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Channel log from 17 March 2009   (all times are UTC)

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<daduke>
jammcq: hello. got a minute?
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<wongwates>
howto set sound on ltsp
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<DarKnesS_WolF>
good morning .
04:17
i am using a nfs ltsp fat client setup
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and i am install applications iva chrtoo into the /var/opt/litsp/fati32 and then install there but i am always getting errors and not corrected installed packages. so what is the best way to install packages ? also take care that the nfs root is always ro not rw
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<Appiah>
what errors?
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and how are you installing these packages ?
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<DarKnesS_WolF>
Appiah: i chroot inside the /var/opt/ltsp/fati32/
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then apt-get install blabla
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Appiah: the errors was no proc ,, don't recall
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<Appiah>
try mounting proc first
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<DarKnesS_WolF>
will do
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<StuckAgain>
hey
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<StuckAgain>
anyone know a way to upload the firmware from the ltsp server to a thin client
06:33
i have an hp1018 connected to a thin client and it is refusing it print
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anyone??
06:58
seriously anyone?
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<cyberorg>
StuckAgain, copy it to client chroot and rebuild image
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<StuckAgain>
i did ... it went processing processing processing
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didn't actually do anything after that
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read up somewhere that you can set up a script to cat the firmware file to the /dev/usb/lp0
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but for some reason it worked once and then never worked again
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<cyberorg>
http://en.opensuse.org/LTSP/Printers_with_Firmware
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<StuckAgain>
thank you very much i will look at it right now
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<jammcq>
bom dia meu amigos
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<Appiah>
stgraber: how updated is the OpenVZSetup document on the wiki? you really need to use hardy?
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<lucy>
ogra,Hi, I am compiling the LBE, got the error: Unable to configure glib: inapprorpiate ioctl for device LBE, know how to resolve?
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<ogra>
lucy, i told you before, i have no clue about ltsp 4.x
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<lucy>
sorry
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<ogra>
but since jammcq is already in portuguese mode *g* he might be able to help
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<lucy>
anyone here working with LTSP 4.x?
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<lucy>
know who works in LTSP 4.x?
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<lucy>
jammcq, bom dia
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<jammcq>
hmm, I haven't touched LTSP-4.2 in quite a long time
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ogra: good afternoon to you
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<ogra>
hey
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<lucy>
Jim, Fala português?
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<jammcq>
Um poco de portuguese
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<jammcq>
but I definately need to study portuguese more for my visit in June
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<lucy>
sei, aproveita e treina comigo
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<lucy>
Jim, pode me ajudar estou compilando o lbe, ele dava erro dizendo que precisava de gcc entre 3.2 e 3.4, instalei 3.2, e estava compilando com a opcção --gcc passou a dar o erro:
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build_all Unable to build binutils,
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troquei o atalho "gcc" do padrão 4.1 para o que instalei o 3.2,
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e agora tenho o erro: Unable to configureglib: inappropriate ioctl for device
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<Lns>
Gadi: ping?
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Oh, nevermind maybe. =)
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RTSP seems sorta flaky on a TC. Maybe it's the cam I'm viewing though. http://www2.ucsc.edu/scpbrg/falconcameraSJ.htm
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<maxi_>
hello, does anyone know how to get the vnc X module running on ltsp5 (edubuntu) ?
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<Lns>
maxi_: module? Have you looked at iTalc?
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<maxi_>
no... does it use vnc?
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we need vnc because we want the teachers to be able to use vnc from windows
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<Lns>
maxi yes. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/iTalc
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maxi_: hrm. maybe not then, dont' have much exp. with italc and plain windows vnc client.
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or italc at all for that matter.. i just like to point people in the right direction ;)
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<maxi_>
ok :-)
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i tried vnc4server's libvnc.so but it seems broken, i also tried x0vncserver but it is very very slow
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<Lns>
maxi_: you're trying to control the TCs right? not the server?
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<maxi_>
yes i do
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<Lns>
yeah..i mean, i don't know why just installing vnc in the chroot wouldn't work. there used to be thin-client-manager but that's pretty outdated
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<maxi_>
i also think it should work, but there is a bug that prevents me from using it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vnc4/+bug/260815
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<johnny>
thin client manager will not work anymore.. ogra was gonna rip the vnc part out
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and just leave the basic monitoring/shutdown/messaging capabilities
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<ogra>
has ripped :)
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about 8months ago
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<johnny>
oh.. has ripped :)
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<ogra>
before intrepid released
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<johnny>
and it went into intrepid that way?
12:28* johnny hasn't looked in awhile
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<ogra>
yep
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<maxi_>
and is there any recommended way to get vnc working on the clients?
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vnc doesn't depend on the thinclient manager, it is a server program, isn't it?
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<ogra>
italc
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<maxi_>
can i use windows vnc clients with italc?
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<ogra>
no, you can use italc windows client with italc
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it uses vnc internally but doesnt expose a port for normal vnc
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<maxi_>
so italc does not build on vnc, but has its own protocol?
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<ogra>
no
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<maxi_>
ah
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ok
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can i get it to expose a port?
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<ogra>
it exposes a ssl protected port italc clients can connect to
12:31* ogra points to italc.sourceforge.net
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<maxi_>
ok i'll look at it
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does it implement its own vnc server or does it use some other software?
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<Lumiere>
/home/jstraw/compile/cando/trunk/eggs/zope.configuration-3.4.0-py2.4.egg/zope/configuration/fields.py:417: UserWarning: You did not specify an i18n translation domain for the 'text' field in /home/jstraw/compile/cando/trunk/eggs/schooltool.gradebook-0.3.6dev_r59-py2.4.egg/schooltool/gradebook/configure.zcml
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wrong room
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err sorry
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<Lns>
wow, the ltsp.org site has a broken link on it's own homepage (click the big LTSP.org image at the top)
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<tessier_>
Hello all!
19:53
So I'll ask again: Anyone using FreeNX on a regular basis?
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I've got a Term1520 from diskless workstations and I'm thinking about putting a CF card in it and booting it straight into X running FreeNX to connect to my remote server.
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Over DSL/cablemodem I'm hoping the performance is good enough for email, web browsing, coding, etc.
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<SDuensin>
Hey tessier
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Dunno about the Term1520, but I've run FreeNX over the internet on an EVDO modem. Works great!
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<tessier>
SDuensin: Cool. Could you actually code, email, browse the web, just as if it were a local machine?
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I might try DSL or Debian netinstall and put freenx on it.
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<SDuensin>
tessier - pretty close
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<tessier>
So hopefully over DSL/cablemodem to a well connected datacenter it will work.
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<SDuensin>
It should be fine. I was really impressed with it.
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I'm going to be integrating it with my LTSP install here somehow. Not got it all worked out yet.
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<loather-work>
yeah, the only problem with NX is that it's based on a relatively old version of X11, and newer applications which are compiled against newer X11 headers have more and more trouble working with NX.
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<SDuensin>
:-(
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So when is someone going to liberate it and create a completely FLOSS implementation?
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<loather-work>
nomachine, even after repeated customer feedback, has little plan to update NX to something reasonably current.
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<SDuensin>
Why should they? It does what they want.
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Is there anything else that compares to it?
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<loather-work>
not really. but as their market share decreases because their product no longer works, people will stop using it
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personally, i absolutely loathe being stuck on old software because package X isn't compatible.
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<vagrantc>
seems like whatever conceptual ideas NX has implemented should be more directly integrated into X.org
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<loather-work>
i wholeheartedly agree
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however, that's nomachine's bread and butter
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<SDuensin>
Still seems to me that you could optimize something simpler like VNC instead of going through all that NX stuff. Using a tile cache and such.
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<vagrantc>
i don't expect nomachine to do it, i am thinking an implementation without any of nomachine's code.
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but doing the sorts of things they're doing
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<SDuensin>
Go for it. Can you get it done by Friday? :-)
22:22* SDuensin needs to read about X. He knows nothing of the protocol.
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<vagrantc>
heh
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<SDuensin>
Seems to me, again knowing nothing of X, that you could cache window contents and extents. Then when you drag or scroll or such, you could pull most of the data from the cache.
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Anybody ever try this? http://www.jcraft.com/jdxpc/index.html
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