Does anyone know where the actual call is that generates the client side pulseaudio --system <long list of parameters> comes from?
vagrantc: Do you know where the actual pulseaudio system call is to start the client side server?
i don't use ubuntu
bennabiy: but it might call the start_sound function from <chroot>/usr/share/ltsp/ltsp-init-common
bennabiy: it uses a different init system from debian... no idea if it calls the /etc/init.d/ltsp-client* init scripts.
I dug through the sound functions there, but did not see any reference to the system call, although I can look again. I am sure it is somewhat similar to the debian call
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looks like it does call start_sound from the upstart location
i think in /etc/init
so ltsp-init-common would be the place where the arguments are added to the call?
where start_sound is?
the /etc/init/ltsp-client-core.conf upstart hook calls the start_sound function
ok. I will check that next
which comes from ltsp-init-common
it should really be moved to udev...
that is what I thought
I dug all through udev for it
since there are usb sound devices
but that's not yet implemented
bah, what do those developers think they are doing anyways? ;)
I really appreciate you help vagrantc.
i needed to add
"> -L module-suspend-on-idle \"
bennabiy: there was a thread on firstname.lastname@example.org that fixed sound for me on debian wheezy
Subject: Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Debian 7 LTSP Pulseaudio possible fixes
hrm... when was that?
is it on gmane?
late june, my reply was late july
I just posted to ltsp-discuss
I found the post, on ltsp-discuss
sure. that's just a link to the code committed
I see that. who is handling the ubuntu or mint dev?
Let me see if it works. I have Ford_Prefect waiting on some logs from me in the morning about the issue in #pulseaudio
I want to crash it in logs first, before I fix it... although I am sure I can break it and log it if I need
no mint developers, as far as i know... there's not one line of code in upstream ltsp
handful of people in here who work on ubuntu
bennabiy: good luck
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I got it to work on a broken system!
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how does this work with rdp clients
I dont need all the thin netbooting stuff
but i do need something that will work with the pile or cheap RDP clients i have
What exactly are your RDP clients?
cheap little chinese things about the size of a cigarette pack
Work great with the virtualbox rdp stuff
hmm, not sure what to tell ya
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so this ltsp stuff is more about the etherboot part, or what?
ltsp: LTSP is the Linux Terminal Server Project, the open source thin client solution. You can find it at http://www.ltsp.org
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Question to the devs here: The Xsession that get's started from a chroot when a thin client boots, where are the config files for it? Are they the ones in the chroot or the ones in /etc/X11 on the server?
TheUser: Maybe you should look into X2Go. There you can connect to a Linux server using a number of clients and as far as I know, RDP is one of them
On the other hand, can you trash the RDP on this clients? Or ignore it? If you can pxe boot, then it will probably work fine with LTSP
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ubuntu 12.04 ltsp-build-client: E: Unable to locate package language-support-de error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally
what's up here?
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ahh, i still have that in the configuration file...
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``error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally``, but there is no previous error
ah, images directory missing, that could be it
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My audio works!
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I'm having trouble keyboard and video stations, how do I fix? Even doing configuraçõe keyboard "ABNT2" and videio "1024X768" stations do not get these settings
could you help me?
Does anyone know where I can document the bug and fix, and suggest code change to the ltsp-init-common
hello, help me
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bennabiy: on launchpad I guess
I do not know about 'bugs', but I do know about these similar topics: 'bts', 'bug'
bug: To file a bug report for upstream LTSP, go to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp
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Does anyone happen to know where/how ldm styles the greeter?
I'm trying to figure out where it's calling to load logo.png specifically
is it compiled in?
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other_other_joe: try /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ldm/themes/ubuntu/logo.png
that's where the file is
but I don't want it to pull the logo at all
cw, you were right btw. I've seen no adverse effects from just mounting the entire nfs:/home with all my users
Have a look at your logs
I believe it tells you more verbosely why it failed
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other_other_joe: which log? in syslog, i have no errors, just "creating dsa-hostkey" type messages
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I don't recall honestly
I do remember having some build-client issues though and I believe I found the cause in a log
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other_other_joe: i have no /var/log/ltsp*
trying with --debug
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still errors without any useful error message :/
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is it possible that some old stuff in /usr/share/ltsp or so is causing this?
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any hints on how to debug that damn script are appreciated
the brute force way is to have it write messages to a file in /tmp
||cw: you mean stdout/stderr?
or just echo "x is $x" >> /tmp/debug.txt
why doesn't the damn thing just abort immediately on error :-/
moldy, does /var/lib/tftpboot/ or /srv/tftp exist?
Also, which distro/version is this on?
Hyperbyte: ubuntu 12.04. both exist
the os was updated from 10.04, which didn't run smoothly
(the update, that is)
I'm not sure I'd try that as an in-place update
you mean i should reinstall?
hehe, it's supposed to be a "supported" update
copy off the /home and rebuild the OS. or at least rebuild the ltsp config from scrtach
there's a lot of changes to ltsp between those, and it's note widely used enough for anyone to claim that it's a stable well supported in-lace upgrade
there's like'y 5-10 people world wide that do it.
other_other_joe: You could just do a transparent png to not have the logo load.
||cw: ltsp config = /etc/ltsp/* ?
i removed everything in /opt/ltsp/, /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp and /srv/tftp/ltsp
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sounds legit. I haven't tried that upgrade yet. dreading it, actually.
after the distribution upgrade, i was missing some essential packages, but that was easy to figure out
a grep for "error" in the script's output finds nothing of interest
tried to just run ltsp-update-image and boot a client. seems to work at first, but my clients need a different kernel (no pae support)
Hey vagrantc, I fixed my audio
it was the same thing you had to do
I issued a bug report, if someone who can commit the change can fix it
stgraber: looking at 020-kernel-selection, it seems that ltsp prefers pae over non-pae (5.3.7-0ubuntu2) -- is that a bug?
I love when I mistype
bennabiy: submitted a bug report where?
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bennabiy: in the future, submit patches using "diff -u old-file new-file"
but since it's already committed upstream, that shouldn't be an issue.
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cvs? heh :)
vagrantc: I will do that
I mean, upstream, downstream, whitewater etc ;)
hopefully with ltsp6 we can just run the daemon as the user or something ... actually, might not be too terribly difficult too get ldm to do that now.
using localapps or something ... dunno
hm, it seems that the client environment does basically work
maybe something is just returning non-zero here and confusing ltsp-build-client?
I am not sure if the proper devs are in here for this, but this is an observation I had about the sound issue.
Once audacity clobbered the sound, even without adding the " -L module-suspend-on-idle \ " if on the client I manually killed the pulse session, and then made a simple bash script to reference ltsp-init-common and call start_sound it worked fine and audacity and vlc and whatever could all play together find
It made me think that whenever the call is being made to start_sound during the login, the permissions are getting clobbered or something after it
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Anyone that has experience with Xsession errors when logging into LTSP? vagrantc? stgraber? sbalneav? sunweaver? Anyone else? Dunno if any of you have time to read the detail, but I have posted the details in http://firstname.lastname@example.org/msg41373.html, but I'm totally stuck. All I can do is delete the user's profile and start again, but then I don't know what causes this. Don't want to really do
that since this is the second user this happens with.
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Hi. I'm trying to run ltsp-build-client on Centos 6.4 from behind an authenticated proxy but it can't connect to mirrorlist.centos.org.
Can someone please tell me how to tell ltsp-build-client to use my proxy?
Random_: I don't know if there's a standard way to do that. you might have to ask whoever ported it to centos/yum
at my work we got tired of that crap and whitelisted the various OS update sites for things we want to update automatically
Random_: when your in the chroot can you try executing the same commands you used on the server to connect it to the proxy?
for deb based stuff, even went as far as install apt-cacher-ng so systems don't need the web proxy at all
dead_inside: ltsp-build-client is what creates the chroot
can your server connect online? like the ltsp stuff aside
Is there somewhere I can put an export http_proxy command in the chroot envornment?
I have http_proxy set in my environment, but it doesn't get used when the chroot happens.
there appears to be a --http-proxy option
Random_: are you using sudo? it may clean out "hazardous" environment variables
Not in the version I am running.
Don't shoot me, but I'm logged in as root.
--http-proxy only exists for Debian variants
it shouldn't be hard to implement...
but if it's not respecting your already set environment variable...
Is there a config file that sets the environment for the chroot?
there may be bugs in software ltsp-build-client is calling that cause the problem
Random_: you could create /etc/ltsp/ltsp-build-client.conf and add: "export http_proxy=..."
that *should* work across all distros
but if it's not respecting the settings in your environment, then it's probably some tool that ltsp-build-client is calling that's not respecting it.
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Just tried that. No change.
I might just have to bypass the proxy and allow the server direct access to the Internet.
Success at last. I allowed the server through the firewall and now ltsp-build-client has completed. Thanks for all your help.
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vagrantc: quick question alittle offtopic of ltsp, but debian related