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Channel log from 11 September 2019   (all times are UTC)

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08:58
<eu^6213070dsldyn>
alkisg καλημερα
08:59
alkisg τελικα να βαλω 32 ή 64 bit σε server με παλιο pendium4 prescott με 1.5gb ram; Ολοιδια και τα fat clients...
09:01
<alkisg>
Καλημέρα eu^6213070dsldyn
09:01
Είσαι σε λάθος κανάλι, αυτό είναι το αγγλκό
09:01
Για να μπεις στο ελληνικό, γράψε: /join #ts.sch.gr
09:02
Αλλά πάντως σε p4 βάλε 32bit
09:02
Δεν έχουν αρκετή RAM για 64ρι
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09:32
<eu^6213070dsldyn>
alkisg πως λεγεται το Ελληνικο καναλι;
09:33
<alkisg>
eu^6213070dsldyn: kala irthes prin
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grapse: /join #ts.sch.gr
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13:02
<MWALTERS>
prescott p4... that's a nice electric space heater ;)
13:02
a touch inefficient, though
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<fiesh>
aren't all electric heaters of the same efficieny simply by preservation of energy?
13:29
<MWALTERS>
I'm sure there are differences based on the elements used... and if there's a thermostat, passive heating elements... etc, etc
13:30
In, the US... generally any electric heater will be around 1250watt max as well, since most electrical receptacles are rated for 15amp peaks... despite most branch circuits (installed in the last 25 years) being rated for 20amps
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To use the 20watt, you need a "winky face" receptacle, which most homes don't have installed normally
13:31
eer, 20amp
13:31
the more you know (tm)
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The US electrical standards are super wonky... and I'm fairly sure they're designed to encourage you to electrocute yourself.
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particularly with how our receptacles and plugs are designed
13:35
I'm fairly certain, everyone who grew up in the US has a story from when they were little and either: shoved something metal in a receptacle... or touched an exposed conductor while plugging it in... and not remembering the next few seconds ;)
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<MWALTERS>
Phoneblocks, though... the bane of my existence currently... we still have some POTS blocks for our fax machines... lower voltage DC... just a nice tingle... until the phone rings... then it's like 90v AC... all the blocks seem to be mounted in such a way to encourage you to press your arm against them while working on a switch or server...
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13:41
<fiesh>
I don't see how there could be a variation in efficiency without violation of the law of conservation of energy
13:42
that does not mean I will argue against the American electrical standards being preposterously awful ;)
13:42
<MWALTERS>
You're assuming every manufacturer uses the same quality of conductor or elements
13:42
<fiesh>
one of the best things of being back to Europe is not having to deal with the outlets and the shitty voltage and the awful appliances
13:42
<MWALTERS>
and there wouldn't be ineffeciencies elsewhere in the appliance
13:42
<fiesh>
no, it makes no difference what they use
13:42
<MWALTERS>
effeciency as measured by the heat output vs wh consumed
13:43
effective heat ouput?
13:43
<fiesh>
efficience is the amount of thermal power generated per amount of electrical power put in
13:43
it'll be 1
13:43
there's no other way
13:44
now heat exchangers are an entirely different story and of course have an efficiency above 1
13:44
<MWALTERS>
You're talking about AC/Heat pump... absolutely
13:44
<fiesh>
but I guess we're way off topic
13:44
<MWALTERS>
lol ;)
13:44
<fiesh>
but any electrical heater will have an efficiency of 1
13:44
no matter if it's a radiator or your CPU
13:45
<MWALTERS>
I'm not sure if I totally agree with that, but my understanding of how it all works is layman at best ;)
13:45
I know enough to not electrocute myself... most of the time ;)
13:45
(or start a fire... most of the time)
13:45
not
13:45
...eh, either way that sentence is accurate
13:45
<fiesh>
if you manage to beat it, you have accomplished the biggest physical breakthrough in the history of mankind ;-)
13:47
<MWALTERS>
I still think there are other opportunities for thermal "loss", in areas that don't effectively radiate into the room being heated... or not radiated... convected? Can't remember the right word...
13:48
I mean, I guess eventually it will no matter what
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