gadi: Sounds handy. Why can't you just do it easily in software? :)
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| 14:24 | <Gadi> heh
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| 14:26 | <bricode> check your sync rate values. They are key.
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| 14:26 | Hateful little wireless router.
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| 15:43 | <Mighty-D> Hi, im having some problems with local devs ... i followed all the steps in the troubleshooting with success... the only step i missed was when i tried to mount /tmp using the shelll script, can anyone help me?, im running slackware
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| 15:45 | <jammcq> hey all
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| 15:47 | <Mighty-D> hey!
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| 15:48 | Hi, im having some problems with local devs ... i followed all the steps in the troubleshooting with success... the only step i missed was when i tried to mount /tmp using the shelll script, can anyone help me?, im running slackware
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| 16:05 | <Mighty-D> Hi, im having some problems with local devs ... i followed all the steps in the troubleshooting with success... the only step i missed was when i tried to mount /tmp using the shelll script, can anyone help me?, im running slackware
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| 16:10 | <a5benwillis> Hello LTSP!!
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| 16:11 | I hope this is a place for help with a thin client issue on LTSP.
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| 16:12 | I am trying to get my LTSP server (edubuntu) to authenticate to Netware.
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| 16:12 | .
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| 16:13 | <a5benwillis> I have the 'server' itself authenticating just fine and even automatically creating accounts on the server. But when I try to log in via the thin cleint the login fails back to the login screen.
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| 16:13 | .
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| 16:13 | Am I correct in assuming that I need for SSH to authenticate via pam_ncp_auth.so as well?
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| 16:13 | .
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| 16:14 | Or does the SSH session authenticate to the server in some different way in LTSP?
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| 16:31 | <erdinc> hi everyone
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| 16:45 | <a5benwillis> nobody?
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| 16:45 | 57 people, anyone here?
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| 16:55 | <cliebow_> heh
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| 16:56 | all authentication is at he server..you may be missing ssh keys
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| 16:58 | Lord Gadi has said that ldm login on cliient is a thin disguise for ssh auth
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| 17:01 | guess you're not here...
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| 17:11 | * Gadi tired.... | |
| 17:11 | <Gadi> bricode: still here?
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| 17:12 | <bricode> Gadi: oddly enough, I happen to be.
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| 17:12 | <mistik1> Gadi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 17:12 | <bricode> Gadi: What's the word? Also, have you been sent a link to our little video?
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| 17:12 | <mistik1> What's up my brother from another Mother
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| 17:13 | <Gadi> mistik1: hey!
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| 17:13 | bricode: I have found that if I use the fbdev driver and a 1280x1024 fb, I can get 1280x1024
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| 17:13 | but thats the only way
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| 17:13 | :P
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| 17:13 | <mistik1> Gadi: was it you that patched in support for xinerama in ltsp?
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| 17:13 | <bricode> Whacky. What vid card are you running?
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| 17:14 | <Gadi> I tried telling i810 to UseFBDev, but it doesnt seem to care to
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| 17:14 | its intel 945G
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| 17:14 | great card
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| 17:14 | awesome linux support
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| 17:14 | mistik1: indeed
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| 17:14 | once upon a time
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| 17:14 | :)
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| 17:15 | <bricode> wow. That sounds irritating that it won't actually work with the UseFBDev flag.
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| 17:15 | <Gadi> and it was more like support for putting lts.conf vars in to make it happen rather than a static config file
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| 17:15 | bricode: indeed
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| 17:15 | i dont think the i810 driver honors that flag
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| 17:16 | <bricode> Gadi: In case you haven't seen it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=876jZuLhsbU
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| 17:16 | <mistik1> Gadi: I was sitting there last night reading the code and I could picture you sitting there with a bunch of monitors shouting a Roger saying "It works!!"
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| 17:16 | I even heard your voice saying it
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| 17:18 | <Gadi> mistik1: lol
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| 17:18 | are you back in jersey?
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| 17:18 | <mistik1> :)
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| 17:18 | <mistik1> nope
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| 17:18 | I'm In GA right now
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| 17:18 | I'll be here a couple more weeks yet
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| 17:19 | <cliebow_> anyone used pandora.com::yeah a little commercial yes but..pretty cool
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| 17:19 | <Gadi> family?
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| 17:19 | * mistik1 must something exciting to do tomorrow | |
| 17:19 | <mistik1> Yea, my dad
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| 17:19 | * mistik1 's birthday tomorrow | |
| 17:19 | <Gadi> HAPPY BDAY!
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| 17:19 | <mistik1> :) thanks
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| 17:20 | <cliebow_> Happy Birthday!!!..my little brothers too
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| 17:20 | <mistik1> I'm just getting to be more of an old fart
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| 17:20 | <cliebow_> al 250 pounds of jim,
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| 17:20 | <mistik1> :)
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| 17:20 | <cliebow_> heh /jim/him
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| 17:21 | <mistik1> You little brother did you say?
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| 17:21 | I hope you dont try to pick on him
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| 17:21 | <Gadi> bricode: so, you've been playing with mythTv, i see...:)
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| 17:22 | <bricode> Gadi: Yeah, it's good to dabble in all areas.
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| 17:22 | Keep your random skills and knowledge sharp.
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| 17:22 | <Gadi> and by dabble you mean watch TV ? ;)
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| 17:22 | <bricode> Meh. I don't even have cable.
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| 17:22 | <cliebow_> not since he was 11
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| 17:22 | <bricode> And my internet pipe isn't even that big.
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| 17:23 | <Gadi> its not the size of your internet pipe that counts....
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| 17:23 | <cliebow_> Lloyd Parks...Screaming Target
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| 17:23 | how you use it i suppose
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| 17:24 | <a5benwillis> Im HERE
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| 17:24 | <cliebow_> Heh!Q
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| 17:24 | <a5benwillis> Can anyone tell me if the user loggin into the thin client needs to be able to authenticate on the server via SSH?
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| 17:25 | <Gadi> a5benwillis: if you are using ldm, then yes
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| 17:26 | <a5benwillis> Gadi: Would you mind if I shared my issue with you? Hopefully you'll know something about the subject.
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| 17:26 | <a5benwillis> I'm using Edubuntu specificaly.
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| 17:26 | <bricode> I had a girl tell me that once...
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| 17:26 | <Gadi> ok, but if you havent run: ltsp-update-ssh-keys (or some such), then you should start with that
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| 17:26 | * Gadi forgets the exact command | |
| 17:26 | <cliebow_> THAT was what iweas looking for
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| 17:26 | <Gadi> too many rusty coffee pots
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| 17:26 | <a5benwillis> What I'm trying to do is have my users authenticated against a Netware NDS server using the pam_ncp_auth.so module
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| 17:27 | <Gadi> sounds fun
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| 17:27 | <cliebow_> Gadi: if he can login at server he is golden of his keys are good?
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| 17:27 | right?
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| 17:27 | <Gadi> well, if he placed the changes in common-auth part of PAM, then prolly
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| 17:28 | <cliebow_> a5benwillis, remember that gdm is not your login manager on client..
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| 17:30 | <mistik1> lol
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| 17:30 | Question of the day "Do you know where /boot is located"
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| 17:31 | <cliebow_> hahh
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| 17:31 | i had the same sort the other day..where do i find /tmp
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| 17:31 | <mistik1> *sigh*
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| 17:31 | Some folks really dont think before they type
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| 17:34 | <cliebow_> i must admit ive otten a little flustered myself at times
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| 17:34 | <mistik1> I gave it 1.6Gb and wxGTK still ran out of space building itself
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| 17:35 | jeeze
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| 17:35 | <cliebow_> gentoo?
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| 17:35 | <mistik1> of course
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| 17:35 | This little laptop has been compiling for days
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| 17:36 | Hostname: firelinks - OS: Linux 2.6.18-dscape/x86_64 - CPU: 2 x AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-50 (1600.000 MHz) - Processes: 138 - Uptime: 5d 5h 14m - Load Average: 4.93 - Memory Usage: 287.18MB/873.80MB (32.87%) - Disk Usage: 37.47GB/53.78GB (69.68%)
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| 17:36 | 4.93 load avarage, ouch!
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| 17:36 | <cliebow_> what is the upgrade path like?.Ooooh Itals
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| 17:36 | <mistik1> upgrade path from what?
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| 17:36 | Its easy to move to gentoo from any distro
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| 17:36 | <cliebow_> well just keepimng up to date
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| 17:37 | <mistik1> oh
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| 17:37 | emerge -uD world
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| 17:37 | walk away
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| 17:37 | <cliebow_> that rocks
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| 17:37 | <mistik1> yes it does
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| 17:38 | or rather
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| 17:38 | emerge --sync && emerge -uD world
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| 17:40 | <cliebow_> not unlike apt-get update and apt-get -y dist-upgrade
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| 17:40 | <bricode> yeah, until you realize your computer is totally busted and you have borked video and raid drivers.
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| 17:40 | <mistik1> yea, cept your compiling
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| 17:40 | huh?
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| 17:41 | <cliebow_> i get you...been the borkee before
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| 17:41 | <bricode> And it's especially exciting if they've changed something like udev, and your computer won't boot properly.
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| 17:41 | <a5benwillis> Sorry abt that. I had a 17month old throw up right in front of me. We had to cleanup a bit :)
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| 17:41 | <mistik1> hehe
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| 17:41 | <cliebow_> 8~)
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| 17:41 | <a5benwillis> let me see what was said
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| 17:41 | <bricode> I enjoyed Gentoo, and learned a whole pile from it, but there were some scary foot shootings.
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| 17:41 | <mistik1> bricode: are you speaking of dist-upgrade?
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| 17:41 | <cliebow_> <Gadi> ok, but if you havent run: ltsp-update-ssh-keys (or some such), then you should start with that
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| 17:41 | * Gadi forgets the exact command
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| 17:42 | <bricode> mistik1: no, emerge -uD world
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| 17:42 | <mistik1> oh pfft
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| 17:42 | <a5benwillis> but, I can log into the thin client with an account that already exists on the server
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| 17:42 | just not accounts that I want to authenticate via NCP
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| 17:42 | <mistik1> bricode: before I started using Gentoo I was already good at tracking dependency issues, so it was not a big deal
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| 17:43 | <cliebow_> how is the loggong on ncp?
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| 17:43 | <Gadi> a5benwillis: take a look at how your ssh pam module is configured
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| 17:43 | <bricode> mistik1: I suppose I was a little careless about dependency issues. It just seemed that if I didn't upgrade for 3-4 months, when I did, it was a painful recovery process.
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| 17:44 | <mistik1> bricode: I tend to do a -p before a run the command and look at what will change, I also use -f to fetch all the packages so if something fails I have everything that needs downloading here
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| 17:44 | Other than that i'm golden
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| 17:45 | <bricode> mistik1: maybe it was my patience that killed me :) kernel upgrades and kde ones were grim times.
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| 17:46 | <mistik1> yea KDE was horrible, kernel is great but now that I use the modular KDE that is much better as you dont need compile the whole suite anymore just the individual packages that actually changes
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| 17:47 | Wed Jan 24 17:20:14 2007 >>> x11-base/xorg-server-1.1.1-r4 merge time: 14 minutes and 56 seconds.
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| 17:47 | That is not bad at all
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| 17:47 | <bricode> mistik1: Humm. Maybe I left gentoo too soon? I started using it in like 2002 or 2003.
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| 17:48 | mistik1: Moved to Ubuntu on account of LTSP actually, and business.
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| 17:48 | <mistik1> This is a HUGE package to compile
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| 17:48 | Wed Feb 21 17:55:59 2007 >>> x11-libs/wxGTK-2.6.3.3 merge time: 23 minutes and 38 seconds.
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| 17:48 | bricode: I dont think I'll bother to ever switch again
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| 17:49 | unless Gentoo stops updating which I dont see happening
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| 17:49 | <bricode> mistik1: from Gentoo? I did like their emerge package management. It was sweet.
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| 17:49 | <mistik1> yea from Gentoo
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| 17:50 | You see the reasons I went to gentoo in the first place was not because I like waiting for apps to compile but I found myself more and more having manually upgrade dated or missing packages from other distros...
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| 17:51 | So I figured if i'm going to be keeping GIGs of custom packages around I may as well just bloody well do it all myself and have what I want when I want
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| 17:51 | They way Ubuntu now stays on top of things If they had started a year earlier I may well be a ubuntu user today
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| 17:54 | <bricode> Ubuntu still has its holes, that's for sure.
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| 17:55 | But .deb packages seem to help fill the gap, and random repositories.
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| 17:55 | <mistik1> Well it certainly is better with updates and such
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| 17:56 | I used to hate telling clients, Oh yes we can do that only to install the damn distro and find a 5yo copy of the package that CANT do what the one from 2 years ago can
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| 17:56 | That used to burn me up
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| 17:57 | Stable means nothing if its useless
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| 17:57 | <a5benwillis> I better not get thrown up on again
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| 17:58 | Gadi: Does the /etc/pam.d/ssh file need to be configured for NCP auth as well? I've tried setting this up like my GDM file but I keep getting an error in /var/log/auth.log that the password is wrong (its the right PW of course)
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| 18:00 | <Gadi> a5benwillis: yes, it does
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| 18:00 | your sshd_config prolly tells ssh to UsePAM
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| 18:00 | which means it'll look to pam for auth
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| 18:00 | which means you need the ssh pam module to auth to ncp
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| 18:01 | bricode: I got i810 to honor the higher modes!
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| 18:01 | <bricode> Gadi: huzzah!
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| 18:01 | <Gadi> turns out 1280x1024 was achieved with a higher clock frequency than ddc could go
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| 18:01 | but xorg uses ddc by default as a module
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| 18:02 | so I pass the option for no ddc
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| 18:02 | and voila
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| 18:02 | <cliebow_> mistik1:for me ubuntu rocks cause the admins at little svhools can handle it..albeit with some handholding..i dont think gentoo would fly for this
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| 18:02 | <Gadi> otherwise xorg throws out the mode as unacceptable
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| 18:03 | <cliebow_> inspector:nice detective work..
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| 18:03 | <a5benwillis> Gadi: I've configured the pam ssh file all sorts of ways. All of the how-tos that I're read on this don't mention any modification to the ssh config.
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| 18:04 | <cliebow_> Watch your Back" syas SUgar Minott
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| 18:04 | <bricode> I swear, all xorg is black magic.
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| 18:04 | <a5benwillis> Gadi: Is this just for Edubuntu or all LTSP?
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| 18:04 | <mistik1> cliebow_: The only way I would unleash Gentoo on the unsuspecting is #1 if they ask for it specificly or I wrap it in a nice admin interface
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| 18:04 | maybe even something like webmin
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| 18:04 | <a5benwillis> Gadi: These are the first lines of my pam ssh file:
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| 18:04 | .
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| 18:04 | .
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| 18:04 | #
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| 18:04 | auth required pam_ncp_auth.so
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| 18:04 | #
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| 18:04 | auth sufficient pam_unix.so likeauth nullok
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| 18:04 | #
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| 18:04 | auth required pam_ncp_auth.so -d -a -u10000,50000,n,gcd ndsserver=10.10.50.1:a5do.adm.acsd5 -a -L -zAINTX
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| 18:04 | #
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| 18:05 | <Gadi> a5benwillis: sshd is configured by default on ubuntu to use PAM
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| 18:05 | <a5benwillis> password sufficient pam_unix.so
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| 18:05 | #
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| 18:05 | session sufficient pam_ncp_auth.so
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| 18:05 | pam_unis.so though which is local auth
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| 18:05 | <cliebow_> a5benwillis, earlier ltsp did not use ldm..but xdmcp/gdm from the server
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| 18:05 | <Gadi> why do you have 2 auth statements for NCP?
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| 18:05 | you should only have one
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| 18:05 | <cliebow_> a5benwillis, try to use a pastebin for long posts 8~)
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| 18:06 | <a5benwillis> again, I have tried lots of things. This is a file that another person on the edubuntu chan set up for me to try
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| 18:06 | <Gadi> and if its AFTER the pam_unix.so add a "use_first_pass" to the line
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| 18:06 | that'll usually get you the single password required
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| 18:06 | <a5benwillis> cliebow_: http://pastebin.com/886043
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| 18:07 | thats the whole file
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| 18:07 | <cliebow_> ahhhhhhhh
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| 18:09 | <Gadi> a5benwillis: did you get what I said?
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| 18:09 | <a5benwillis> i did, but have tried that
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| 18:10 | this module actually ignores "use_first_pass"
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| 18:10 | it uses pam_ncp for the auth but in my /var/log/auth.log file it tells me that the pass is wrong and does not authenticate.
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| 18:11 | want me to pastebin the auth.log file?
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| 18:11 | <cliebow_> I defer to gAdi
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| 18:11 | <a5benwillis> lol
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| 18:11 | <cliebow_> i only have exp authing to ldap
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| 18:11 | <a5benwillis> its a tiugh one, ive been working on this for two weeks'
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| 18:12 | http://prope.insa-lyon.fr/~ppollet/netware/ncpfs/pamncp/auth/
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| 18:12 | modules info'
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| 18:12 | <cliebow_> in ldap..i alter common-* and other files use @include common-*
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| 18:13 | <a5benwillis> ive tried addint the auth line to the common-auth file as well, same result
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| 18:13 | <cliebow_> but if the @include line is commented other pam.d/files wont reaf them
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| 18:14 | or am i full of dooper
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| 18:14 | <Gadi> a5benwillis: so, you cant auth to NCP even for gdm, right?
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| 18:14 | you cant auth to it yet at all
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| 18:14 | <a5benwillis> yes, I commented that in the ssh file to see if the common-auth was causing a problem. didnt help of course.
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| 18:15 | I CAN for gdm, it works perfectly using the same auth line
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| 18:16 | <Gadi> do you need to enter the password twice?
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| 18:16 | <a5benwillis> in gdm?
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| 18:16 | <Gadi> yes
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| 18:16 | <cliebow_> yes
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| 18:16 | <a5benwillis> no,
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| 18:16 | <Gadi> in gdm
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| 18:17 | <a5benwillis> single log in
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| 18:17 | <Gadi> for gdm, did you add to /etc/pam.d/gdm or common-*?
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| 18:17 | <a5benwillis> gdm
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| 18:17 | <Gadi> can you pastebin that file?
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| 18:17 | <a5benwillis> yes, will you be here for abt 20 mins?
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| 18:18 | gotta put a kid to bed... sry
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| 18:18 | <Gadi> *maybe*
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| 18:18 | heh, i know how it is
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| 18:18 | :)
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| 18:18 | <a5benwillis> tomorrow?
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| 18:18 | <Gadi> prolly.
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| 18:18 | can you pastebin first?
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| 18:18 | <a5benwillis> k, i'll brb as fast as i can
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| 18:18 | <Gadi> then if I leave, I'll just type ideas in chat
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| 18:18 | ok
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| 18:18 | <a5benwillis> gotta von to get it
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| 18:18 | vpn
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| 18:18 | brb
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| 18:21 | I got it for ya. pasting now
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| 18:21 | <Gadi> k
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| 18:22 | <a5benwillis> I really need some help with this. its been killing me and you guys seem to be the most knowledgable I've spoken to
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| 18:22 | <cliebow_> gadi is omniscient
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| 18:22 | <Gadi> we're a bunch of war veterans around here ;)
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| 18:22 | <a5benwillis> http://pastebin.com/886249
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| 18:22 | <Gadi> cliebow_'s my biggest and only fan...
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| 18:22 | <a5benwillis> thats the //etc/pam.d/gdm file
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| 18:23 | <a5benwillis> it allows gdm login, it authenticates and creates the user on the ubuntu box if it doesn not exist.
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| 18:23 | <cliebow_> yes..the "You didnt do anything silly like put your profiles into your homedir in ldap" line still sticks out
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| 18:24 | weird..still the dublr calal to ncp
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| 18:24 | heh double call to ncp
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| 18:24 | <a5benwillis> where???
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| 18:24 | it only has one pam_ncp_auth.so call
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| 18:25 | wait nm
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| 18:25 | lol
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| 18:25 | <cliebow_> 7 and 14
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| 18:25 | <Gadi> thats not the whole file is it?
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| 18:25 | <cliebow_> one auth one session
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| 18:26 | <a5benwillis> yes
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| 18:26 | <Gadi> I think you may have not pasted it all
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| 18:26 | the gdm one
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| 18:26 | I only get to line 16
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| 18:26 | <a5benwillis> thats all of it
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| 18:26 | <cliebow_> like no passwd ref?
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| 18:27 | <a5benwillis> I got that file from this link:
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| 18:27 | http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/appnote/6019.html
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| 18:27 | then modifies the auth line to work for me using automagic account creation
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| 18:27 | there are numerous how-tos out there but as I said none mention SSH
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| 18:28 | <Gadi> put the Password line is commented out?
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| 18:28 | <a5benwillis> http://deandra.homeip.net/hacks/ndstermserver.shtml
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| 18:29 | <a5benwillis> again, testing
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| 18:29 | works fine thouhg
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| 18:29 | <cliebow_> i dont think password line is commented in the original
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| 18:29 | <a5benwillis> that line just tells it to require a min of 4 chars in the password right
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| 18:30 | <cliebow_> yep
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| 18:58 | <a5benwillis> go get some rest and I'll find you tomorrow :)
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| 18:59 | <Gadi> heh, thx - forget rest - i need to drive home
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| 18:59 | :)
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| 18:59 | good night
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| 18:59 | <a5benwillis> oh! doh
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| 19:00 | <cliebow> doh?
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| 19:00 | <a5benwillis> thought he was already home
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| 19:00 | <cliebow> he works late..
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| 19:00 | <a5benwillis> thought you left cliebow
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| 19:00 | <cliebow> just to switch wm
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| 19:00 | go to get to volume control when reggae comes on
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| 19:01 | <a5benwillis> Im gonna email the ltsp email list in a few. surely someone on there has seen this
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| 19:01 | ah
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| 19:01 | <cliebow> perhaps..maybe write daniel? who wroite the k12ltsp
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| 19:01 | piece
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| 19:02 | <a5benwillis> ive written several people directly, no responses yet
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| 19:02 | Ive got to get this working. Its a pilot for a network with 6000 clients and 16k users
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| 19:02 | were a medium sized school district
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| 19:03 | <cliebow> i know...important stuff..i only got 2500
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| 19:03 | <a5benwillis> school district?
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| 19:03 | <cliebow> you firmly entrenched in netware?
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| 19:04 | <a5benwillis> its been here much longer than me
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| 19:04 | <cliebow> guess so then..
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| 19:04 | <a5benwillis> Im slowly converting things to linux and windows AD
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| 19:04 | theres around 25 netware servers
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| 19:05 | abt the same number of windows
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| 19:07 | <cliebow> not openldap?
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| 19:09 | <a5benwillis> as apposed to NCP?
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| 19:09 | much harder to get the home directories mapped as they are on the netware boxs
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| 19:09 | <a5benwillis> ok, new ssh file didnt help. abt to try his last suggestion
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| 19:12 | weh still nogo
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| 19:13 | <cliebow> hmmm.any way to increase logging to see what is going on..that is what i love about ldap
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| 19:14 | even wireshark?
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| 19:17 | <a5benwillis> well
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| 19:18 | the -d option sets it to debug mode and it logs to /var/log/auth.log
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| 19:18 | thats where I get the error that the pass is wrong
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| 19:20 | i used wireshark to get the gdm login working but havent tried it with the ssh issue
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| 19:20 | Im not sure that I'de see a whole lot
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| 19:20 | but I'll try it
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| 19:21 | <cliebow> at least it is a ray of hope 8~)
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| 19:25 | <a5benwillis> is usre need something lol
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| 19:26 | I just email the ltsp mail list as well
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| 19:46 | <a5benwillis> hola
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| 19:51 | <TheProf> Hello. Any tips on how to get arabic language support in Open office through ltsp?
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| 19:51 | I know this doesn't relate directly to ltsp, but the channel is usually full of geniuses :)
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| 19:53 | <cliebow> guess we re all shriveled up tonight
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| 19:53 | <TheProf> argh :)
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| 19:54 | <cliebow> Gadi went home..havnt seen jammcq tonight...mistik1 is around..or was
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| 19:54 | <TheProf> any thoughts yourself?
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| 19:54 | <cliebow> havnt heard much from the rest of the gents
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| 19:54 | afraid i cant help there
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| 19:55 | but it seems an openoffice prob
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| 19:57 | <TheProf> yeah. tried to set the language in there but it just writes right to left but still latin letters
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| 19:57 | And any websites that offer help are in arabic, which I can't read! (setting it up for someone else)
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| 20:00 | Ah well. Thanks for the chat. I've got to split for a while.
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| 20:00 | <cliebow> figures 8~)
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| 20:00 | <TheProf> bye
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| 20:28 | <Aaron|Feldman> hi all
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| 20:28 | something kind of strange happened on my ltsp server
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| 20:29 | all of a sudden at the command prompt I am aaron@ws137
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| 20:29 | and I am sitting at the server console
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| 20:30 | I didn't set a ws # for the server at all
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| 20:31 | anybody have any idea
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| 20:38 | <a5benwillis> sounds like a dns update
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| 20:38 | <Aaron|Feldman> really?
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| 20:39 | <a5benwillis> the ws name was read from dns, is it possible that the servers ip was previously used by a workstation?
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| 20:39 | <Aaron|Feldman> I just installed a wireless router
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| 20:39 | I'm not sure
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| 20:39 | I certainly didn't set a workstation with that number
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| 20:39 | <jammcq> hey all
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| 20:39 | <a5benwillis> hi
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| 20:39 | <Aaron|Feldman> hi Jammcq
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| 20:40 | <a5benwillis> either of you guys use Netware?
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| 20:40 | <jammcq> certainly not me
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| 20:40 | <a5benwillis> trying to get my ltsp to autenticate against netware
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| 20:40 | <Aaron|Feldman> no, never
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| 20:40 | <a5benwillis> well, had to ask
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| 20:40 | <jammcq> seems like there's some info on that on the ltsp wiki
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| 20:40 | you aren't the first person to want to do that
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| 20:41 | <whiprush> jammcq: just sat in our first LTSP lab with real students.
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| 20:41 | <jammcq> oh?
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| 20:41 | <whiprush> jammcq: smashing success.
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| 20:41 | <jammcq> how'd it go?
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| 20:41 | coooooool
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| 20:41 | <Aaron|Feldman> thanks a5benwillis for your insight
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| 20:43 | <a5benwillis> did I help
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| 20:43 | yur welcome
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| 20:44 | <Aaron|Feldman> yes, I feel better now there is some explaination
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| 20:44 | I thought the computer was possessed
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| 20:44 | <a5benwillis> i dont think its anything to be alarmed about
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| 20:44 | <Aaron|Feldman> it was just strange, never seen it before
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| 21:19 | <knight> hi all
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| 23:04 | <knight> hey coyote10
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| 23:22 | <knight> hello vagrantc
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| 23:22 | <vagrantc> evening
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| 23:22 | <knight> not alot of activity today
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| 23:42 | <dan__t> Howdy.
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| 23:42 | Sorry, I know, I know - I should be talking more.
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| 23:42 | My LTSP setup is just going so well, and it is so well documented for the mostpart - I'm keeping myself plenty occupied!
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| 23:42 | ;)
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| 23:55 | <mathesis> vagrantc:
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| 23:56 | hi vagrantc
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