IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 6 June 2016 (all times are UTC)
| 00:07 | <vagrantc> sbalneav: looks like you've been busy! :)
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| 09:38 | <sromanczukiewicz> Hi
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| 09:39 | <alkisg> Hello
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| 10:33 | <Rosie_> hi
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| 10:33 | i need help with my LTSP client.
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| 10:33 | I have img file from /opt/images/ and i need check kernel version in this .img file.
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| 10:34 | Can you help me?
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| 10:48 | <Rosie_> hi
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| 12:27 | <vlt> !bugtracker
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| 12:27 | <ltsp> Error: "bugtracker" is not a valid command.
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| 12:28 | <vlt> Hello. Where can I report a bug to?
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| 12:32 | <ogra_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp/+filebug
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| 12:33 | <vlt> ogra_: Thanks.
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| 13:53 | <sbalneav> :q
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| 18:31 | <sbalneav> vagrantc: libnss-external's a bust. It won't work, and I've spent the morning getting the sshauth to work with pam_python, which is already packaged. I've just done a login with pam_python + script + nss-extrausers, which works fine.
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| 18:32 | So we don't need any packaging for either pam-external or nss-external.
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| 18:32 | ah well, easy come, easy go. :D
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| 19:03 | <vagrantc> sbalneav: oh, pam_python basically does what you wanted pam-external to do?
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| 19:04 | in a sense, having code that other people (allegedly) maintain is a great win! :)
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| 19:06 | <maldridge> its just the alleged maintenence that gets to be a problem
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| 19:06 | <vagrantc> yeah
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| 19:08 | <sbalneav> I've just checked, it's still an active project.
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| 19:09 | <vagrantc> last upload to debian was almost 2 years ago ... but new upstream version wasn't released till february 2016 looks like
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| 19:09 | <sbalneav> maldridge: That's a problem with all free software. Alternatives: Mac OSX, Microsoft Windows. :D
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| 19:10 | Minor updates, nothing that would affect us.
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| 19:10 | <vagrantc> sbalneav: so, knowing what you know now ... is libpam-python the way to go ... or does libpam-sshauth need more work?
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| 19:12 | <maldridge> sbalneav: I'd say its a problem with all software, not just free software
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| 19:12 | <sbalneav> Our goal is: "as little compiled code as we can manage". If I can get a login-authenticator going under libpam-python, that fits in with our goals.
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| 19:12 | <vagrantc> wow, someone updated sourceforge.net to the current millenia
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| 19:12 | <sbalneav> I'll continue working on that for the next couple of days.
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| 19:12 | <vagrantc> sbalneav: python for pam authentication might add some ram and cpu overhead ... but maybe given everything else running, it's fine.
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| 19:13 | <sbalneav> Well, authentication happens very infrequently
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| 19:13 | Once at login
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| 19:14 | and again everytime you'll unlock a screen saver
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| 19:14 | <vagrantc> sure... just curious if it's bumping the minimum ram required
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| 19:14 | <sbalneav> Given the number of things that run now with python, I don't think it should.
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| 19:15 | <vagrantc> yeah, just stating the obvious concerns :)
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| 19:15 | <sbalneav> Sure, let's keep an eye on it, absolutely.
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| 19:16 | We can always pick up libpam-sshauth again if we need to, it's just that it's a *HECK* of a lot easier to write something in python than it is in C.
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| 19:16 | <vagrantc> sure
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| 19:16 | given that "write in C" usually amounts to "wait till sbalneav has time for it" :)
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| 19:17 | and python, well, a number of us are more able to fumble our way through it :)
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| 19:18 | <sbalneav> That's the goal; if we can make everything available in scripting, it means the bar is greatly lowered for participation in LTSP development.
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| 19:29 | <maldridge> 10/10 would develope for LTSP in python
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| 19:29 | <maldridge> s/pe/p/
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| 19:29 | <alkisg> Why? E.g. the ltsp-cluster code was all "sed, ip, awk" etc in python, which wasn't very readable
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| 19:30 | <maldridge> I'm still not clear what ltsp-cluster was for
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| 19:30 | * alkisg managed to implement some support for multiseat support LTSP... how do these look like? SCREEN_07="ldm -seat seat-1" SCREEN_07_WAIT_FGCONSOLE=False SCREEN_07_LDM_AUTOLOGIN="True" | |
| 19:31 | <alkisg> SCREEN_08="ldm -seat seat0"
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| 19:31 | UDEV_SEAT_1_GRAPHICS="*/pci*/*/0000:01:00.0*"
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| 19:31 | UDEV_SEAT_1_SOUND="*/sound/card1*"
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| 19:31 | UDEV_SEAT_1_USB="*/usb?/?-[1,3,5,7,9,11,13,15,17,19]/*"
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| 19:32 | <vagrantc> whoah
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| 19:32 | <alkisg> vagrantc: WAIT_FGCONSOLE=False, does that make sense? (in order for ldm to start in that seat, without waiting for fgconsole=SCREEN_NUM
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| 19:32 | I've also implemented per-screen directives, like SCREEN_07_LDM_AUTOLOGIN="True"
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| 19:33 | <vagrantc> alkisg: makes sense ... not sure if there's better wording
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| 19:33 | * vagrantc thinks a bit | |
| 19:33 | <vagrantc> alkisg: cool!
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| 19:33 | <alkisg> WAIT_FOR_VT_ACTIVATED seems too long
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| 19:33 | And the UDEV_SEAT_* directives are for hardware matching, they match udev's DEVPATH
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| 19:34 | <alkisg> So the end result is, that with 1 extra pci-e graphics card, and mouse/keyb/monitor, you can an extra seat for each ltsp client
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| 19:35 | *s/can/get/
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| 19:35 | <vagrantc> some clients even have multiple displays on-board...
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| 19:35 | <alkisg> Multiple displays should be supported; multiple outputs (dual head etc), not yet...
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| 19:36 | Those require xephyr, it's not proper multiseat
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