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Channel log from 23 September 2020   (all times are UTC)

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00:51
<mathesis>
Hi everyone
00:52
this command ln -s "/home/user/VirtualBox VMs/debian/debian-flat.vmdk" /srv/ltsp/debian.img is if my server is a virtual machine?
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03:19
<mathesis>
hi, i am followed https://ltsp.org/docs/installation/ and https://ltsp.org/docs/installation/raspbian/
03:20
but my client raspbian no get ip address
03:20
I need create sdcard for get ip address
03:44
<alkisg>
mathesis: what is the error message?
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04:00
<mathesis>
alkisg:
04:00
raspberry pi 3 b not getting dhcp
04:00
<alkisg>
mathesis: this is not a real message
04:00
Get a photo please
04:04
<mathesis>
yes, wait
04:04
my server is in virtualbox with debian 10 andd desktop mate
04:00
alkisg:
04:00
raspberry pi 3 b not getting dhcp
04:00
<alkisg>
mathesis: this is not a real message
04:00
Get a photo please
04:04
<mathesis>
yes, wait
04:04
my server is in virtualbox with debian 10 andd desktop mate
04:05
https://postimg.cc/Snf6rnvv
04:05
<alkisg>
mathesis: I mean the error message of the raspberry pi boot screen
04:05
At the point where it has the problem
04:06
I.e. get a photo of the raspberry screen
04:06
<mathesis>
https://postimg.cc/bSnb2rnL
04:06
<alkisg>
mathesis: not the server screen; the client screen
04:07
Are you using a UART cable?
04:07
<mathesis>
does not give video
04:07
https://postimg.cc/Snf6rnvv
04:07
check this image
04:07
does not give video
04:08
<alkisg>
Which raspberry pi is that, 3?
04:09
<mathesis>
3 B v1.2
04:09
https://postimg.cc/QBRdKbqG
04:09
<alkisg>
This then should boot without an sd card
04:05
<mathesis>
https://postimg.cc/Snf6rnvv
04:05
<alkisg>
mathesis: I mean the error message of the raspberry pi boot screen
04:05
At the point where it has the problem
04:06
I.e. get a photo of the raspberry screen
04:06
<mathesis>
https://postimg.cc/bSnb2rnL
04:06
<alkisg>
mathesis: not the server screen; the client screen
04:07
Are you using a UART cable?
04:07
<mathesis>
does not give video
04:07
https://postimg.cc/Snf6rnvv
04:07
check this image
04:07
does not give video
04:08
<alkisg>
Which raspberry pi is that, 3?
04:09
<mathesis>
3 B v1.2
04:09
https://postimg.cc/QBRdKbqG
04:09
<alkisg>
This then should boot without an sd card
04:10
<mathesis>
no problem if the server is in virtualbox
04:10
?
04:10
<alkisg>
No
04:10
As long as it's in bridged mode
04:11
<mathesis>
yes i have network in bridge mode
04:11
the ip is 192.168.1.87
04:12
i need put macaddress in lts.conf?
04:12
how can i check all services from lts
04:12
how can i check all services from ltsp?
04:14
<alkisg>
mathesis: I think I'll have time to help you with remote support in 2 hours, if you want, come back then
04:10
<mathesis>
no problem if the server is in virtualbox
04:10
?
04:10
<alkisg>
No
04:10
As long as it's in bridged mode
04:11
<mathesis>
yes i have network in bridge mode
04:11
the ip is 192.168.1.87
04:12
i need put macaddress in lts.conf?
04:12
how can i check all services from lts
04:12
how can i check all services from ltsp?
04:14
<alkisg>
mathesis: I think I'll have time to help you with remote support in 2 hours, if you want, come back then
04:15
<mathesis>
https://postimg.cc/XpR4n84T
04:15
ok alkisg
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04:15
<mathesis>
https://postimg.cc/XpR4n84T
04:15
ok alkisg
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05:16
<alkisg>
mathesis: do vnc:
05:16
!vnc-dide
05:16
<ltspbot>
vnc-dide: To share your screen with me, run this: sudo apt-get --yes install x11vnc; x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr - this is a reverse connection, it doesn't need port forwarding etc.
05:16
<ltspbot`>
vnc-dide: To share your screen with me, run this: sudo apt-get --yes install x11vnc; x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr - this is a reverse connection, it doesn't need port forwarding etc.
05:16
<alkisg>
mathesis: do vnc:
05:16
!vnc-dide
05:16
<ltspbot`>
vnc-dide: To share your screen with me, run this: sudo apt-get --yes install x11vnc; x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr - this is a reverse connection, it doesn't need port forwarding etc.
05:16
<ltspbot>
vnc-dide: To share your screen with me, run this: sudo apt-get --yes install x11vnc; x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr - this is a reverse connection, it doesn't need port forwarding etc.
05:40
<mathesis>
alkisg:
05:40
ok
05:41
alkisg: i have ssh + tmux
05:41
<alkisg>
mathesis: is x11vnc a problem?
05:41
It's just one command, x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr
05:42
<mathesis>
ok
05:43
ready
05:43
<alkisg>
I didn't receive a connection
05:43
Do not run it as root, run it from a normal graphical terminal
05:44
I.e. it needs xorg/DISPLAY access
05:44
<mathesis>
ok
05:40
alkisg:
05:40
ok
05:41
alkisg: i have ssh + tmux
05:41
<alkisg>
mathesis: is x11vnc a problem?
05:41
It's just one command, x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr
05:42
<mathesis>
ok
05:43
ready
05:43
<alkisg>
I didn't receive a connection
05:43
Do not run it as root, run it from a normal graphical terminal
05:44
I.e. it needs xorg/DISPLAY access
05:44
<mathesis>
ok
05:45
ready
05:48
<alkisg>
mathesis: try to boot the client
05:48
<mathesis>
ok
05:49
ready
05:49
<alkisg>
Is it connected to the same subnet? I didn't see any dhcp requests
05:49
Try to netboot a nearby PC, with x86 architecture
05:49
<mathesis>
only have one raspberry
05:50
<alkisg>
What is your host operating system, outside of virtualbox?
05:45
<mathesis>
ready
05:48
<alkisg>
mathesis: try to boot the client
05:48
<mathesis>
ok
05:49
ready
05:49
<alkisg>
Is it connected to the same subnet? I didn't see any dhcp requests
05:49
Try to netboot a nearby PC, with x86 architecture
05:49
<mathesis>
only have one raspberry
05:50
<alkisg>
What is your host operating system, outside of virtualbox?
05:50
<mathesis>
mac os catalina
05:50
mac os catalina
05:50
<alkisg>
Can you create a virtual client in virtualbox, and use bridged networking there too, and try to netboot it?
05:50
Btw, your rpi3 does NOT have an sd card, correct?
05:51
<mathesis>
no has a sdcard
05:52
<alkisg>
Remove the sdcard and try to boot it
05:55
<mathesis>
ok wait
05:50
<alkisg>
Can you create a virtual client in virtualbox, and use bridged networking there too, and try to netboot it?
05:50
Btw, your rpi3 does NOT have an sd card, correct?
05:51
<mathesis>
no has a sdcard
05:52
<alkisg>
Remove the sdcard and try to boot it
05:55
<mathesis>
ok wait
05:58
this is client virtualbox
05:59
<alkisg>
OK this communicates properly, asks for DHCP etc
05:59
Try the rpi3 without an sdcard in it
05:59
<mathesis>
raspberry no boot
06:00
<alkisg>
Try to boot rpi3 with raspbian in an sdcard, so that we see that its networking is OK
05:58
<mathesis>
this is client virtualbox
05:59
<alkisg>
OK this communicates properly, asks for DHCP etc
05:59
Try the rpi3 without an sdcard in it
05:59
<mathesis>
raspberry no boot
06:00
<alkisg>
Try to boot rpi3 with raspbian in an sdcard, so that we see that its networking is OK
06:00
<mathesis>
sudo apt-get --yes install x11vnc; x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr
06:00
<alkisg>
At this point, the rpi3 doesn't ask for DHCP, it doesn't try to netboot
06:00
<mathesis>
ok
06:00
<alkisg>
Or it's in a different network..
06:00
<mathesis>
i am going try with sdcard within raspbian
06:00
<alkisg>
Do you have it hooked up into the router, or into a switch?
06:01
<mathesis>
is same network
06:01
<alkisg>
OK boot it with raspbian so that we see
06:00
<mathesis>
sudo apt-get --yes install x11vnc; x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr
06:00
<alkisg>
At this point, the rpi3 doesn't ask for DHCP, it doesn't try to netboot
06:00
<mathesis>
ok
06:00
<alkisg>
Or it's in a different network..
06:00
<mathesis>
i am going try with sdcard within raspbian
06:00
<alkisg>
Do you have it hooked up into the router, or into a switch?
06:01
<mathesis>
is same network
06:01
<alkisg>
OK boot it with raspbian so that we see
06:07
<mathesis>
https://postimg.cc/mtMPsh72
06:07
boot ok with raspbian
06:08
<alkisg>
mathesis: do vnc from raspbian
06:08
!x11vnc
06:08
<ltspbot>
x11vnc: One way to share a graphical screen with a remote person is: [local pc] port forward 5500, run: vncviewer -listen [remote pc] sudo apt-get install x11vnc; x11vnc -noshm -connect <technician-ip>
06:08
<ltspbot`>
x11vnc: One way to share a graphical screen with a remote person is: [local pc] port forward 5500, run: vncviewer -listen [remote pc] sudo apt-get install x11vnc; x11vnc -noshm -connect <technician-ip>
06:08
<alkisg>
!vnc-dide
06:08
<ltspbot>
vnc-dide: To share your screen with me, run this: sudo apt-get --yes install x11vnc; x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr - this is a reverse connection, it doesn't need port forwarding etc.
06:08
<ltspbot`>
vnc-dide: To share your screen with me, run this: sudo apt-get --yes install x11vnc; x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr - this is a reverse connection, it doesn't need port forwarding etc.
06:09
<mathesis>
ok
06:07
https://postimg.cc/mtMPsh72
06:07
boot ok with raspbian
06:08
<alkisg>
mathesis: do vnc from raspbian
06:08
!x11vnc
06:08
<ltspbot`>
x11vnc: One way to share a graphical screen with a remote person is: [local pc] port forward 5500, run: vncviewer -listen [remote pc] sudo apt-get install x11vnc; x11vnc -noshm -connect <technician-ip>
06:08
<ltspbot>
x11vnc: One way to share a graphical screen with a remote person is: [local pc] port forward 5500, run: vncviewer -listen [remote pc] sudo apt-get install x11vnc; x11vnc -noshm -connect <technician-ip>
06:08
<alkisg>
!vnc-dide
06:08
<ltspbot`>
vnc-dide: To share your screen with me, run this: sudo apt-get --yes install x11vnc; x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr - this is a reverse connection, it doesn't need port forwarding etc.
06:08
<ltspbot>
vnc-dide: To share your screen with me, run this: sudo apt-get --yes install x11vnc; x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr - this is a reverse connection, it doesn't need port forwarding etc.
06:09
<mathesis>
ok
06:13
alkisg: ready
06:13
<alkisg>
ok
06:13
<mathesis>
alkisg: ready
06:13
<alkisg>
ok
06:17
mathesis: do you have them connected to your router?
06:17
i.e. directly?
06:18
<mathesis>
raspberry yes
06:18
<alkisg>
I think the problem is that your router blocks proxydhcp requests, and you need a switch
06:18
Do you have a switch?
06:18
<mathesis>
mac os catalina is connected for wifi
06:18
<alkisg>
OK then maybe that's why it's not working
06:18
Your router doesn't bridge the dhcp requests to wifi
06:18
<mathesis>
my macbook air no has ethernet
06:19
<alkisg>
Wow, silly apple :D
06:19
And are you planning to serve ltsp clients over wifi?
06:19
Even if you manage that, it will be too slow
06:19
<mathesis>
same slow that raspian?
06:17
<alkisg>
mathesis: do you have them connected to your router?
06:17
i.e. directly?
06:18
<mathesis>
raspberry yes
06:18
<alkisg>
I think the problem is that your router blocks proxydhcp requests, and you need a switch
06:18
Do you have a switch?
06:18
<mathesis>
mac os catalina is connected for wifi
06:18
<alkisg>
OK then maybe that's why it's not working
06:18
Your router doesn't bridge the dhcp requests to wifi
06:18
<mathesis>
my macbook air no has ethernet
06:19
<alkisg>
Wow, silly apple :D
06:19
And are you planning to serve ltsp clients over wifi?
06:19
Even if you manage that, it will be too slow
06:19
<mathesis>
same slow that raspian?
06:21
<alkisg>
Hmm no your wifi is fast, 100 mbps due to the rpi3 ethernet
06:21
Is your router configurable, can you configure the boot filename in your router?
06:22
mathesis: is this only about one client?
06:22
You will only have one raspberry?
06:22
<mathesis>
yes only one
06:23
<alkisg>
It's 22 MB/sed
06:23
<mathesis>
is for homework of my daugther
06:23
<alkisg>
Your wifi is 10 MB/sec
06:23
So it will be about the same speed (because ltsp disk is compressed)
06:23
It's not worth the trouble
06:21
Hmm no your wifi is fast, 100 mbps due to the rpi3 ethernet
06:21
Is your router configurable, can you configure the boot filename in your router?
06:22
mathesis: is this only about one client?
06:22
You will only have one raspberry?
06:22
<mathesis>
yes only one
06:23
<alkisg>
It's 22 MB/sed
06:23
<mathesis>
is for homework of my daugther
06:23
<alkisg>
Your wifi is 10 MB/sec
06:23
So it will be about the same speed (because ltsp disk is compressed)
06:23
It's not worth the trouble
06:26
<mathesis>
alkisg: this my dhcp server router
06:26
can you see chromium?
06:26
<alkisg>
Yes
06:26
Your router isn't configurable
06:26
<mathesis>
:(
06:26
<alkisg>
And you can't do proxydhcp because of the wifi
06:27
You could put /boot in your sdcard, and the rest to be over nfs,
06:27
but I'm not sure it's worth the trouble as your wifi is slower than your sdcard
06:27
<mathesis>
I get it
06:29
i need a good router and switch
06:26
alkisg: this my dhcp server router
06:26
can you see chromium?
06:26
<alkisg>
Yes
06:26
Your router isn't configurable
06:26
<mathesis>
:(
06:26
<alkisg>
And you can't do proxydhcp because of the wifi
06:27
You could put /boot in your sdcard, and the rest to be over nfs,
06:27
but I'm not sure it's worth the trouble as your wifi is slower than your sdcard
06:27
<mathesis>
I get it
06:29
i need a good router and switch
06:33
<alkisg>
Or just a usb to ethernet adapter for your mac air
06:33
<mathesis>
ok
06:33
<alkisg>
Or just a usb to ethernet adapter for your mac air
06:33
<mathesis>
ok
06:35
alkisg: this https://articulo.mercadolibre.com.mx/MLM-725058321-adaptador-usb-ethernet-red-lan-ethernet-rj45-a-usb-20-_JM
06:36
<alkisg>
USB2 and $99? Why?!
06:36
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001264746523.html?spm=2114.search0302.3.1.3fed54devAj1TI&s=p&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_0,searchweb201603_0,ppcSwitch_0&algo_pvid=e3da3bf2-bc86-4353-bc91-e2d1e871939b&algo_expid=e3da3bf2-bc86-4353-bc91-e2d1e871939b-0
06:36
USB3, gigabit, and $11
06:36
I don't know macbooks, I hope it has USB3
06:36
<mathesis>
ok
06:39
alkisg: thing client in virtualbox is ok
06:39
https://postimg.cc/JDgf7rjR
06:35
alkisg: this https://articulo.mercadolibre.com.mx/MLM-725058321-adaptador-usb-ethernet-red-lan-ethernet-rj45-a-usb-20-_JM
06:36
<alkisg>
USB2 and $99? Why?!
06:36
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001264746523.html?spm=2114.search0302.3.1.3fed54devAj1TI&s=p&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_0,searchweb201603_0,ppcSwitch_0&algo_pvid=e3da3bf2-bc86-4353-bc91-e2d1e871939b&algo_expid=e3da3bf2-bc86-4353-bc91-e2d1e871939b-0
06:36
USB3, gigabit, and $11
06:36
I don't know macbooks, I hope it has USB3
06:36
<mathesis>
ok
06:39
alkisg: thing client in virtualbox is ok
06:39
https://postimg.cc/JDgf7rjR
06:40
<alkisg>
Yes but you need an 64bit client (ubuntu 64bit), not 32bit
06:41
This is because the virtualbox client is using wifi
06:41
<mathesis>
yes, is ready
06:43
is a test only
06:43
but i need a computer with 8gb RAM 240 SSD
06:40
<alkisg>
Yes but you need an 64bit client (ubuntu 64bit), not 32bit
06:41
This is because the virtualbox client is using wifi
06:41
<mathesis>
yes, is ready
06:43
is a test only
06:43
but i need a computer with 8gb RAM 240 SSD
06:53
alkisg: thank you
06:53
<alkisg>
You're welcome
06:53
<mathesis>
alkisg: thank you
06:53
<alkisg>
You're welcome
07:03
<mathesis>
see you later
07:03
i am going to rest
07:04
<alkisg>
Good bye
07:05
<mathesis>
good bye
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07:03
<mathesis>
see you later
07:03
i am going to rest
07:04
<alkisg>
Good bye
07:05
<mathesis>
good bye
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