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| 11:17 | <groeg> Hey!
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| 11:19 | Why is Unity-desktop not working with ltsp on Ubuntu 14.04?
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| 11:20 | <alkisg> 3d desktop environments don't really work on thin clients
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| 11:20 | You either need 2d environment like gnome-flashback, or ltsp fat clients
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| 11:24 | <groeg> okay thanks!
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| 16:54 | <Cyrius_> Hello
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| 16:55 | would love some assistance.
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| 16:58 | <elias_a> !ask
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| 16:58 | <ltsp`> ask: Don't ask to ask a question, simply ask it, and if someone knows the answer, they'll respond. Please hang around for at least a full hour after asking a question, as not everybody constantly monitors the channel.
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| 16:59 | <elias_a> Cyrius_: You are most warmly welcome! Just ask your question. :)
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| 16:59 | <Cyrius_> lol ok
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| 16:59 | So I have just set up a ltsp server, but my client isn't finding it (No boot filename received)
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| 17:00 | Is it possible the system is hitting the wrong dhcp server?
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| 17:00 | this is my first run with ltsp and I am proving it out as an option
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| 17:01 | <mmetzger> If you are sharing a network where there's another dhcp server, absolutely it could be getting the other info. Can you tell which IP it's getting?
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| 17:01 | Note that doing this may also annoy the network admin as other clients could be getting the answer from your LTSP DHCP and not get configured correctly.
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| 17:02 | <Cyrius_> I can't tell on the boot agent no
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| 17:02 | The systems should already have their dhcp leases for the day (mostly)
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| 17:04 | <mmetzger> What kind of client are you using? The PXE boot usually shows at least some IP info that it's received.
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| 17:04 | <elias_a> Ummm... AFAIK only one dhcp server can exist in same subnet if you want it to work.
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| 17:04 | Cyrius_: Does your server have 1 or 2 NIC setup?
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| 17:05 | <Cyrius_> this one is single NIC
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| 17:06 | is it possible to set the DHCP server to point to the other one for PXE boot?
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| 17:06 | <elias_a> Cyrius_: And does the server get it's IP via DHCP?
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| 17:06 | <Cyrius_> No, it doesn't
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| 17:06 | I have a static IP set
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| 17:06 | <elias_a> Ok. And you're not controlling the DHCP?
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| 17:07 | <Cyrius_> as in the actually DHCP? I just ran the ltsp setup on this one
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| 17:07 | I have access to our domain's dhcp server if that is what you mean
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| 17:07 | <elias_a> No I mean the DHCP you said exist in the network.
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| 17:08 | Yep, that's what I meant.
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| 17:08 | The easiest way to get it to work is 2 nic setup.
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| 17:09 | in that way you also avoid possible problems with other users ,-)
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| 17:09 | <Cyrius_> Its in a vm so that's easy enough
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| 17:10 | K, so I am imagining what you are going to say is have one of the NICs on a separate subnet?
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| 17:10 | <mmetzger> yup
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| 17:10 | <Cyrius_> that won't stop the clients from finding both DHCP though will it?
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| 17:11 | <elias_a> Yes, because that's simple.
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| 17:11 | <mmetzger> If you share the same physcial network, they can find each other.
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| 17:11 | <elias_a> Cyrius_: Check this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=916107
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| 17:11 | <mmetzger> It needs to be either separate physical network, or at least VLAN'd
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| 17:11 | <elias_a> mmetzger: Does it, relly?
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| 17:11 | +a
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| 17:12 | <Cyrius_> I am going to try that link
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| 17:12 | that sounds like exactly how to fix that scenario
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| 17:13 | <elias_a> I don't see any reason for that if you are able to tell the client(s) the IP of the LTSP server.
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| 17:13 | Cyrius_: Please let us know about your progress.
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| 17:13 | <mmetzger> elias_a: Depends on what you're asking overall. Taking LTSP out of the equation entirely, multiple DHCP servers do not work well in the same "network", meaning the same boardcast domain
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| 17:13 | <Cyrius_> I will :) thanks for the assist
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| 17:14 | I don't actually need the dhcp if the existing windows server forwards the boot requests
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| 17:14 | I just know dhcp is required for a pxe boot
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| 17:14 | <raphr> talking about dhcp relay ?
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| 17:15 | <mmetzger> raphr: More like ProxyDHCP (or configuring existing DHCP w/ PXE boot info)
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| 17:17 | <Cyrius_> Yeah, I am going to add the pxe boot info
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| 17:17 | this is the first pxe boot item on my network so it won't interfere with anything else
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| 17:17 | <elias_a> mmetzger: I meant that LTSP can be tweaked to work without DHCP server in the same server, as already mentioned.
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| 17:18 | Those unlucky people whi are forced to use Windows AD use that as the DHCP server.
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| 17:19 | <raphr> I use dhcp, but not crosoft one :)
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| 17:20 | and proxydhcp could do the trick. WS service install on proxydhcp if i remember
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| 17:20 | WDS
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| 17:21 | <mmetzger> elias_a: Yeah - absolutely. I also prefer the 2-NIC setup you mentioned - makes things so much cleaner.
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| 17:22 | <Cyrius_> so with the dual nic option and the thing pushing clients that way
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| 17:23 | would I use the address of the LTSP as the gateway?
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| 17:24 | <vagrantc> for reference:
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| 17:24 | !proxydhcp
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| 17:24 | <ltsp`> proxydhcp: A proxy DHCP server is defined by the PXE specification as a server which sends auxiliary boot information to clients, like the boot filename, tftp server or rootpath, but leaves the task of IP leasing to the normal DHCP server. More info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ProxyDHCP
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| 17:24 | <vagrantc> Cyrius_: if they're thin clients, no need for a gateway
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| 17:25 | <elias_a> mmetzger: I have a friend who is running LTSP in the network of a middle size town.
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| 17:25 | <vagrantc> if they're fat clients, you'd need to set up routing or NAT or something to forward the traffic from the fat clients to the internet/intranet.
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| 17:25 | elias_a: that's interesting... are they on the LTSP world map?
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| 17:25 | !amp
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| 17:25 | <ltsp`> I do not know about 'amp', but I do know about these similar topics: 'lts.conf-example'
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| 17:25 | <vagrantc> !map
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| 17:25 | <ltsp`> I do not know about 'map', but I do know about these similar topics: 'worldmap'
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| 17:25 | <vagrantc> !worldmap
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| 17:25 | <ltsp`> worldmap: If you're using LTSP, please let the world know and share your story at http://www.ltsp.org/stories/ Your can add a nice pin to our world map at your location, plus your setup will count towards the global LTSP usage statistics.
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| 17:26 | <elias_a> mmetzger: when someone calls helpdesk asking "what is my Ubuntu password" they know that HDD has failed. :)
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| 17:27 | <mmetzger> elias_a: Heh - that took me a second - funny...
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| 17:27 | <elias_a> The office rats may continue working with Ubuntu. no Windowss specific binaries of course...
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| 17:27 | vagrantc: Moment - I'll check that out.
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| 17:29 | vagrantc: No, it is not in the world map.
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| 17:29 | Have to do something about that after the vacation season.
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| 17:30 | vmlintu: you could also add your customers :)
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| 17:30 | vmlintu: Or at least tell how much userbase you have.
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| 17:30 | <Cyrius_> If I can get this going
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| 17:31 | I plan on replacing like 120 systems
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| 17:31 | these are 'shop floor' computers and I don't want to spend 40-60 grand on new computers
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| 17:31 | especially ones that get used to log production and thats it!
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| 17:33 | <elias_a> Cyrius_: pls define "shop floor" - I do not understand.
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| 17:33 | <elias_a> Public computers for info purposes?
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| 17:33 | <Cyrius_> No, in a manufacturing environment
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| 17:34 | semi public I suppose
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| 17:35 | <elias_a> Ok. So a certain set of sw to use mostly with browsers?
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| 17:50 | <Cyrius_> actually, the only requirement is to access our ERP system
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| 17:50 | which is accessed through a browser
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| 17:50 | sorry, was modifying my vm haha
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| 17:54 | <elias_a> :)
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| 19:31 | <Cyrius> Hello everyone
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| 19:32 | * vagrantc waves | |
| 19:34 | * mmetzger is developing a morbid fascination with thin / fat client hardware... | |
| 19:46 | <Cyrius> So I got the boot to work
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| 19:46 | the addition of some scope options on my DHCP server did it
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| 19:46 | now there is some further stuff I have to figure out :-P
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| 19:50 | Are you dudes linux gurus in general?
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| 19:54 | <elias_a> Nope. At least I'm not. Next question, please! :)
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| 19:55 | Cyrius: Good work!
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| 19:56 | <Cyrius> I need to be able to join windows domain but all the resources I find link to a no longer available package haha
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| 19:56 | Do you have insight?
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| 19:56 | Next question, most immediately, would be how do I see the sessions that are connected?
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| 19:57 | <alkisg> give this command in a terminal: w
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| 19:58 | <Cyrius> ummm
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| 23:46 | <roasted> hello friends
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| 23:47 | been forever since I used LTSP, but just wanted to say hi to the amazing devs. <3
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| 23:49 | * vagrantc waves | |
| 23:50 | <roasted> ahh vagrantc. You spent many nights helping me. How are ya?
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