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Channel log from 19 January 2011   (all times are UTC)

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<gnunux>
hi
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<Zsolt>
hi all
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<Appiah>
\o
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<Zsolt>
i have a question. i want to use ltsp fat client (Ubuntu). how many is the recomended RAM size of the client?
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<muppis>
Zsolt, same as for locally installed.
05:08
<Zsolt>
muppis: ok, i understand. thanks.
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<csaba_>
hi
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can someone give me a help?
06:41
i am running ltsp fat mode
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anyways I have set up icewm to be default and have the .icewm config in a dir that I would like to symlink to users dir
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so all users have the same setup
06:42
it works fine somewhere else
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but here it only works if I copy the dir
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any clue why is this,
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the symlinked dir is readable and the cintents of it also
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<alkisg>
Try specifying SSH_FOLLOW_SYMLINKS=True in lts.conf
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<csaba_>
aha
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i thought it must be something like this
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where is that lts.conf?
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in /opt/ltsp ?
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do I need to issue a command after i set this
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like update image or something?
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<Appiah>
just reboot the client
06:48
no its in /var/lib/tftpboot/ somewhere
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/var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf
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<csaba_>
in the global section
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success!
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<csaba_>
thanks
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<sameerthahir>
dear all, I have setup Ltsp using debian lenny and am really enjoying it :) , but I want to replace the default LDM with GDM can anyone suggest a way for it, thanks
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<Appiah>
ouch
07:23
may I ask why?
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<sameerthahir>
Appiah, It just a matter of preference
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<Appiah>
what is it that you miss in LDM that GDM has?
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(Sorry I dont have an I answer to your question , just curious about your problem)
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<sameerthahir>
well its not a problem, I just wanted to know if it was possible, because when someone asks I can do it. :)
07:27
people ask all the questions, just because its a thin client haha
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<Appiah>
:D
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<sameerthahir>
so I should have answers, apart from that I think LDM can be customized the same way like GDM
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so it doesnt make much difference
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<Appiah>
It can , but if it can replaced I have no idea
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think LDM handles alot
07:29
<sameerthahir>
right, I have read about it
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<sameerthahir>
probably I think its better to make LDM look like GDM, so people dont ask any question
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:D
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<Appiah>
hehe
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<Appiah>
put a big text there that says GDM Version : 2.30-LDM
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<sameerthahir>
haha
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<alkisg>
LDM handles the ssh-based authentication. GDM can't do that, so it can't replace LDM for thin client installations.
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<sameerthahir>
alkisg, oh thanks for that answer, what about KDM
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:D
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<alkisg>
Nope, no DM can do ssh authentication
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It's specific to LTSP
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In the future an LTSP dev is developing a "libpamssh-something" pam module. If that's implemented, then other DMs could be used as well.
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<Appiah>
is that underway or a dream?
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<alkisg>
An initial implementation was written 6 months ago
07:34
And that's still the current status. :)
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<sameerthahir>
I see
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<Appiah>
cool , anywhere you can find it?
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<alkisg>
https://code.launchpad.net/~sbalneav/ltsp/libpam-sshauth
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<sameerthahir>
alkisg, but can I use xdmcp to communicate , avoiding the ssh and use other DMs
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<alkisg>
sameerthahir: sure. That's not LTSP though.
07:36
<sameerthahir>
alkisg, right
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<alkisg>
It's XDMCP. No sound, no localapps, no localdev etc
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<sameerthahir>
yeah
07:37
alkisg, thanks a lot for that information, I guess I will try to hang around in the channel more often.
07:37
:)
07:38* alkisg would love it if all those sound/local* modules were implemented as login hooks or something, so that they'd work from XDMCP too... :-/
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<sameerthahir>
ah
07:40
one more question although I am able to login into the graphical mode, I am unable to login in the console (Ctrl-Alt-F1-F6). It does not accept password and returns to login prompt
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<alkisg>
In the graphical screen you're logging in on the server via ssh
07:40
In the console you're trying to logon locally on the client. There are no user accounts there.
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You can unlock the root account in the chroot if you want, or use SCREEN_08=shell to get a shell there without logging in
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!SCREEN_08
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<ltspbot>
alkisg: "SCREEN_08" :: To get a root shell on a Debian thin client, put SCREEN_07=ldm, SCREEN_08=shell and SCREEN_DEFAULT=07 to lts.conf.
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<sameerthahir>
right, thanks a lot
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<Appiah>
"Debian thin client"
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<alkisg>
!SCREEN_02
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<ltspbot>
alkisg: "SCREEN_02" :: to get a root shell on an Ubuntu thin client: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ClientTroubleshooting#Using%20a%20shell%20SCREEN
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<alkisg>
:)
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<Appiah>
:D
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what assings these different screens anyways
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<alkisg>
Ubuntu "deletes" tty[2-6] so they're available for reuse
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Debian uses NFS and it was difficult to delete those gettys
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So vagrantc proposes SCREEN_08 instead of SCREEN_02...
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<Appiah>
I remeber the first time I tried to use SCREEN .. thougt I could use anything for various things
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<alkisg>
Nah, the available options are in /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ltsp/screen.d/
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<Appiah>
yupp found that later
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and in the mailinglist people started sharing screen scripts
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like the one for gparted
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<alkisg>
I posted that on the ML? I thought I put it on the wiki only...
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:D
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<Appiah>
oh
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maybe I'm confusing things
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wiki/ml/whatever :D
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<sameerthahir>
thanks a lot for help, will return later, bye for now :)
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<mgariepy>
morning everyone
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<robehend1>
morning
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<jammcq>
hey hey
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<mistik1>
hola
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<hahlo>
hello, where is fatclients swap?
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<hahlo>
is it possible to setup on client hard disk?
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<naptastic>
Hi, I'm trying to do a diskless setup; not exactly LTSP, but I figure this is a good place to ask, right?
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I have DHCP and TFTP correctly working and I think NFS is configured correctly
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my client gets its kernel and initrd and starts trying to boot, then stops after getting DHCP information. Here is a screenshot: http://www.naptastic.com/david/bootfail.jpg
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<naptastic>
I'm just gonna lurk here for a while... I might take a nap...
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<uday>
I have a LTSP setup in lenny, my problem is screensaver. for every new student I'm adding new user by adduser command. If some terminal remains idle screensaver comes up and it slows entire system. How can i turn it off. Also how can i customize the environment for new users?
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<mgariepy>
uday, the problem is that the screen saver is animated and comsume a LOT of bandwith, what i do is to lock it to blank-only
13:52
with that command : gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory --set --type string /apps/gnome-screensaver/mode blank-only
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as root on the server.
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the gconftool-2 command will force the screen saver to blank-only for every user
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<uday>
I'm using lxde
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<mgariepy>
ho,
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<uday>
or may be i can switch to xfce4
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<mgariepy>
sorry then, i cannot help you with LXDE, i haven't used it.
13:55
if you set the screen saver to blank only on lxde does it take all the ressources ?
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<Gadi>
!disable_compiz
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<ltspbot>
Gadi: "disable_compiz" :: To disable compiz, try: sudo gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory --type string --set /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager metacity
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<alkisg>
!compiz
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<ltspbot>
alkisg: "compiz" :: the default window manager in gnome is gnome-wm, which automatically chooses compiz if it thinks that the card supports it. Compiz is causing login problems to some clients (LP #673072). To disable it, see !disable_compiz. To restore it, see !restore_compiz
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<alkisg>
!disable_compiz
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<ltspbot>
alkisg: "disable_compiz" :: To disable compiz, try: sudo gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory --type string --set /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager metacity
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<rpm_>
I am trying to run firefox as a local app with flash quicktime and wmv support, what packages do I need to install to the image on an ubuntu ltsp server? Thanks in advance for any help.
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<rpm_>
II am trying to run firefox as a local app with flash quicktime and wmv support, what packages do I need to install to the image on an ubuntu ltsp server? Thanks in advance for any help.
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<rpm_>
hello, is anyone there?
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<beginer>
Respected people, please help..... where do i get the ltsp packages?
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for installation?
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