IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 21 May 2023 (all times are UTC)
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| 08:11 | <alkisg> !ssh
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| 08:11 | <ltspbot> I do not know about 'ssh', but I do know about these similar topics: 'sshd'
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| 08:11 | <alkisg> !sshd
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| 08:11 | <ltspbot> sshd: Exposing sshd host keys over NFS is unsafe, so it's disabled by default and !epoptes is recommended instead. If you insist on running sshd in LTSP clients, read https://github.com/ltsp/ltsp/discussions/310#discussioncomment-101549
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| 10:24 | <bildo> alkisg That is what I thought... Shame, it was a very easy way to get lightweight apps working on older hardware with no browsing or video.... Thanks anyway!
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| 10:24 | <alkisg> bildo: it's a problem with the internet, not with the software. Graphics isn't about fonts and arcs anymore, like it was in the past; its about youtube videos :)
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| 10:25 | So remote xorg isn't suitable anymore; remote desktop is
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| 10:25 | bildo: you can still use ltsp with old hardware and then use remote desktop on top of it
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| 10:26 | But if the apps are lightweight and no browsing or video is needed, then you can run them directly on the clients, there's no need for anything remote
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| 10:26 | (i.e. diskless fat clients, as we call them)
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| 10:27 | <bildo> alkisg: That is very true. In my specific use case it was very handy, I had a bunch of old computer, set up Hexchat with a specific server and just added users, they could use any pc and get the same pesonalised setup
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| 10:27 | <alkisg> bildo: they can still do that, it's what ltsp exists for
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| 10:27 | You don't need remote xorg to do that
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| 10:29 | <bildo> alkisg: I have to do some more research on the topic, would you happen to have any resources you could point me to?
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| 10:29 | <alkisg> bildo: just do a typical ltsp installation and test; it takes less than an hour, and most of it is just waiting....
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| 10:30 | <bildo> Ok, thanks
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| 10:30 | <alkisg> https://ltsp.org/docs/installation/
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| 10:30 | Follow the "chrootless" part. What hardware do you clients have, do you know the exact CPU and RAM?
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| 10:32 | <bildo> I have an assorted collection of old donated hardware, anything from EEE 701 through Asus i3
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| 10:33 | <alkisg> Eh, that's not old hardware :D
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| 10:33 | Anything 64bit with 2+ GB RAM runs fine as fat clients
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| 10:33 | So just do a typical e.g. Ubuntu MATE 22.04 installation, then follow the ltsp installation instructions
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| 10:34 | <bildo> Ok, I will try that
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| 10:34 | <alkisg> Ah, if the eee pc is 32bit, then you'll need ubuntu 18.04 32bit instead
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| 10:34 | <bildo> Yes, it is
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| 10:35 | I think many of the computers are 32bit
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| 10:35 | <alkisg> OK then download ubuntu mate 18.04.5 and install your server with that one
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| 10:35 | (or any recent 32bit debian, if you don't mind the boot time)
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| 10:36 | <bildo> It is starting to become a problem to find a recent Linux distribution that supports 32bit
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| 10:36 | Personally, I prefer Debian to Ubuntu
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| 10:38 | alkisg: Thanks for you help, it has been illuminating!
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| 10:38 | <alkisg> Last I checked in some old PC, a local debian bullseye needed 2 minutes, and ubuntu 18 needed 1 minute
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| 10:38 | <bildo> That is completely acceptable
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| 10:38 | <alkisg> Go for bookworm 32bit then :)
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| 10:38 | <bildo> in my opininon
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| 10:39 | Heh :)
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