IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 11 February 2007 (all times are UTC)
| 00:00 | <mathesis> tenia usuario y no podia configurar
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| 00:05 | <mathesis> vagrantc, you can give link anterior
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| 01:17 | <mathesis> se vagrantc
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| 01:17 | estas despierto je je je
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| 02:12 | <af_> hi all
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| 02:14 | I have the graphic ldm? ok on the workstation, but I am not able to log in
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| 09:29 | <BarryAllen> hi all
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| 09:34 | please, someone can help with localdrives?
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| 09:34 | i found some docs about export they with samba... but i cant found anything about samba in the ltsp 4.1/2 docs
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| 09:37 | <cliebow> BarryAllen: we abandoned samba shares..lemme find the twelve step troubleshooter
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| 09:39 | http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LTSP-42-LocalDev
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| 10:37 | <BarryAllen> cliebow, tks
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| 10:40 | <mphill> are there any thin client online stores, my target price range is < $150 USD
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| 10:46 | <bronze> mphill: see "devon it"
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| 10:47 | <mphill> thank you
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| 10:47 | <bronze> http://www.devonit.com/
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| 10:47 | they have some for $149
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| 10:47 | \usually you need to be buying used to get into that range
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| 10:48 | <mphill> its ok
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| 10:48 | its for a school
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| 10:49 | <cliebow> sales@ewayco.com
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| 10:50 | Tiny PC US$99 qty 1, 200Mhz fanless CPU, 128Mb Ram. ($85 qty)..problem is shipping/wiriing money
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| 10:51 | <petre> I've got one of the Devon IT $149 machines; works great
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| 10:51 | If you buy 30+ of them, you can get the price down to $130
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| 10:52 | <mphill> nice
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| 10:52 | <petre> they're not as tiny as the Tiny PC, but easier to get
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| 10:52 | They're about the size of a hardcover novel
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| 10:52 | <mphill> well thanks, I have to run... I will look into Devon.
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| 10:53 | <petre> cliebow, did you ever get your Tiny PC?
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| 10:55 | <salotti> hi there, I have a server 64 bits / clients 64 bits lan here working fine, on edubuntu. where i can find info to boot i386 pcs too on the same server??
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| 11:21 | <BarryAllen> cliebow, ... im having problem to instal X11::Protocol... cpan does not found my DISPLAY... that why im logged remotely with ssh
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| 11:22 | some tip, to "avoid" that check?
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| 11:33 | cliebow, ... i skiped the tests, i think works now...
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| 11:33 | jsut one more thing....
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| 11:34 | in that doc... i found packages for a lot of distros... but im using the iso packages into my box.... is there an "localdev" tgz ?
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| 11:59 | <cliebow> hmm..seems to me i somehow opened the rpm and grabbed the stuff out of it..did it manually more or less
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| 11:59 | pretty straightforward really..
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| 12:04 | <BarryAllen> ... ... some steps forward.... now, i get the name of the partitions on my dekstop... but they "seems" empty
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| 12:06 | <mathesis> hi
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| 12:08 | In ltsp 5 it is necessary to define in lts.conf the audio one for each termina?
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| 12:09 | <nofxx> how to use nvidia gpu drivers on the clients?
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| 12:11 | ccherrett: hey man... remember me from the broadcom network prblem?? yea.. it was the damn broadcom.... now running perfect on realtek
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| 12:13 | <cliebow> BarryAllen:prob perms on /dev/fuse..or you dont have a fuse group..if perms on /dev/fuse are 666 you should be golden
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| 12:13 | nofxx: you speaking to me?
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| 12:15 | <nofxx> cliebow: hey man.. yea.. you too .... ogra too.... that annoying kernel panic
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| 12:15 | <BarryAllen> yeap, just a sec, ill check it
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| 12:17 | <cliebow> nofxx: cool! glad you got around that..
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| 12:18 | <nofxx> cliebow: its incredible fast man....ltsp got me!
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| 12:20 | now I just need to set up a i386 image too...
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| 12:23 | <cliebow> what are you in ppc?
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| 12:24 | you drank the koolaid too!
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| 12:30 | <BarryAllen> cliebow, working now, tks a lot :)
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| 12:36 | <BarryAllen> cliebow, and about sound... i found some xtras packages to ltsp 4.1
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| 12:37 | i can use that with ltsp 4.2 ?
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| 12:41 | <cliebow> sound is an enigma to me...i have it working ore or less..but havnt a clue what was the instrumental step
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| 12:42 | but yes..i think nothing changed there.Scottie has been working on it with ogra and jammcq
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| 12:42 | <BarryAllen> ok, ill try the extra packages of 4.1 :)
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| 12:43 | im very impressed with fuse... its very good!
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| 12:44 | s/impressed/impressioned
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| 12:44 | rs
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| 12:45 | <nofxx> any good link for installing a i386 image on edubuntu?
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| 12:46 | <mathesis> se ogra
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| 12:54 | <cliebow> you meana root file system?
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| 12:55 | <cliebow> n0fxx: you mean a root file system?
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| 12:56 | <DigitalNinja> Does the Ubuntu version of LTSP use "lts.conf"? It's not in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/
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| 12:59 | <DigitalNinja> Just googled for lts.conf and Ubuntu
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| 13:00 | They don't put one in by default
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| 13:00 | I need to create one
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| 13:17 | <nofxx> help getting a i386 boot on my edubuntu 64 server... please..?? heh
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| 13:23 | <nofxx> cliebow: hey sorry ... missed .. yes... the root file system
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| 13:24 | and you need to change some stuff on dhcp too , right? 64 go /opt/amd64 ... /i386
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| 13:24 | <cliebow> i can tar one up..but it will be tomorrow prob..cause i have wrong hard drive in the lappie
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| 13:24 | <nofxx> that's all I know...
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| 13:24 | hum... i think I get it... I need a i386 already installed... can be on another machine?
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| 13:25 | then just put the hd in this pc?
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| 13:26 | <cliebow> you can build on one machine tar it andd move it..i think even you can take edubuntu ltsp5 root file syataem and kernel..and run it on another distro..as long as you use its kernel
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| 13:26 | there would be a couple things missing
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| 13:26 | <nofxx> so ... hum.. gonna install edubuntu 32 on machine A, tar all the /
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| 13:27 | machine b ltsp-build-client machineA.tar
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| 13:27 | <cliebow> or i c an just put one up for you..might haVE ALREADY
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| 13:28 | <nofxx> being ubuntu ... heheh this should be on the repositories... why not?
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| 13:28 | well that's great
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| 13:28 | won't make too trouble for ya?
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| 13:29 | <cliebow> http://169.244.3.137/nfs/ltsp5.tar.gz
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| 13:29 | <nofxx> 404
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| 13:30 | <cliebow> yeah..gotta move it
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| 13:30 | cd ..
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| 13:32 | http://169.244.3.137/ltsp5.tar.gz
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| 13:32 | whats that give ya
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| 13:33 | <nofxx> a very cool download.. xD
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| 13:33 | <cliebow> it will be a little slow..
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| 13:33 | <nofxx> wow its great...170kb
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| 13:34 | <cliebow> ac202bfa889a4ea2021b1b79af79a706
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| 13:34 | md5sum
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| 13:34 | <nofxx> ah tnx....
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| 13:34 | man this is complex.... hum.. what distro is you are givin me ??? heheh makes difference?
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| 13:35 | ltsp-build-client yourfile.tar /otp/ltsp/i386 is what i need ??
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| 13:36 | <cliebow> just tar -xzvf
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| 13:36 | its all built
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| 13:37 | <nofxx> cliebow: hahah... cool
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| 13:38 | now just tweak /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf
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| 13:39 | <cliebow> sure..might just llook itr over..pretty sure i sent the right stuff
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| 13:39 | <nofxx> ahh that iincludes dhcpd.conf ? hey where I send the beer?
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| 13:42 | man I 'm hungry... brb
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| 13:43 | <wizzy> I have set up ldap authentication for login. I see that libnss_ldap searches for (&(objectClass=shadowAccount)(uid=andyr))
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| 13:43 | I do not have shadow anything in my ldap dir - can I ask it to skip that objectClass, or substitute posixAccount ?
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| 13:43 | <cliebow> send the beer to ogra and jammcq 8~)
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| 14:15 | <DigitalNinja> If I setup Firefox as a local application can I listen to sound on the net?
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| 14:33 | <str4nd> ogra: Gentoo, Debian or Ubuntu to HP Proliant DL 360 G5?
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| 14:40 | <nofxx> cliebow: oh man.. unbelievble.... power just gone
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| 14:41 | was 91%.... : (
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| 15:28 | <cliebow> say what???
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| 16:11 | <nofxx> cliebow: 3th time lost power.... but finally I got the file
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| 16:12 | everything was working here just fine... now the clients stops on the splash screen... where is that file to enable verbose mode???? totally forgot
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| 16:29 | <cliebow> pxelinux.cfg?
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| 17:33 | <mathesis> i need keyboar in latam in edubuntu
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| 19:13 | <doofy2> so im a little confused. Once you install ltsp how do you choose which os you want the thin clients to run?
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| 19:14 | that was worded terribly... ignore it please
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| 20:51 | <petre> cliebow: did you ever get your $99 mini pc?
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| 20:57 | <cliebow> never did..couldnt get my visa to go thru..school didnt fornt hte money..and for one unit it seemed a lot of overhead
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| 20:57 | balls!
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| 20:57 | never did..couldnt get my visa to go thru..school didnt front the money..and for one unit it seemed a lot of overhead
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| 20:57 | <petre> I'd like to get one, but I figure I'll wait until a US distributor is established
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| 20:58 | 'course, that'll probably drive the price up a bit.
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| 20:58 | <cliebow> ive tried to get ron at diskless to look into it..but never made contact
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| 20:59 | i tried thru eway.com too..wiring the money was like 30 dollara
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| 20:59 | school seems quitre happy iusing junk and lleftovers
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| 21:00 | <petre> one would think someone in the US would be importing them big time
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| 21:00 | but I've not heard of anyone doing so thus far
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| 21:01 | <cliebow> really..i have lots of ibooks waiting to die..but cant get em to use windows dhcp
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| 21:01 | <petre> yes, free is nice
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| 21:01 | <cliebow> they would make tidy clients
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| 21:01 | <petre> will they work with linux's dhcpd
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| 21:02 | <cliebow> yep
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| 21:02 | * petre can't remember the name/TLA of the group that make the stock dhcpd | |
| 21:02 | <cliebow> but htey need port 67..and my linux dhcpp is on 1001
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| 21:02 | <petre> ah, and windows dhcpd is on 67?
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| 21:03 | <cliebow> yes
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| 21:03 | <petre> so that ne'er the two shall meet?
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| 21:03 | why do you need the windows dhcpd?
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| 21:04 | <cliebow> yes..but most will get htheir paramaeters from windows..like the netvista...i.. dont..need windows dhcp but that is what is set up..
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| 21:05 | <petre> right, gotta fit into existing infrastructure
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| 21:05 | are you running any OS X servers?
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| 21:06 | <cliebow> my eyes have gone crossed trying to figure out why an g3 bondi pos will boot perfectly..but the g3 ibook wont from windows
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| 21:06 | <cliebow> osx..just the imaging machine on a seperate network
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| 21:06 | <cliebow> ive finetoothed the packets..
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| 21:07 | windows offers...there is Nothing i can see to make one macintoosh work the other not
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| 21:08 | other than knowing one requires bootp..the other dhcp
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| 21:08 | <petre> I thought all Macs were the same ;-)
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| 21:08 | <cliebow> me too...
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| 21:08 | <petre> at least, that's what my mac friends brag about
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| 21:08 | <cliebow> course the minimac is another hoss altogether
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| 21:08 | <petre> brag is probably too strong a word, but you get the idea
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| 21:08 | <cliebow> yes
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| 21:08 | <petre> do you know if anyone has gotten sound working with Mac TCs?
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| 21:09 | <cliebow> the proprietary stuff drives me crazy..
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| 21:09 | <petre> I thought I saw something on the K12LTSP list about a while back, but can't find anything in the archives now
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| 21:09 | <cliebow> yes i know several that have claimed to.havnt tried to reprofuce
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| 21:09 | <petre> I think Kronebusch had to give up and move onto other things before he got it working
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| 21:10 | <cliebow> stefan even claims to have sound on the ibm netvista client
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| 21:10 | with a ppc cpu
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| 21:10 | <petre> yeah, been following that; sounds cool
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| 21:10 | more cpu archs, the better
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| 21:10 | <cliebow> nice work..tjhough i havnt made it work yet 8`)
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| 21:11 | <petre> my (kids') school has a ton of old macs
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| 21:11 | <cliebow> i wish diskless could make their clients more affordable..they gave me one to show off ..but no takers at 300 each..
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| 21:12 | <petre> they'd make great TCs, but the techs aren't very adventurous, so if sound doesn't work, they won't even try I suspect
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| 21:12 | <cliebow> the macs without openfirmware ive never tacckled
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| 21:12 | <petre> yeah, I'd love to support jamcq's company, but the price is a bit high
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| 21:12 | <cliebow> id bet using the ltsp5 of ogras they would..for a root filesystem
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| 21:13 | <petre> Devon has better prices, though I've only got one unit
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| 21:14 | you think ogra's 5 sound will work with the old macs?
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| 21:14 | is that all the gstreamer stuff?
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| 21:14 | sorry, you meant the openfirmware macs
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| 21:14 | <cliebow> id need to ask..to be sure..the soundcard detection should be awesome
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| 21:15 | <petre> are those the older ones
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| 21:15 | <cliebow> are yours openfirmware?
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| 21:15 | <petre> not sure--don't know my macs too well
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| 21:15 | for the pilot I got the superintendent to finance, we're using a bunch of dell laptops that my company donated
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| 21:15 | about 80 of 'em
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| 21:15 | <cliebow> at boot..try cmd-opt o-f see if they boot to openfirmware
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| 21:16 | are they puce? and lime green..and other really "newworld"colors?
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| 21:17 | <petre> those are the transluscent, kinda high gloss colored ones, right?
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| 21:17 | I've seen some blue ones, some greyish ones
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| 21:17 | <cliebow> ummmm..not too sure..if they boot to openfirmware they should netboot
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| 21:17 | <vagrantc> sound detection for ubuntu's ltsp5 should be as good as sound card detection for ubuntu ...
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| 21:18 | <petre> They also have a bunch of really old beige plastic cased ones
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| 21:18 | <vagrantc> that's the whole idea behind ltsp 5 :)
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| 21:18 | <cliebow> otherwise..nmo one i know of has worked out the details to make em "chubby" clients
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| 21:18 | <vagrantc> though there's a few gotchas, with remote sound ...
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| 21:18 | <petre> vagrantc: I bought a celeron box recently, MSI motherboard I think
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| 21:18 | dapper won't run, nor will edgy
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| 21:19 | it locks up during the hardware detection
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| 21:19 | bummer
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| 21:19 | OTOH, fedora 6 installed without a hitch, so that's what it's running now.
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| 21:19 | <cliebow> i had one today crap out with edgy..but dapper installed fine
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| 21:19 | <petre> I'm hoping feisty will run on it.
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| 21:20 | install nothing--I can't even get it to run from the livecd
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| 21:20 | <cliebow> petre..let me know if your macs boot to openfirmware..
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| 21:21 | <petre> I'll check next week (not this coming week--the tech at the school is on vacation this coming week)
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| 21:21 | I had a loaner mac for a while; it netbooted
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| 21:22 | <cliebow> i used nubus mac s chubbies for a year...with kernel/initrd on the local hard drive..but i used mklinux booter nd that wot work on g3..far as i know\\
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| 21:22 | <petre> I recall that you helped me get that running
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| 21:22 | but I had to give it back when fall came
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| 21:22 | the screen was always a bit dim i thought
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| 21:22 | <cliebow> i did?? Cool!! there is a cetain amount of voodoo and pixie duxt involved locally
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| 21:23 | that i cant help with from maine
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| 21:23 | <petre> my hope has always been that the school techs, once they see the ease of administration with a LTSP,
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| 21:23 | would use their old macs as thin or chubby clients
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| 21:23 | <cliebow> absolutely..
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| 21:23 | <petre> the tech director even understands the idea, but nothing ever comes of it
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| 21:24 | may be a bit of 'not invented here'
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| 21:24 | <cliebow> i run remote admin for twelve schools all alone..but it takes 3 to keep the windows side going just for our district
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| 21:25 | <petre> they also have to support the computer labs in the 'community-centers-that-used-to-be-schools'
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| 21:25 | which would be perfect for thin clients
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| 21:25 | we have three techs in the district office, which is attached to the high school
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| 21:25 | <cliebow> it is a lot more complicated..but just the same i can take over a session in any school and see what they are having trouble with
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| 21:25 | <petre> plus one tech in each of the elem. schools and the jr high.
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| 21:26 | <cliebow> nx rocks!
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| 21:26 | <petre> yeah, I love nx
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| 21:27 | <cliebow> petre: i gotta pack it in..see ya next time around...lemme know if i can help with the ppc side
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| 21:27 | <petre> will do
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| 21:28 | <cliebow> Cool1
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| 21:43 | <mathesis> se vagrantc
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| 21:43 | se ogra
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| 21:59 | <kaos01> hi, is ltsp4.2 work with broadcom NIC ?
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| 21:59 | i seemd to get an error
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| 22:30 | <mathesis> you boot floppy or pxeboot?
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| 22:30 | se vagrantc
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| 22:32 | <kaos01> i had to use kernal param of NIC=tg3 :)
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| 22:51 | <vagrantc_> mathesis: usually pxe these days. but sometimes pxe on a floppy. not so much etherboot anymore.
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| 23:04 | <mathesis> se vagrantc_ ya tengo trabajndo ltspfs and audio in the thinclient
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| 23:08 | vagrantc_, como puedo escuhar en mozilla firefox el audio de youtube.com
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| 23:08 | solo pudo yo ver los videos pero no escuho el audio
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| 23:08 | y con xmms si tengo audio en los clientes
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| 23:08 | <vagrantc_> mathesis: no se ...
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| 23:09 | mathesis: necesito configurar firefox usa "esound"
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| 23:10 | <mathesis> how can i configure firefox with esound , say me example please
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| 23:10 | <vagrantc_> no se
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| 23:31 | <mathesis> vagrantc_, who is for change language thin clients?
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| 23:32 | <vagrantc_> mathesis: support for that is not very good... you can select it at login from LDM.
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| 23:32 | mathesis: but it won't remember between logins ... there should be a way to set the user default language, but i'm not real familiar with how to do that.
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| 23:35 | <mathesis> my user defaul have fine the language
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| 23:36 | <vagrantc_> mathesis: maybe i don't understand your question, then ... ?
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| 23:37 | <mathesis> vagrantc_, como tecleo ñ en ingles?
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| 23:38 | <vagrantc_> mathesis: no entiendo la pregunta
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| 23:39 | <mathesis> en el cliente cuando quiero escribir "ñ" ejecuta ";"
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| 23:40 | excuse
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| 23:40 | ready
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| 23:40 | i have the language fine
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| 23:41 | <vagrantc_> ok... you need to configure the terminals to use the appropriate keyboard.
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| 23:41 | <mathesis> sep
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| 23:43 | <vagrantc_> mathesis: en lts.conf: XKBLAYOUT, XKBMODEL, XKBRULES, XKBOPTIONS, XKBVARIANT ... no se cual necesita
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| 23:44 | <mathesis> XKBMODEL
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| 23:44 | vagrantc_, tengo que definirlo terminal por terminal?
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| 23:58 | <vagrantc_> mathesis: tiene al mismo tecladores por todo los terminales ?
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