IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 18 November 2013   (all times are UTC)

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01:38
<vagrantc>
welcome back!
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01:39
<Ryan52>
s/the //
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09:51
<alkisg>
ogra_, bennabiy: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTUxNzY :)
09:51
<ogra_>
yeah, saw it
09:52
<alkisg>
Hehe that michael guy tries to find news wherever he can
09:52
<ogra_>
yeah, nothing happened last week, so he had to crawl mail archives ...
09:53
well, if the discussion that will start helps to make mint secure, thats a good thing at least ;)
09:54
<alkisg>
True!
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13:29
<gvs>
Hi, can I get access to non-printer non-storage devices on a client? I want to use a smartcard reader
13:29
localdev is enabled
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13:42
<Hyperbyte>
gvs, from local applications, sure... from server applications, you'd need an interface. LTSP only provides interface for sound, printers, storage, video, etc....
14:14
<gvs>
Hyperbyte: thanks, so no chance on getting this to work otherwise?
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14:15
<bennabiy>
alkisg: Interesting.
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16:44
<alkisg>
bennabiy: I have some free time, did you want something about your fat clients installation?
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16:49
<bennabiy>
I might be able to in about 10 minutes
16:49
I have a server down and am trying to get it up
16:50* bennabiy is learning to hat...love LDAP
16:51
<bennabiy>
I really would like to get a fat client stable, so I can be able to take my userload off the server
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16:59
<spotty_>
Hi
16:59
anybody here ?
17:06
<bennabiy>
!ask
17:06
<ltsp`>
ask: Don't ask to ask a question, simply ask it, and if someone knows the answer, they'll respond. Please hang around for at least a full hour after asking a question, as not everybody constantly monitors the channel.
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17:10
<bennabiy>
alkisg: how much time do you have?
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17:19
<alkisg>
bennabiy: maybe half an hour, !ask :)
17:22
<bennabiy>
bah!
17:22
I guess it will not work out for today.
17:22
I appreciate you letting me know though
17:23
<alkisg>
np
17:23
<bennabiy>
I will post my question when I get a chance to work on it.
17:23
on a side note, do you know of any good resources for learning greek for english speakers?
17:24
<alkisg>
I hear that getting a Greek girlfriend works fine for that :P
17:24
<cliebow>
heh
17:24
<alkisg>
(an on a more serious tone, no idea...)
17:26
<ogra_>
did it improve your greek ?
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19:06
<bennabiy>
ogra_ alkisg: http://segfault.linuxmint.com/2013/11/answering-controversy-stability-vs-security-is-something-you-configure/ a response
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19:39
<jammcq>
hey all. question for the geniuses: a diskless T-1220, anybody know the best Xserver driver to use?
19:40
<alkisg>
lspci -nn -k | grep -A 2 VGA
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19:41
<jammcq>
i'm not at the workstation. i'm trying to help someone who's asking me
19:41
i'll have him try that lspci to see what comes out
19:42
I think it's a VIA chipset
19:42
but we'll see
19:43
<alkisg>
If we have the pci id, we can then look at the entries in /lib/modules/3.8.0-33-generic/modules.pcimap
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19:43
<alkisg>
Usually the best is to let the autodetected driver, and only use vesa if that fails
19:43
<jammcq>
the screen is coming up black
19:43
he's running ubuntu 13.10
19:43
<alkisg>
But sometimes via chipsets are hit or miss and need nomodeset or even a specific kernel
19:44* alkisg prefers LTS editions because the easily allow different kernels, lts-raring, lts-quantal etc
19:44
<alkisg>
And even come with many different xorg versions, xorg-raring etc
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20:10
<ogra_>
bennabiy, FYI http://ograblog.wordpress.com/2013/11/18/lots-of-canonical-in-my-mouth/
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20:20
<alkisg>
Meh... so the main idea in all those threads is, don't publicly state any bad opinions about anything, if you don't want to waste hours blogging against conspiracy theories... :(
20:21* bennabiy corrects to wasting hours blogging period
20:28
<ogra_>
alkisg, well, funnily in exactly that mail is was totally aware of the flame potential ... which is why i checked the code i referred to twice and chose my words quite carefully ... (i remember explicitly adding the "personally" before sending it back then)
20:29
apparently that didnt save me though :)
20:30
the sad part is that the actual news "Mate is coming to debian and Ubuntu" totally drowned in the flamewar :(
20:33
<alkisg>
That's really good news, I hope it's available for 14.04, even if in a ppa
20:35
<ogra_>
thats what the thread was about ...
20:38
<bennabiy>
yes. clem made that comment as well ( cannot remember if in channel, or in his response)
20:38
in an ideal world, the actual news of mate being in debian or ubuntu should make everyone rejoice
20:39* bennabiy had no hard feelings towards ogra_ :)
20:39
<ogra_>
:)
20:39
i guess only some sensationalist commenters had hard feeelings after all ... sad is that so many people get caught by that
20:39
<bennabiy>
Although, you are welcome to move here for a time, and we can done lern ya' how to speak english!
20:40
<ogra_>
LOL
20:40
as long as you dont feed me raisins
20:40
<bennabiy>
hold on... getting my recorder ready... can you say that again?
20:40* ogra_ giggles
20:44
<bennabiy>
ogra_ any good with LDAP?
20:45
<ogra_>
nope, i used it years ago exactly once
20:46
<bennabiy>
ok
20:46
Care to state s/your/Canonical/g's opinion on the software?
20:46* bennabiy smiles
20:48
<bennabiy>
Sorry, I will let it rest
20:48
I really am not trying to give you a hard time
20:48
I am just trying to gain my sanity after trying to wrestle with LDAP
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21:16
<vmlintu>
bennabiy: Is LDAP beating you?
21:18
<bennabiy>
yes
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21:21
<vmlintu>
what kind of troble is it giving you?
21:24
<bennabiy>
Well, I am more trying to get my information for about 200 users into a format that I can easily use for citadel, openfire and global address book, sogo etc.
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21:25
<bennabiy>
I think I am coming out on the other side... brb
21:26
It is more extracting the info from the existing citadel install, putting it into ldif, and then bringing it all in
21:26
brb
21:27
<vmlintu>
what kind of system are you building?
21:30
<bennabiy>
It is for email, and address books, and authentication, possibly even trying to set up global LDAP users for a global LTSP directory
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21:31
<bennabiy>
my primary goal, SSO for openfire xmpp, citadel (for email and collab)
21:31
<vmlintu>
is it for schools or something else?
21:31
<bennabiy>
for our organization
21:33
<vmlintu>
I haven't heard about citadel for quite some time
21:33
<bennabiy>
It has come quite a long ways
21:34
but now I am trying to neuter it back to meet our needs
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21:36
<vmlintu>
xmpp reminds me that I should finally do some ejabberd configuration myself
21:37
<bennabiy>
I am impressed with openfire, but just cannot get file transfers to work properly.
21:37
citadel has a different approach to xmpp, which would be fine, but does not implement jingle or oob-stuff
21:39
<vmlintu>
have you tried any video conferencing software?
21:40
<bennabiy>
Trying to get an all in one as much as possible. The only reason I am even messing with LDAP is to not have to have multiple user stores
21:40
openfire supports video conference
21:42
<vmlintu>
hmm, maybe I should give openfire another look..
21:44
Have you tried how much it needs bandwidth for video conferencing?
21:46
<bennabiy>
Nope, I need to get LDAP fully configured before I can really get into it more
21:47
<vmlintu>
Are you using OpenLDAP or something else?
21:49
Learning LDAP was quite difficult at first.. took quite a while to understand all concepts..
21:53
<bennabiy>
OpenLDAP
21:53
It is so basic, but my brain is not so organized... I get confused at the amount of order
21:54
I am starting to understand the basics of it, but figuring out how to be able to use security groups, or to make use of it for more than just a username password store
21:57
<vmlintu>
I had to write a helper program to create the ACLs for OpenLDAP once they got too complicated..
21:58
<bennabiy>
perhaps you could send me some info that helped you. Ultimately I need to know which is more effective, to add individual ldifs at a time, or one large ldif for all the users, and then one at a time for new
21:58
back in a bit
22:01
<vmlintu>
We built our own management tool that adds them one by one even when mass creating users
22:02
I wouldn't worry about the user creating performance
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